"So, J.S. Mill, who was heavily influenced by Coleridge and the romantic
movement, inclusive of his 'deep impressions' with poetry such as Keats and
Wordsworth, obtained a recasting of 'philosophy' away from the classical
dialectics and instead became yet another of the WORTHLESS ROMANTIC
RHETORICIANS..."
When you say anything of this nature, the only thing you do is expose your
own ignorance. To make this affirmation about the ROMANTIC MOVEMENT, which
was probably the most vital and vigorous inspiration in the history of
culture, is (again) a sacrilegious profanity. Think about this. When you
trash the ROMANTICS, you are trashing Schiller, who inspired Beethoven to
compose the 9th Symphony "Ode to Joy" -- one of the most beautiful
compositions in the history of music. You are not only trashing J.S. Mill,
Wordsworth, Coleridge and Keats, but you are also trashing Lord Byron,
Chataeubriand, Rilke, Becquer, Larra and Victor Hugo, Gautier, Goethe,
Chopin, Verdi, Rossini, Falla, Granados, and Turina, Debussy, Ravel, Poe and
Washington Irving, Goya, Delacroix, Schlegel, Tieck, Novalis, Constable and
Turner, just to name a few of those "worthless romantics".
Romanticism was the inspiration for Gaudy. Without the ROMANTIC influence,
you couldn't conceive the IMPRESSIONISTIC movement in painting: Monet,
Manet, Pissarro, Renoir, Cezanne, Van Gogh, Toulouse-Lautrec, and Picasso,
CUBISM, and ALL MODERN MOVEMENTS. To cut the ROMANTIC period from the
history of culture would be like a castration, a cultural mutilation
depriving the arts from one of the most vital, prolific, and rich influences
history has ever known.
By the way, you never explained by what standard you measured these artists
to give them that low grade -- "WORTHLESS" -- and, on the other hand, how
you derived the title of your group of Negroes as "SUCCESSFUL, ARTISTIC, AND
CULTURAL TREASURES [...] RESPECTED INDIVIDUALS, LEADERS OF CIVILIZATION, AND
CONTRIBUTORS TO THE POSITIVE GOOD."
You must be a big masochist, trying to enter a debate with this ridiculous
criteria, because every time you come to the "mat" you get crushed by your
own words. Your position is not very respectable in this scenario. The
title of "EUNUCH" was not bestowed upon you gratuitously; you placed
yourself in this position with your stupid comments. You obtained the title
"the old-fashioned way, you earned it."
JB, it appears that you are using philosophy as a fig tree leaf, trying to
cover your cultural nakedness. We also see it in your boasting: "I am
reading a couple of dozen books." It doesn't depend on quantity, but
quality: how much you read vs. how much you digest. By the way you express
yourself, we can see you do not absorb too much of what you read.
Your subconscious is betraying you again when you say: "Eunuchs were highly
regarded in Plato." You are admitting you are a eunuch, but want to be
perceived as a respectable one. The plaintive litany in your replies to my
writings show your ignorance, hypocrisy, and depravity. You refer to what
you perceive to be wrong answers as "lies", and then you come to that brutal
robbery and assault on John Keats, stealing one of his sentences and
attributing it to J.S. Mill -- and refer to this MEGA LIE and PROFANATION as
a mere "misattributuion." You are a hypocrite and a liar.
This is a sample of your vulgarity. You wrote: "Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.."
"cocksucker" "White race -- squirt squirt"
You then try to appear like a good boy, saying such a thing as: "I never
mentioned dick." Again, you brought that filthy language that I described
as "gangmember lexicon".
Jumangi, the Freudian fantasies that you have _demonstrate_ that you are not
only an ignorant bastard, but also a pervert. You wrote: "GET BEHIND ME,
SATAN!!!" This indicates that the perverted imagery that you had was the
result of being sodomized by Satan; and your "Ha Ha Ha.." "squirt squirt"
shows that you, son of a bitch, like it by the persistence of your "Ha Ha
Ha" in your writings. You really enjoy Satan's "instrument".
