What's your favorite soda?
Lots42
And in the morning when I need caffiene my body really doesn't care what it
drinks. (I usually have a generic Albertson's cherry coke)
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Lori
> Mine used to be Surge until they took it away.
>
> And in the morning when I need caffiene my body really doesn't care what it
> drinks. (I usually have a generic Albertson's cherry coke)
My temporary favorite is Vanilla Coke, but that'll change once the
novelty wears off.
I'd say my favorite soda is probably birch beer. Followed by ginger
beer. But I don't really drink those very regularly, so my
what-soda-do-you-drink-most-often answer is Diet Coke.
--
Lori
Jim Wayne
news:20020723040220...@mb-fy.aol.com...
> Mine used to be Surge until they took it away.
>
> And in the morning when I need caffiene my body really doesn't care what
it
> drinks. (I usually have a generic Albertson's cherry coke)
>
Lord Jim Not-From-Here
ANYTHING but Fresca
Geoduck
>Mine used to be Surge until they took it away.
>
>And in the morning when I need caffiene my body really doesn't care what it
>drinks. (I usually have a generic Albertson's cherry coke)
'Need caffiene'. This is why I don't drink soda.
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Bessie Phillips
Lori wrote:
RAT POISON!!!!! Aspertame (the artificial sweetener found in most Diet sodas) turns in to antifreeze and
then into formaldahyde at a temerature that just happens to be body temperature. It gives me a monster
headache if I accidentally get some. So if you drink diet soda's with Aspertame in them, Just remember
that your pickleing your brain.
Bessie
...Who has'nt even had caffiene in over a year and a half.
Bessie Phillips
Geoduck wrote:
> On 23 Jul 2002 08:02:20 GMT, lot...@aol.comaol.com (Lots42) wrote:
>
> >Mine used to be Surge until they took it away.
> >
> >And in the morning when I need caffiene my body really doesn't care what it
> >drinks. (I usually have a generic Albertson's cherry coke)
>
> 'Need caffiene'. This is why I don't drink soda.
I drink Sprite. That's about it for soda's. (except for a nice shirley temple
which is just ginger-ale and grenadine)
Bessie
...BTW Lori, Are you anywhere near the Northern Neck of virginia? Do you know
anyone near there? I really want some Northern Neck ginger-ale.
Arthur Levesque
Bessie>RAT POISON!!!!! Aspertame (the artificial sweetener found in most
Bessie>Diet sodas) turns in to antifreeze and then into formaldahyde
yadda yadda yadda
http://www.snopes.com/toxins/aspartam.htm
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Bessie Phillips
Arthur Levesque wrote:
> Lori>my what-soda-do-you-drink-most-often answer is Diet Coke.
>
> Bessie>RAT POISON!!!!! Aspertame (the artificial sweetener found in most
> Bessie>Diet sodas) turns in to antifreeze and then into formaldahyde
>
> yadda yadda yadda
>
> http://www.snopes.com/toxins/aspartam.htm
never said it caused disease, But it does turn into formaldehyde which I don't
want in my body (can't speak for anyone else on this one) Although it IS a fact
that aspertame was turned down several times by the food and drug
administration and as soon as it was passed, the main guy who passed it quit
and was hired at a better position for better money by the aspertame company.
Bessie
Lots42
>
>RAT POISON!!!!! Aspertame (the artificial sweetener found in most Diet sodas)
>turns in to antifreeze and
>then into formaldahyde at a temerature that just happens to be body
>temperature.
Bessie, I love you but you're talking out of your rear end here.
Bessie Phillips
Lots42 wrote:
Nope, it's all true.
Bessie
Arthur Levesque
Bessie>Nope, it's all true.
Cite?
I am constantly being bombarded with extremely strong hard-to-believe
screeds about aspartame, normally from people who ought to know better.
Invariably, they are disproven; invariably, the discredited reports are
merely followed up by more fantastic alarms. I have yet to see a single
one that's been proven or supported by any credible source. And this cycle
of fearmongering has been going on for well over a decade; you'd think if
there was something *real* there, it would have been found and disseminated
by now.
For some reason, a lot of conspiracy-mongers and luddites hate and
fear aspartame. I'm not sure why; maybe the lefties who hate aspartame are
merely the mirror-image of the righties who thought fluoridation was a
commie plot. I expect Ralph Nader to rant any day now about how nutrasweet
saps and impurifies our precious bodily fluids.
Or maybe they hate and fear aspartame simply because it isn't natural,
going by the ultra-simplistic philosophy that all things natural, and only
things natural, are good.
Maybe they hate aspartame because it actually allows people to eat
more of the food that they *like*, rather than the tofu and bean curds that
we're all supposed to be eating as we sit in a circle in the dirt and sing
folk songs about how Richard Nixon is going to kill us all.
Maybe they hate aspartame simply because the rest of us like it.
Antifrance
>
> Mine used to be Surge until they took it away.
Ditto.
These days it alternates every couple months. I just got off a Dr.
Pepper kick and now I'm drinking Coke. Before DP it was Sprite.
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wiffle bat to get Saddam next." -Lots42
Dammit
>Lots42>Bessie, I love you but you're talking out of your rear end here.
