Metals of Middle-Earth
LIS-5404
What were the metals mentioned in the books of Tolkien? From the
Hobbit, TLotR trilogy, and the Silmarillion. (and possibly others
if you guys have more references than I)
I can recall a few:
silver
gold
iron
mithril
ithildin (sp?)
galvorn
and a meteoric iron found by Eol in the 1st age that wasn't
given a name (as far as I can remember) Rolemaster calls is Eog
pronounced (ay-og methinks), I believe.
also, there's a material implied in the Silmarillion when discussing
the things made by the Noldor in Aman that is like glass but harder
than iron. (?) Again, Rolemaster calls it Laen, methinks. (pronounced line)
I don't think Tolkien gives it a name, but can any of you elven-
linguist dudes out there come up with something akin to "Hard glass"
or "Iron glass"? (Ang-...)
Thanks!!!
Chris Rasmus
fa00...@garnet.acns.fsu.edu
Menel (Q. "The Heavens")
Melangedhel Mellonaugrim Morcrist (Cris for short! ;)
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Dermot
: What were the metals mentioned in the books of Tolkien? From the
: Hobbit, TLotR trilogy, and the Silmarillion. (and possibly others
: if you guys have more references than I)
: silver
: gold
: iron
: mithril
: ithildin (sp?)
: galvorn
: and a meteoric iron found by Eol in the 1st age that wasn't
: given a name (as far as I can remember) Rolemaster calls is Eog
: pronounced (ay-og methinks), I believe.
Well I have managed to get a list of the metals found in Moria over the
ages, how many are directly from JRRT I cannot say but here it is anyway.
Adarcer Alloy (Iron/Carbon/Titanium).- V.Hard
Alcam Tin.
Ang Iron.
Borang Steadfast-Iron - Low Steel (Iron/Carbon)
& High Steel ( -"- ).
Celeb Silver
Eog "Eol's Iron" from elven recipe, Mithril, Titanium +
Evyth Bronze
Galnin Shining-white - Aluminium
Ithildin Moon-star - Mithril Alloy (soft)
Ithilnaur Moon-fire - Mithril Alloy (hard)
Laen Glass, as hard as diamond but can be molded. See the
tower of Orthanc.
Mal Gold
Mithril True Silver
Ogamur Flexible metal
Paer Copper
Tasarung Willow Iron (light & springy)
For further details on any of the above, mail me. Thanks are due to ICE's
Moria supplement.
Dermot
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JFZeigler
(Dermot) writes:
[list of metals snipped]
Hate to burst your bubble, but most of the "invented" metals in your list are
nowhere in the Tolkien canon. Always, always beware of using ICE's
role-playing modules as source material. In this case, I believe (I could be
wrong on this one) that "eog," "laen," "ogamur," and "tasarung" are all from
the role-playing game that MERP is derived from. They have nothing to do with
Tolkien's work.
Jon
(JFZe...@aol.com)
Yuval Kfir
D.J.B...@bradford.ac.uk (Dermot) writes about the subject of
"Metals of Middle-Earth":
>LIS-5404 (fa00...@garnet.acns.fsu.edu) wrote:
>: What were the metals mentioned in the books of Tolkien? From the
>: Hobbit, TLotR trilogy, and the Silmarillion. (and possibly others
>: if you guys have more references than I)
>
>ages, how many are directly from JRRT I cannot say but here it is anyway.
>
>Ogamur Flexible metal
>Paer Copper
>Tasarung Willow Iron (light & springy)
ÝSNIP of others in the same spirit, though I must say the names at least
are constructed nicely out of Elvish language elements¨
>
>For further details on any of the above, mail me. Thanks are due to ICE's
>Moria supplement.
And in article <1994May2.1...@bradford.ac.uk> he also writes this
about the subject of "Maglor: Where is He?":
>
>LIS-5404 (fa00...@garnet.acns.fsu.edu) wrote:
>: Hey fello Tolkien-lovers! Big question for all of you out there:
>
>: Where is Maglor, Feanor's son?
>
>Maglor is alive and well and runs a hamburger stand in Des Moines. I also
>understand he is a close personal of Elvis. :)
>
>But seriously... in a IVth age campaign I play (yes, role-playing) in he is
>still around, very unpredictable, completely mad and very dangerous.
>Possibly one of the most dangerous dudes around, mind you he does spin a
>good tune now and again.
AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
This is EXACTLY what I was talking about when I started this thread.
WHAT bearing does "ICE's Moria supplement" (whatever that may be) have on
the history of Middle-Earth? Unless, of course, these metals are mentioned
in one of the HoME volumes (I don't have *all* of them), in which case I
take it all back and humbly apologize -- but I don't believe this is so.
As for the second article, I seriously prefer the first answer he gave to
the second one... I'd phrase it as follows:
}In a IVth age campaign I play (yes, role-playing) in he is still around,
}very unpredictable, completely mad and very dangerous. ;) :-)
}
}But seriously... Maglor is alive and well and runs a hamburger stand in
}Des Moines. I also understand he is a close personal of Elvis.
At least this makes more sense, and can be better related to Tolkien. I'd
sooner speculate about a Tolkien-world-to-our-world continuity than about
Tolkien-to-AD&D-world continuity. Honestly.
By Eru! What the f#@%! do your dungeon master's decisions of which
characters to include in your private role-playing game have to do with
speculations on Maglor's whereabouts? What hints can you give from actual
Tolkien writings?
In the words of John Cleese, aka Chef Mongo: "It mmmakes me mmaaad!"
Sorry if this is less violent than I intended.
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:Hate to burst your bubble, but most of the "invented" metals in your list are
:nowhere in the Tolkien canon. Always, always beware of using ICE's
:role-playing modules as source material. In this case, I believe (I could be
:wrong on this one) that "eog," "laen," "ogamur," and "tasarung" are all from
:the role-playing game that MERP is derived from. They have nothing to do with
:Tolkien's work.
I did find a list of metals whilst browsing thru Lost Tales I, these
are the metals from which Aule forged the Manacles for Morgoth.
T Tambe
I Ilsa
L Latuken
K Kanu
A Anga
L Laure
Tilkal was the alloy which Aule forged from these metals, + some of
his personal magic. Note that Ilsa and Laure are the magic names for
the ordinary telpe and kulu.
The metals are: copper, silver, tin, lead, iron and gold, though in
what order, it doesn't relate.
Hope this helps...
Io.