Liv Tyler.. pretty enough to be Arwen?
Bryan S. Slick
I'm not knocking Ms. Tyler at all.. or saying that she needs plastic
surgery.. but why was she chosen for this role?
It wasn't her looks, that is for certain. There are MANY more beautiful
actresses.. many. I know I'm in the minority, for whatever reason, but I
just don't see what's so attractive about her. She's bony, has
incredibly sharp-angled features, etc, etc. I've never thought she was
all that to view.
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a nice soft voice too. I think she'll do just fine.
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"Bryan S. Slick" <leg...@greenwood.net> wrote in message
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Elizabeth Sorg
TradeSurplus
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>
> I'm not knocking Ms. Tyler at all.. or saying that she needs plastic
> surgery.. but why was she chosen for this role?
>
> It wasn't her looks, that is for certain. There are MANY more beautiful
> actresses.. many. I know I'm in the minority, for whatever reason, but I
> just don't see what's so attractive about her. She's bony, has
> incredibly sharp-angled features, etc, etc. I've never thought she was
> all that to view.
I think that casting Arwen to appear "real" to all the fans is actually
impossible. Arwen is described as the most beautiful woman of the age
(excepting possibly Galadriel if we side with Gimli). Every person will have
their own idea of what kind of looks are beautiful. Whoever PJ thinks is the
most beautiful woman in the world now, a majority of people will disagree
with him and think that she is not beautiful enough to be Arwen.
Also, my wife was unavailable at the time so the actually most beautiful
woman in the world couldn't be cast.
Trade.
Norseman
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> Also, my wife was unavailable at the time so the actually most beautiful
> woman in the world couldn't be cast.
Man, you're gonna score some points there.
Laurie Forbes
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[snip]
> I think that casting Arwen to appear "real" to all the fans is actually
> impossible. Arwen is described as the most beautiful woman of the age
> (excepting possibly Galadriel if we side with Gimli). Every person will
have
> their own idea of what kind of looks are beautiful. Whoever PJ thinks is
the
> most beautiful woman in the world now, a majority of people will disagree
> with him and think that she is not beautiful enough to be Arwen.
>
> Also, my wife was unavailable at the time so the actually most beautiful
> woman in the world couldn't be cast.
> Trade.
(Hmmm....... We'll have to keep an eye on him for a while.... MAYBE this
was a genuine
Spontaneous Correct Response (tm), or maybe he somehow got ahold of the
Secret Manual.
<shiver> )
the softrat
<demig...@bubbajackson.com> wrote:
>I feel she's more natural looking as the elven peeps should look, she has
>a nice soft voice too. I think she'll do just fine.
>
In her prime, her mama was a lot cuter that she is.
the softrat "He who rubs owls"
mailto:sof...@pobox.com
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Donald Shepherd
allegedly said the following...
> Also, my wife was unavailable at the time so the actually most beautiful
> woman in the world couldn't be cast.
So your wife reads the newsgroups too?
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capacity."
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Ejen34
<leg...@greenwood.net> writes:
>It wasn't her looks, that is for certain. There are MANY more beautiful
>actresses.. many. I know I'm in the minority, for whatever reason, but I
>just don't see what's so attractive about her. She's bony, has
>incredibly sharp-angled features, etc, etc. I've never thought she was
>all that to view.
>
It's her mouth...the way she
talks...gestures...appealling....inviting...carries the role...
Ed
Jeff Connelly
"Bryan S. Slick" <leg...@greenwood.net> wrote in message
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>
> I'm not knocking Ms. Tyler at all.. or saying that she needs plastic
> surgery.. but why was she chosen for this role?
>
> It wasn't her looks, that is for certain. There are MANY more beautiful
> actresses.. many. I know I'm in the minority, for whatever reason, but I
> just don't see what's so attractive about her. She's bony, has
> incredibly sharp-angled features, etc, etc. I've never thought she was
> all that to view.
Lame discussion Bryan. Obviously, it's as subjective as it gets. In fact,
it's certain that one of the reasons she got the role IS her looks.
Hilton
"Bryan S. Slick" <leg...@greenwood.net> wrote in message
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> I think not.
I think she's an absolute knockout! Did you see any of the trailers for One
Night at McCool's? I never even saw the movie myself, but in what I saw she
was just short of a wet dream....
> It wasn't her looks, that is for certain. There are MANY more beautiful
> actresses.. many. I know I'm in the minority, for whatever reason, but I
> just don't see what's so attractive about her. She's bony, has
> incredibly sharp-angled features, etc, etc.
All the more reason to say that she makes a perfect elf. I'd have
half-elves with her!
Andy
BTW - Sorry about your Hokies this past Saturday. Missed it by... that
much.
Marc Sylvestre
than somebody woulda said she was too skinny or something.
I hear Liv can act, which is what we are looking for.
Maybe they should have gotten the chick that played the Borg Queen in the
StarTrek movie. She has a nice soft voice.....
Bryan S. Slick wrote in message ...
Flame of the West
"Bryan S. Slick" wrote:
>
> I think not.
>
> I'm not knocking Ms. Tyler at all.. or saying that she needs plastic
> surgery.. but why was she chosen for this role?
>
> It wasn't her looks, that is for certain. There are MANY more beautiful
> actresses.. many. I know I'm in the minority, for whatever reason, but I
> just don't see what's so attractive about her. She's bony, has
> incredibly sharp-angled features, etc, etc. I've never thought she was
> all that to view.
Why do the guys on this NG constantly debate whether Cate Blanchett,
Liv Tyler, etc., are pretty enough to match their own wet-dream
visualizations of Elf-women? I don't recall any of the women here
going on about whether Viggo is hunky enough to play Aragorn, etc.
Now I know what people mean when they say they don't want a
movie because it would disturb their own visualizations of LotR.
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> On Tue, 04 Dec 2001 02:53:01 GMT, TradeSurplus <trades...@hotmail.com>
> allegedly said the following...
> > Also, my wife was unavailable at the time so the actually most beautiful
> > woman in the world couldn't be cast.
>
> So your wife reads the newsgroups too?
> --
Not cynical enough - maybe his wife not only reads the newsgroup, but
POSTS to it as well, using his account details and sig ?
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Good stucture.
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Donald Shepherd
<a.m...@deletethistoreplyxtra.co.nz> allegedly said the following...
No, that's a bit too cynical. However, I am willing to believe she was
looking over his shoulder with a knife under his testicles while he was
typing that post.
William H. Hsu
>> Also, my wife was unavailable at the time so the actually most beautiful
>> woman in the world couldn't be cast.
>(Hmmm....... We'll have to keep an eye on him for a while.... MAYBE this
>was a genuine
>Spontaneous Correct Response (tm), or maybe he somehow got ahold of the
>Secret Manual.
