JD 4310 help in making a decesion is this enough HP?
dav...@yahoo.com
4310 ehydro 4wd, 430 FEL, Turf tires (with 88 hours on it) and brand
new LX5 to go with it. (32 hp, 26hp at the PTO).
Ballance of warranty on power train and 1 year on everything else it's
in great shape, complete oil and service before delivery. I offered
$16,000 cash.. what do you folks think, good price? Is this a good
choice tractor, mainly bush hog and yardwork, clipping pasture and
light FEL work I'd appreciate your comments ASAP. How is this on
rolling terrain?
Is this to little HP for the work, or, is it a good match. We have a
total of about 20 acres, but about 50% may be cut for hay next year.
I'd like to hear if you folks think this is enough HP, were not cutting
anything HUGE, just keeping it cleaned up probably monthly.
Randy
I bought a new JD 3320, 4wd, power reverser, fel, lx5, box blade,
industrial tires and a real nice 18 ft trailer for $19K several months
ago.
The 3320 has 33 hp. And we are also using it for about all the reasons
you mentioned except our ground is not rolling but real steep hills.
So
far the 3320 is working out just great and hasn't disappointed me yet.
No problems with not enough power.
Randy
music...@gmail.com
this Used 4310 with only 88 hours on it.. they delivered it the other
day, I spent about 2 hours bush hogging ran across some flat area's by
the driveway in and along some of the sloped area. the Bush Hog didn't
mind it at all and the tractor handled great... I am very happy with my
decesion... Oh Yea, the areas were kind of damp and the tractor was
very stable, I am sure the liquid filled rear tires helped alot! All
in all I think I"m extreamly happy with the unit.
Thanks again for the reply...
Dave
Randy
music...@gmail.com wrote:
> Randy, Thanks for the reply, I was looking at the3320 when I found
> this Used 4310 with only 88 hours on it.. they delivered it the other
> day, I spent about 2 hours bush hogging ran across some flat area's by
> the driveway in and along some of the sloped area. the Bush Hog didn't
> mind it at all and the tractor handled great... I am very happy with my
> decesion... Oh Yea, the areas were kind of damp and the tractor was
> very stable, I am sure the liquid filled rear tires helped alot! All
> in all I think I"m extreamly happy with the unit.
>
> Thanks again for the reply...
>
> Dave
How's that 4310 working out by now ?
Randy
dav...@yahoo.com
bushog has cut all of our property with out a hitch.. I even spent a
few hours yesterday trimming around our 3 ponds .. backing the tractor
with the bush hog back and cleared 97% of the brush that had been
growing for 2 years... it is just one heck of a work horse... I'd have
to get out and check the meter, but, can you beleive I have about 118
hours on it now... that's about 30 hours of use and I've gone through
pretty much 25 galons of fuel or about 1 gallon per hour.. but keep in
mind, I'm kept the engine at 2600 rpm's almost the total time.. I have
seen others that say they get 2x that but i'm not sure what they get on
constant use with the bush hog but, mine is getting pretty close to the
0.8 to 1 gallon per hour.
There are a couple of hills I had to cut on and the tractor bogged down
just a little, but going up the hill was just fine in 4 wheel drive.
I imagine if I had got about 5 hp or more I may not have bogged down
but to tell you the truth, about 98% of the property was cut with no
problem at all.. I am a happy camper! Thanks for asking!
I have not tried the finishing mower yet, that is next..
Thanks for the contact..
Randy
dav...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi Randy... well I am so impressed with this tractor the 4310 with the
> bushog has cut all of our property with out a hitch.. I even spent a
> few hours yesterday trimming around our 3 ponds .. backing the tractor
> with the bush hog back and cleared 97% of the brush that had been
> growing for 2 years... it is just one heck of a work horse... I'd have
> to get out and check the meter, but, can you beleive I have about 118
> hours on it now... that's about 30 hours of use and I've gone through
> pretty much 25 galons of fuel or about 1 gallon per hour.. but keep in
> mind, I'm kept the engine at 2600 rpm's almost the total time.. I have
> seen others that say they get 2x that but i'm not sure what they get on
> constant use with the bush hog but, mine is getting pretty close to the
> 0.8 to 1 gallon per hour.
>
> There are a couple of hills I had to cut on and the tractor bogged down
> just a little, but going up the hill was just fine in 4 wheel drive.
>
> I imagine if I had got about 5 hp or more I may not have bogged down
> but to tell you the truth, about 98% of the property was cut with no
> problem at all.. I am a happy camper! Thanks for asking!
>
> I have not tried the finishing mower yet, that is next..
>
> Thanks for the contact..
I'm real surprised you bogged down on a hill. I've yet to have that
happen
and our property is real steep. But I also keep it geared low while
bush
hogging.
I'm going to be removing trees & stumps this next week and then will
be using the boxblade to try & level out a site for our new garage &
shop.
Should be interesting and entertaining as I have never used a box blade
before.
