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Hank IsDrunk

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Mar 25, 2002, 3:25:03 PM3/25/02
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Was happy to see LotRs bring home some awards last night.

But...

I like Elijah. I enjoyed his playing of Frodo and have enjoyed other
things he's done. But when it comes to interviews, he's sounds like
yet another actor who'd be best suited to hiring a "show personality"
coach. Meaning, he seems just a bit over confident, and someone who
doesn't really appreciate the story of LotRs the way a lot of us do,
instead is more into what it does for his showbiz career. What I mean
is, I wish he was a bit warmer of a personality.

Then, I listened to him speak with that accent and just began to
cringe. Cringe with embarrassment. Speaking with an
english/australian/new zealand accent was the trend of
yesteryear...several years ago. Madonna was doing it, among others.
He seems like he's *trying* to seem important or sophisticated. Is
this what Hollywood does to kid actors?

What's with the accent? He's born and bred right here in the heart of
the US. At first I thought he was a bit overconfident based on
interviews I had *read*; now, seeing him interviewed in
person...uuugghhhhhh. It's not that I dislike him now, I just wish
he'd be a bit more humble.

And lose the silly, unfitting, pretentious and obvious accent. God I
hate it when actors/characters I like turn out to be disappointing
people in real life.

Jette Goldie

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Mar 25, 2002, 3:52:19 PM3/25/02
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"Hank IsDrunk" <t_the_t...@yahoo.com> wrote

> What's with the accent? He's born and bred right here in the heart of
> the US. At first I thought he was a bit overconfident based on
> interviews I had *read*; now, seeing him interviewed in
> person...uuugghhhhhh. It's not that I dislike him now, I just wish
> he'd be a bit more humble.
>

Sure, and he's just spent a lengthy period of time in
New Zealand, mixing and socialising with Kiwis, Scots
and English, as well as Americans from other parts of
the US. No wonder his accent is confused.


--
Jette
(aka Vinyaduriel)
"Work for Peace and remain fiercely loving" - Jim Byrnes
je...@blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fanfic.html

m

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Mar 25, 2002, 7:21:04 PM3/25/02
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In article <6af83259.02032...@posting.google.com>,
t_the_t...@yahoo.com says...

>
> Then, I listened to him speak with that accent and just began to
> cringe. Cringe with embarrassment. Speaking with an
> english/australian/new zealand accent was the trend of
> yesteryear...several years ago. Madonna was doing it, among others.
> He seems like he's *trying* to seem important or sophisticated. Is
> this what Hollywood does to kid actors?
>
> What's with the accent? He's born and bred right here in the heart of
> the US.

> It's not that I dislike him now, I just wish


> he'd be a bit more humble.
>

Since when has an Australian accent ever been considered posh ???

Anyway, if you had spent the best part of nearly two years out in New Zealand,
surrounded by natives, and Australians, I'm sure that you would also come back
speaking like a Kiwi.

How is the American accent seen as 'humble' anyway. In most countries of the
world the American accent is seen as being from that of a wealthy and
privaledged person.

geoffrey kimbrough

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Mar 25, 2002, 11:01:13 PM3/25/02
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Hank IsDrunk wrote:

> I like Elijah. I enjoyed his playing of Frodo and have enjoyed other
> things he's done. But when it comes to interviews, he's sounds like
> yet another actor who'd be best suited to hiring a "show personality"
> coach. Meaning, he seems just a bit over confident, and someone who

What can you expect? He's what, 22? In the last six months he's
gone from hard-working obscure (perhaps even starving) actor to
world-wide celebrity. He probably has to beat the babes off with
a baseball bat. Can't even drop by the local 7-11 to buy a coke
without provoking a traffic jam. What would that do to *your* ego?

> doesn't really appreciate the story of LotRs the way a lot of us do,
> instead is more into what it does for his showbiz career.

He could be the biggest Tolkien fan this side of Louis Epstein, but
the fact is he's an actor, and he will never do another Tolkien film,
since there aren't any to be done. (even if someone films The Hobbit,
they can't cast Frodo as Bilbo.) So what should he be thinking about?

> What's with the accent?

If the film has been made in Russia, he'd be speaking fluent Russian
and sounding like Boris Badinov. Capice?

> It's not that I dislike him now, I just wish he'd be a bit more
> humble.

It's hard to be humble when you're (temporarily) King of the World.