>
>Bessie>Nope, it's all true.
>
> Cite?
I don't know who's right here, but I think the taste of aspertame
sucks. I *love* Splenda. It's as close as I've ever tasted to a
sugar-clone *and* you can cook with it - it does not degrade under
heat. (Ever drink a bottle of Diet Coke that sat too long on the
loading dock in the sun? PUKE.)
Various "conspiracy" sources have warned of thyroid damage and other
nasties, but the real problem with Splenda is that Big Aspertame has
cornered the market and so the only sodas you'll find it in are the RC
"Simply Soda" varietals. Okay in the cola, but the diet fruit sodas
are just a little too kool-aidy. And it's not like you can even find
RC in many stores around these parts.
Even though I think nothing of drinking/letting the girls drink soda
when we're out, I don't keep it around the house. If you're
constantly feeding your face sugar, real or fake, then REAL sugar is
what your going to crave. Better to chug water or ice tea and keep
fresh fruit on the counter.
That's our secret for health. Well, that and LOTS OF YUMMY MEAT!1!1!
LB
-----
Arthur Levesque
Dammit>sucks.
No argument there. When I made the decision (back in the late 80s)
to switch from regular soda to diet, it took me months to get used to the
taste. However, that was really the only choice out there (except for
Tab with saccharine -- another maligned artificial sweetener whose name
was recently cleared by the FDA... Not that you'll be seeing a resurgence
of saccharine use after decades of being badmouthed as a carcinogen, mind
you).
Dammit>I *love* Splenda. It's as close as I've ever tasted to a
Dammit>sugar-clone *and* you can cook with it - it does not degrade under
Dammit>heat...
That's because it *IS* sugar; it's just left-handed sugar.
Dammit>Various "conspiracy" sources have warned of thyroid damage and
Dammit>other nasties,
They've gone on and on at length about why saccharine is the most evil
thing ever, why aspartame is the most evil thing ever, why olestra is the
most evil thing ever, why the Atkins diet is the most evil thing ever, and
so on. I think I'll go back to my earlier theory, that they vilify
anything that keeps people from adopting a "natural" diet of dirt and
twigs.
Dammit>but the real problem with Splenda is that Big Aspertame has
Dammit>cornered the market and so the only sodas you'll find it in are
Dammit>the RC "Simply Soda" varietals. Okay in the cola, but the diet
Dammit>fruit sodas are just a little too kool-aidy. And it's not like you
Dammit>can even find RC in many stores around these parts.
I can find them around here. Yeah, the fruit flavors are a little
"off"; but at least you have the fruit flavors. Many stores don't even
bother regularly stocking diet grape soda, for instance (I had a major
craving last year and had to hunt).
Tyler D.
>
> And in the morning when I need caffiene my body really doesn't care what it
> drinks. (I usually have a generic Albertson's cherry coke)
We don't drink soda. Period. Arthur, kiss my skinny ass.
Next question.
Captain Infinity
>birch beer.
mmMMMMMmm yummy! Try some with spiced rum. Then send me a dollar for
introducing you to such an excellent mix.
**
Captain Infinity
...no, really, send me money. I'm broke and I need to move.
Captain Infinity
>Lots42 wrote:
>>
>> Mine used to be Surge until they took it away.
>
>Ditto.
>
>These days it alternates every couple months. I just got off a Dr.
>Pepper kick and now I'm drinking Coke. Before DP it was Sprite.
Look, now it's getting annoying. How many times do I have to tell you
people that there's no period in "Dr Pepper"? SHEESH!
Also, it's not Pez, it's PEZ. ALL CAPS. GET IT RIGHT OR GET OUT OF MY
INTERNET!
**
Captain Infinity
...oh, and send me money. Now. Thank you.
The Avocado Avenger
At least you're wearing a tinfoil hat, so we can easily identify you.
I'm wearing tinfoil socks because the aliens are coming from inside the
Earth.
Stacia * The Avocado Avenger * Life is a tale told by an idiot;
http://world.std.com/~stacia/ * Full of sound and fury,
There is no guacamole anywhere. * Signifying nothing.
Lots42
>We don't drink soda. Period.
Why?
>Arthur, kiss my skinny ass.
>
>Next question.
Is there anything you hippies do eat that has artificial anything?
Lots42
>I'm not sure why; maybe the lefties who hate aspartame are
>merely the mirror-image of the righties who thought fluoridation was a
>commie plot.
In one of the elementary schools I went to, the kids all flouridated their
mouths before the school day began.
I didn't partake. I don't think it was commies, all I know is that I really
didn't think the school giving kids chemicals to swish around in their mouths
was an all together good idea.
I was so cynical. Still am.
> Or maybe they hate and fear aspartame simply because it isn't natural,
>going by the ultra-simplistic philosophy that all things natural, and only
>things natural, are good.
Have you met my hippie sister yet? She's like a female Tyler. Except Tyler has
a job. And would wash dirty walls. (At least I hope so).
>Maybe they hate aspartame because it actually allows people to eat
>more of the food that they *like*, rather than the tofu and bean curds that
>we're all supposed to be eating as we sit in a circle in the dirt and sing
>folk songs about how Richard Nixon is going to kill us all.