Randy
dav...@yahoo.com
myself and figured if I had changed to the A range I would have done
better on the hill.... it really was not a big deal, I just slowed up
a little and it finished the job just fine. I wish I had a box
blade... that will probably be my next purchase.
Thanks for the note and good luck with the garage.... I"ll need a
shelter for the new tractor soon as well
Dave
Don Young
<dav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Keep in mind that a tractor with a bushhog or mower should be kept running
at full governed speed. Select the gear for a suitable ground speed. You may
need to slow the engine for turns, etc. but otherwise keep it at full speed
for best cutter action and clippings distribution.
Keeping everything tight and properly lubricated is key to minimizing
repairs.
Don Young
dav...@yahoo.com
the rated RPM, there was only 1 instance that I felt the tractor bog
just a little but when I backed off from the (forward pedal) the rpms
came back up which probably tells me that the foward motion of the
tractor slowing down put more power to the PTO as it came right back to
the rated speed in RPM, just a little slower on the hill.. Now keep in
mind, we have 24 acres, Im new to the tractor but all in all it did
wonderful, I am very happy with the tractor, even more happy I got the
ehydro model... for a non experianced driver, it was very easy to
handle and concentrate on what I was doing rather than what gear I was
in at the time. ..
Dave
Jim Ledford
> Don, thanks for the note back, I did have the tractor running at 2600
> the rated RPM, there was only 1 instance that I felt the tractor bog
> just a little but when I backed off from the (forward pedal) the rpms
> came back up which probably tells me that the foward motion of the
> tractor slowing down put more power to the PTO as it came right back to
> the rated speed in RPM, just a little slower on the hill.. Now keep in
> mind, we have 24 acres, Im new to the tractor but all in all it did
> wonderful, I am very happy with the tractor, even more happy I got the
> ehydro model... for a non experianced driver, it was very easy to
> handle and concentrate on what I was doing rather than what gear I was
> in at the time. ..
>
> Dave
interesting how you were able to admit to being a non
experienced driver. shows a good quality in you. most
people want to act like they've been there, done that,
and got the medal for excellence.
take your time and allow the tractor to teach you about
the do and the don't. be careful on the sides of inclines
so as to not turn over.
Shell ROTELLA and there's nothing else for a diesel so
allow nothing else in that crank case.
these are my tractors and by using the back links you
can view some of my Farming.
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t/h/theplanter/tractors.html
best 2U,
Jim
Larry Caldwell
dav...@yahoo.com (dav...@yahoo.com) says...
> I am very happy with the tractor, even more happy I got the
> ehydro model... for a non experianced driver, it was very easy to
> handle and concentrate on what I was doing rather than what gear I was
> in at the time. ..
It will last longer for general utility work, too. Look Ma, no clutch!
Over the long run, stick with the service intervals, keep the filters
and fluids clean, and keep an eye on the radiator screen and coolant
levels.
My dad farmed for 40 years, and we are still running a tractor he bought
over 30 years ago. He had a strict rule that every piece of equipment
was serviced at the end of every working day, and before it was put away
for the winter.
I'm sure the rule was inherited from the days when the horse ate before
the farmer ate, but over the long run it saved messing with equipment
that was not ready to work, or running equipment that had not been
serviced. At the end of the day, the fuel tanks were topped off, the
fluids checked, the radiator fins were blown out, and all the zerk
fittings got a shot of grease.
I pressure wash my tractor when it starts to get covered in dust and
chaff. A clean machine runs cooler, and there is less chance of
abrasive dirt working its way into the machinery.
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Larry Caldwell
Ledford) says...
> Shell ROTELLA and there's nothing else for a diesel so
> allow nothing else in that crank case.
I use Mobil Delvac1 15w-40.
Jim Ledford
>
> Jim Ledford says...
>
> > Shell ROTELLA and there's nothing else for a diesel so
> > allow nothing else in that crank case.
>
> I use Mobil Delvac1 15w-40.
ROTELLA 15w-40 has an additive which breaks down the
sulfur in diesel fuel. might not make much difference
in a few years when we are all forced into using the new
low sulfur diesel fuels.
my local fuel supply dealer went to a demonstration information
class on the new fuels. he said it took 8 gallons of the new low
sulfur fuel to do the work done by 5 gallons of the old high sulfur
fuel. oil company likes it, environmentalist like it and well, it's
just to bad for the farmer how his fuel cost are going to nearly double
if he continues to run his older model tractors designed to run on high
sulfur fuels.
do you like Mobil Delvac1 and has it held up under heavy use?
how many hours will you run Mobil Delvac1 in-between changes?
Clif Holland
looks like a 1-2% increase in fuel mileage (Overdrive July 2006). That
corresponds to a 1-2% less energy per unit of fuel. Nothing like the
percentage you are quoting. If it were anything like you are saying the
trucking industry would have been up in arms.
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Clif
"Jim Ledford" <jim...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Jim Ledford
> Jim Ledford wrote:
> > Larry Caldwell wrote:
> >>
> >> Jim Ledford says...