> . God I
> hate it when actors/characters I like turn out to be disappointing
> people in real life.

Well, stop going to movies, and sell the TV set too. It turns out that
all actors are ordinary people in real life. Half of them are below
average. Strange but true. 8^)

Drosselmeyer -- growing old in the Heart of Screenland

Bruce Hoult

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Mar 25, 2002, 11:44:47 PM3/25/02
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In article <3C9FF134...@earthlink.net>,
geoffrey kimbrough <gkimb...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > What's with the accent?
>
> If the film has been made in Russia, he'd be speaking fluent Russian
> and sounding like Boris Badinov. Capice?

^^^^^^^

Shouldn't that be "paynatya"?

-- Bruce

z11

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Mar 26, 2002, 12:57:30 AM3/26/02
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> He seems like he's *trying* to seem important or sophisticated. Is
> this what Hollywood does to kid actors?
>
> What's with the accent? He's born and bred right here in the heart of
> the US. At first I thought he was a bit overconfident based on
> interviews I had *read*; now, seeing him interviewed in
> person...uuugghhhhhh. It's not that I dislike him now, I just wish
> he'd be a bit more humble.

Well, he did clean up dog urine in Ozzy's house.


The Matt

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Mar 26, 2002, 1:27:05 AM3/26/02
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Maybe it is only me, but I fear for Elijah Wood's career. I think he's been
great in some films, and I thought he did well in FotR....but...
I could realistically see him taking a Leonardo DiCrapio crap dive. That
guy had some great performances, and then he did Titanic and no one (other
than perhaps the teen aged girls) will ever take him seriously. I hope for
Elijah's sake this isn't his path, but I can't help but fear for him.

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m

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Mar 26, 2002, 3:55:53 AM3/26/02
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> God I hate it when actors/characters I like turn out to be disappointing
> people in real life.
>

I bet if he met you, he would be just as disappointed. Only thing is, you
haven't achieved as much in your life as he has.

Emma Taylor

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Mar 26, 2002, 4:00:19 AM3/26/02
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"Hank IsDrunk" <t_the_t...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I imagine his accent is so confused it's running around in a dark room
screaming: "G'day! Howdy! Hello, old chap! Ahhhhhh!"

Emma


Emma Taylor

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Mar 26, 2002, 4:04:04 AM3/26/02
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Me too (sorry for top posting, but I couldn't be bothered to scroll down). I
can just see him going like Maclaugh Klay Mclaughin (whatever his name is).
But he seems like a remotely nice person, who has an utterly bizzare accent
and can be a juvenile idiot sometimes (see the thread about the article in
Rolling Stone), but also appreciates the books and the films. But his ego
needs some serious puncturing.

Emma


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Bernard El-Hagin

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Mar 26, 2002, 4:15:39 AM3/26/02
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Not agreeing or disagreeing about Wood's personality since I really
don't know him, but what exactly has Wood "achieved"? Not anything
important, really. Being an actor is one of the most unimportant
achievements one can aspire to.


Cheers,
Bernard

Emma Taylor

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Mar 26, 2002, 4:59:07 AM3/26/02
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"Speaking Clock" <ext2350...@pobox.com> wrote in message
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> "Emma Taylor" <emm...@btinternet.com>

>
> > But he seems like a remotely nice person, who has an utterly bizzare
> accent
>
> You don't put on a class British accent the way he did without developing
an
> inclination towards wanting to experiment with different sounds (if you
> don't already possess it naturally, which most actors probably do). He
> probaby just needs time to internalise everything he's learnt recently.

>
> > and can be a juvenile idiot sometimes (see the thread about the article
in
> > Rolling Stone), but also appreciates the books and the films. But his
ego
> > needs some serious puncturing.
>
> You know him well enough to pass judgment?
>
> He may have made a few mistakes but when I contemplate how most of the
> bright, capable 21-22 year olds of my acquaintance might handle the media
> pressure he's under, I doubt any of them could do any better.
>
> Speaking Clock
>
> Remove mascara to reply
>
>

True, in most interviews I have read with the cast, he sounds like a normal
guy, but then he gets talking about some sick thing he and Billy Boyd did,
and he sounds about 12 instead.

