Tolkienology: A New Religion for a New Millennium!
Prophet of the Valar
Welcome to the THIRD MILLENNIUM! I, the PROPHET OF THE VALAR,
have come from the Uttermost West, the holy land of Valinor,
land of the Immortals. I have been sent by the Valar, the angelic
beings appointed by Eru the Creator to govern the Earth, to bring
tidings of the New One True Religion - Tolkienology.
Tolkienology is THE FIRST NEW RELIGION OF THE THIRD MILLENNIUM!
And to prove how high-tech it is, IT HAS ITS OWN INTERNET
NEWSGROUP! How many True Religions can say that? And you can
tell that Tolkienology is a REAL RELIGION, because so many of
its central tenets are presented in CAPITAL LETTERS.
Visit MY PERSONAL NEWSGROUP at alt.religion.tolkienology for the
full story. If you have a pathetic Second Millennium ISP that doesn't
serve alt.religion.tolkienology, you may view the NG on www.deja.com.
Feel free to post your reactions, but no Second Millennium-style
trolling please. The Future is here, so GET USED TO IT!
-- PotV
Thought for the day: if Eru had intended Balrogs to fly, He'd have
given them wings!
Jereeza
>
> Welcome to the THIRD MILLENNIUM! I, the PROPHET OF THE VALAR,
<snip>
> Thought for the day: if Eru had intended Balrogs to fly, He'd have
> given them wings!
You know, you sound like a TEUNC candidate!
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Michael Martinez
[snip]
Sorry, pal. Your credentials are tarnished.
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Prophet of the Valar
>
> [snip]
>
> Sorry, pal. Your credentials are tarnished.
You're just jealous because I have been given MY OWN
PRIVATE NEWSGROUP by the Valar, and you haven't!
In fact I'm the ONLY Tolkien fan with my own NG,
except for Suzieflame who IIRC owns *this* one and
graciously allows us to use it.
-- PotV
PS - and *don't* give my any of that math-geek
nonsense about the Millennium not starting
until 2001. If that were the case, Arthur C.
Clarke would have mentioned it.
Michael Martinez
>> >Welcome to the THIRD MILLENNIUM
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> Sorry, pal. Your credentials are tarnished.
>
>You're just jealous because I have been given MY OWN
>PRIVATE NEWSGROUP by the Valar, and you haven't!
Nope. I just happen to know the third millennium began several years ago.
PaulB
<jsol...@erols.com> writes:
>PS - and *don't* give my any of that math-geek
>nonsense about the Millennium not starting
>until 2001. If that were the case, Arthur C.
>Clarke would have mentioned it.
>
>
He did. On NPR the last week of the old year. He also mentioned that the
Vatican concurs with him.
PB
"Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that
die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal
out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends." -JRRT
John Savard
>>> >Welcome to the THIRD MILLENNIUM
>>> [snip]
>>> Sorry, pal. Your credentials are tarnished.
>>You're just jealous because I have been given MY OWN
>>PRIVATE NEWSGROUP by the Valar, and you haven't!
>Nope. I just happen to know the third millennium began several years ago.
I thought it will begin on January 1st, 2001.
1st millennium: 1-1000
2nd millennium: 1001-2000
3rd millennium: 2001-3000
John Savard (jsavard<at>ecn<dot>ab<dot>ca)
http://www.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/crypto.htm
Mia Kalogjera
>
> Mic...@xenite.org (Michael Martinez) wrote, in part:
> >In article <38728389...@erols.com>, jsol...@erols.com wrote:
>
> >>> >Welcome to the THIRD MILLENNIUM
>
> >>> [snip]
>
> >>> Sorry, pal. Your credentials are tarnished.
>
> >>You're just jealous because I have been given MY OWN
> >>PRIVATE NEWSGROUP by the Valar, and you haven't!
>
> >Nope. I just happen to know the third millennium began several years ago.
>
> I thought it will begin on January 1st, 2001.
Depends on when exactly Christ was born. AFAIK, it's more likely that his birth was a
few years before what we refer to 1.A.D.
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Michael Martinez
>John Savard wrote:
>>
>> Mic...@xenite.org (Michael Martinez) wrote, in part:
>>
>> I thought it will begin on January 1st, 2001.
>
>Depends on when exactly Christ was born. AFAIK, it's more likely that his birth
>was a few years before what we refer to 1.A.D.
Right. The third millennium of the Anno Domini calendar begins on January 1,
2001, but the second millennium after the birth of Christ most likely ended a
few years ago.
It's just like how the 60's are not the 70's, or whatever it was we were
arguing about earlier this year.
Sir Confused-a-lot
Prophet of the Valar wrote
> > >Welcome to the THIRD MILLENNIUM
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Sorry, pal. Your credentials are tarnished.
<snip>
> PS - and *don't* give my any of that math-geek
> nonsense about the Millennium not starting
> until 2001. If that were the case, Arthur C.
> Clarke would have mentioned it.
"Well, even as I write these words, armies of real life
Edith Craigs are working on this problem. Let us hope that
their efforts will be successful, and that there will not
have been to many disasters by the time the real millennium
dawns on January 1, 2001 - not 2000."
Arthur C. Clarke on the Y2K Bug, from 'The Twenty-First
Century: A (Very) Brief History'
*So there*
--------------------------------
Sir Confused-a-lot
Officer, he stole my sig!
Shozan Ando
Prophet of the Valar wrote:
<snip>
> Thought for the day: if Eru had intended Balrogs to fly, He'd have
> given them wings!
If God had intended you to think, he'd have given you a brain..
Flame of the West
> Right. The third millennium of the Anno Domini calendar begins on January 1,
> 2001, but the second millennium after the birth of Christ most likely ended a
> few years ago.
>
> It's just like how the 60's are not the 70's, or whatever it was we were
> arguing about earlier this year.
You mean late last year, but earlier this millennium? ;-)
--
-- FotW
Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-Earth.
Michael Martinez
>Michael Martinez wrote:
>>
>> It's just like how the 60's are not the 70's, or whatever it was we were
>> arguing about earlier this year.
>
>You mean late last year, but earlier this millennium? ;-)
Was it late last year, and not earlier this year? Is that what I mean?
Sir Confused-a-lot
Prophet of the Valar wrote
>
> Welcome to the THIRD MILLENNIUM! I, the PROPHET OF THE
VALAR,
> have come from the Uttermost West, the holy land of
Valinor,
> land of the Immortals. I have been sent by the Valar, the
angelic
> beings appointed by Eru the Creator to govern the Earth,
to bring
> tidings of the New One True Religion - Tolkienology.
>
> Tolkienology is THE FIRST NEW RELIGION OF THE THIRD
MILLENNIUM!
> And to prove how high-tech it is, IT HAS ITS OWN INTERNET
> NEWSGROUP! How many True Religions can say that? And you
can
> tell that Tolkienology is a REAL RELIGION, because so many
of
> its central tenets are presented in CAPITAL LETTERS.
bombadilismistheonlytruereligion.
thismustbetruebecauseonlythetruestcultsandreligionswhisperev
erythingveryquietlywithoutpausingforbreath.
andofcourswehaveasecretcodeforwhenwemustspeakoutinpublic
*URE SI LIDABMOB!!!*
Alan Graham
Bombadilists have revealed themselves to be dangerous pagans against the ONE
TRUE ERU
Bombadil was the effeminate son of Melkor, and those who follow him are
following Melkors road to oblivion.
RENOUNCE TOM BOMBADIL & ALL HIS WORKS
Al
Prophet of the Valar
Indeed, there is only ONE TRUE RELIGION of Middle-Earth,
and that is Tolkienology. The words of Tolkien are
LITERALLY TRUE and not some made-up story! I, the
Prophet of the Valar, am here to clear up this silly
misunderstanding that LotR is fiction!!! Check in at
my Personal Newsgroup at alt.religion.tolkienology
for a message from Tom B. himself!