> <shiver> )
oh, i can tell you he didn't, acos i immediately suspected the same and
naturally haxed his confuzer.
that codument is xxetremely difficult to get ahold of, surprisingly enough.
of curse, nayone as wise and beautiful as MOM raleady knows that.
--
Banazir
SuperFrog
and the more she appears in the films the better.
Liv can be my Elven princess anytime.
Do Elven women have pointed nipples as well as pointed ears???
Rules are for the obedience of fools, and the guidance only of wise men.
Douglas Bader - WWII Spitfire ace
"Hilton" <hil...@homeUSA.com> wrote in message
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William H. Hsu
> [tildy visions of Elf-queens danced in their heeads]
>Now I know what people mean when they say they don't want a
>movie because it would disturb their own visualizations of LotR.
Hunh, hunh-hunh...
You said "Visualizations".
#-)
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(visualizing Muddle-earth: the e-text as metatextual epiquasipseudohypertext)
William H. Hsu
>> > > Also, my wife was unavailable at the time so the actually most beautiful
>> > > woman in the world couldn't be cast.
>> >
>> > So your wife reads the newsgroups too?
>> > --
>>
>> Not cynical enough - maybe his wife not only reads the newsgroup, but
>> POSTS to it as well, using his account details and sig ?
>No, that's a bit too cynical. However, I am willing to believe she was
>looking over his shoulder with a knife under his testicles while he was
>typing that post.
first of all, if you are going to call a spade a spade, call it buggery.
no, wait, nermine. i mean, call it an athame.
second, it is very difficult to tyope when threatened with an athame.
loonk at all of Arkady's psots from 1999... 2000... wlokay, ALL of Arky's
psots.
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Benjy
are a few women I think are prettier, but they look too stereotypically
human.
areweoutahere?
> Why do the guys on this NG constantly debate whether Cate Blanchett,
> Liv Tyler, etc., are pretty enough to match their own wet-dream
> visualizations of Elf-women? I don't recall any of the women here
> going on about whether Viggo is hunky enough to play Aragorn, etc.
> Now I know what people mean when they say they don't want a
> movie because it would disturb their own visualizations of LotR.
>
two women are suppossed to be the most beautiful women in the world.
Liv and Kate don't come close.
John Brock
>"Bryan S. Slick" wrote:
Aragorn is human, and there is nothing in the books to suggest that
he had anything more than normal human good looks. But the elves
were described as having an ethereal beauty far beyond that of
mortal men, and no human actor can really do justice to that.
I've seen the books in the stores: Elrond just looks wrong to me
(too old), Legolas a bit better, and Galadriel better still (but
still inadequate). I do think they could have done better with
Arwen (Liv Tyler strikes me as a tad, er, fleshy), but basically
I feel obligated to forgive the casting decisions for the elves,
because nothing they could have done would really have been right.
(I'm forgiving the ears for the same reason -- although I felt
better on learning that Tolkien himself didn't seem feel strongly
about the question one way or the other).
Basically I am going to set aside the part of the book that talked
about the way the elves looked and let the movie set its own terms
there. What I am really concerned with is that they catch the
sense of elvish "otherness", the sense that they have concerns that
are not the concerns of mortal men. If they do a good job there
I will be happy.
--
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Michael Martin
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[snip]
>I don't recall any of the women here
> going on about whether Viggo is hunky enough to play Aragorn, etc.
There are women here?
[ducks and runs]
--
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http://magisterium.go.cc
"Murdered by pirates is good!"
Liz Broadwell
: "Flame of the West" <nos...@erols.com> wrote in message
: news:3C0C358E...@erols.com...
: [snip]
: >I don't recall any of the women here
: > going on about whether Viggo is hunky enough to play Aragorn, etc.
: There are women here?
<checks pants>
Yes.
Peace,
Liz
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Department of English | say, 'Peace!' to the ignorant who
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Bryan S. Slick
[4 Dec 2001 15:02:59 GMT]
:Michael Martin (iminqu...@enseear.com) wrote:
:: "Flame of the West" <nos...@erols.com> wrote in message
:: news:3C0C358E...@erols.com...
:
:: [snip]
:
:: >I don't recall any of the women here
:: > going on about whether Viggo is hunky enough to play Aragorn, etc.
:
:: There are women here?
:
:<checks pants>
:
:Yes.
:
:Peace,
:Liz
Request third-party confirmation. ;)
<fleeing in terror>
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for you are crunchy, and good with ketchup.
Tiffany Case
>
> Why do the guys on this NG constantly debate whether Cate Blanchett,
> Liv Tyler, etc., are pretty enough to match their own wet-dream
> visualizations of Elf-women? I don't recall any of the women here
> going on about whether Viggo is hunky enough to play Aragorn, etc.
Viggo is pretty good looking. He has really nice arms, but his eyes are a bit
too deep set for me and the movie people have made his hair a little too
greasy. I mean, I know he's been wandering in the wilderness and all, but
couldn't a Rangers whip up some decent shampoo from treebark or something? On
the other hand, he definitely, definitely looks better as a brunette. The
youngster playing Legolas is totally yummy. Drool. The Scottish guy who
plays Pippen is really cute too, but only in the photographs where he has
short hair and not that bizarro Lil' Orphan Annie wig. Sean Bean is also
massively hunky, but in a big guy at the gym kind of way. His neck is a
little too thick for my taste, although I do think that the long hair helps
that some. As for the dude playing Merry, damn, he looks like he should be
playing "third street thug from the left" in some thriller set in Victorian
London.
There, Flame. Feel better?
-TC
Raven Mac Andhru
>>>Liv Tyler, etc., are pretty enough to match their own wet-dream
>>>visualizations of Elf-women? I don't recall any of the women here
>>>going on about whether Viggo is hunky enough to play Aragorn, etc.
Yep,speaking as a guy this is pointless...comment on thier acting and how
they represent the part instead.
Raven Mac Andhru
TradeSurplus
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> allegedly said the following...
> > Also, my wife was unavailable at the time so the actually most beautiful
> > woman in the world couldn't be cast.
>
> So your wife reads the newsgroups too?
Unfortunately not. So this is only phase one of the plan. Phase two involves
"accidentally" leaving the newsreader open to that post so that she will
come across it "by chance" next time she uses the PC.
Trade.
hoodedman
which she said elves were'cute' then said they were weird looking 'like bugs'
or 'grasshoppers'!!! I am not kidding! So she thinks she looks like a bug,
then?
Well, i won't argue....
Janet
R. Cohen
I don't know. Probably because they're breathing
Bob
> I've seen the books in the stores: Elrond just looks wrong to me
> (too old), Legolas a bit better, and Galadriel better still (but
> still inadequate). I do think they could have done better with
> Arwen (Liv Tyler strikes me as a tad, er, fleshy), but basically
> I feel obligated to forgive the casting decisions for the elves,
> because nothing they could have done would really have been right.