Don't forget the drums. Drums are an important part of hippie circles.
>Maybe they hate aspartame simply because the rest of us like it.
Sort of...jealousy?
Lots42
> They've gone on and on at length about why saccharine is the most evil
>thing ever, why aspartame is the most evil thing ever, why olestra is the
>most evil thing ever, why the Atkins diet is the most evil thing ever, and
>so on.
Don't forget movie popcorn and deli meats.
I was working in Subway when the Food Cops attacked submarine (aka hero,
footlong) sandwhiches. I got some grouchy bastards being stupid idiots but that
was about it.
Haw haw! Take that food cops!
Currently Xenadrine, the wonder drug is under attack. Rightfully so, mind you,
for being SPEED!
Arthur Levesque
Lots42>Sort of...jealousy?
Nah. The sort of elitist mentality you see in all sorts of out-of-
the mainstream groups -- anything the mainstream likes must be bad.
Just Lori
>Lori wrote:
>
>> lot...@aol.comaol.com (Lots42) wrote in message news:<20020723040220...@mb-fy.aol.com>...
>>
>> > Mine used to be Surge until they took it away.
>> >
>> > And in the morning when I need caffiene my body really doesn't care what it
>> > drinks. (I usually have a generic Albertson's cherry coke)
>>
>> My temporary favorite is Vanilla Coke, but that'll change once the
>> novelty wears off.
>>
>> I'd say my favorite soda is probably birch beer. Followed by ginger
>> beer. But I don't really drink those very regularly, so my
>> what-soda-do-you-drink-most-often answer is Diet Coke.
>
>RAT POISON!!!!!
Well, of course. I'm sure they give the laboratory rats at least 50 times
their body weight of the stuff.
>Aspertame (the artificial sweetener found in most Diet sodas) turns in to antifreeze and
>then into formaldahyde at a temerature that just happens to be body temperature.
What a coinkydink!
>It gives me a monster headache if I accidentally get some.
Actually, my brother gets headaches from it too, but he's the only one in
the family.
> So if you drink diet soda's with Aspertame in them, Just remember
>that your pickleing your brain.
Woohoo, I can be another Gharlane!
--
"If you sprinkle when you tinkle, be a sweetie and wipe the hell up
or stay home and don't pee all over everything like a freak."
- Lots42
Just Lori
>Let's pretend that Lori wrote:
>
>>birch beer.
>
>mmMMMMMmm yummy! Try some with spiced rum.
Ooohh... I've been drinking ginger beer with spiced rum for years (my mom
calls it a "Dark and Stormy"), but I've never tried it with birch beer.
>Then send me a dollar for
>introducing you to such an excellent mix.
>
>
>**
>Captain Infinity
> ...no, really, send me money. I'm broke and I need to move.
Will do... if I remember. I tend to forget these kind of things, you kn...
what were we talking about again?
Just Lori
How about carbonated water?
Carbonated water with fruit juice?
All-natural sodas (they do exist)?
Beer? :)
Jim Wayne
> >From: meist...@boog.org (Arthur Levesque)
>
> >I'm not sure why; maybe the lefties who hate aspartame are
> >merely the mirror-image of the righties who thought fluoridation was a
> >commie plot.
>
> In one of the elementary schools I went to, the kids all flouridated their
> mouths before the school day began.
>
> I didn't partake. I don't think it was commies, all I know is that I
really
> didn't think the school giving kids chemicals to swish around in their
mouths
> was an all together good idea.
>
> I was so cynical. Still am.
>
> > Or maybe they hate and fear aspartame simply because it isn't
natural,
> >going by the ultra-simplistic philosophy that all things natural, and
only
> >things natural, are good.
>
> Have you met my hippie sister yet? She's like a female Tyler. Except Tyler
has
> a job. And would wash dirty walls. (At least I hope so).
>
Wow! Tyler isn't female? S/He had me completely fooled with the dominatrix
outfit.
Lord Jim Not-From-Here
who thought Tyler was Wayland's twin sister
Just Lori
>Wow! Tyler isn't female? S/He had me completely fooled with the dominatrix
>outfit.
No, that's Arthur.
http://dammitja.net/frank/frank015.jpg
marci
can you back that up?
one of the diabetes newsgroups i read from time to time is constantly
plagued by these anti-aspartame ranters (no offense intended, bessie,
i am not comparing you to them) but i have yet to see one person back
it up with any kind of factual evidence, other than they KNOW it's
true because ASPARTAME is the DEVIL!!
i'm glad it's around, if only for the existence of sugar free soda. i
love soda. LOVE it. but, for the sugar content, i can't drink it,
unless it's sugar free. aspartame didn't give me diabetes, it hasn't
given me brain cancer, and except for my gall bladder crapping out and
being taken out, none of my internal organs have been pickled.
now granted, i would prefer if everyone switched their sugar substitue
ingredient to splenda, instead of aspartame. it's closer to "real"
sugar, and the soda i have drank that's been made with splenda doesn't
have the after taste that some aspartame made sodas do. it just tastes
better.
but, until then, or until there's a cure for this diabetes thing, i'll
stick with my brain pickling juice.