Praise be to Eru,
-- PotV
William H. Hsu
>Al
Such hate speech rightfully belongs on sites such as
http://www.eruhatestom.com
"Melkor's Road to Oblivion: 4 miles south of Exit 42 on I-70"
-Bill
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BS
may be The Truth they aren't necessarily his words -- but then theology
always muddles my mind.
Prophet of the Valar <jsol...@erols.com> wrote in message
news:387568BC...@erols.com...
R. Vink
Alan Graham wrote:
> With there secret houses, bizarre dress sense and insane ryhmingchanting,
> Bombadilists have revealed themselves to be dangerous pagans against the ONE
> TRUE ERU
>
> Bombadil was the effeminate son of Melkor, and those who follow him are
> following Melkors road to oblivion.
>
> RENOUNCE TOM BOMBADIL & ALL HIS WORKS
>
> Al
YESSS!
Renée
--
Homepage: http://people.a2000.nl/nordho00/home.html
Sir Confused-a-lot
>
> and that is Tolkienology. The words of Tolkien are
> LITERALLY TRUE and not some made-up story! I, the
> Prophet of the Valar, am here to clear up this silly
> misunderstanding that LotR is fiction!!! Check in at
> my Personal Newsgroup at alt.religion.tolkienology
> for a message from Tom B. himself!
You're just jealous because our God's got better hats than
yours.
>
> Praise be to Eru,
And, seeing as Eru is Bombadil, Praise be to Bombadil!
>
> -- PotV
--------------------------------
Sir Confused-a-lot
Bombadilite Exquisitor
John Savard
>With there secret houses, bizarre dress sense and insane ryhmingchanting,
>Bombadilists have revealed themselves to be dangerous pagans against the ONE
>TRUE ERU
So far, so good, but...
>Bombadil was the effeminate son of Melkor, and those who follow him are
>following Melkors road to oblivion.
>RENOUNCE TOM BOMBADIL & ALL HIS WORKS
This is nonsense.
While worshipping Tom Bombadil is indeed dangerous, because Eru alone
is God, Tom Bombadil is a true servant of Eru - and has no part in
this dangerous cult (doubtless a Morgothic deception).
A false claim that Tom Bombadil is a son of Morgoth would not come
from a true follower of Eru.
Mia Kalogjera
> A false claim that Tom Bombadil is a son of Morgoth would not come
> from a true follower of Eru.
Unless he/she is one of Eru's Witnesses ;)
William H. Hsu
>John Savard wrote:
>
>> A false claim that Tom Bombadil is a son of Morgoth would not come
>> from a true follower of Eru.
>Unless he/she is one of Eru's Witnesses ;)
That's /Iluvatar's/ Witnesses, Mia... gotta be very careful with those
attributions!
-Bill
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Arkady
Rowan <goldber...@oldforest.uk> wrote in message
news:387644...@oldforest.uk...
> and yellower boots.
> New NG Alt religion Bombadil?
The Revolutionary Part of TEUNC (RIP) are increasingly concerned about the
increasing number of schisms and heresies, including that of the Church of
Bombadil. The population of AFT should know by know that the only tolerated
religion is Tolkienology (and it's official cult, the Church of the
[censored] Balrog.)
Followers of the reactionary Bombadil will be purged wherever they are
found.
Remember- if you see a Bombadite- denounce him, quick! We might even bump
you up a few places on the housing list!
Message ends.
--
Arky
AFT Who's Who:
http://home.freeUK.net/arkady
Rowan
Sir Confused-a-lot
John Savard wrote
> "Alan Graham" <a...@kuhl-graham.fsnet.co.uk> writes:
>
> >With there secret houses, bizarre dress sense and insane
ryhmingchanting,
> >Bombadilists have revealed themselves to be dangerous
pagans against the ONE
> >TRUE ERU
>
> So far, so good, but...
What do you mean good???
>
> >Bombadil was the effeminate son of Melkor, and those who
follow him are
> >following Melkors road to oblivion.
>
> >RENOUNCE TOM BOMBADIL & ALL HIS WORKS
>
> This is nonsense.
Yes. Renoucing Tom Bombadil is nonsense.
>
> While worshipping Tom Bombadil is indeed dangerous,
because Eru alone
> is God, Tom Bombadil is a true servant of Eru - and has no
part in
> this dangerous cult (doubtless a Morgothic deception).
*Not* worshipping Tom Bombadil is dangerous, because you may
be eaten by the apostle Old Man Willow.
>
> A false claim that Tom Bombadil is a son of Morgoth would
not come
> from a true follower of Eru.
>
> John Savard (jsavard<at>ecn<dot>ab<dot>ca)
> http://www.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/crypto.htm
--------------------------------
Sir Confused-a-lot
Bombadilite Exquisitor
Sir Confused-a-lot
> > New NG Alt religion Bombadil?
>
concerned about the
> increasing number of schisms and heresies, including that
of the Church of
> Bombadil. The population of AFT should know by know that
the only tolerated
> religion is Tolkienology (and it's official cult, the
Church of the
> [censored] Balrog.)
>
> Followers of the reactionary Bombadil will be purged
wherever they are
> found.
You shall never defeat us!!!!!!
Sir Confused-a-lot
> and yellower boots.
> New NG Alt religion Bombadil?
Good idea.
Arkady
Sir Confused-a-lot <sirconfu...@porthleven77.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
message news:857sui$1mt$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Arkady wrote
> >
> > Rowan <goldber...@oldforest.uk> wrote in message
> > news:387644...@oldforest.uk...
> > > New NG Alt religion Bombadil?
> >
> concerned about the
> > increasing number of schisms and heresies, including that
> of the Church of
> > Bombadil. The population of AFT should know by know that
> the only tolerated
> > religion is Tolkienology (and it's official cult, the
> Church of the
> > [censored] Balrog.)
> >
> > Followers of the reactionary Bombadil will be purged
> wherever they are
> > found.
>
> You shall never defeat us!!!!!!
Don't count on it, heretic scum!
David Salo
<reda...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Remember- if you see a Bombadite- denounce him, quick! We might even bump
> you up a few places on the housing list!
dEr KomisssaR:
I thingk i sawd a bOmbite in hte appartMent yestreDayy. hE waS
skulcKing behind the sinK wif his rUning dawgz. He wOked up my sisster by
making fUny noizes in the niteTim. I thiNk he is plOting too undreMine hte
Proletarish Sozialistish Rewoluzie & deFowl the Glorius Martirs of Dezember
by beiNk a fift kollunm in hte Paradis of Werkers' Democrazie. Therfour I
am denownsing him too hte hCeka, hte PUG, hte GOUP, and hte BGK. Plese
helpp us.
yRs,
[illegible scrawl]
Arkady
David Salo <ds...@usa.net> wrote in message
news:dsalo-ya02408000...@news.terracom.net...
I hereby present you with the award fot best ever written representation of
a Russian accent.
Arkady.
the softrat
>Dear Commissar,
>
> I live at 234 1/2A Bogdanov Prospekt, Tamfigrad, and after eleven hours
>of mining coal during the day, I attend night classes in Dialectal TEUNCism
>at Akademia Ojevindskaya. However, electricity to my apartment is
>currently cut off except during the hours of 3 to 4 p.m., weekdays. This
>is making it difficult for me to complete my thesis on "Decadent
>Imperialism: The Moral and Material Squalor of R.A.B.T." Can you be of
>assistance?
>
> Cde. N. Niktov
Moreskaya! Moreskaya, Tovarishch!
the softrat
mailto:sof...@pobox.com
--
I spent a week in Montreal last weekend.
Prophet of the Valar
> The Revolutionary Part of TEUNC (RIP) are increasingly concerned about the
> increasing number of schisms and heresies, including that of the Church of
> Bombadil. The population of AFT should know by know that the only tolerated
> religion is Tolkienology (and it's official cult, the Church of the
> [censored] Balrog.)
Hear, hear!