> (I'm forgiving the ears for the same reason -- although I felt
> better on learning that Tolkien himself didn't seem feel strongly
> about the question one way or the other).
>
> Basically I am going to set aside the part of the book that talked
> about the way the elves looked and let the movie set its own terms
> there. What I am really concerned with is that they catch the
> sense of elvish "otherness", the sense that they have concerns that
> are not the concerns of mortal men. If they do a good job there
> I will be happy.
It's all personal preference isn't it? I think Cate Blanchett was a
superb choice. I find Liv Tyler pretty attractive (you say "fleshy"
like it's a bad thing), but I do agree with you that I would not have
chosen her for the role.
I don't know how elvish "othernessthat can captured except some subtle
or not so subtle CGI "aura"...unless however the actors can somehow
portray. I didn't care for the Matrix, but I think Hugo Weaving
definately developed a character that had a strange sense of
"otherness". I think Cate can probably get there too...I am not so
confident that Liv can.
Bob
John Brock
Interestingly, after I posted it occurred to me that Aki Ross from
"Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within" would make a half way decent
Arwen. Aki of course is CGI from top to bottom, and doesn't really
exist at all. But the illusion approached decent, and with a little
more work an animated LOTR might be possible which would actually
make good on Tolkien's descriptions of the elves as a people of
unearthly beauty, and effectively distinguish this visually from
the ordinary beauty of the human characters. It wouldn't be easy,
but perhaps it could be done. But I think this is just too much
to expect of a movie with human actors, so I intend to set such
expectations aside and simply enjoy the ride.
--
John Brock
jbr...@panix.com
TWS
"areweoutahere?" <w...@w.com> wrote in message
> because fans who re-read these books many times have understood that these
> two women are suppossed to be the most beautiful women in the world.
> Liv and Kate don't come close.
Good point.
"Well" said Gimli "and what say you now?"
TWS
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> Don't blame me, I voted for Sophie Marceau.
She was real good in Braveheart.
Paul Vortex
> > Don't blame me, I voted for Sophie Marceau.
>
> She was real good in Braveheart.
Sophie is SO Special!
...But You Know That!
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Hilton
significantly smaller. She's a little petite to be an elf, right? I would
think she's about 5'1" and almost rail thin, while Liv is about 5'7" and
thin with some curves. I'm sure that someone can correct me on their
heights, since this is only a wild guess.
Andy
"Benjy" <bent...@spamlessbigfoot.com> wrote in message
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Bruce N. Hietbrink
>
> Aragorn is human, and there is nothing in the books to suggest that
> he had anything more than normal human good looks.
Actually, when they first meet Aragorn in Bree, Frodo says he thinks
a servant of Sauron would look fairer but feel more foul, as opposed
to Aragorn who doesn't look so hot but seems okay. Of course, as
he rises in stature through the book he looks better. When they
are boating down the Aundin past the statues of ancient kings, Frodo
sees that Aragorn also looks noble.
Bruce
Laurie Forbes
"William H. Hsu" <bh...@ringil.cis.ksu.edu> wrote in message
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> "Laurie Forbes" <rfor...@maine.rr.com> writes:
(Curses! The moles have tunneled all the way in.)
Tamf! Front and center! Flamethrower time!
Donald Shepherd
> "Donald Shepherd" <donald_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1676e6ce9...@news.cairns.net.au...
> > On Tue, 04 Dec 2001 02:53:01 GMT, TradeSurplus <trades...@hotmail.com>
> > allegedly said the following...
> > > Also, my wife was unavailable at the time so the actually most beautiful
> > > woman in the world couldn't be cast.
> >
> > So your wife reads the newsgroups too?
>
> Unfortunately not. So this is only phase one of the plan. Phase two involves
> "accidentally" leaving the newsreader open to that post so that she will
> come across it "by chance" next time she uses the PC.
ROFL. Very cunning.
William H. Hsu
>Interestingly, after I posted it occurred to me that Aki Ross from
>"Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within" would make a half way decent
>Arwen. Aki of course is CGI from top to bottom, and doesn't really
>exist at all. But the illusion approached decent, and with a little
>more work an animated LOTR might be possible which would actually
>make good on Tolkien's descriptions of the elves as a people of
>unearthly beauty, and effectively distinguish this visually from
>the ordinary beauty of the human characters. It wouldn't be easy,
>but perhaps it could be done. But I think this is just too much
>to expect of a movie with human actors, so I intend to set such
>expectations aside and simply enjoy the ride.
Yes! You have seen Glorfindel as he is on the OTHER SIDE (that's
before bump-mapping)...
Hey, and now we can give the Elves Bambi-eyes and expose them a few
f-stops too bright again! Hooboy!
http://www.flyingmoose.org/tolksarc/bakshi/bakshi.htm
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Banazir
(the circle is now compleat)
John Savard
in part:
>because fans who re-read these books many times have understood that these
>two women are suppossed to be the most beautiful women in the world.
>Liv and Kate don't come close.
But their 'shortcomings' are in a direction that would give them an
"elvish" look...
maybe Liz Hurley is the most beautiful woman in the world, but she
definitely would not be a good idea for Galadriel. Nor would you want
Britney Spears playing Arwen.
Liv and Kate *are* beautiful enough to be just about anything they
want to be, and the makeup department will help them be beautiful
female elves instead of beautiful female women.
Oldstone
Galadriel for several reasons. For one Arwen was a descendent of Melian the
maia and had apparently a somewhat goddess like effect on people. Another
thing is that these beings were of great age so that at the least they were
mature looking especially in their bearing and in there eyes. Another thing
is their inhumanness and sense of veiled power. They possess a beauty that
is awe inspiring and intimidating. They are not someone who could play a
washer woman or a prom date. It goes on and on in the books about these
qualities to impress the reader with just what and who they were.
The second factor that comes into play is our current cultural bias. We
have had a tendency to associate great physical beauty with the negative
qualities of shallowness and stupidity. The kind of woman that would have
the kind of beauty that would be closer to the ideal of the Elven queens
would never even make it as an actress in today's Hollywood. These women end
up as Playmate or Pet of the Year and more often model, stripper or porno
actress. The kind of beauty that will make all heads turn if she walks into
any public gathering stirs up resentment among those not so gifted and
presents a quick and easy way to great wealth. Who would think about someone
like this immediately as a talented actress?
Today's ideal in actresses is the "interesting" looking woman. The
unusual looking. The striking. They all seem to have an interesting flaw
such as thick eyebrows or long neck. Still beautiful, but more approachable,
not containing an intimidating perfection. Listen to their interviews. They
are the ugly ducklings become swans. The next time you see an awards show
the most beautiful women there will be the interviewers for the tabloid
shows. Think about it.
"Bryan S. Slick" <leg...@greenwood.net> wrote in message
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> I think not.