And again, liar, you brought up this subject when you lacked reasonable
arguments for the topic under discussion. It was your frustration of being
ridiculed in front of your audience.
We are still expecting your answers to Max's questions regarding the schools
of philosophy and influences, as well as works, of that pithecanthropus,
Johnny Cochran.
Making a portrait of someone before their time happens often: Christian
thought portrays people as sinners before they are born.
Gertrude Stein's portrait by Pablo Picasso never had any likeness of the
sitter until many years later. For a good portrait what matters is the
"likeness" and "truth" rather than when or how it was made.
Shakespeare made a good portrait of you in "The Merchant of Venice," as
Shylock. It is clear, and it is true, hypocrite!
Your claim that MODERNISM led to 2 world wars is nonsense. There were wars
before MODERNISM. War is the result of man's greed and has nothing to do
with an artistic movement. What you say is fallacious.
Your questions on beauty and truth have already been answered in previous
posts to the "EUNUCH". Like trying to describe God, as the great
philosopher said: "The question is complex, and life is short." You cannot
find God by your own means in the same way you don't find truth and beauty
only by your own means. "YOU HAVE TO BE TOUCHED BY IT." Then, ignorant
EUNUCH, if this ever happens to you (and I have my doubts), you will be able
to recover your virility in the appreciation for the arts, being cured of
your cultural impotency.
Those "losers" (according to your own criteria) that were rejected by the
French Academy, and not allowed to expose their works in the Salon
constitute some of the most appreciated styles in art today: IMPRESSIONISM
and FAUVES (EXPRESSIONISM).
I believe Van Gogh is yet another "loser" according to you. He never sold a
single painting in his life. Still, one of his works was among the most
highly paid for in art history.
The kind of success we are referring to has to do with _artistic or
intellectual achievement_. It has absolutely nothing to do with money or
status.
Jumangi, you need to go back to Plato's "Georgias" and digest what you read.
I believe you have spent so much time posting it in this forum that you have
not had the time to read it. As ignorant as you are, I don't know if you
will ever be able to absorb the substance and ideas it contains. For an
idiot like you it is a heavy load that is keeping you like a prisoner
instead of providing you with the wings of freedom of thought to guide you
to art appreciation.
You sound like a short-legged Clintonesque liar in your responses, trying to
cover your stupidity and ignorance with verbiage.
It is time for you to turn the page on Plato and see a little bit of
Aristotle. Later on, you will learn that "THE HEART ALSO HAS ITS REASONS."
And then, ignoramus, "Kant's philosophy states that we cannot know with
certainty what the world is like 'in itself'. We can only know what the
world is like 'for me' -- or for everybody. Kant's greatest contribution to
philosophy is the dividing line he draws between things in themselves -- das
ding an sich -- and things as they appear to us."
We can never have certain knowledge of things 'in themselves'. We can only
know how things 'appear' to us.
As Calderon de la Barca wrote in "Life is a Dream": "What is life? A
madness. What is life? An illusion, a shadow, a story, and the greatest
good is little enough, for all life is a dream..."
And as Coleridge writes:
"What if you slept? And what if, in your sleep, you dreamed? And what if,
in your dream, you went to heaven and there plucked a strange and beautiful
flower? And what if, when you awoke, you had the flower in your hand? Ah,
what then?"
This is not "WORTHLESS"; it is a jewel in literature. Again, Jumangi,
"Honey wasn't meant for the mouth of the ass."
I can't imagine a world without the works you deem "WORTHLESS".
I can't imagine a world without "Carmen", "La Boheme" or "La Traviata".
Perhaps you can substitute these with masterpieces from your list of
"philosophers, artists, cultural treasures and leaders of civilization." Go
ahead and name some of their masterpieces!!! ;-)
You are a CULTURAL LEPER, a CULTURAL TERRORIST, and a MENTAL EUNUCH.