> >>
> >> > Shell ROTELLA and there's nothing else for a diesel so
> >> > allow nothing else in that crank case.
> >>
> >> I use Mobil Delvac1 15w-40.
> >
> > ROTELLA 15w-40 has an additive which breaks down the
> > sulfur in diesel fuel. might not make much difference
> > in a few years when we are all forced into using the new
> > low sulfur diesel fuels.
> >
> > my local fuel supply dealer went to a demonstration information
> > class on the new fuels. he said it took 8 gallons of the new low
> > sulfur fuel to do the work done by 5 gallons of the old high sulfur
> > fuel. oil company likes it, environmentalist like it and well, it's
> > just to bad for the farmer how his fuel cost are going to nearly double
> > if he continues to run his older model tractors designed to run on high
> > sulfur fuels.
> >
>
> Methinks you have been fed a line of BS. From the trucking magazines it
> looks like a 1-2% increase in fuel mileage (Overdrive July 2006). That
> corresponds to a 1-2% less energy per unit of fuel. Nothing like the
> percentage you are quoting. If it were anything like you are saying the
> trucking industry would have been up in arms.
>
> --
>
> Clif
I am making reference to farm use [off road] diesel. as well
as talking about farmers who are using 30 to 40 year old diesels.
big differences in diesel motors of today and the ones designed
and built 30 to 40 years ago. also, the high sulfur diesel fuels
have mostly already been taken off the market for road use.
[off road] diesel, the one with the red dye in it...
btw - did you know biodiesel made from soybean has a performance
exceeding that of petroleum based diesel in older as well as newer
diesel engines? oh and guess who is making distribution of that
fuel slow and difficult?
best,
Jim
Larry Caldwell
Ledford) says...
> do you like Mobil Delvac1 and has it held up under heavy use?
> how many hours will you run Mobil Delvac1 in-between changes?
Delvac1 just says it has a very high TBN, which is less than predictive.
I'm thinking about ordering ExxonMobil's Signum oil field test kit
Unlike most test kits, this one gives a limited range of information
right in the field, including Base Number. I'm not going to go past the
recommended drain intervals without something besides advertising to
base it on. It's nice to start the day with a pun. :)
My local farmer's co-op has low sulfur off-road fuel available, and I
may switch. I haven't checked out the price differential yet.
Larry Caldwell
Ledford) says...
> I am making reference to farm use [off road] diesel. as well
> as talking about farmers who are using 30 to 40 year old diesels.
> big differences in diesel motors of today and the ones designed
> and built 30 to 40 years ago. also, the high sulfur diesel fuels
> have mostly already been taken off the market for road use.
There are a lot of fuel oils on the market that are not really suitable
for use in an engine. While #2 diesel and #2 fuel oil are virtually the
same, many fuel oils have up to 10% filtered recycled motor oil added.
That will burn fine in a furnace, but may not completely combust in a
diesel cylinder or leave an ash residue. In cold climates, #2 diesel
may have #1 diesel or kerosene mixed in to raise the cetane for easier
starting, and prevent gelling.
If you have trouble starting an old, worn diesel engine, a higher cetane
fuel can help starting by dieseling at lower temperature and pressure.
However, the lighter, higher cetane fractions don't contain as many
BTUs. For getting work done, the more carbon the better, though that
raises cylinder temperature.
> [off road] diesel, the one with the red dye in it...
You need to check the specs on that fuel with the red dye. It might be
low sulfur off-road diesel, high sulfur off-road diesel, or heating fuel
with heavier oils mixed in.
> btw - did you know biodiesel made from soybean has a performance
> exceeding that of petroleum based diesel in older as well as newer
> diesel engines? oh and guess who is making distribution of that
> fuel slow and difficult?
The rapid drops in fuel prices do as much to damage the economy as the
rapid rises in fuel prices. It needs to stabilize at a fairly high
price to make biofuel development practical.
BTW, did you hear that the last trip to $3 a gallon resulted in a 9.8%
reduction in gasoline sales nationwide? The oil swindlers found the top
of the supply and demand curve, which is why fuel prices are dropping
again. Biodiesel was actually selling for less that petrodiesel in many
areas, and people were switching if they could find a supply.
walt stubbs
having to buy very expensive additives, and extra fuel filters. The
stuff creates algae in you tanks and plugs your filters. They are going
to have to improve it before I go back.
bad sector
on alt.fan.tractors too). Soon after the Canadian gov. bought Fina and
turned it into PetroCanada I called one of their chemists about the use of
heating oil. He said the two products were IDENTICAL except for coloring
added to heating oil on which we pay less tax but are not allowed to use
on roads. BOTH come in summer and winter weights, the winter one being
more refined to reduce congealing and water content, but carbon content is
also a bit less. Some gurus advise to add a quart or pint of motor oil to
a tank of fuel (this is much less than 10%, more like 2% or less) as
sulfur insurance which also helps the injection pump. So this is what I do
and in November when winter-weight becomes available I fill all tanks and
use that for heating in winter as well as for my diesels all-year or until
I run out.