Bessie Phillips
Arthur Levesque wrote:
> Lori>my what-soda-do-you-drink-most-often answer is Diet Coke.
>
> Bessie>RAT POISON!!!!! Aspertame (the artificial sweetener found in most
> Bessie>Diet sodas) turns in to antifreeze and then into formaldahyde
>
> yadda yadda yadda
>
> http://www.snopes.com/toxins/aspartam.htm
Arthur Dear, Did you actually read the entire article before posting? You just
inadvertantly proved my point. Read the whole article, you'll see what I mean.
Bessie
...You say I'm a "Tree-Hugging Hippy Momma" like it's a bad thing.
marci
Lori) said:
>tyler...@yahoo.com (Tyler D.) wrote:
>
>>lot...@aol.comaol.com (Lots42) wrote in message news:<20020723040220...@mb-fy.aol.com>...
>>> Mine used to be Surge until they took it away.
>>>
>>> And in the morning when I need caffiene my body really doesn't care what it
>>> drinks. (I usually have a generic Albertson's cherry coke)
>>
>>We don't drink soda. Period. Arthur, kiss my skinny ass.
>>
>>Next question.
>
>How about carbonated water?
nasty!
>
>Carbonated water with fruit juice?
i think it's wal-mart that sells a *Really* surprisingly good brand of
cabonated fruity water stuff - called "free and clear" i believe. the
peach flavor is amazing.
>
>All-natural sodas (they do exist)?
hansen's markets itself as all natural. AND they have sugar free (with
spleda) fruity flavored sodas. i've only been able to find it in las
vegas and riverside, ca. though.
>
>Beer? :)
YUM!
marci
said:
>Lots42>Bessie, I love you but you're talking out of your rear end here.
>
>Bessie>Nope, it's all true.
>
> Cite?
>
> I am constantly being bombarded with extremely strong hard-to-believe
>screeds about aspartame, normally from people who ought to know better.
>Invariably, they are disproven; invariably, the discredited reports are
>merely followed up by more fantastic alarms. I have yet to see a single
>one that's been proven or supported by any credible source. And this cycle
>of fearmongering has been going on for well over a decade; you'd think if
>there was something *real* there, it would have been found and disseminated
>by now.
>
> For some reason, a lot of conspiracy-mongers and luddites hate and
>fear aspartame. I'm not sure why; maybe the lefties who hate aspartame are
>merely the mirror-image of the righties who thought fluoridation was a
>commie plot. I expect Ralph Nader to rant any day now about how nutrasweet
>saps and impurifies our precious bodily fluids.
>
> Or maybe they hate and fear aspartame simply because it isn't natural,
>going by the ultra-simplistic philosophy that all things natural, and only
>things natural, are good.
> Maybe they hate aspartame because it actually allows people to eat
>more of the food that they *like*, rather than the tofu and bean curds that
>we're all supposed to be eating as we sit in a circle in the dirt and sing
>folk songs about how Richard Nixon is going to kill us all.
> Maybe they hate aspartame simply because the rest of us like it.
this is what i was meant to say, only better.
marci
>Mine used to be Surge until they took it away.
>
>And in the morning when I need caffiene my body really doesn't care what it
>drinks. (I usually have a generic Albertson's cherry coke)
i try to avoid caffeine - not because i think it's evil, but because
it - hm. i thought i knew the explanation a little better, but it has
something to do with caffeine putting stress on your pancreas, and it
turn, your blood sugar will spike (upwards) and quickly. i need all
the help i can in keeping my blood sugar levels level, so i just try
not to drink it. i usualy drink diet sprite or diet ginger ale. or
water, which is always good.
oh and but plus, this weekend, my drink of choice was rolling rock
beer. it was good.
Blarg
wrote:
>
>
>Lori wrote:
>
>> lot...@aol.comaol.com (Lots42) wrote in message news:<20020723040220...@mb-fy.aol.com>...
>>
>> > Mine used to be Surge until they took it away.
>> >
>> > And in the morning when I need caffiene my body really doesn't care what it
>> > drinks. (I usually have a generic Albertson's cherry coke)
>>
>> My temporary favorite is Vanilla Coke, but that'll change once the
>> novelty wears off.
>>
>> I'd say my favorite soda is probably birch beer. Followed by ginger
>> beer. But I don't really drink those very regularly, so my
>> what-soda-do-you-drink-most-often answer is Diet Coke.
>
>RAT POISON!!!!! Aspertame (the artificial sweetener found in most Diet sodas)
AKA "L-Phenylalanine, N-L-Alpha- Aspartyl-, 1-Methyl Ester (9CI)"
>turns in to antifreeze
CPOR! (that's polyethylene glycol)
Methanol is created in the body after ingestion of aspartame. It's also
created by the ingestion of fruits and fruit juices as well as alcoholic
beverages.
http://cerhr.niehs.nih.gov/news/methanol_report.PDF
>and then into formaldahyde
CPOR! (that's HCHO and CH3OH in water)
>at a temerature that just happens to be body temperature.