Emma


Emma Taylor

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Mar 26, 2002, 8:20:52 AM3/26/02
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"Speaking Clock" <ext2350...@pobox.com> wrote in message
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> "Emma Taylor" <emm...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > True, in most interviews I have read with the cast, he sounds like a
> normal
> > guy, but then he gets talking about some sick thing he and Billy Boyd
did,
> > and he sounds about 12 instead.
>
> The fountain incident? Um, how great is your experience of red-blooded 20
> year males with a bit of beer inside them? ;) It was a shame he talked
> about it afterwards but he'll learn, because he'll have to. Same with the
> colourful language issues, I guess.

>
> Speaking Clock
>
> Remove mascara to reply
>

Yeah, he does tend to swear rather a lot, doesn't he? Still, loads of people
I know do that, and they're older than he is.

Emma
>


Joy

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Mar 26, 2002, 8:58:17 AM3/26/02
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"Emma Taylor" <emm...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Me too (sorry for top posting, but I couldn't be bothered to scroll down).

<SNIP>

Hi.

nihil

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Mar 26, 2002, 10:07:30 AM3/26/02
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"Emma Taylor" <emm...@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:<a7pdi4$a7a$1...@helle.btinternet.com>...

> Me too (sorry for top posting, but I couldn't be bothered to scroll down). I
> can just see him going like Maclaugh Klay Mclaughin (whatever his name is).

Oh dear god.

Took me a while to figure out what you were saying there.

I believe you mean "Macaulay Culkin". Holy-misunderstood-name Batman.

Actually I found Elijah to be one of the cooler actors. He seemed to
enjoy doing the movie (and why not?). You can tell he's genuinely
enjoying his stardom, unlike other actors who now insist they be
treated as demigods because they made a cool film about ancient Rome.

Banjo

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Mar 26, 2002, 11:29:45 AM3/26/02
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> What's with the accent? He's born and bred right here in the heart of
> the US. At first I thought he was a bit overconfident based on
> interviews I had *read*; now, seeing him interviewed in
> person...uuugghhhhhh. It's not that I dislike him now, I just wish
> he'd be a bit more humble.
>
> And lose the silly, unfitting, pretentious and obvious accent. God I
> hate it when actors/characters I like turn out to be disappointing
> people in real life.

Any accent is better than American English... especially those from Southern
states...

I'd say it hurts me less to listen to a Manchunian (even if it's not to my
liking) than listening to an American (some rare accents excluded - those
happen _VERY_ rarely though).

Well done Elijah! Keep it up... you sound so much more like an educated man
now.... 3 cheers!

Banjo


Emma Taylor

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Mar 26, 2002, 12:49:56 PM3/26/02
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> I believe you mean "Macaulay Culkin". Holy-misunderstood-name Batman.
>
Yes, that's the one. Sorry, but I really didn't know his name.

> Actually I found Elijah to be one of the cooler actors.

As do I. Apart from some of the stranger stories I've heard about escapades
in New Zealand, he sounds normal.

He seemed to
> enjoy doing the movie (and why not?). You can tell he's genuinely
> enjoying his stardom, unlike other actors who now insist they be
> treated as demigods because they made a cool film about ancient Rome.

Yes, hate those people (cough - Russel Crowe - cough. Ok, he didn't make a
movie about Rome, but he has the demi-god thing all planned out).

Emma


Hank IsDrunk

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Mar 26, 2002, 1:14:50 PM3/26/02
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m <p...@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.170a47f6d...@news.f9.net.uk>...

Difference is, no one expects anything from a loser like me.

Hank IsDrunk

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Mar 26, 2002, 1:35:12 PM3/26/02
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One has to pick and choose who to respond to when a bunch of replies
come in (see below)...consider yourself priveledged. ;p

m <p...@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1709cf4cc...@news.f9.net.uk>...


> In article <6af83259.02032...@posting.google.com>,
> t_the_t...@yahoo.com says...
> >
> > Then, I listened to him speak with that accent and just began to
> > cringe. Cringe with embarrassment. Speaking with an
> > english/australian/new zealand accent was the trend of
> > yesteryear...several years ago. Madonna was doing it, among others.
> > He seems like he's *trying* to seem important or sophisticated. Is
> > this what Hollywood does to kid actors?
> >
> > What's with the accent? He's born and bred right here in the heart of
> > the US.
>
> > It's not that I dislike him now, I just wish
> > he'd be a bit more humble.
> >
>
> Since when has an Australian accent ever been considered posh ???
>
> Anyway, if you had spent the best part of nearly two years out in New Zealand,
> surrounded by natives, and Australians, I'm sure that you would also come back
> speaking like a Kiwi.