> Followers of the reactionary Bombadil will be purged wherever they are
> found.
Ring a ding dillo! Tom is NOT Eru!!!
> Remember- if you see a Bombadite- denounce him, quick! We might even bump
> you up a few places on the housing list!
I am afraid that I must denounce Sir Confused-a-lot, which is a shame
since he has far and away the coolest name on this NG. I'll miss him!
-- PotV
David Salo
Alan
hits
the cobblestone foot paths and a yellow putrid fog, a very reek of Mordor,
hangs
over the city.While the torturers wend their merry way to work a small group
of
dissidents post the following
Whereof it has become known to us that a certain group of misguided and
deluded
individuals have attempted to impose the Cult of the [censored] Balrog on
the
population at large, and in particular the citizens of alt.fan.tolkien
We do here by declare that all worshippers of the works of ERU are welcome
herein. that all manner of debates may florish, that flames may sprout and
be
extinguished, that the learned shall enlighten and not indulge in foolish
discourse.
God Save the Tsar
Alexei
The Emperor and Autocrat of all the Russias, the Tsar of Moscow, Kiev,
Vladimir, Novgorod, Kazan, Astrakhan, of Poland, of Siberia, of Tauric
Chersonese, of Georgia, the Sovereign of Pskov and the Grand Duke of
Smolensk, of Lithuania, Volhynia, Podolia and Findland, Prince of Estonia,
Livonia, Courland and Semigalia, Samogotia, Bialostock, Karelia, Tver,
Yougouria, Perm, Viatka, Bulgaria, and other countries; the Sovereign and
the Grand Duke of of Lower Novgorod lands, of Tchernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk,
Rostov, Yaroslav, Belozero, Oudoria, Obdoria, Condia, Vitebsk, Mstislav and
the Lord of all the countries of the North; and the Sovereign of the
countries of Iveria, Cartalinia, Kabardinia and the provinces of Armenia;
the Sovereign of the Circassian Princes and the Mountain Princes, the
Sovereign of Turkestan, Heir of Norway, Duke of Schleswig Holstein, of
Storman, of the Ditmars, and of Oldenburg, etc.
--
"Prophet of the Valar" <jsol...@erols.com> wrote in message
news:38781375...@erols.com...
Arkady
Anti-TEUNCist scum! Spreading lies about power sources! Saboteur!
Reactionary!
Arkady
Alan <Jhe...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:ccXd4.3416$oF2....@ozemail.com.au...
> In the dark and gloomy morning of a tired day in tamfigrad, where the rain
> hits the cobblestone foot paths and a yellow putrid fog, a very reek of
Mordor,
> hangs over the city.While the torturers wend their merry way to work a
small group
> of dissidents post the following
>
> Whereof it has become known to us that a certain group of misguided and
> deluded individuals have attempted to impose the Cult of the [censored]
Balrog on
> the population at large, and in particular the citizens of alt.fan.tolkien
>
> We do here by declare that all worshippers of the works of ERU are welcome
> herein. that all manner of debates may florish, that flames may sprout and
> be extinguished, that the learned shall enlighten and not indulge in
foolish
> discourse.
>
> God Save the Tsar
The Tsar is dead. Tamfsky ate him!
> Alexei
>
> The Emperor and Autocrat of all the Russias, the Tsar of Moscow, Kiev,
> Vladimir, Novgorod, Kazan, Astrakhan, of Poland, of Siberia, of Tauric
> Chersonese, of Georgia, the Sovereign of Pskov and the Grand Duke of
> Smolensk, of Lithuania, Volhynia, Podolia and Findland, Prince of
Estonia,
> Livonia, Courland and Semigalia, Samogotia, Bialostock, Karelia, Tver,
> Yougouria, Perm, Viatka, Bulgaria, and other countries; the Sovereign and
> the Grand Duke of of Lower Novgorod lands, of Tchernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk,
> Rostov, Yaroslav, Belozero, Oudoria, Obdoria, Condia, Vitebsk, Mstislav
and
> the Lord of all the countries of the North; and the Sovereign of the
> countries of Iveria, Cartalinia, Kabardinia and the provinces of Armenia;
> the Sovereign of the Circassian Princes and the Mountain Princes, the
> Sovereign of Turkestan, Heir of Norway, Duke of Schleswig Holstein, of
> Storman, of the Ditmars, and of Oldenburg, etc.
Wow! Are those the Tsar's official titles?
Arky.
Öjevind Lång
>In the dark and gloomy morning of a tired day in tamfigrad, [snip]
>God Save the Tsar
>
>
>Alexei
The mad running dog of imperialism and the international plutocratic
exploiters of the working proletariat, Alexei, self-styled "Tsar" and
foremost well-poisoner and jackboot of the reactionary monopolist and
fascistoid hyenas, is hereby condemned to death. Through the mercy of the
Tolkiburo, his sentence is commuted to lifetime in a cell where a debate
about Balrog Wings will take place within his heairng eternally.
Ojevindsky
People's Commissar for Nationality Questions
Sir Confused-a-lot
>
> > The Revolutionary Part of TEUNC (RIP) are increasingly
concerned about the
> > increasing number of schisms and heresies, including
that of the Church of
> > Bombadil. The population of AFT should know by know that
the only tolerated
> > religion is Tolkienology (and it's official cult, the
Church of the
> > [censored] Balrog.)
>
> Hear, hear!
Booooooooo!!!
>
> > Followers of the reactionary Bombadil will be purged
wherever they are
> > found.
>
> Ring a ding dillo! Tom is NOT Eru!!!
Fine then, Eru is Tom!
>
> > Remember- if you see a Bombadite- denounce him, quick!
We might even bump
> > you up a few places on the housing list!
>
> I am afraid that I must denounce Sir Confused-a-lot, which
is a shame
> since he has far and away the coolest name on this NG.
I'll miss him!
You'll never keep us down!!! NEVER!!!!!!
<Sir C. screams as he is dragged away by a group of Arky's
secret police.>
>
> -- PotV
Michael O'Neill
<snip>
> Remember- if you see a Bombadite- denounce him, quick! We might even
> bump you up a few places on the housing list!
Ah. A *true* socialist.
> Message ends.
M.
William H. Hsu
>> > Remember- if you see a Bombadite- denounce him, quick!
>We might even bump
>> > you up a few places on the housing list!
>>
>> I am afraid that I must denounce Sir Confused-a-lot, which
>is a shame
>> since he has far and away the coolest name on this NG.
>I'll miss him!
>You'll never keep us down!!! NEVER!!!!!!
><Sir C. screams as he is dragged away by a group of Arky's
>secret police.>
Sir C. is hauled into a vast interrogation chamber where a sound
that resembles "DOOM, DOOM, DOOM" reverberates ceaselessly. On the wall is
inscribed a sign in Cirth:
LENIENCY FOR THOSE WHO CONFESS
SEVERITY FOR THOSE WHO RESIST
-Bill
>>
>> -- PotV
David Salo
<reda...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > The Emperor and Autocrat of all the Russias, the Tsar of Moscow, Kiev,
> > Vladimir, Novgorod, Kazan, Astrakhan, of Poland, of Siberia, of Tauric
> > Chersonese, of Georgia, the Sovereign of Pskov and the Grand Duke of
> > Smolensk, of Lithuania, Volhynia, Podolia and Findland
Er, Finland
, Prince of
> Estonia,
> > Livonia, Courland
aka Kurland
and Semigalia,
Semigallia
Samogotia, Bialostock, Karelia, Tver,
Samogitia, Bialystok
> > Yougouria, Perm, Viatka, Bulgaria, and other countries; the Sovereign and
> > the Grand Duke of of Lower Novgorod lands,
Nizhnii Novgorod, I guess
of Tchernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk,
> > Rostov, Yaroslav, Belozero, Oudoria, Obdoria, Condia, Vitebsk, Mstislav
> and
> > the Lord of all the countries of the North; and the Sovereign of the
> > countries of Iveria, Cartalinia, Kabardinia and the provinces of Armenia;
> > the Sovereign of the Circassian Princes and the Mountain Princes, the
> > Sovereign of Turkestan, Heir of Norway, Duke of Schleswig Holstein,
Schleswig-Holstein OR Slesvig-Holsten
of
> > Storman, of the Ditmars,
Stormarn, Ditmarsken (not sure of the German form: Ditmarsch?)
and of Oldenburg, etc.