>
> I'm not knocking Ms. Tyler at all.. or saying that she needs plastic
> surgery.. but why was she chosen for this role?
>
> It wasn't her looks, that is for certain. There are MANY more beautiful
> actresses.. many. I know I'm in the minority, for whatever reason, but I
> just don't see what's so attractive about her. She's bony, has
> incredibly sharp-angled features, etc, etc. I've never thought she was
> all that to view.
>
>
> --
> ____ _________________
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> \ \ / ____ _____/ The Class of the Big East
> \ \ / / / /
> \ \/ / / / Bryan S. Slick, sbr...@qwest.not
> \ / / /
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> \ / / / flavor the protected will never know."
> \/ /___/
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
Morgil Blackhope
Laurie Forbes kirjoitti viestissä
<8oeP7.334$CR2.1...@typhoon.maine.rr.com>...
>
>"William H. Hsu" <bh...@ringil.cis.ksu.edu> wrote in message
>news:9uhmmj$61b$1...@ringil.cis.ksu.edu...
>> naturally haxed his confuzer.
>> that codument is xxetremely difficult to get ahold of, surprisingly
>enough.
>> of curse, nayone as wise and beautiful as MOM raleady knows that.
>
>
>(Curses! The moles have tunneled all the way in.)
>
> Tamf! Front and center! Flamethrower time!
Bill! If you make it, try to get me a copy of that
"Morgil avoiding guide for women" too...
Morgil
Flame of the West
Oldstone wrote:
> Today's ideal in actresses is the "interesting" looking woman. The
> unusual looking. The striking. They all seem to have an interesting flaw
> such as thick eyebrows or long neck. Still beautiful, but more approachable,
> not containing an intimidating perfection. Listen to their interviews. They
> are the ugly ducklings become swans. The next time you see an awards show
> the most beautiful women there will be the interviewers for the tabloid
> shows. Think about it.
So... your point is that one of the interviewers should have played Arwen?
--
-- FotW ;-)
Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth.
Flame of the West
Tiffany Case wrote:
> Viggo is pretty good looking. He has really nice arms, but his eyes are a bit
> too deep set for me and the movie people have made his hair a little too
> greasy. I mean, I know he's been wandering in the wilderness and all, but
> couldn't a Rangers whip up some decent shampoo from treebark or something? On
> the other hand, he definitely, definitely looks better as a brunette. The
> youngster playing Legolas is totally yummy. Drool. The Scottish guy who
> plays Pippen is really cute too, but only in the photographs where he has
> short hair and not that bizarro Lil' Orphan Annie wig. Sean Bean is also
> massively hunky, but in a big guy at the gym kind of way. His neck is a
> little too thick for my taste, although I do think that the long hair helps
> that some. As for the dude playing Merry, damn, he looks like he should be
> playing "third street thug from the left" in some thriller set in Victorian
> London.
>
> There, Flame. Feel better?
You shameless hussy you! My mother warned me about women
like you! Don't you know that women are only supposed to
worry about how much money men make?
--
-- FotW
Fred the Red Shirt
How do you know? Have you seen any other women from Middle Earth?
(I'm looking forward to seeing Eowyn.)
--
FF
Ermanna
Can a Jedi Elf-maiden help?
Ermanna the Elven Jedi Knight, Lady of Rivendell,
Headmistress of the AFT/RABT Charm School, Hug-Therapist
"It's beautiful!" Gonzo
"MOOMMMIIIIIEEEE!" Rizzo the Rat
The Muppet Christmas Carol
Russ
>news:<u0pm9u4...@corp.supernews.com>...
>> > Why do the guys on this NG constantly debate whether Cate Blanchett,
>> > Liv Tyler, etc., are pretty enough to match their own wet-dream
>> > visualizations of Elf-women? I don't recall any of the women here
>> > going on about whether Viggo is hunky enough to play Aragorn, etc.
>> > Now I know what people mean when they say they don't want a
>> > movie because it would disturb their own visualizations of LotR.
>> >
>> because fans who re-read these books many times have understood that these
>> two women are suppossed to be the most beautiful women in the world.
>> Liv and Kate don't come close.
One issue us that Jackson actually wanted actresses who could *act*; not some
pretty bimbo whose only experience was some b-horror flick.
Anyway, I think Liv is pretty enough to pull it off. I too, question that
Blanchett casting only on the looks ground. She is attractive, but certainly
not, beautiful. I could see a Michelle Pfeiffer or Sharon Stone as Galadriel.
In the end however, Blanchett is good looking enough and she certainly is a
good actress.
Russ
Laurie Forbes
"Ermanna" <Erm...@erols.com> wrote in message
news:3C0E3F9B...@erols.com...
> As she described the back of his hand, Laurie Forbes said:
> > "William H. Hsu" <bh...@ringil.cis.ksu.edu> wrote in message
> > news:9uhmmj$61b$1...@ringil.cis.ksu.edu...
> > > "Laurie Forbes" <rfor...@maine.rr.com> writes:
> > > >(Hmmm....... We'll have to keep an eye on him for a while.... MAYBE
this
> > > >was a genuine Spontaneous Correct Response (tm), or maybe he somehow
> > > >got ahold of the Secret Manual.
> > > > <shiver> )
> > > oh, i can tell you he didn't, acos i immediately suspected the same
and
> > > naturally haxed his confuzer. that codument is xxetremely difficult
to
> > > get ahold of, surprisingly enough.
> > > of curse, nayone as wise and beautiful as MOM raleady knows that.
> > (Curses! The moles have tunneled all the way in.)
> > Tamf! Front and center! Flamethrower time!
> Can a Jedi Elf-maiden help?
Absolutely! Now, we may be a while (these guys are slipperier than they
look) -- are you going to need a battery pack for that light saber?
Me Too!
> > >
> > because fans who re-read these books many times have understood that these
> > two women are suppossed to be the most beautiful women in the world.
> > Liv and Kate don't come close.
>
> How do you know? Have you seen any other women from Middle Earth?
>
Yeah, like how do you know that the third most beautiful woman in
Middle Earth isn't Tracy Ulman?
--
SPT
William H. Hsu
>As she described the back of his hand, Laurie Forbes said:
>> "William H. Hsu" <bh...@ringil.cis.ksu.edu> wrote in message
>> news:9uhmmj$61b$1...@ringil.cis.ksu.edu...
>> > "Laurie Forbes" <rfor...@maine.rr.com> writes:
>> > >> Also, my wife was unavailable at the time so the actually most
>> beautiful
>> > >> woman in the world couldn't be cast.
>>
>> > >(Hmmm....... We'll have to keep an eye on him for a while.... MAYBE this
>> > >was a genuine Spontaneous Correct Response (tm), or maybe he somehow
>> > >got ahold of the Secret Manual.
>> > > <shiver> )
>>
>> > oh, i can tell you he didn't, acos i immediately suspected the same and
>> > naturally haxed his confuzer.