Of course I took that into consideration. "Posh", because much of
Australia is derived from England, owned by british gov't. Hence the
strong similarity in accent (the likes of which the majority of
Americans can't even discern).

But by the same token, I've spent time in the south, being from NY. I
never came back, even after extended periods, soundin' like ah racist,
KKK-riflen'-totin' hill-a-billy-withn'-ah-ignori'nt-draawwwwl
southerner.

(That was a JOKE folks...no offense to all you wonderful, kind
southerners).

> How is the American accent seen as 'humble' anyway. In most countries of the
> world the American accent is seen as being from that of a wealthy and
> privaledged person.

Well, this is an American making the post based on an
American-location event. To most *Americans*, anything resembling a
british accent is seen as uppity and priveledged, as long as it's not
too suburban London-ish or outright Australian (his accent wasn't
outright *anything*). I wasn't suggesting an American accent sounds
humble either. To that I was only referring to his demeanor.

I'm just talkin perceptions, that's all.

Jette Goldie

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Mar 26, 2002, 1:36:05 PM3/26/02
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"Emma Taylor" wrote
>
> "Speaking Clock" wrote

> > He may have made a few mistakes but when I contemplate how most of the
> > bright, capable 21-22 year olds of my acquaintance might handle the
media
> > pressure he's under, I doubt any of them could do any better.
> >
> >
>
> True, in most interviews I have read with the cast, he sounds like a
normal
> guy, but then he gets talking about some sick thing he and Billy Boyd did,
> and he sounds about 12 instead.


Tell ya a secret, ladies, one that I worked out in 43 years
surrounded by men (brothers, boyfriends, husbands,
fathers, colleagues and best buddies). ALL men are
somewhere around 12 years old in their psyche and
humour. They'll deny it (just wait till you see the howls
of protest to this <g>) but they are. They can be the
most intelligent, sophisticated, grown up guys you
ever met - but get them together with their best (male)
friends (especially old school friends - this seems to
be a particularly dangerous thing to allow your husband
to do) and maybe introduce a small amount of booze
(but not always necessary). Either remove all females
from the vicinity or make those females "one of the
guys"..... and next thing you know they're having belching
contests, comparing willy sizes and lighting their farts
just like when they were 12.

<shrug> it's why we love them, really <g>

Jeff George

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Mar 26, 2002, 5:37:17 PM3/26/02
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And anybody that's openminded enough to throw the word cunt around is OK
by me.
--

Jeff George
Soy El Diablo Gringo Supremo (Loco)

Jeff George

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Mar 26, 2002, 5:37:45 PM3/26/02
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Emma Taylor wrote:
>
> > I believe you mean "Macaulay Culkin". Holy-misunderstood-name Batman.
> >
> Yes, that's the one. Sorry, but I really didn't know his name.
> > Actually I found Elijah to be one of the cooler actors.
>
> As do I. Apart from some of the stranger stories I've heard about escapades
> in New Zealand, he sounds normal.
>

Wow, you really seem to have some uptightness issues.

Donald Shepherd

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Mar 26, 2002, 5:47:06 PM3/26/02
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In article <6af83259.02032...@posting.google.com>, Hank
IsDrunk (t_the_t...@yahoo.com) says...

> One has to pick and choose who to respond to when a bunch of replies
> come in (see below)...consider yourself priveledged. ;p
>
> m <p...@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1709cf4cc...@news.f9.net.uk>...
> > In article <6af83259.02032...@posting.google.com>,
> > t_the_t...@yahoo.com says...
> > >
> > > Then, I listened to him speak with that accent and just began to
> > > cringe. Cringe with embarrassment. Speaking with an
> > > english/australian/new zealand accent was the trend of
> > > yesteryear...several years ago. Madonna was doing it, among others.
> > > He seems like he's *trying* to seem important or sophisticated. Is
> > > this what Hollywood does to kid actors?
> > >
> > > What's with the accent? He's born and bred right here in the heart of
> > > the US.
> >
> > > It's not that I dislike him now, I just wish
> > > he'd be a bit more humble.
> > >
> >
> > Since when has an Australian accent ever been considered posh ???
> >
> > Anyway, if you had spent the best part of nearly two years out in New Zealand,
> > surrounded by natives, and Australians, I'm sure that you would also come back
> > speaking like a Kiwi.
>
> Of course I took that into consideration. "Posh", because much of
> Australia is derived from England, owned by british gov't. Hence the
> strong similarity in accent (the likes of which the majority of
> Americans can't even discern).