>
> Wow! Are those the Tsar's official titles?
I suspect there are several other misspellings that I wouldn't
recognize, particularly in the Caucasian titles.
Mia Kalogjera
> I suspect there are several other misspellings that I wouldn't
> recognize, particularly in the Caucasian titles.
Nothing either of you two wrote is spelled properly if it isn't in Cyrillic! :P
Raven
nyhedsmeddelelse:532e4.6075$lN.1...@nnrp3.clara.net...
> > God Save the Tsar
> The Tsar is dead. Tamfsky ate him!
And then spat the corpse out, since he wasn't made of either vegetables
or CHOKLIT, I assume.
> > The Emperor and Autocrat of all the Russias, the Tsar of Moscow, Kiev,
> > Vladimir, Novgorod, Kazan, Astrakhan, of Poland, of Siberia, of Tauric
> > Chersonese, of Georgia, the Sovereign of Pskov and the Grand Duke of
> > Smolensk, of Lithuania, Volhynia, Podolia and Findland, Prince of
> > Estonia, Livonia, Courland and Semigalia, Samogotia, Bialostock,
> > Karelia, Tver, Yougouria, Perm, Viatka, Bulgaria, and other
> > countries; the Sovereign and the Grand Duke of of Lower Novgorod
> > lands, of Tchernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov, Yaroslav, Belozero,
> > Oudoria, Obdoria, Condia, Vitebsk, Mstislav and
> > the Lord of all the countries of the North; and the Sovereign of the
> > countries of Iveria, Cartalinia, Kabardinia and the provinces of
> > Armenia; the Sovereign of the Circassian Princes and the Mountain
> > Princes, the Sovereign of Turkestan, Heir of Norway, Duke of
> > Schleswig Holstein, of Storman, of the Ditmars, and of Oldenburg, etc.
> Wow! Are those the Tsar's official titles?
I can spot one which is *not*. Faenetemeg ikke! Hu!
Ravn.
Raven
nyhedsmeddelelse:387974...@theonering.net...
> Nothing either of you two wrote is spelled properly if it isn't in
> Cyrillic! :P
And in Russian. But then most of us wouldn't understand jack shit. >;-}
Gavran.
Thomas J. Otterson
wrote:
>"Sir Confused-a-lot" <sirconfu...@porthleven77.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
>
>
>>> > Remember- if you see a Bombadite- denounce him, quick!
>>We might even bump
>>> > you up a few places on the housing list!
>>>
>>> I am afraid that I must denounce Sir Confused-a-lot, which
>>is a shame
>>> since he has far and away the coolest name on this NG.
>>I'll miss him!
>
>>You'll never keep us down!!! NEVER!!!!!!
>><Sir C. screams as he is dragged away by a group of Arky's
>>secret police.>
>
> Sir C. is hauled into a vast interrogation chamber where a sound
>that resembles "DOOM, DOOM, DOOM" reverberates ceaselessly. On the wall is
>inscribed a sign in Cirth:
>
> LENIENCY FOR THOSE WHO CONFESS
> SEVERITY FOR THOSE WHO RESIST
>
And on the opposite wall is a portrait of Arkady bearing the flag of
the People's Republic of Khazad-dūm in a glorious battle, bal...er,
dragons flying through the sky behind him, his boot planted firmly
across the throat of a fallen enemy wearing a blue coat and yellow
boots.
David Salo
Dear Commissar,
Thou art the son of ten thousand prostitutes. When news of thy
existence was revealed at creation, the angels were downcast and the jinn
blazed with anger. On the day of thy birth, the sun hid himself for shame
and the moon lost her light for sorrow. It is a disgrace to the earth that
thou walkest upon it; it is a dishonor to the blue sky that thou standest
uncrushed beneath it.
Thou didst imbibe poison with thy mother's milk, and now it runneth in
thy veins. Thy breath is as fetid as the armpit odor of a million camels.
Thy face resembleth a pustule raised by the mosquito of the Nile upon the
buttock of a spotted hyaena. Thou art bald like the vulture and mangy like
the jackal. Thou art broken-toothed like the crocodile and fat like the
hippopotamus. Savage art thou as the man-eating tiger, but in thy heart
craven as the timid langur. Thou art dishonest as the fox, but thy brain
is puny as the flea's.
Today thou believest that thou has defeated us. Even so doth God raise
up the wicked only to cast them down again. So thought the wicked Tsars,
who did drive us forth from the plains. But we remained in the hills and
did harry their cossacks with blood and with fire. And it came to pass
that God did punish with blood the Tsar for his great wickedness.
And now thou hast arisen in his stead, O Commissar! Dost thou think
that thou art mightier than God? Surely thou dost blaspheme in thy fury,
but fear and bitterness shall haunt thee all the days of thy life. Know
that an evil fate is thine, and that men shall speak ill of you when thou
art gone with the worms to thy grave, and a yet eviller fate shall be thine
when thou dost rise again upon the Day of Wrath.
For a day or a year thou mayest triumph against us. But we shall live
and we shall hate thee, and our hate we shall teach to our sons and to the
sons of our sons, until our hatred has grown great as a mountain and doth
overshadow thy Empire, O Commissar. And there shall come a day, O
Commissar, when thy name shall be accursed, and thy wicked, God-denying
ideology shall be trodden in the dust. Then shall our grandchildren arise
against your grandchildren, and then shall there be blood and sorrow and
vengeance wreaked upon thee and upon thy nation! Know that it shall be so,
O Commissar, and tremble.
* MWA HA HA HA HA HA HA! *
God is great.
Kaikobat Suleimonov
(nom de guerre)
David Salo
<jonlenn...@get2net.dk> wrote:
, Heir of Norway, Duke of
> > > Schleswig Holstein, of Storman, of the Ditmars, and of Oldenburg, etc.
>
> > Wow! Are those the Tsar's official titles?
> I can spot one which is *not*. Faenetemeg ikke! Hu!
I think that the "arving til Norge" title got inherited along with the
other Danish titles of the Romanovs; they were Oldenburgs (cousins of the
Danish kings) through the male line, the last common male-line male
ancestor being Frederick I of Denmark. This also makes them distant
cousins in the male line (they are of course much closer through other
lines) of the Kings of Greece and their descendants, including HRH Prince
Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, HRH Prince Charles, and HRH Prince William, all
of whom are Oldenburgs.
DS
Alan
following message.
"Raven" <jonlenn...@get2net.dk> wrote in message
news:ox9e4.776$bj4....@news.get2net.dk...
> Arkady <reda...@hotmail.com> skrev i en
> nyhedsmeddelelse:532e4.6075$lN.1...@nnrp3.clara.net...
>
> > > God Save the Tsar
>
> > The Tsar is dead. Tamfsky ate him!
The Tsar lies with ERU until such time as ERU releases him (or her) to wage
war at
the end of time when Morgoth and TEUNC allied together seek to conquer Arda
and the everlasting lands.
And he shall bring chocolate to tempt and distract TEUNC and soft furry toys
for them
to play with and barrels of well brewed ale thuswise they shall see the
error of their ways
and be restored to the grace of ERU and the Valar.
Alan
And he was succeeded by his son Favila, who in a moment of levity was killed
by a bear.
Chronicle of Alfonso III
> And then spat the corpse out, since he wasn't made of either vegetables
> or CHOKLIT, I assume.