>> > that codument is xxetremely difficult to get ahold of, surprisingly
>> enough.
>> > of curse, nayone as wise and beautiful as MOM raleady knows that.
>>
>> (Curses! The moles have tunneled all the way in.)
>>
>> Tamf! Front and center! Flamethrower time!
>Can a Jedi Elf-maiden help?
*blink blink blink*
gosh. and they say women are peaceful.
/me doesn't know naything nayways...
(case in p6int: if i *did*, do you think the guys in this NG would still
be sexist pigs?)
--
Banazir
(that manual would propagate faster than Eruism during the Downfall)
William H. Hsu
>"Ermanna" <Erm...@erols.com> wrote in message
>news:3C0E3F9B...@erols.com...
>> > (Curses! The moles have tunneled all the way in.)
>> > Tamf! Front and center! Flamethrower time!
>> Can a Jedi Elf-maiden help?
>Absolutely! Now, we may be a while (these guys are slipperier than they
>look) -- are you going to need a battery pack for that light saber?
um...
hrm...
*ponder ponder*
*flip flip flip*
Hey, lookit this!
In three days, as the King had said, Eonerd of Edoras came riding to the
City, and with him came an eeyorhed of the fairest knights of the Mark.
He was welcomed; and when they sat all at table in Alfanthrond, the Great
Hall of Pigging Out, he beheld the beauty of the ladies that he saw and
was filled with great wonder. And before he went to his rest he sent for
Giggly the Dwarf, and he said to him: "Giggly Gloinman's son, have you
your axe ready?" "Nay, lord," said Giggly, "but I can speedily fetch it,
if there be need."
"You shall judge," said Eonerd. "For there are certain rash words
concerning the Lady in the Golden Wood that lie still between us. And
now I have seen her with my eyes."
"Well, lord," said Giggly, "and what say you now?"
"Alas!" said Eonerd. "I will not say that she is the fairest lady that
lives."
"Then I must go for my axe," said Giggly.
"But first I will plead this excuse," said Eonerd. "Had I seen her in
other company, I would have said all that you could wish. But now I will
put the Queens of Alfantol first, and I am ready to do battle on my own
part with any who deny me. Shall I call for my sword?"
Then Giggly bowed low. "Nay, you are excused for my part, lord," he said.
"You have chosen the Evening; but my love is given to the Morning.
And my heart forebodes that soon it will pass away for ever."
--
Banazir
(the goond professor knew it all, nesupasu?)
Dave Mansell
> I think not.
>
> I'm not knocking Ms. Tyler at all.. or saying that she needs plastic
> surgery.. but why was she chosen for this role?
wel I can't speak for Mr Jackson, but it appears she does a good job, I
spotted this comment from the guy who produces TORN Digital:
"Liv Tyler also delivered in her role as the beautiful Arwen and at times
I thought I was watching someone else on the screen. She was that good!"
------------------------------------------------------------
The cast list of the new "Lord of the Rings" movie does
not include Samuel L. Jackson; it seems a curious omission,
since he is the man we need to stand on the bridge beside
Gandalf, take one look at the Balrog, and declare,
"That is one mean motherfucker." - The New Yorker
------------------------------------------------------------
Kesh
> Liv Tyler, etc., are pretty enough to match their own wet-dream
> visualizations of Elf-women
You need to ask this? Of Tolkien fans?
Kesh
Raven
news:9uo771$h5b$1...@ringil.cis.ksu.edu...
> >> Tamf! Front and center! Flamethrower time!
> >Can a Jedi Elf-maiden help?
> *blink blink blink*
> gosh. and they say women are peaceful.
They are not. They fight as often as men do. They usually fight by
proxy, though: sending their men. It is seen in the Sagas, where in one
instance two rivalling women kept spiting each other by sending their
slaves out to kill each other in a blood-dripping zigzag course: first a
slave was slain, then the owner of that slave sent one of her remaining
slaves to slay the killer, then reverse and repeat. Their husbands,
being good friends, kept shuffling the weregild between each other. Or
women enticing their menfolk to avenge this or that with a quick stroke
with the axe. In more modern times women have cheered the soldiers on
the way to the front.
Laurie, Tamfie and Ermanna at least seem honest enough to do their
*own* fighting, rather than sending the likes of you and me - we can sit
back and watch for once.
Wu[1] Ya[1].
Ermanna
As he described the back of his hand, John Savard said:
<shnip>
> female elves instead of beautiful female women.
Aren't women usually female?
> John Savard
Ermanna the Elven Jedi Knight, Lady of Rivendell,
Headmistress of the AFT/RABT Charm School, Hug-Therapist
"I fell down the chimney and landed
on a flaming hot goose!" Rizzo the Rat
"You get all the fun." Gonzo
The Muppet Christmas Carol
Ermanna
As she described the back of her hand, Laurie Forbes said:
> "Ermanna" <Erm...@erols.com> wrote in message
> news:3C0E3F9B...@erols.com...
> > As she described the back of his hand, Laurie Forbes said:
> > > "William H. Hsu" <bh...@ringil.cis.ksu.edu> wrote in message
> > > news:9uhmmj$61b$1...@ringil.cis.ksu.edu...
> > > > "Laurie Forbes" <rfor...@maine.rr.com> writes:
> > > > >(Hmmm....... We'll have to keep an eye on him for a while.... MAYBE
> this
> > > > >was a genuine Spontaneous Correct Response (tm), or maybe he somehow
> > > > >got ahold of the Secret Manual.
> > > > > <shiver> )
>
> > > > oh, i can tell you he didn't, acos i immediately suspected the same
> and
> > > > naturally haxed his confuzer. that codument is xxetremely difficult
> to
> > > > get ahold of, surprisingly enough.
> > > > of curse, nayone as wise and beautiful as MOM raleady knows that.
>
> > > (Curses! The moles have tunneled all the way in.)
> > > Tamf! Front and center! Flamethrower time!
>
> > Can a Jedi Elf-maiden help?
>
> Absolutely!
<jumps for joy>
> Now, we may be a while (these guys are slipperier than they
> look) -- are you going to need a battery pack for that light saber?
I always carry extra for Tinwe.
Ermanna the Elven Jedi Knight, Lady of Rivendell,
Headmistress of the AFT/RABT Charm School, Hug-Therapist
"Hello, London!" Gonzo
"BYE-BYE, LUNCH!" Rizzo the Rat
The Muppet Christmas Carol
the softrat
>As he described the back of his hand, John Savard said:
><shnip>
>> female elves instead of beautiful female women.
>
>Aren't women usually female?
>
Or is that 'John's John'??
the softrat "He who rubs owls"
mailto:sof...@pobox.com
--
"We are experiencing audio technicalities" -- Ralph Kiner, N. Y.
Mets announcer
John Savard
in part:
>As he described the back of his hand, John Savard said:
><shnip>
>> female elves instead of beautiful female women.