Me thinks you are confuzzling Australian and New Zealand accents...

I ain't sounding nuthin like a Pom.
--
Donald Shepherd
<donald_...@hotmail.com>

Stupid grammar aside.

Jeff George

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Mar 26, 2002, 5:38:12 PM3/26/02
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Yeah, but he has lots of money.

Celaeno

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Mar 26, 2002, 7:31:17 PM3/26/02
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You will not evade me, t_the_t...@yahoo.com (Hank IsDrunk):

>Then, I listened to him speak with that accent and just began to
>cringe. Cringe with embarrassment. Speaking with an
>english/australian/new zealand accent was the trend of
>yesteryear...several years ago. Madonna was doing it, among others.
>He seems like he's *trying* to seem important or sophisticated. Is
>this what Hollywood does to kid actors?

It's a good thing you'll never hear me talk. My mongrel English accent
mutates according to where I am. It was particularly interesting after
I'd spent four days in New Jersey.


Cel
TEUNC Triumvirate
no longer accompanied by small canine :(

Joe Hardy

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Mar 26, 2002, 8:23:53 PM3/26/02
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> Yeah, but he has lots of money.

Which, of course, is life's aim.

*cough*


Darth Krystal

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Mar 27, 2002, 12:52:57 AM3/27/02
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>And anybody that's openminded enough to throw the word cunt around is OK
>by me.

I read that Rolling Stone magazine interview post. I was expecting something
worse, but after I read it, I realized that I've already read that interview.
And when I did read it I didn't think anything of it. I can't stand people who
get offended by every stupid little thing. Its becoming to a point where the
world is TOO politically correct. Im getting sick of hearing this racial,
feministic crap. And yes im a girl. I've known guys that act worse than Elijah
and his buddies did. Even my dad told me all this crap he did when he was
young, and he's like the model father. I notice that when guys are around other
guys, that just spells trouble, no matter who they are. I Find what Elijah did
pretty damn mild actually. So everyone who was actually offended by it, please
go to the nearest hospital and get those sticks removed from your asses. Thank
you.

~Signed Krystal who still loves Elijah Wood~

Emma Taylor

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Mar 27, 2002, 3:29:48 AM3/27/02
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> Tell ya a secret, ladies, one that I worked out in 43 years
> surrounded by men (brothers, boyfriends, husbands,
> fathers, colleagues and best buddies). ALL men are
> somewhere around 12 years old in their psyche and
> humour. They'll deny it (just wait till you see the howls
> of protest to this <g>) but they are. They can be the
> most intelligent, sophisticated, grown up guys you
> ever met - but get them together with their best (male)
> friends (especially old school friends - this seems to
> be a particularly dangerous thing to allow your husband
> to do) and maybe introduce a small amount of booze
> (but not always necessary). Either remove all females
> from the vicinity or make those females "one of the
> guys"..... and next thing you know they're having belching
> contests, comparing willy sizes and lighting their farts
> just like when they were 12.
>
> <shrug> it's why we love them, really <g>
>
>
> --
> Jette
> (aka Vinyaduriel)
> "Work for Peace and remain fiercely loving" - Jim Byrnes
> je...@blueyonder.co.uk
> http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fanfic.html
>
>
>
Sad, but true, so true. I know enough adults to realise that.

Emma


kbrors

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Mar 27, 2002, 3:26:53 AM3/27/02
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> > > Then, I listened to him speak with that accent and just began to
> > > cringe. Cringe with embarrassment. Speaking with an
> > > english/australian/new zealand accent was the trend of
> > > yesteryear...several years ago. Madonna was doing it, among others.
> > > He seems like he's *trying* to seem important or sophisticated. Is
> > > this what Hollywood does to kid actors?
> > >
> > > What's with the accent? He's born and bred right here in the heart of
> > > the US.
> >
> > > It's not that I dislike him now, I just wish
> > > he'd be a bit more humble.