>
> > > The Emperor and Autocrat of all the Russias, the Tsar of Moscow, Kiev,
> > > Vladimir, Novgorod, Kazan, Astrakhan, of Poland, of Siberia, of Tauric
> > > Chersonese, of Georgia, the Sovereign of Pskov and the Grand Duke of
> > > Smolensk, of Lithuania, Volhynia, Podolia and Findland, Prince of
> > > Estonia, Livonia, Courland and Semigalia, Samogotia, Bialostock,
> > > Karelia, Tver, Yougouria, Perm, Viatka, Bulgaria, and other
> > > countries; the Sovereign and the Grand Duke of of Lower Novgorod
> > > lands, of Tchernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov, Yaroslav, Belozero,
> > > Oudoria, Obdoria, Condia, Vitebsk, Mstislav and
> > > the Lord of all the countries of the North; and the Sovereign of the
> > > countries of Iveria, Cartalinia, Kabardinia and the provinces of
> > > Armenia; the Sovereign of the Circassian Princes and the Mountain
> > > Princes, the Sovereign of Turkestan, Heir of Norway, Duke of
> > > Schleswig Holstein, of Storman, of the Ditmars, and of Oldenburg, etc.
>
> > Wow! Are those the Tsar's official titles?
I found these on a Romanov website, i think they left off Bokhara and
Samarkand.
> I can spot one which is *not*. Faenetemeg ikke! Hu!
> Ravn.
Alan Graham
David Salo wrote in message ...
>> > > Schleswig Holstein, of Storman, of the Ditmars, and of Oldenburg,
etc.
>>
>> > Wow! Are those the Tsar's official titles?
>
>other Danish titles of the Romanovs; they were Oldenburgs (cousins of the
>Danish kings) through the male line, the last common male-line male
>ancestor being Frederick I of Denmark. This also makes them distant
>cousins in the male line (they are of course much closer through other
>lines) of the Kings of Greece and their descendants, including HRH Prince
>Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, HRH Prince Charles, and HRH Prince William, all
>of whom are Oldenburgs.
>
Worked one summer at a legal practice, where for reasons of storage they
were throwing out old papers (like really, really old). It was fun to see
all the titles that the royal family of britain used to still cling to long
after the facts had passed them by - king of France, duke of this, protector
of that.
Simple fact is, you just added titles to stake claims in the vain hope that
one day they'll be short the odd royal and you can take over.
Al
Sir Confused-a-lot
Thomas J. Otterson wrote
> On 9 Jan 2000 19:50:10 GMT, bh...@ringil.ncsa.uiuc.edu
(William H. Hsu)
> wrote:
>
> >"Sir Confused-a-lot"
<sirconfu...@porthleven77.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
<snip>
> >><Sir C. screams as he is dragged away by a group of
Arky's
> >>secret police.>
> >
> > Sir C. is hauled into a vast interrogation chamber where
a sound
> >that resembles "DOOM, DOOM, DOOM" reverberates
ceaselessly. On the wall is
> >inscribed a sign in Cirth:
> >
> > LENIENCY FOR THOSE WHO CONFESS
> > SEVERITY FOR THOSE WHO RESIST
'Leiniency for those who confess'? All right then, I am a
Bombadilite.
BOMBADIL IS ERU!!!
> >
> And on the opposite wall is a portrait of Arkady bearing
the flag of
> the People's Republic of Khazad-dūm in a glorious battle,
bal...er,
Balrogs! Say it, Balrogs! Are you afraid of a bit of
torture?
<Sir C. laughs histerically until he remembers that he is
proboaly in for a 'bit of torture'.>
> dragons flying through the sky behind him, his boot
planted firmly
> across the throat of a fallen enemy wearing a blue coat
and yellow
> boots.
How could you show such a thing??? HERETICS!!!!!
<Sir C. tries to bite the ear of the nearest guard, but
unfortunately the guard is a corrupted elf, and he only
succeeds in cutting his mouth on the point.>
LARS SCHERMER
was the first to bee and he will be the last to go. like the trees and the
earth Bombadil is part of "the song" he is son of no-one
less it be Iluvitar
William H. Hsu wrote<855rh7$6m$1...@cnn.ksu.ksu.edu>...
>Mia Kalogjera <a...@theonering.net> writes:
>
>>John Savard wrote:
>>
>>> A false claim that Tom Bombadil is a son of Morgoth would not come
>>> from a true follower of Eru.
>
>>Unless he/she is one of Eru's Witnesses ;)
>
> That's /Iluvatar's/ Witnesses, Mia... gotta be very careful with those
>attributions!
>
>-Bill
>
>>--
>>http://TheOneRing.net - Lord of the Rings Movie news
>>and rumours: forged by and for FANS of J.R.R.Tolkien
>
>>Die Andere Seite: http://www.angelfire.com/ri/jereeza
>>e-mail: mia(at)theonering.net or jereeza(at)yahoo.com
>
Arkady
David Salo <ds...@usa.net> wrote in message
news:dsalo-ya02408000...@news.terracom.net...
>
> Dear Commissar,
<snip>
Imperialist propaganda!
Arky, General Secretary of the TEUNCaviks.
Arkady
Thomas J. Otterson <thomas....@mindspringNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:38792d11....@news.mindspring.com...
> On 9 Jan 2000 19:50:10 GMT, bh...@ringil.ncsa.uiuc.edu (William H. Hsu)
> wrote:
>
> >"Sir Confused-a-lot" <sirconfu...@porthleven77.freeserve.co.uk>
writes:
> >
> >
> >>We might even bump
> >>> > you up a few places on the housing list!
> >>>
> >>> I am afraid that I must denounce Sir Confused-a-lot, which
> >>is a shame
> >>> since he has far and away the coolest name on this NG.
> >>I'll miss him!
> >
> >>You'll never keep us down!!! NEVER!!!!!!
> >>secret police.>
> >
> > Sir C. is hauled into a vast interrogation chamber where a sound
> >that resembles "DOOM, DOOM, DOOM" reverberates ceaselessly. On the wall
is
> >inscribed a sign in Cirth:
> >
> > LENIENCY FOR THOSE WHO CONFESS
> > SEVERITY FOR THOSE WHO RESIST
> >
> the People's Republic of Khazad-dūm in a glorious battle, bal...er,
> across the throat of a fallen enemy wearing a blue coat and yellow
> boots.
Bwoohahahahhah!
I am going to start compiling this stuff and build a website for it. Keep it
coming comrades!
Arkady
> > > Wow! Are those the Tsar's official titles?
>
> Samarkand.
A Romanov website?
Öjevind Lång
>Dear Commissar,
>
> Thou art the son of ten thousand prostitutes. When news of [snip]
>ideology shall be trodden in the dust. Then shall our grandchildren arise
>against your grandchildren, and then shall there be blood and sorrow and
>vengeance wreaked upon thee and upon thy nation! Know that it shall be so,
>O Commissar, and tremble.
>
> * MWA HA HA HA HA HA HA! *
>
> God is great.
>
> Kaikobat Suleimonov
> (nom de guerre)
Dear lackey of the feudalistic kulaks and befrocked opium peddlars who would
poison the politically conscious proletariat,
The day is drawing near when you, the agent of medieval forces who resist
the inexorable tide of historical materialism, will be hung in the
intestines of the last capitalist. Little do you understand the dialectics
that doom your attempts to revive an ideological superstructure that has
long lost all ability to generate new forms of production and now merely
can, for a while, resist the change that will be brought about by the
progressive intelligentsia and the organized cadres of the working-classes.
Moreover, your secret allegicance to the treacherous Trotskyite jackal, Tom
Bombadil, has been unmasked at the 225th party congress and is now there to
see for all. The struggle for freedom by the workers and peasants of the
world continues and will sweep you away together with your contemptible,
tophatted cohorts and the effete bourgeois "liberal" hypocrites who use you
as a stalking-horse for their secret agenda. Before your execution, you will
be forced to grovel in the dust before an image of our leader, (yours truly)
to show that even YOU will have conceded victory to the enlighetened forces
that will sweep away all superstition and religious idolatry.