CPOR! (I've always known of methanol, 'cause aspartame was originally derived
from fruit protein AFAIR)
Phenylketonurics, beware: infants who are phenylketonuric can have brain damage
if phenylalanine (one of the two amino acid bases of aspartame) is ingested
since the body of a phenylketonuric has a terrible time trying to break down
the amino acid. This is a genetic disease, one that's hereditary (recessive
trait). The best way to tell if one has phenylketonuria is to have a PKU test
done.
From http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001166.htm :
"Because phenylalanine is involved indirectly in the production of melanin, the
pigment responsible for skin and hair color, children with phenylketonuria
often have lighter complexions than their unaffected siblings (PKU children
often have blond hair and blue eyed).
"These children may have an odor described as mouse-like that results from the
accumulation of phenylacetic acid. This odor may be detected on their breath,
skin, and urine."
>It gives me a monster headache if I accidentally get some.
I won't tell Wayland.. <grin!!>
> So if you drink diet soda's with Aspertame in them, Just remember
>that your pickleing your brain.
It's actually good to avoid soft drinks. Water is the best drink of them all.
I drink close to a glalon of water every day. And I pee a lot.
Blargs pee.
I'm Blarg.
--
"Men are sensitive in strange ways.
If a man has built a fire and the last log doesn't burn, he will take it personally."
- Rita Rudner
Blarg
>Dammit>I don't know who's right here, but I think the taste of aspertame
>Dammit>sucks.
>
> No argument there. When I made the decision (back in the late 80s)
>to switch from regular soda to diet, it took me months to get used to the
>taste. However, that was really the only choice out there (except for
>Tab with saccharine -- another maligned artificial sweetener whose name
>was recently cleared by the FDA... Not that you'll be seeing a resurgence
>of saccharine use after decades of being badmouthed as a carcinogen, mind
>you).
Originally it was something to the effect of "If you drink 18 cases of diet
soda with Saccharine per day for the rest of your life, there is a one in one
hundred chance that you MAY get cancer of the liver because of the saccharine
ingestion." People read that as "one can gives you cancer!!11!1!" Poo.
>Dammit>Various "conspiracy" sources have warned of thyroid damage and
>Dammit>other nasties,
>
> They've gone on and on at length about why saccharine is the most evil
>thing ever, why aspartame is the most evil thing ever, why olestra is the
>most evil thing ever, why the Atkins diet is the most evil thing ever, and
>so on. I think I'll go back to my earlier theory, that they vilify
>anything that keeps people from adopting a "natural" diet of dirt and
>twigs.
And meat. Don't forget meat. Our teeth were meant to rip apart flesh.
>Dammit>but the real problem with Splenda is that Big Aspertame has
>Dammit>cornered the market and so the only sodas you'll find it in are
>Dammit>the RC "Simply Soda" varietals. Okay in the cola, but the diet
>Dammit>fruit sodas are just a little too kool-aidy. And it's not like you
>Dammit>can even find RC in many stores around these parts.
>
> I can find them around here. Yeah, the fruit flavors are a little
>"off"; but at least you have the fruit flavors. Many stores don't even
>bother regularly stocking diet grape soda, for instance (I had a major
>craving last year and had to hunt).
Have you tried that 'gatorade' water thingie yet? Yick. It tastes like
artificial flavoring gone haywire. "Light taste of lemon", my ass!
Blarg
Blarg
>Lots42>Bessie, I love you but you're talking out of your rear end here.
>
>Bessie>Nope, it's all true.
>
> Cite?
They support Ben & Jerry's.
Blarg
>Mine used to be Surge until they took it away.
>
>And in the morning when I need caffiene my body really doesn't care what it
>drinks. (I usually have a generic Albertson's cherry coke)
Moxie.
Blarg
>>From: meist...@boog.org (Arthur Levesque)
>
>>I'm not sure why; maybe the lefties who hate aspartame are
>>merely the mirror-image of the righties who thought fluoridation was a
>>commie plot.
>
>In one of the elementary schools I went to, the kids all flouridated their
>mouths before the school day began.
>
>I didn't partake. I don't think it was commies, all I know is that I really
>didn't think the school giving kids chemicals to swish around in their mouths
>was an all together good idea.
I don't see a use of fluoridating children's mouths.
I don't even see a use for flouridating public water systems.
If people brush their teeth twice a day with a fluoride toothpaste, they get
more than they'll ever need.
Ah, Lots, you're not cynical here - you're a realist.
Blarg
Blarg
>Beer? :)
Actually, beer has more sugars and more methanol in it than most sodas.
It's actually WORSE for your body than an equal amount of soda, artificially
flavoured or not.
But damn, it's good.
Like a nice juicy steak.
(I make my own beer and wine - that way I know exactly what's inside. Plus
it's fun. And tastes good.)
Blarg
>Arthur>Maybe they hate aspartame simply because the rest of us like it.
>
>Lots42>Sort of...jealousy?
>
> Nah. The sort of elitist mentality you see in all sorts of out-of-
>the mainstream groups -- anything the mainstream likes must be bad.
I do get heart palpitations because of it - something I tried at my doctor's
too, while hooked to an EKG.
Blarg...
...I can't explain it...
Jim Wayne
"Blarg" <bl...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> Blargs pee.
>
> I'm Blarg.
