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Frodo an Orphan?

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Dec 30, 2001, 10:50:03 PM12/30/01
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It has been a while since I read the books, I did listen to all three
last year, but my memory is not as good as I wish it was!

A local reporter made a comparison of frodo to harry potter (I think there
was another but I didn't care at this point) because they are the story
lead an heros and both are orphans.

The question is was frodo an orphan?
I thought that Bilbo just invited him up to live with him because frodo
was the only cousin he really cared for and bilbo wanted to have an hier.

Can someone check their copy or remember this from reading it recently?

Thanks!

rand mair fheal

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Dec 30, 2001, 11:37:35 PM12/30/01
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>The question is was frodo an orphan?

yes
his folks drownded while boating

Andy Rickard

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Dec 31, 2001, 6:28:29 AM12/31/01
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"rand mair fheal" <mair_...@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >The question is was frodo an orphan?

Yes.

(excerpt from the Fellowship of the Ring)

Mr. Frodo is as nice a young hobbit as you could wish to meet. Very much
like Mr. Bilbo, and in more than looks. After all his father was a Baggins.
A decent respectable hobbit was Mr. Drogo Baggins; there was never much to
tell of him, till he was drownded.'

'Drownded?' said several voices. They had heard this and other darker
rumours before, of course; but hobbits have a passion for family history,
and they were ready to hear it again. 'Well, so they say,' said the Gaffer.
'You see: Mr. Drogo, he married poor Miss Primula Brandybuck. She was our
Mr. Bilbo's first cousin on the mother's side (her mother being the youngest
of the Old Took's daughters); and Mr. Drogo was his second cousin. So Mr.
Frodo is his first _and_ second cousin, once removed either way, as the
saying is, if you follow me. And Mr. Drogo was staying at Brandy Hall with
his father-in-law, old Master Gorbadoc, as he often did after his marriage
(him being partial to his vittles, and old Gorbadoc keeping a mighty
generous table); and he went out _boating_on the Brandywine River; and he
and his wife were drownded, and poor Mr. Frodo only a child and all. '

Alatar

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Dec 31, 2001, 7:54:41 AM12/31/01
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"rand mair fheal" <mair_...@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >The question is was frodo an orphan?
>
> yes
> his folks drownded while boating

You see: Mr Drogo, he married poor Miss Primula Brandybuck. She was our Mr
Bilbo's first cousin on the mother's side (he being the youngest of the Old
Took's daughters) and Mr Drogo was his second cousin. So Mr Frodo is his
first and second cousin, once removed either way, as the saying is, if you
follow me. And Mr Drogo was staying at Brandy Hall with his father-in-law,


old Master Gorbadoc, as he often did after his marriage (him being partial
to his vittles, and old Gorbadoc keeping a mighty generous table); and he

went out boating on the Brandywine River; and he an his wife were drownded,
and poor Mr Frodo only a child and all.

</Gaffer>

--
Alatar
I just got lost in thought, it was unfamiliar territory.

Find that Tolkien site at The Cave of Lost Scrolls:
http://www.istari.f9.co.uk/tolkien/


Marc Sylvestre

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Dec 31, 2001, 10:32:27 PM12/31/01
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"Your name" <noe...@okay.com> wrote in message
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> It has been a while since I read the books, I did listen to all three
> last year, but my memory is not as good as I wish it was!
>
> A local reporter made a comparison of frodo to harry potter (I think there
> was another but I didn't care at this point) because they are the story
> lead an heros and both are orphans.
>
> The question is was frodo an orphan?

Frodos parents were killed in a boating accident. His mother pushed his
father in the water, and he pulled her in after - according to Sandyman at
least, a reliable hobbit.That account has ben disputed by the Gaffer.

Insane Ranter

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Jan 1, 2002, 1:28:38 AM1/1/02
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Marc Sylvestre wrote in message ...

>
>"Your name" <noe...@okay.com> wrote in message
>news:a0on9...@enews3.newsguy.com...
>> It has been a while since I read the books, I did listen to all three
>> last year, but my memory is not as good as I wish it was!
>>
>> A local reporter made a comparison of frodo to harry potter (I think
there
>> was another but I didn't care at this point) because they are the story
>> lead an heros and both are orphans.
>>
>> The question is was frodo an orphan?
>
>Frodos parents were killed in a boating accident. His mother pushed his
>father in the water, and he pulled her in after - according to Sandyman at
>least, a reliable hobbit.That account has ben disputed by the Gaffer.

Hogwash there was no pushing or pullong

ray boone

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Jan 1, 2002, 3:49:40 AM1/1/02
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On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 01:28:38 -0500, "Insane Ranter" <n...@spam.luckie>
wrote:

>
>>> The question is was frodo an orphan?
>>
>>Frodos parents were killed in a boating accident. His mother pushed his
>>father in the water, and he pulled her in after - according to Sandyman at
>>least, a reliable hobbit.That account has ben disputed by the Gaffer.
>
>Hogwash there was no pushing or pullong

Well...Sandyman has been known to go about spreading nasty rumors
about nice hobbits. Thank Eru for those like the Gaffer, who attempt
to dispel these terrible slanders. That damn Sandyman...besmirching
the good Baggins name.

Of course, that doesn't mean they didn't get what they
deserved...boating and all. A proper hobbit stays far, far away from
boats and moving water.

Ray Boone.

'The road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way,
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.'
--J.R.R. Tolkien, 'The Fellowship of the Ring'

Lisa Virmigle

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Jan 15, 2002, 7:14:16 PM1/15/02
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Insane Ranter wrote:

> Marc Sylvestre wrote in message ...
> >"Your name" <noe...@okay.com> wrote in message
> >news:a0on9...@enews3.newsguy.com...

> >> A local reporter made a comparison of frodo to harry potter ... because


> they are the story
> >> lead an heros and both are orphans.

<snip>

If I read the same article, he also brought the work of Charles Dickens into
his discussion of 'the literary orphan'. Unfortunately, he didn't do enough
homework: Tolkien was an orphan himself.

Yours,
LV

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