>Aren't women usually female?
Yes. It was a slip; I intended to say "female elves instead of
beautiful female humans" in order to have a parallel construction.
rand mair fheal
>As he described the back of his hand, John Savard said:
><shnip>
>> female elves instead of beautiful female women.
>
>Aren't women usually female?
freemartins
Mhw61
news:MPG.1675cd902...@reten.newsgroups.st...
>
> I'm not knocking Ms. Tyler at all.. or saying that she needs plastic
> surgery.. but why was she chosen for this role?
>
> actresses.. many. I know I'm in the minority, for whatever reason, but I
> just don't see what's so attractive about her. She's bony, has
> incredibly sharp-angled features, etc, etc. I've never thought she was
> all that to view.
I think that casting Arwen to appear "real" to all the fans is actually
impossible. Arwen is described as the most beautiful woman of the age
(excepting possibly Galadriel if we side with Gimli). Every person will have
their own idea of what kind of looks are beautiful. Whoever PJ thinks is the
most beautiful woman in the world now, a majority of people will disagree
with him and think that she is not beautiful enough to be Arwen.
Also, my wife was unavailable at the time so the actually most beautiful
woman in the world couldn't be cast.
Trade.
>>
In answer to Part I: Yes. Liv is rivaled only by Uma, just as Arwen is
rivaled only by Galadriel.
In answer to Part II: Sorry to hear your wife couldn't take the part.
Although I hear my ex-wife is paying Shelob.
Cattily,
Max
"I've never made predictions and I never will."
--Paul Gascoigne
Fred the Red Shirt
> >
> >
> > I'm not knocking Ms. Tyler at all.. or saying that she needs plastic
> > surgery.. but why was she chosen for this role?
> >
> > It wasn't her looks, that is for certain. There are MANY more beautiful
> > actresses.. many. I know I'm in the minority, for whatever reason, but I
> > just don't see what's so attractive about her. She's bony, has
> > incredibly sharp-angled features, etc, etc. I've never thought she was
> > all that to view.
Slender with sharp-angled features is how I would imagine a
tolkeinesque elf. Beauty is way too much in the eye of the
beholder to imagine any actress being 'right' to play the most
beautiful woman in Middle Earth.
I'm not that familiar with Liv Tyler but in the trailers she
looks kind of small so what I'm wondering is if she's tall
enough to play an elf. I kinda think of Tolkein's elves
as being rather Vulcan-like.
Way back when I first started thinking about who would be
good playing roles in a LOTR film I though that Lynda Carter
would be good for Arwen. A bit more, er, robust than I would
have imagined Arwen to be but certainly tall and beautiful
enough.
I think that Andrea Parker would be great in any of the
three most prominant female roles in LOTR, Arwen, Galadriel,
or Eowyn (though I always imagined Darryl Hanna as Eowyn.)
The biggest problem with casting Andrea Parker in any one
of those roles would be that she would overshadow the other
two. Not only tall attractive and athletic but she has
tremendous _presence_ with great depth in her acting skills.
I can't guess exactly why Liv Tyler was cast in the role of
Arwen, but hers is the only name that I recognize in the cast.
I daresay she has the best name-recognition for American audiences
and that probably explains why the role of Arwen was expanded.
The producers probably insisted on it figuring the film would
sell better to American audiences. That, and she'e probably
being paid more than anyone else so they probably wanted their
money's worth.
You have to keep in mind that the producers, the real decision
makers, probably never read the novel.
Corrections to these many assumptions and assertions are
welcome.)
--
FF
Dave Mansell
> You have to keep in mind that the producers, the real decision
> makers, probably never read the novel.
Both New Lines president, and the guy who directly oversaw the production
are fans of the books.
> Corrections to these many assumptions and assertions are
> welcome.)
If you read up on what happened you will see that this production is
unique in Hollywood for a number of reasons, not the least for New Line
taking a huge gamble and letting Peter Jackson do things his way.
------------------------------------------------------------
"A movie, a book, ancient stories, living archetypes. When
all is said and done, the most enthralling thing about the
arrival of the film of The Lord of the Rings will be that
it's not really an arrival at all. In the best possible
sense, it seems to represent a departure." - New Times LA
------------------------------------------------------------
John Brock
Ooohhh...., nice review! I had forgotten almost everything about
that movie except for the mixed animation/live action and the
anachronistic Nazi references in the battle scenes (which the review
doesn't even mention). Being more naive about movies then than I
am now (and I'm still pretty naive!) I assumed at the time that
Bakshi had produced the movie he wanted to produce, and that the
incoherence was a conscious stylistic choice. Ugh! (Say, has
Bakshi done anything recently?)
Still, my point was that IMHO the only way a movie will ever be
able to do justice to Tolkien's description of the physical beauty
of the elves and the distinction between them and humans in this
regard will be through some form of animation. Human actors are
just too *human*, no matter what sort of makeup you put on them.
That doesn't mean an animated version would be worth doing just
for the sake of this one issue, or that an animated version, even
if well done, would necessarily be superior to live action. All
I am saying is that this is one aspect of the books which is probably
beyond to reach of a live action movie, but perhaps achievable
through animation.
--
John Brock
jbr...@panix.com
Fred the Red Shirt
> In article <7b50982e.01120...@posting.google.com>,
> fredf...@iwon.com (Fred the Red Shirt) wrote:
>
> > You have to keep in mind that the producers, the real decision
> > makers, probably never read the novel.
>
> Both New Lines president, and the guy who directly oversaw the production
> are fans of the books.
>
> > Corrections to these many assumptions and assertions are
> > welcome.)
>
> If you read up on what happened you will see that this production is
> unique in Hollywood for a number of reasons, not the least for New Line
> taking a huge gamble and letting Peter Jackson do things his way.
That's encouraging. The usual problem with translating a novel to
film is not with material that is omitted, but with fresh material
created for the film, typically by inferior writers.
Hopefully people who love the story won;t presume to be able to
'improve' upon it.
--
FF
Ermanna
As he described the back of his hand, Raven said:
> "William H. Hsu" <bh...@ringil.cis.ksu.edu> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:9uo771$h5b$1...@ringil.cis.ksu.edu...
> > >> Tamf! Front and center! Flamethrower time!
>
> > >Can a Jedi Elf-maiden help?
>
> > *blink blink blink*
>
> > gosh. and they say women are peaceful.
<shnip>
> Laurie, Tamfie and Ermanna at least seem honest enough to do their
> *own* fighting, rather than sending the likes of you and me - we can sit
> back and watch for once.
Except we're geting ready to fight men.
> Wu[1] Ya[1].
Ermanna the Elven Jedi Knight, Lady of Rivendell,
Headmistress of the AFT/RABT Charm School, Hug-Therapist
"Hey, you know that fruit is wax?" Gonzo
"Oh, yeah. I wondered about the texure." Rizzo the Rat
The Muppet Christmas Carol
Ermanna
<looks confused>
What?