>
>
Lord Jim Not-From-Here
Now we know
Twoggle
>> into formaldahyde at a temerature that just happens to be body
temperature.
>> ....
> Bessie>Nope, it's all true.
> Cite?
>
> I am constantly being bombarded with extremely strong hard-to-believe
> screeds about aspartame, normally from people who ought to know better.
Here is a quote from research related to aspartame and formaldehyde:
"These are indeed extremely high levels for adducts of formaldehyde, a
substance responsible for chronic deleterious effects that has also
been considered carcinogenic.
....
"It is concluded that aspartame consumption may constitute a hazard
because of its contribution to the formation of formaldehyde adducts."
[Life Sciences (scientific journal), Vol. 63, No. 5, pp. 337+, 1998]
A comment from an independent research scientist regarding this and
other recent aspartame research:
"It was a very interesting paper, that demonstrates that formaldehyde
formation from aspartame ingestion is very common and does indeed
accumulate within the cell, reacting with cellular proteins (mostly
enzymes) and DNA (both mitochondrial and nuclear). The fact that it
accumulates with each dose, indicates grave consequences among those
who consume diet drinks and foodstuffs on a daily basis."
[Russell Blaylock, MD [Neurosurgeon and Neuroscientist]
This research and other research has proven that exposure to
formaldehyde is quite high from aspartame ingestion. In the last
couple of years research has linked aspartame ingestion to
fibromyalgia (in some people), memory loss, brain tumors. Since
formaldehyde has adverse effects on the nervous system and immune
system and causes permanent genetic damage, it is not surprising that
other research has linked aspartame with other symptoms.
Hope this answers your question.
Dammit
>They've gone on and on at length about why saccharine is the most evil
>thing ever, why aspartame is the most evil thing ever, why olestra is the
>most evil thing ever
Whoa. Olestra gives people the runs. Pringle's parent (who is it
that owns Olestra, again?) ADMITS that it gives people the runs. In
significant (well, I think 30% is reasonably significant) numbers!
There's a reason it hasn't exactly set fire to the healthcrap
industry. No pun intended.
LB
Paging Jaime; you're thread is waiting...
Arthur Levesque
Jim>dominatrix outfit.
Lori>No, that's Arthur. http://dammitja.net/frank/frank015.jpg
I prefer http://dammitja.net/frank/frank095.jpg -- the shot with the
ferrets.
--
"That was truly disturbing, Lisa. I think my brane is bleeding. Good job."
-Brendan Dillon (antif...@yahoo.com)
Arthur Levesque
My work here is done...
--
"The Phillipseseses know more about it than I." -Brendan Dillon
(antif...@yahoo.com)
Arthur Levesque
Bessie>Diet sodas) turns in to antifreeze and then into formaldahyde
Arthur>http://www.snopes.com/toxins/aspartam.htm
Bessie>Arthur Dear, Did you actually read the entire article before
Bessie>posting?
Yes.
Bessie>You just inadvertantly proved my point. Read the whole article,
Bessie>you'll see what I mean.
I just did re-read it. There's absolutely nothing in there backing up
the apocalyptic claims you made. Nada.
It does contain a link to an anti-aspartame site, but it specifically
appends this disclaimer:
>>Keep in mind that most of the material available through this site
>>contains no information about its source and/or does not derive from
>>peer-reviewed scientific journals.
Which actually proves *MY* point that there's a lot of bullshit
circulating about aspartame, but none of it is verified or proven.
--
"You're gonna make Bessie cry big runny nose tears, you know that, right?"
-Brendan Dillon (antif...@yahoo.com)
Arthur Levesque
Blarg>also created by the ingestion of fruits and fruit juices as well as
Blarg>alcoholic beverages.
Yes, but fruits and alcohol aren't EEEEVVVILLLLLLLLL!!!!@!!!11!!
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Blarg>doctor's too, while hooked to an EKG.
Yeah, and I have a serious reaction to shellfish.
However, you don't see me crusading to prove the shellfish is evil for
everyone, and no one should eat it ever.
Arthur Levesque
Twoggle>1998]
URL?
Arthur Levesque
Arthur>evil thing ever, why aspartame is the most evil thing ever, why
Arthur>olestra is the most evil thing ever...
Dammit>Whoa. Olestra gives people the runs. Pringle's parent (who is it
Dammit>that owns Olestra, again?) ADMITS that it gives people the runs.
Dammit>In significant (well, I think 30% is reasonably significant)
Dammit>numbers!
You can get the same side effect from eating apples, Taco Bell food,
etc. I tried a number of Olean products when they first came out, and only
had an adverse reaction once (and this was after eating almost an entire
large bag). The rest of the time, no problem. And I certainly never had
the sort of flaming rectal explosions that people were going on and on
about.
Tyler D.
> >From: tyler...@yahoo.com (Tyler D.)
>
> >We don't drink soda. Period.
>
>
> >Arthur, kiss my skinny ass.
> >
> >Next question.
>
No.
Tea when it's cold, water/juice when it's hot. Organic milk with
breakfast, craft beers/wine in the evening.
We live differently. I refuse to base my diet on gluttony and
advertising.