Humble?? What does that have to do with the way you speak??
Also, Elijah spent over a year in NZ around mostly NZers and people from the
British Isles...AND he was trying to learn to speak English with a british
accent....he was also being encouraged to use the accent in his spare
time....maybe after a while it sounded and felt natural, and he decided to
keep it up when returning to the US....or maybe it is not conscious?
I moved to Australia 13 years ago and to start with everybody asked me where
I was from....but now they all think I am Australian...I have not TRIED to
learn, it just becomes natural after a while.
I do not see anything snobbish in it even if he HAD decided to change his
way of speaking!!
Kirsten


Emma Taylor

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Mar 27, 2002, 3:33:53 AM3/27/02
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"Darth Krystal" <missj...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Basically, I am typing int his thread as though I have just read that
article, and that I do not like Elijah Wood rather more than is healthy (I
do). I wasn't offended, and I wouldn't be, even if I had never heard of him
before. It isn't meant to be offensive, and it isn't meant to provoke an
entire conversation about this one word. Who cares? He did a great job of
Frodo, and that's all I honestly care about.

Emma


Bernard El-Hagin

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Mar 27, 2002, 4:14:40 AM3/27/02
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So?


Cheers,
Bernard

Banjo

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Mar 27, 2002, 5:19:51 AM3/27/02
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> > Tell ya a secret, ladies, one that I worked out in 43 years
> > surrounded by men (brothers, boyfriends, husbands,
> > fathers, colleagues and best buddies). ALL men are
> > somewhere around 12 years old in their psyche and
> > humour. They'll deny it (just wait till you see the howls
> > of protest to this <g>) but they are. They can be the
> > most intelligent, sophisticated, grown up guys you
> > ever met - but get them together with their best (male)
> > friends (especially old school friends - this seems to
> > be a particularly dangerous thing to allow your husband
> > to do) and maybe introduce a small amount of booze
> > (but not always necessary). Either remove all females
> > from the vicinity or make those females "one of the
> > guys"..... and next thing you know they're having belching
> > contests, comparing willy sizes and lighting their farts
> > just like when they were 12.
> >
> > <shrug> it's why we love them, really <g>
> >
> >
> Sad, but true, so true. I know enough adults to realise that.
>
> Emma
>
>

What's wrong with a belching contest? Why shoudl an adult stop belching
(esp. if he/she likes this stuff?) ? Perhaps they could if they feel/want
so, but why impose same principia on a different beeing or condemn them if
they decide not to?

Now... if all adult men belch, light farts etc. etc as if they were 12 ....
wouldn't it mean that a a young male reaches adulthood at the tender age of
12 (contrary to the common belief that female homo sapiens is the first one
to reach adult-like mentality)... and they simply remain at that adult
attitude for the rest of their lives?

I feel it is prejudicial to say that a fart or belch contest makes someone
adolescent becuase young people do it, and not consider the opposite view
that it perhaps makes the youngsters adult (or near-adult) since they embark
on the same sort of way of life the adult males do.... Besides there are
countless examples of things we do throughout our lives from a very early
age (not mentioning the obvious biologically driven functions we could jump
immediately to reading in general or reading Tolkien in particular).

This swiftly takes us to another side of this situation.

Condemning the belching and/or farting behaviour as inappropriate, kiddish
etc. seems highly prejudicial again as it is going to be extremely hard to
prove that a person or a group of people has got the right to pass judgement
on such things (unless they themselves vest this power on their
representatives - in this case I should ask my friends to nominate me as the
Judge Earth and I shall start passing my laws on everyone).

In a mental institution it is the sane people that appear insane as they
behave in a manner that is aboslutely contrary to the common behaviour at
this place.

Strangly... it also appears the more adult (the term and the meaning as used
in the previous post) homo sapiens behave the more likely they are to be
bound by the rules of others, the more likely they are to pass judegement
and the more likely they are to ignore the other views as if relativity did
not exist.


Banjo


Jeff George

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It is, of course, life's aim.