> --
> Banazir
> (the goond professor knew it all, nesupasu?)
Ermanna the Elven Jedi Knight, Lady of Rivendell,
Headmistress of the AFT/RABT Charm School, Hug-Therapist
"I fell fown the chimney and landed
John Savard
mair fheal) wrote, in part:
>freemartins
Ford's in his flivver, and all's right with the world.
Laurie Forbes
antitopposting people go read something else.)
"Ermanna" <Erm...@erols.com> wrote in message
news:3C122442...@erols.com...
> <looks confused>
> What?
There, there..... this is a typical trick and VERY consistent with the type
of subversive activity we've seen so far. Here, after some surgery, is what
we have:
==========================
> As he decribed the back of his hand, William H. Hsu said:
> > um...
> > hrm...
> > *ponder ponder*
> > *flip flip flip*
> > Hey, lookit this!
(OK - Banazir now thinks he's found The Key.)
> > BLAH.. BLAH.. BLAH..
> > "Alas!" said Eonerd. "I will not say that she is the fairest lady that
> > lives."
> > "But first I will plead this excuse," said Eonerd. "Had I seen her in
> > other company, I would have said all that you could wish. But now I
will
> > put the Queens of Alfantol first, and I am ready to do battle on my own
> > part with any who deny me. Shall I call for my sword?"
> > AND SO FORTH...
=============================
See that? ".... put the Queens of Alfantol first....." Donut fall for
this.
And I have to warn you - this is mild compared to what they may try next:
offering CHOKLIT.
Raven
news:3C12244B...@erols.com...
> > Laurie, Tamfie and Ermanna at least seem honest enough to do
> > their *own* fighting, rather than sending the likes of you and me
> > - we can sit back and watch for once.
> Except we're geting ready to fight men.
Yes, and the rest of us men will sit back and watch for once.
Hrafn.
Laurie Forbes
"Raven" <jonlenn...@get2net.dk> wrote in message
news:q9vQ7.102$EU1....@news.get2net.dk...
Oh, THIS ought to be rich! Like you guys will be able to just watch and not
have to get right in there and demonstrate how to hold the weapons more
effectively or how to snarl better or whatever! I give you 10 minutes
(what's that in metric?) before you bystanders "take over" and the women are
high-fiving one another and heading off to the White Horse to wet our
whistles with whatever we want. (I wuv awittewation.)
Flame of the West
Laurie Forbes wrote:
> I give you 10 minutes (what's that in metric?)
.85 centidays.
--
-- FotW
Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth.
Raven
news:BfvQ7.640$CR2.2...@typhoon.maine.rr.com...
> Oh, THIS ought to be rich! Like you guys will be able to just watch
> and not have to get right in there and demonstrate how to hold the
> weapons more effectively or how to snarl better or whatever!
I will. Especially if you are scantily clad --- except you, who are
MOM, and ogling you with lust would be incestuous. Hmm. And except
Ermanna, who is underage (and a good Catholic, and whose father is a
deadly sword and maintains a strong presence on these NGs). Hmm.
Tamfie? Do you look good in a Xena costume?
> I give you 10 minutes (what's that in metric?)
600 seconds.
Ravnur.
Flame of the West
Raven wrote:
> I will. Especially if you are scantily clad --- except you, who are
> MOM, and ogling you with lust would be incestuous. Hmm. And except
> Ermanna, who is underage (and a good Catholic, and whose father is a
> deadly sword and maintains a strong presence on these NGs). Hmm.
I cut the Ring off Sauron's finger, so imagine what I could
cut off of you! ;-)
Laurie Forbes
>
> Raven wrote:
>
> > I will. Especially if you are scantily clad --- except you, who are
> > MOM, and ogling you with lust would be incestuous. Hmm. And except
> > Ermanna, who is underage (and a good Catholic, and whose father is a
> > deadly sword and maintains a strong presence on these NGs). Hmm.
>
> I cut the Ring off Sauron's finger, so imagine what I could
> cut off of you! ;-)
Yeah! Clip his wings!!
But never mind all that -- I want to get to the part where you have a stash
of presents for everyone in these newsgroups. Is this a periodic event?
Say, "annual"?
(TRL101 - How to Start Rumors)
Tamf Moo
>But never mind all that -- I want to get to the part where you have a stash
>of presents for everyone in these newsgroups. Is this a periodic event?
>Say, "annual"?
i thought that was annulled?
>(TRL101 - How to Start Rumors)
now, now. no need to be anal about it.
<hides behind the ethymology>
--
Tamf
this group is rife with spoilers. if you're reading Tolkien for
the first time, please consider dropping us until you are done.
Tamf Moo
> I will. Especially if you are scantily clad --- except you, who are
>MOM, and ogling you with lust would be incestuous. Hmm. And except
>Ermanna, who is underage (and a good Catholic, and whose father is a
>deadly sword and maintains a strong presence on these NGs). Hmm.
> Tamfie? Do you look good in a Xena costume?
WAAAH! i'm underage too! and almost a MOM as well! um... and i don't even
have a xena costume! and if i did, i would look like a shanghaied garden
gnome in it! NO! NO! NO!
Laurie Forbes
"Tamf Moo" <gnu...@oink.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0r271uo1f8tb5kg6v...@4ax.com...
> "Raven" <jonlenn...@get2net.dk> screamed from the top of the volcano:
> > I will. Especially if you are scantily clad --- except you, who are
> >MOM, and ogling you with lust would be incestuous. Hmm. And except
> >Ermanna, who is underage (and a good Catholic, and whose father is a
> >deadly sword and maintains a strong presence on these NGs). Hmm.
> > Tamfie? Do you look good in a Xena costume?
> WAAAH! i'm underage too! and almost a MOM as well! um... and i don't even
> have a xena costume! and if i did, i would look like a shanghaied garden
> gnome in it! NO! NO! NO!
There, there -- I don't know what a "Xena costume" is, but if you are
xenaphobic, you don't have to wear it. Actually, you looked pretty good in
that....... oops! Can't talk about Halloween, right?
Tamf Moo
>There, there -- I don't know what a "Xena costume" is, but if you are
>xenaphobic, you don't have to wear it. Actually, you looked pretty good in
>that....... oops! Can't talk about Halloween, right?
that was NOT ME! and it wasn't hallowe'en, either! and all the photos are
manipulated, nayways.
...which do you trust, glassy pieces of paper or little, innocent *me*?!
Raven
news:3C12C768...@erols.com...
> > I will. Especially if you are scantily clad --- except you, who
> > are MOM, and ogling you with lust would be incestuous. Hmm.
> > And except Ermanna, who is underage (and a good Catholic, and
> > whose father is a deadly sword and maintains a strong presence
> > on these NGs). Hmm.