Ojevindsky
Commissar for Nationalities
David Salo
Dear Commissar,
My apartment is at 234 1/2B Bogdanov Prospekt, Tamfigrad. Yesterday
seven comrades entered the neighboring apartment at midnight and dragged
out my neighbor kicking and screaming. I believe he was shouting "Long
live the Eternally Forward-Moving Revolutionary Party of the TEUNCist
Workers!" and "Ultimate Supremacy belongs to TEUNCism-Bogdanovism!"
In connection with this incident, which never happened, I have two
questions:
1) While I appreciate the need to purge our State of Reactionary
Bombadist Scum, is it possible that you could do it a little more quietly
or at least during the daytime hours?
2) Could my next neighbor be someone a bit less intellectual?
Intellectuals frighten me.
Yours,
Cde. Olga Olyosova
Mia Kalogjera
>
> Bombadil son of Morgoth, I doubt it. Bombadil is the embodyment of nature he
> was the first to bee
Heureka! Bombadil is the BROTHER OF MAJA THE BUMBLEBEE!
David Salo
<a...@kuhl-graham.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Worked one summer at a legal practice, where for reasons of storage they
> were throwing out old papers (like really, really old).
What a shame! Did you get to keep any of them?
>It was fun to see
> all the titles that the royal family of britain used to still cling to long
> after the facts had passed them by - king of France, duke of this, protector
> of that.
"King of France" was adopted by Edward III in 1340, when he started to
go to war against the French; even then it was basically a legal
technicality, allowing him to obfuscate the fact that he was warring
against his liege lord (the King of France), which would otherwise have
given the French king the legal right to confiscate Edward's fiefs in
Aquitaine (it was of more practical assistance to Edward's Flemish allies,
for whom a charge of illegal defiance of their overlord might have actually
mattered). But the war dragged on, and on, despite occasional lulls that
looked like peace; and though Edward briefly dropped the French title
(which was asserted through a genealogical claim almost as tortuous as
Aragorn's claim to Gondor) between 1360 and 1369, a subsequent renewal of
hostilities raised the claim again. Under Richard II, it looked like the
claim might be dropped again; but Richard was thrown off the English throne
before this could happen, and the new House of Lancaster was
enthusiastically anti-French, none more so than Henry V, who was the first
English king to put some substance behind the title "King of France". But
he died shortly after his military victories, to be succeeded by the
infantile and imbecile Henry VI, whose uncles kept the English-occupied
French territories intact long enough for Joan of Arc to grow up and take
them back. By 1453, the English had been completely thrown out of France,
except for a small section on the northeast coast. But by that time, the
title (and the heraldic position of the French lilies) were so entrenched
in the English consciousness that no ruler worth his or her chrism could
possibly give them up. They were finally abandoned in 1801, for two
reasons: one, the English were fighting Napoleonic France, and supporting
the pretender Louis XVIII, to whom the English titles were somewhat
embarrassing; two, the English had just united their realm with Ireland,
and somebody decided to take advantage of the resulting confusion of titles
to drop the French claim.
You should see the King of Spain's titulary if you think the Tsars' is
pretentious!
David Salo
Raven
nyhedsmeddelelse:dsalo-ya02408000...@news.terracom.net...
> I think that the "arving til Norge" title got inherited along with the
> other Danish titles of the Romanovs; they were Oldenburgs (cousins of the
> Danish kings) through the male line, the last common male-line male
> ancestor being Frederick I of Denmark. This also makes them distant
> cousins in the male line (they are of course much closer through other
> lines) of the Kings of Greece and their descendants, including HRH Prince
> Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, HRH Prince Charles, and HRH Prince William, all
> of whom are Oldenburgs.
Yeah, OK, but I'd like to see them claim the right! >;-} What titles
will they next dream that they have? Protector of Anfalas, Tyrant of Umbar?
Bwahaha and all that. Some fresh inspiration for Arkady's takeover schemes?
>:-}
Voron.
Mia Kalogjera
> "King of France" was adopted by Edward III in 1340, when he started to
<snip ahoy!>
Thank you for this! I'm searching the Web for sites on French monarchy in the 1300's
and the 1400's - your post with interesting details came like a gift from heaven :)
Thomas Otterson
wrote:
Yeah, Arkady, check out www.intlromanovsociety.org, the homepage of
the International Romanov Society. Looks like the Party's job was
left unfinished, huh?
Thomas
William H. Hsu
>Bwoohahahahhah!
>I am going to start compiling this stuff and build a website for it. Keep it
>coming comrades!
Y'know, I only realized today that "The People's Republic of
Khazad-Dum" could be abbreviated with the acronym P.R.K.D.
-Bill
Arkady
>
> My apartment is at 234 1/2B Bogdanov Prospekt, Tamfigrad. Yesterday
> seven comrades entered the neighboring apartment at midnight and dragged
> out my neighbor kicking and screaming. I believe he was shouting "Long
> live the Eternally Forward-Moving Revolutionary Party of the TEUNCist
> Workers!" and "Ultimate Supremacy belongs to TEUNCism-Bogdanovism!"
> In connection with this incident, which never happened,
Bwooohahahahahahah!
I have two
> questions:
>
> 1) While I appreciate the need to purge our State of Reactionary
> Bombadist Scum, is it possible that you could do it a little more quietly
> or at least during the daytime hours?
> 2) Could my next neighbor be someone a bit less intellectual?
> Intellectuals frighten me.
>
> Yours,
> Cde. Olga Olyosova
(still laughing)
Bravo!
Arky.
Arkady
Öjevind Lång <ojevin...@swipnet.se> wrote in message
news:Aqre4.7633$yn3....@nntpserver.swip.net...
Commisar Ojevindsky, you are hereby awarded the order of Bogdanov, for good
services to the everlasting struggle towards of TEUNCavism.
Long live the Revolution!
Arkady Bogdanov, General Secretary, TEUNCaviks (Revolutionary party of
TEUNC)
Alan
> > > > Wow! Are those the Tsar's official titles?
> >
> > I found these on a Romanov website, i think they left off Bokhara and
> > Samarkand.
>
> A Romanov website?
The Imperial Family of Russia Comrade. There are a number of websites out
their who believe that Tsar Nicholas II was the best thing since sliced
bread
God Save the Tsar and death to the Leftist Teuncist! TEUNCISM in one
Country !!!
Alan
Thomas Otterson
>
>The Imperial Family of Russia Comrade. There are a number of websites out
>their who believe that Tsar Nicholas II was the best thing since sliced
>bread
>
I'd bet the whole family wore yellow boots...
Thomas
Laurie Forbes
>Arkady <reda...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Z0Be4.3150$UL1....@nnrp4.clara.net...
>
>> Öjevind Lång <ojevin...@swipnet.se> wrote in message
> news:Aqre4.7633$yn3....@nntpserver.swip.net...
>> > David Salo hath written:
> > >Dear Commissar,
[Snipped letter -- next time say how you REALLY feel, David; don't mince
words. I couldn't tell which side you were on.]
> > Dear lackey of the feudalistic kulaks and befrocked opium peddlars who
> > would poison the politically conscious proletariat,
[Snipski]
>> Before your execution, you will be forced to grovel in the dust before an
>> image of our leader, (yours truly)
And just WHO elected (ha, ha) you "leader"???
> > Ojevindsky
(Oh, dearisch.)
> Commisar Ojevindsky, you are hereby awarded the order of Bogdanov, for
good
> services to the everlasting struggle towards of TEUNCavism.
OK, Smartypantskovich - if the struggle is going to last forever, and the
goal apparently never achieved, just how do you intend to keep people
motivated? I have a few suggestions, but they might seem a bit... ummm...
OK, it SOUNDS LIKE "capslock".
--
Laurie "Go DJIA!" Forbes
Arkady
William H. Hsu <bh...@ringil.ncsa.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:85e9i0$glf$1...@cnn.ksu.ksu.edu...