Lots42
>> Is there anything you hippies do eat that has artificial anything?
>
>
>No.
>
>Tea when it's cold, water/juice when it's hot. Organic milk with
>breakfast, craft beers/wine in the evening.
Where do you get this boring crazy stuff?
And I find it glaring that you eat healthy junk but still consume of the
alkeyhol.
It may be made of grains but it still rots your liver.
--
horsehockey.net/3/
[ Please give blood. It's needed now more than ever. ]
Piles of books do not constitute mess - Sulpicia
You're all nuts - Homer
Twoggle
> Twoggle>[Life Sciences (scientific journal), Vol. 63, No. 5, pp. 337+,
> Twoggle>1998]
>
> URL?
Do you want the URL to the Journal? To the full publication? To the
abstract? I don't know the URL of the scientific journal itself.
Here's a link to the abstract:
http://www.ncbi.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9714421&dopt=Abstract
What the study shows is the *accumulation* of formaldehyde in various
parts of the body (brain, liver, etc.). Even before that study, a
person could easily calculate that the exposure to formaldehyde from
aspartame ingestion was quite high.
There are many web pages that discuss this study and other related
studies. Just do a web search on "Trocho aspartame" -- Trocho is the
lead author of the study.
Twoggle
Just Lori
I've only had an adverse reaction once. Oddly, it was the second time I'd
had any chips with Olestra/Olean in them.
I usually keep to whatever the bag says one serving size is, though. I'm
afraid of what would happen if I dont.
--
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(antif...@yahoo.com)
Antifrance
>
> Look, now it's getting annoying. How many times do I have to tell you
> people that there's no period in "Dr Pepper"? SHEESH!
Who says Cappy is hard to troll?
--
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"Let's send a one legged seventy year old ex-Marine with a
wiffle bat to get Saddam next." -Lots42
Captain Infinity
>Captain Infinity wrote:
>>
>> Look, now it's getting annoying. How many times do I have to tell you
>> people that there's no period in "Dr Pepper"? SHEESH!
>
>Who says Cappy is hard to troll?
Hey, Brendan, I've been meaning to ask you... when you were locked in
that spaceship with the alien, how did you get away? After you ran out
of Bugles, that is. And why did those guys in the security uniforms run
right past you while the INTRUDER ALERT klaxon was going off? They
didn't even slow down to say HEY! RUN AWAY! DROP THOSE BUGLES AND THAT
BROOM AND RUN AWAY FROM THE HORRIBLE KILLER ALIEN! Those finks.
And what were you doing cleaning up inside a spaceship anyway? Can't
they just open an airlock and let the dirt get swooshed into space?
Commercials are so confusing these days.
**
Captain Infinity
Podkayne Fries
wrote:
>
>Olestra gives people the runs.
Pringle's old jingle still works: "Once you pop, you can't stop!"
> Pringle's parent (who is it
>that owns Olestra, again?) ADMITS that it gives people the runs. In
>significant (well, I think 30% is reasonably significant) numbers!
I tried to get my mother to try eating Olestra chips before her
colonoscopy, but she said she'd rather have the Fleet liquid.
--
Regards, Podkayne Fries
"Martha Stewart can lick my scrotum." - Sharon Osbourne
Blarg
>On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:21:49 GMT, Dammit <lisabNOS...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Olestra gives people the runs.
>
>Pringle's old jingle still works: "Once you pop, you can't stop!"
I'd never had greasy runs until I snacked on a single serving of olestra-blech.
Greasy. Ew.
Like a bad suppository.
>> Pringle's parent (who is it
>>that owns Olestra, again?) ADMITS that it gives people the runs. In
>>significant (well, I think 30% is reasonably significant) numbers!
>
>I tried to get my mother to try eating Olestra chips before her
>colonoscopy, but she said she'd rather have the Fleet liquid.
Yay!
Blarg
wrote:
>Let's pretend that Antifrance wrote:
>
>>Captain Infinity wrote:
>>>
>>> Look, now it's getting annoying. How many times do I have to tell you
>>> people that there's no period in "Dr Pepper"? SHEESH!
>>
>>Who says Cappy is hard to troll?
>
>Hey, Brendan, I've been meaning to ask you... when you were locked in
>that spaceship with the alien, how did you get away? After you ran out
>of Bugles, that is. And why did those guys in the security uniforms run
>right past you while the INTRUDER ALERT klaxon was going off? They
>didn't even slow down to say HEY! RUN AWAY! DROP THOSE BUGLES AND THAT
>BROOM AND RUN AWAY FROM THE HORRIBLE KILLER ALIEN! Those finks.
You kick ass.
>And what were you doing cleaning up inside a spaceship anyway? Can't
>they just open an airlock and let the dirt get swooshed into space?
You truly do.
>Commercials are so confusing these days.
Thanks for the brief interlude! I'll try to have it mentioned on the air
tomorrow evening.
>
>**
>Captain Infinity
Blarg
>Thanks for the brief interlude! I'll try to have it mentioned on the air
>tomorrow evening.
I should note that these would only be seen on the Boston TV stations I could
actually do anything with (4, 5, 7, 25, 38, 56) or even NECN if you happen to
get it in your neigh-bor-hood. Do ya?