Regards,
Pyro
>The EUNUCH wrote:
>
>"So, J.S. Mill, who was heavily influenced by Coleridge and the romantic
>movement, inclusive of his 'deep impressions' with poetry such as Keats and
>Wordsworth, obtained a recasting of 'philosophy' away from the classical
>dialectics and instead became yet another of the WORTHLESS ROMANTIC
>RHETORICIANS..."
>Romanticism was the inspiration for Gaudy. Without the ROMANTIC influence,
>you couldn't conceive the IMPRESSIONISTIC movement in painting: Monet,
>Manet, Pissarro, Renoir, Cezanne, Van Gogh, Toulouse-Lautrec, and Picasso,
>CUBISM, and ALL MODERN MOVEMENTS. To cut the ROMANTIC period from the
>history of culture would be like a castration, a cultural mutilation
>depriving the arts from one of the most vital, prolific, and rich influences
>history has ever known.
>
>By the way, you never explained by what standard you measured these artists
>to give them that low grade -- "WORTHLESS" -- and, on the other hand, how
>you derived the title of your group of Negroes as "SUCCESSFUL, ARTISTIC, AND
>CULTURAL TREASURES [...] RESPECTED INDIVIDUALS, LEADERS OF CIVILIZATION, AND
>CONTRIBUTORS TO THE POSITIVE GOOD."
>You are a CULTURAL LEPER, a CULTURAL TERRORIST, and a MENTAL EUNUCH.
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>>Without the ROMANTIC influence,
>>you couldn't conceive the IMPRESSIONISTIC movement in painting: Monet,
>>Manet, Pissarro, Renoir, Cezanne, Van Gogh, Toulouse-Lautrec, and Picasso,
>>CUBISM, and ALL MODERN MOVEMENTS.
I'm more inclined to thank the advent of photography for the impressionistic
movement and all the later pig swill that arose from it. But perhaps that's
a bit off-topic?
__
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>Someone (God knows who) wrote:
>
>>>Without the ROMANTIC influence,
>>>you couldn't conceive the IMPRESSIONISTIC movement in painting: Monet,
>>>Manet, Pissarro, Renoir, Cezanne, Van Gogh, Toulouse-Lautrec, and
Picasso,
>>>CUBISM, and ALL MODERN MOVEMENTS.
>
>I'm more inclined to thank the advent of photography for the
impressionistic
>movement and all the later pig swill that arose from it. But perhaps that's
>a bit off-topic?
Your statement shows what an ignorant idiot you are.
>"Where be the true men?"
How would a swine know?
Pyro
I'm inclined to believe, Pyro, that your self esteem would take a giant leap
forward if you'd simply go out and find yourself a woman--or a man, if
that's what you're happy with. If you continue on your present course I fear
you'll soon be sharing quarters with our friend Ted.
>I'm inclined to believe, Pyro, that your self esteem would take a giant
leap
>forward if you'd simply go out and find yourself a woman--or a man, if
>that's what you're happy with. If you continue on your present course I
fear
>you'll soon be sharing quarters with our friend Ted.
I'm more inclined to believe one of your relatives will be sharing a cell
with Ted, after you turn him/her in on the slightest of suspician from the
government. Same goes for your friend, FBI Susie.
Regards,
Pyro
--
"I'm more inclined to thank the advent of photography for the
impressionistic movement and all the later pig swill that arose from it."
-- Mignarda (showing his intelligence and wisdom)
>Mignarda wrote:
>
>>I'm inclined to believe, Pyro, that your self esteem would take a giant
>leap
>>forward if you'd simply go out and find yourself a woman--or a man, if
>>that's what you're happy with. If you continue on your present course I
>fear
>>you'll soon be sharing quarters with our friend Ted.
>
>I'm more inclined to believe one of your relatives will be sharing a cell
>with Ted, after you turn him/her in on the slightest of suspician from the
>government. Same goes for your friend, FBI Susie.
>
>Regards,
>Pyro
Paranoia. Great destroya.
OB
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