> "Arkady" <reda...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> >Bwoohahahahhah!
>
> >I am going to start compiling this stuff and build a website for it. Keep
it
> >coming comrades!
>
> Y'know, I only realized today that "The People's Republic of
> Khazad-Dum" could be abbreviated with the acronym P.R.K.D.
Sorry to be ignorant, but I don't geddit.
Arkady
Thomas Otterson <thomas....@mindspringNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:387a5fcd...@news.internal.mindspring.com...
>
> >
> >> > > Wow! Are those the Tsar's official titles?
> >>
> >> I found these on a Romanov website, i think they left off Bokhara and
> >> Samarkand.
> >
> >A Romanov website?
> >
>
> the International Romanov Society. Looks like the Party's job was
> left unfinished, huh?
Muttermutter.
Arkady
Alan <Jhe...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:387AF3D3...@bigpond.com...
> Arkady wrote:
>
> > > > > Wow! Are those the Tsar's official titles?
> > >
> > > I found these on a Romanov website, i think they left off Bokhara and
> > > Samarkand.
> >
> > A Romanov website?
>
Yes I know that!
> There are a number of websites out
> their who believe that Tsar Nicholas II was the best thing since sliced
> bread
Oh for muck's sake.
> God Save the Tsar and death to the Leftist Teuncist! TEUNCISM in one
> Country !!!
Interesting mixture of beliefs you got there...
Öjevind Lång
>>Arkady wrote in message...
>>
>>> Öjevind Lång wrote in message...
>>> > David Salo hath written:
>> > >Dear Commissar,
>
> [Snipped letter -- next time say how you REALLY feel, David; don't mince
>words. I couldn't tell which side you were on.]
Prevarication is typical for those mealy-mouthed clerics.
>> > Dear lackey of the feudalistic kulaks and befrocked opium peddlars who
>> > would poison the politically conscious proletariat,
>
>[Snipski]
>
>>> Before your execution, you will be forced to grovel in the dust before
an
>>> image of our leader, (yours truly)
>
>And just WHO elected (ha, ha) you "leader"???
The class-conscious proletariat and the progressive elements in the middle
classes. That is to say, my pals and everybody who, with a revolver against
their heads, suddenly realized the truth. As Mao once said: "Political power
grows out of the barrel of a gun".
>> > Ojevindsky
>
>(Oh, dearisch.)
Correction! "Dearishtch". (Ha! I *love* spelling flames!)
>> Commissar Ojevindsky, you are hereby awarded the order of Bogdanov, for
>good
>> services to the everlasting struggle towards of TEUNCavism.
>
>OK, Smartypantskovich - if the struggle is going to last forever, and the
>goal apparently never achieved, just how do you intend to keep people
>motivated? I have a few suggestions, but they might seem a bit... ummm...
>OK, it SOUNDS LIKE "capslock".
The strategy of the struggling pioneers of the glorious future freedom from
want, exploitation and bothersome thought activities is the secret of the
Tolkibureau and in no way yours for the asking, you member of the Balrog
Okhrana.
Ojevindsky
Commissar for Nationalities
Mia Kalogjera
>
> William H. Hsu <bh...@ringil.ncsa.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
> news:85e9i0$glf$1...@cnn.ksu.ksu.edu..
> >
> > >Bwoohahahahhah!
> >
> > >I am going to start compiling this stuff and build a website for it. Keep
> it
> > >coming comrades!
> >
> > Y'know, I only realized today that "The People's Republic of
> > Khazad-Dum" could be abbreviated with the acronym P.R.K.D.
>
> Sorry to be ignorant, but I don't geddit.
Say R K D
David Salo
Howdy Commissar,
Me an' my fella cowpoke Tex here were just pokin' along through this
here Wild East of yer grand ol' A F of T, jes' lookin' at the scenery like,
when I says to Tex, "Tarnation, Tex, this here looks like oil country!"
So we got down off our hosses (which we'd relieved some of yer Injun
yak-herders of) an' took a look at the ground, an' damn if it was stinkin'
soakin' with the black stuff!
So I sez to Tex, sez I, "Podner, you an' me could make our fortunes
here." And he sez to me (that varmint, Tex!), "Dude, yer talkin'
bull-doogies. This here's Red country -- Commieland -- Bolshytown! How'n
hell you think they're gonna let you dig fer oil here an' keep the loot?"
So I sez to Tex, "Tex, some dudes is Reds and some is Blues, but we're
all Men on this God's black earth, 'ceptin' the dames, of course. And the
one thing all Men got in common is, they all love dough. So let's just
hoof it over to one o' them Commissars, and let's work out a deal so we can
split our winnin's."
An' Tex (that rascally critter!) sez to me, he sez "Dude, yer off yer
friggin' gourd. You don' know nuthin' 'bout these Rooskies. They don't
care 'bout nuthin' but power an' parades. They ain't gonna let you get one
greazy finger on that there black gold. So let's drop the notion an' clear
off back to the good ol' R.A.B.T."
So I sez to Tex, "You do what you like, but I ain't lettin' this chance
of a lifetime go."
And he sez to me, that ornery cuss, "You ain't doin' business with no
Commies!"
So I shot him dead.
So whaddaya say, you an' me, podner -- we can do business?
Horace Q. "Red" Wilson,
Best Dang Cow-poke, Oil-Dude, Gun-Toter, Card-Sharp, and All-Round Buckaroo
You Ever Did See East of the Urals
Arkady
Mia Kalogjera <a...@theonering.net> wrote in message
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> Arkady wrote:
> >
> > William H. Hsu <bh...@ringil.ncsa.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
> > news:85e9i0$glf$1...@cnn.ksu.ksu.edu..
> > > "Arkady" <reda...@hotmail.com> writes:
> > >
> > > >Bwoohahahahhah!
> > >
> > > >I am going to start compiling this stuff and build a website for it.
Keep
> > it
> > > >coming comrades!
> > >
> > > Y'know, I only realized today that "The People's Republic of
> > > Khazad-Dum" could be abbreviated with the acronym P.R.K.D.
> >
> > Sorry to be ignorant, but I don't geddit.
>
> Say R K D
Ah, I see. I had RKD as a nick at Sunday's chat.
Raven
nyhedsmeddelelse:poLe4.3330$UL1....@nnrp4.clara.net...
> > Yeah, Arkady, check out www.intlromanovsociety.org, the homepage of
> > the International Romanov Society. Looks like the Party's job was
> > left unfinished, huh?
> Muttermutter.
Why are you calling for your mother in German?
Voron.
Raven
nyhedsmeddelelse:CzMe4.8189$yn3....@nntpserver.swip.net...
> >(Oh, dearisch.)
> Correction! "Dearishtch". (Ha! I *love* spelling flames!)
Yes, *I* remember a spelling flame skirmish. You cnurred at me, for some
reason.
Korpen.
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>Howdy Commissar,
>
[snip]
>
> So whaddaya say, you an' me, podner -- we can do business?
>
> Horace Q. "Red" Wilson,
> Best Dang Cow-poke, Oil-Dude, Gun-Toter, Card-Sharp, and All-Round
Buckaroo
> You Ever Did See East of the Urals
Dear capitalist swine and exploiter of the masses,
Objective evaluation of the present stage in the Party's struggle to
liberate the workers of the world from the bane of late capitalist
monopolism forces me to deal with scum like you, but only if you can cough
up real money like Deutsche Mark, U. S. dollars, Swiss francs or British
pounds. Furthermore, in order for the false allure of these manifestations
of decadent bourgeois goods fetishism not to seduce the innocent masses of
our great Mother Teunc, I must ask you to send them to a secret bank account
I have, in my desire to sacrifice myself for the proletariat, opened in
Moria. If we have a deal, I'll send you an extremely secret mail with the
number to my bank account.