> I cut the Ring off Sauron's finger, so imagine what I could
> cut off of you! ;-)
I can imagine. Even without my scruples, your daughters are safe for
my part.
Cuervo.
Raven
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> ...which do you trust, glassy pieces of paper or little, innocent
> *me*?!
That depends on where the juiciest story is to be found: in glassy
pieces of paper or in little, innocent *you*?!
Well, I'll leave it alone for now. Although you may be a grown woman
by now, compared to an ancient old coot of thirty-three like me you're
still but a little girl.
<softrat - keep quiet. i know you're really the ancient old rodent
coot here, but compared to tamfie-lass, so am i.>
Ravn.
Laurie Forbes
Don't you mean FROM your part?
the softrat
wrote:
> i would look like a shanghaied garden gnome in it!
What did Bobbie Burns say ....'O would the ... the giftie gi'e us/ to
see oursel' as others see us ...'
Garden Gnome is Good!
the softrat "He who rubs owls"
mailto:sof...@pobox.com
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William H. Hsu
>(OK - I'm moving things around a little to help clarify this. You
>antitopposting people go read something else.)
>"Ermanna" <Erm...@erols.com> wrote in message
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>> <looks confused>
>> What?
>There, there..... this is a typical trick and VERY consistent with the type
>of subversive activity we've seen so far. Here, after some surgery, is what
>we have:
>> As he decribed the back of his hand, William H. Hsu said:
>> > Hey, lookit this!
>(OK - Banazir now thinks he's found The Key.)
<<<totally ingenuous hobbit-loonk>>>
wha--? key? hrm?
whowhat?
why would i thry to trick you, MOM?
>> > BLAH.. BLAH.. BLAH..
>> > "Alas!" said Eonerd. "I will not say that she is the fairest lady that
>> > lives."
>> > "But first I will plead this excuse," said Eonerd. "Had I seen her in
>> > other company, I would have said all that you could wish. But now I
>> > will
>> > put the Queens of Alfantol first, and I am ready to do battle on my own
>> > part with any who deny me. Shall I call for my sword?"
>> > AND SO FORTH...
>=============================
>See that? ".... put the Queens of Alfantol first....." Donut fall for
>this.
but, but, but... issall troo!
>And I have to warn you - this is mild compared to what they may try next:
>offering CHOKLIT.
oh, i'm very happy you mentioned that, MOM - mais, lo:
it's knot just CHOKLIT...
<<several metric tons of fine-grade assorted CHOKLITs are
psychokinetically wafted into the Gret Hall of Alfantol>>
it's CHOKLIT truffles, see?
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Banazir
(ver sa god)
Flame of the West
the softrat wrote:
> Garden Gnome is Good!
I've been a fan of Mr. Garden Gnome since I saw him on
Fawlty Towers.
William H. Hsu
>the softrat wrote:
>> Garden Gnome is Good!
>I've been a fan of Mr. Garden Gnome since I saw him on
>Fawlty Towers.
this meminds me of the old saw:
"You might be a Redneck Hobbit if the garden gnome on your front lawn is
acksherly a statue of your father."
--
Banazir
(eastfarthing's east and westfarthing's west, and never the thain shall meet)
Tamf Moo
>> I can imagine. Even without my scruples, your daughters are safe for
>> my part.
>Don't you mean FROM your part?
which part is that, MOM?
Raven
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> > I can imagine. Even without my scruples, your daughters are safe
> > for my part.
> Don't you mean FROM your part?
From my member, for my part. Or the old battle-sword will have it
pickled and stashed away someplace until the heat-death of the Universe.
Marghvran.
Tamf Moo
> <softrat - keep quiet. i know you're really the ancient old rodent
>coot here, but compared to tamfie-lass, so am i.>
a rodent coot? i thought you were some kind of big black bird.
the softrat
wrote:
>"Raven" <jonlenn...@get2net.dk> screamed from the top of the volcano:
>
>> <softrat - keep quiet. i know you're really the ancient old rodent
>>coot here, but compared to tamfie-lass, so am i.>
>
>a rodent coot? i thought you were some kind of big black bird.
Yes, a rodent coot *is* big, black bird, with a white, hairless head,
four legs, and a slender naked tail.
Note: Normally rodent coots are not considered to be pretty enough to
be Arwen.
the softrat "He who rubs owls"
mailto:sof...@pobox.com
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If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop
diggin'.
g.skinner
> actresses.. many. I know I'm in the minority, for whatever reason, but I
> just don't see what's so attractive about her. She's bony, has
> incredibly sharp-angled features, etc, etc. I've never thought she was
> all that to view.
>
Seen Liv Tyler on the news and I can see what you mean about the bony,
sharp-angled features. And I am male and not a sexist pig, woman have an
equal part to play in modern society, thats why men designed nicer kitchens
for them.
Flame of the West
the softrat wrote:
> Yes, a rodent coot *is* big, black bird, with a white, hairless head,
> four legs, and a slender naked tail.
*Please* don't tell us about your naked tail!
Tamf Moo
>*Please* don't tell us about your naked tail!
there's not a whole lot to tell about it, apart from the fact that it is
naked.
and long.
Jon
Tamf Moo <gnu...@oink.co.uk> wrote:
> Flame of the West <nos...@erols.com> screamed from the top of the volcano:
> >*Please* don't tell us about your naked tail!
> there's not a whole lot to tell about it, apart from the fact that it is
> naked.
> and long.
But is it a tale?
Jon.
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Stug
the part of the Witch-King or something. Wait, do we know who is
playing the Witch-King? . . . Oh, no . . .
Stug
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the softrat
wrote:
>Flame of the West <nos...@erols.com> screamed from the top of the volcano:
>
>>*Please* don't tell us about your naked tail!
>
>there's not a whole lot to tell about it, apart from the fact that it is
>naked.
>and long.
...and Tamf is enchanted with it.
Goes with the gosling feathers, I guess.
the softrat "He who rubs owls"
mailto:sof...@pobox.com
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Raven
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> Note: Normally rodent coots are not considered to be pretty enough to
> be Arwen.
Curses!
Brân.
William H. Hsu
>Perhaps we should be thankful that Liv Tyler's old man isn't playing
>the part of the Witch-King or something.
I've walays maintained that Stephen Tyler should have been cast as
Saruman the White:
http://www.kddresearch.org/Tolkien/Humor/RedSOW/don't-want-to-miss.txt
>Wait, do we know who is playing the Witch-King? . . . Oh, no . . .
>Stug
The Witch-king is being played by Tom Bombadil, and woe unto him who
hath said in his heart, "There is no Tom":
http://www.flyingmoose.org/tolksarc/theories/bombadil.htm
http://www.kddresearch.org/Tolkien/Humor/RedSOW/bombadil.txt
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=) Then again, I'm biased...
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