Bernard El-Hagin

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In article <3CA1D614...@DAMNSPAMmsn.com>, Jeff George wrote:
> Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
>>
>> In article <3CA0F84D...@DAMNSPAMmsn.com>, Jeff George wrote:
>> > Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In article <MPG.170a47f6d...@news.f9.net.uk>, m wrote:
>> >> > In article <6af83259.02032...@posting.google.com>,
>> >> > t_the_t...@yahoo.com says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> God I hate it when actors/characters I like turn out to be disappointing
>> >> >> people in real life.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I bet if he met you, he would be just as disappointed. Only thing is, you
>> >> > haven't achieved as much in your life as he has.
>> >>
>> >> Not agreeing or disagreeing about Wood's personality since I really
>> >> don't know him, but what exactly has Wood "achieved"? Not anything
>> >> important, really. Being an actor is one of the most unimportant
>> >> achievements one can aspire to.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Yeah, but he has lots of money.
>>
>> So?
>>
>
> It is, of course, life's aim.

Now I see.

Mental note - kill self if money ever becomes my life's aim.


Cheers,
Bernard

Emma Taylor

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"Bernard El-Hagin" <bernard.el-hagin@DODGE_THISlido-tech.net> wrote in
message news:a7slfk$e60$1...@news.tpi.pl...

Good on you. Can't they see that working is life's aim? (snigger).

Emma


Jeff George

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Mar 27, 2002, 2:05:58 PM3/27/02
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Mental note - kill self when sense of humor becomes impaired and I
become an inflated stuffed shirt.

Donald Shepherd

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Mar 27, 2002, 9:14:04 PM3/27/02
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In article <a7sltc$7dk$1...@helle.btinternet.com>, Emma Taylor
(emm...@btinternet.com) says...

> > >> > Yeah, but he has lots of money.
> > >>
> > >> So?
> > >>
> > >
> > > It is, of course, life's aim.
> >
> > Now I see.
> >
> > Mental note - kill self if money ever becomes my life's aim.
>
> Good on you. Can't they see that working is life's aim? (snigger).

Of course! It's the journey that is important, not the cash you rake in
when you get there.
--
Donald Shepherd
<donald_...@hotmail.com>

A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your mother.

Bernard El-Hagin

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Mental note - what you said.

It's ironic that you expect others to understand when you're joking,
but don't understand when others do it.


Cheers,
Bernard

Jeff George

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Mar 28, 2002, 10:17:26 AM3/28/02
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Sometimes it's hard to tell with Tolkien fans, if you know what I'm
saying and I think you do.

Graeme

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Mar 28, 2002, 12:10:54 PM3/28/02
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>> Mental note - kill self if money ever becomes my life's aim.
>>

Well, you'll certainly be able to afford a gun.

kafine

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"Speaking Clock" <ext2350...@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:a7phrv$n8062$1...@ID-93488.news.dfncis.de...

> "Emma Taylor" <emm...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > True, in most interviews I have read with the cast, he sounds like a
> normal
> > guy, but then he gets talking about some sick thing he and Billy Boyd
did,
> > and he sounds about 12 instead.
>
> The fountain incident? Um, how great is your experience of red-blooded 20
> year males with a bit of beer inside them?

And if you see that fountain, it all becomes clear. Most New Zealanders I
know guffawed in laughter at that bit of news, because the fountain in
question is a serious lapse of good taste, involving a wheel of brightly
coloured plastic buckets, which constantly splash water across the street
whenever the wind blows (which, in Wellington, is frequently), and takes up
most of the pavement so that people are forced to squeeze around it.

I'm sure many young kiwis have been tempted to do something similar on
occasion.

ann
(yucky, YUCKY fountain!)


Bernard El-Hagin

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Mar 29, 2002, 1:25:29 AM3/29/02
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Yes I know exactly what you're saying, mate.


Cheers,
Bernard

John Smith

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>> >> >> >> >> God I hate it when actors/characters I like turn out to be
disappointing
>> >> >> >> >> people in real life.

That's just how it is, but your boundaries are set and you can't get into
their real lives from where the audience stands, so they shouldn't even look
into it. Just appreciate them for what they are on the screen, because they
don't want you to know them personally. They deserve a private life as much
as the next man. They can't pretend to be someone else but themselves in
reality.

Emma Taylor

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"John Smith" <patman_...@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:D1mp8.238518$kb.13...@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...

I've stopped trying to figure out EW. He is simply too weird (for the want
of a better word). I have read a lot of cast interviews where he sounds
genuinely excited and interested in the whole filme experience, and then you
hear he has done something decidedly odd. I guess you just have to put it
down to him being 21 (? Is that right?)...Still, I can't understand why
people get all uptight about stuff he says. I don't think he thinks about
half the stuff that comes out of his mouth anyway (laughs)

Emma


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