Blarg
Bigredshark
> On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 06:01:54 GMT, Blarg <bl...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the brief interlude! I'll try to have it mentioned on the air
> >tomorrow evening.
>
> I should note that these would only be seen on the Boston TV stations I could
> actually do anything with (4, 5, 7, 25, 38, 56) or even NECN if you happen to
> get it in your neigh-bor-hood. Do ya?
>
> Blarg
wait, did NESN change it's name to NECN? If so, when did that happen?
Blarg
Arthur Levesque
So you "obey your thirst". Got it.
--
"Which is done for the purposes of self-gratification..." - John VanSickle
Tyler D.
> >From: tyler...@yahoo.com (Tyler D.)
>
> >> Is there anything you hippies do eat that has artificial anything?
> >
> >
> >No.
> >
> >Tea when it's cold, water/juice when it's hot. Organic milk with
> >breakfast, craft beers/wine in the evening.
>
> Where do you get this boring crazy stuff?
>
> And I find it glaring that you eat healthy junk but still consume of the
> alkeyhol.
>
> It may be made of grains but it still rots your liver.
The Journal Medicine has said, in plain English, that one or two
glasses of high-quality wine or beer is good for you. No I don't have
a link handy.
Moderation is the key. Right, Lori?
By the way,
The newest longevity research (recently unveiled) supports a
low-calorie diet (1700 calories a day or less). Check out this
month's Scientific American, it's the cover story.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000BC08E-5B8C-1D2B-97CA809EC588EEDF&catID=2
Apparently, the monkeys in the tests all lived longer on a
restriced-calorie diet. All of them...100%.
Tyler D.
> Tyler>I refuse to base my diet on gluttony and advertising.
>
> So you "obey your thirst". Got it.
Happenstance does not prove your point.
Lots42
>The Journal Medicine has said, in plain English, that one or two
>glasses of high-quality wine or beer is good for you. No I don't have
>a link handy.
What did it say about sucking down the pot smoke?
Tyler
>From: marci marc...@teenspirit.org
>Date: 7/23/2002 11:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <4t5sju0fo6a6p72mu...@4ax.com>
>
>On 23 Jul 2002 08:02:20 GMT, lot...@aol.comaol.com (Lots42) said:
>>Mine used to be Surge until they took it away.
>>
>>And in the morning when I need caffiene my body really doesn't care what it
>>drinks. (I usually have a generic Albertson's cherry coke)
>
>
>i try to avoid caffeine - not because i think it's evil, but because
>it - hm. i thought i knew the explanation a little better, but it has
>something to do with caffeine putting stress on your pancreas, and it
>turn, your blood sugar will spike (upwards) and quickly. i need all
>the help i can in keeping my blood sugar levels level, so i just try
>not to drink it. i usualy drink diet sprite or diet ginger ale. or
>water, which is always good.
>
>oh and but plus, this weekend, my drink of choice was rolling rock
>beer. it was good.
I didn't know you suffered. You have my condolences (diabetes sucks). Do you
find that marijuana plays Hell with your sugar levels?
Captain Infinity
>Do you find that marijuana plays Hell with your sugar levels?
It sure does with mine. If it weren't for Pot I'd *never* eat all those
Ring Dings and Twinkies.
**
Captain Infinity
Podkayne Fries
>
>The newest longevity research (recently unveiled) supports a
>low-calorie diet (1700 calories a day or less). Check out this
>month's Scientific American, it's the cover story.
>
>http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000BC08E-5B8C-1D2B-97CA809EC588EEDF&catID=2
I first heard about this around 1970 or so. In one trial, the amount
of fat and iron in the volunteers' diets was so low that they had
heart problems and low blood pressure. The volunteers were cold and
constipated, IIRC, and the study was dropped.
--
Regards, Podkayne Fries
Attila the Nun: A simple girl pledged to a life of brutality.
Just Lori
And when you get done looking that up, tell us what it says about addiction to
prescription painkillers, 'kay?
Meanwhile, I'm off to find some high-quality wine or beer. I gots me a craving
now.
--
"If I were any looser, I'd be shitting like Jaime." - J.
marci
well, i wouldn't call it suffering, but sometimes it's a big needley
pain in the ass.
>You have my condolences (diabetes sucks).
thanks, and yeah, it does, but it's doable, for the most part.
although, to be honest, somedays i wish i didn't have to, but that's
only when i'm feeling really sorry for myself (or i nick a vessel
while injecting and blood squirts out. that's usually only early in
the morning not quite awake shots though). the rest of the time, i
don't even think about it - it's just a part of life thing.
>Do you find that marijuana plays Hell with your sugar levels?
not at all. in fact, it alone doesn't effect my sugar levels at all -
except for if you count that i'm more relaxed, which helps keep them
down. any anxiety or stress manifests itself first in my blood sugar
levels. when i'm chill, so are they. i just have to watch out for the
munchies. other than that, it's okay.
marci
Default User
> Mine used to be Surge until they took it away.
> And in the morning when I need caffiene my body really doesn't care what it
> drinks. (I usually have a generic Albertson's cherry coke)
That pisses me off.
Brian
Blarg
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