Yours on behalf of the struggling proletariat,
Ojevindsky
Commissar for Nationalities and Economics (and the Balrog Cheka)
Arkady
Raven <jonlenn...@get2net.dk> wrote in message
news:ToQe4.858$4L6....@news.get2net.dk...
I failed German.
(Sorry Karim, I tried I really did)
Arkady
>
<snip>
>
> So whaddaya say, you an' me, podner -- we can do business?
(aloud) NO!!!
(whisper) Step into my office sir, please, we have much to discuss...
Öjevind Lång
>David Salo wrote in message:
>>
>> Howdy Commissar,
>>
>
><snip>
>
>>
>> So whaddaya say, you an' me, podner -- we can do business?
>
>(aloud) NO!!!
>
>(whisper) Step into my office sir, please, we have much to discuss...
Hey, Mr Capitalist Swine, sir - I'm cheaper to bribe than Arkady! And I know
some really nice Natashas too.
Ojevindsky
Commissar for Nationalities, Economics and Tourism
Sir Confused-a-lot
> Friends, have you asked Tom Bombadil to be your personal
saviour?
<snip>
Where have you been? I thought I was the only Bombadilite
left! The goverment tried to throw me in prison, you know!
> The Reverand Stevie Ray Vonnegut,
> First Deacon of the Old Forrest Antioch Tabernachel
Redeamer Church of
> Tom Bombadil and Our Lady of the River
Praise be to Tom!
(Dosen't Tom sound like Om? I'm Vorbis.)
-----------------------
Sir Confused-a-lot
Exquisitor of the Old Forrest Antioch Tabernachel Redeamer
Raven
> >> So whaddaya say, you an' me, podner -- we can do business?
> >(aloud) NO!!!
> >(whisper) Step into my office sir, please, we have much to discuss...
> Hey, Mr Capitalist Swine, sir - I'm cheaper to bribe than Arkady! And I
> know some really nice Natashas too.
Kruschev said that when it is time to hang the Capitalist West, a western
businessman would provide the rope. Seems it goes the other way too.
So congrats then, David. Not by wars, but by the time-honoured principle
of divide and rule do you defeat the Teuncsheviks. Sow the seed of division
by dropping bribes --- quiet genius, that.
Hope it's worth it.
Craban.
Raven
> > > Muttermutter.
> > Why are you calling for your mother in German?
> I failed German.
Too many or too few cases? Four in German, five (or seven) in Latin,
eight in Ajacai and eleven in at least one of its sibling languages that I'm
inventing --- how many cases are there in your native Russian? Just
curious.
Voron.
Raven
en nyhedsmeddelelse:85iris$ijg$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Praise be to Tom!
> (Dosen't Tom sound like Om? I'm Vorbis.)
Oh. Is black-on-black mandatory for that career description, or do
modern sunglasses, like on Latin American torturers, suffice?
Ravn.
Mia Kalogjera
> Too many or too few cases? Four in German, five (or seven) in Latin,
> eight in Ajacai and eleven in at least one of its sibling languages that I'm
> inventing --- how many cases are there in your native Russian? Just
> curious.
Seven, I think.
Raven
nyhedsmeddelelse:387E26...@oldforest.eu...
> six cases in Russky :-)
Same as the Latin five plus one more? Locative, Vocative, Instrumental,
other?
Craban.
Rowan
Jereeza
Must be something like this: Nom, Gen, Dat, Acc, Loc, Voc, Ins.
the softrat
<jonlenn...@get2net.dk> wrote:
>Rowan <.goldber...@oldforest.eu> skrev i en
>nyhedsmeddelelse:387E26...@oldforest.eu...
>
>> six cases in Russky :-)
> Same as the Latin five plus one more? Locative, Vocative, Instrumental,
>other?
>
>Craban.
>
Virtually all the languages mentioned in this thread are descendants
of Proto-Indo-European which is reconstructed to have eight cases:
nominative, genitive, dative, accusative, ablative, instrumental,
locative, and vocative. PIE has been extinct at least these past four
thousand years, however all of her daughters have eight or less cases
and the cases mean approximately (but very closely) the same thing.
For example in Classical Greek, there were five cases, the
instrumental and locative were folded into the dative and the ablative
into the genitive. The vocative was vanishing into the nominative.
Ultimately one arrives at a modern language like Persian or English
which have no cases for nouns and adjectives at all, just singular and
(maybe) a plural.
More than you ever wanted to know....
the softrat
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Raven
nyhedsmeddelelse:387ECC...@theonering.net...
> > Too many or too few cases? Four in German, five (or seven) in Latin,
> > eight in Ajacai and eleven in at least one of its sibling languages that
> > I'm inventing --- how many cases are there in your native Russian? Just
> > curious.
> Seven, I think.
And in Cro? Still just curious.
Gavran.
Jereeza
Well, seven! That's why I supposed it might be the same in Russian :)
Rowan
genitive,prepositional,....er.....anybody? its been a while...there are
also "aspects....!"
...er....
Rowan
Is that the same as Crow?
Or Raven?
Öjevind Lång
Vocative = the thing or person is being addressed.
Locative = where something takes place
Winston Curchill claimed that when was a young man at Eton, he got into
trouble with the Latin master for refusing to say "O, mensa!" ("O, table!")
and motivated it by saying that he was not insane and did not speak to
furniture.
Öjevind
Sir Confused-a-lot
Both if possible. B-)
>
> Ravn.
-----------------------
Sir Confused-a-lot
Exquisitor of the Old Forrest Antioch Tabernachel
Redeamer Church ofTom Bombadil and Our
Lady of the River
Raven
nyhedsmeddelelse:387FF4...@theonering.net...
> > > six cases in Russky :-)
> > Same as the Latin five plus one more? Locative, Vocative,
> > Instrumental, other?
> Must be something like this: Nom, Gen, Dat, Acc, Loc, Voc, Ins.
No Ablative then? Latin has Nom, Gen, Dat, Abl, and Acc; plus traces of
Loc and Voc.
My Ajacai, as a comparison, has Nominative and Vocative; Accusative,
Associative Genitive and Possessive Genitive; Dative, Locative and
Instrumental. Some of its neighbouring languages which I am inventing bits
of have two Instrumentals and two Locatives, but no separate class of words
named Verbs. Just in case *you* were curious. :-)
Gavran.
Jereeza
No, that's the same as Croatian.
Raven
nyhedsmeddelelse:dpiv7skukcecl4e2d...@4ax.com...
> Virtually all the languages mentioned in this thread are descendants
> of Proto-Indo-European which is reconstructed to have eight cases:
> nominative, genitive, dative, accusative, ablative, instrumental,
> locative, and vocative. PIE has been extinct at least these past four
> thousand years, however all of her daughters have eight or less cases
> and the cases mean approximately (but very closely) the same thing.
> For example in Classical Greek, there were five cases, the
> instrumental and locative were folded into the dative and the ablative
> into the genitive. The vocative was vanishing into the nominative.
> Ultimately one arrives at a modern language like Persian or English
> which have no cases for nouns and adjectives at all, just singular and
> (maybe) a plural.
Thank you. As mentioned in another post in this thread, the language I'm
inventing has eight cases, the PIE eight minus the Ablative, but with two
Genitives (as I define the cases in Ajacai at any rate). I have seen
mentioned that verbs are a comparatively recent word-class, so I have also
begun exploring (in the hypothetical neighbouring, related languages)
languages with several more cases but no actual verbs. Such as two
Instrumentals (one of being, one of making) and two Locatives (one of being
at, one of coming to), and an Active case (which hypothetically could be the
ancestor to a separate word-class called 'verbs'), and auxiliaries to
pinpoint the meaning (such as 'present at' + Locative of presence).
I may add that I am no philologist by training. Call me a
Sunday-philologist,
if you will. :-)
Do you know if the reconstructed PIE had verbs? Because that passage in
Allen and Greenough's puzzled me a bit. Which languages have or had no
verbs?
> More than you ever wanted to know....
Certainly not. I want to know more.
Havran.