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Ian P

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Jan 31, 2004, 7:23:17 AM1/31/04
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Sorry to be posting here yet again about the movie, and yet again about a
topic that I know others have already debated - but I have noticed that a
lot of people feel that Hugo Weaving was inappropriately cast as Elrond, and
this is something that I also felt when I first saw the movies. But as I now
look back at the books, and particularly at the appendices, and notice that
Elrond is in fact really half-elf, then I am somehwat less inclined to think
that Hugo Weaving is a miscasting. I can accept that some might seem him as
a little too "earthy" and yet when you think that he is actually ultimately
the same race as Aragorn, that is not so out of place, is it?

By the way, as I look more into these genealogies (which admittedly I find
terribly confusing) I realise that Arwen and Aragorn are in fact related to
each other - she's something like his great-great-great-great-great Aunt
(with a few 'greats' omitted).

Reminds me of Brunnhilde and Siegfried in Wagner's Ring :-)

Ian (Australia)

L Gray

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Jan 31, 2004, 12:11:57 PM1/31/04
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Actually, Aragorn and Arwen are cousins umpty-ump times removed (her
father --Elrond-- and Aragorn's g-g-g...g-g-grandfather --Elros-- were
brothers).

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"Make me one with everything."

zbihniew aries

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Jan 31, 2004, 1:12:19 PM1/31/04
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Użytkownik L Gray napisał:

> Actually, Aragorn and Arwen are cousins umpty-ump times removed (her
> father --Elrond-- and Aragorn's g-g-g...g-g-grandfather --Elros-- were
> brothers).

g...father on the distaff side


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Tim

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Jan 31, 2004, 3:16:41 PM1/31/04
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I thought Hugo Weaving was just fine as Elrond, so dunno what y'all moaning
about. :o)
tim


zbihniew aries

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Jan 31, 2004, 4:06:52 PM1/31/04
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> I thought Hugo Weaving was just fine as Elrond, so dunno what y'all moaning
> about. :o)

he might've been good but while he was talking, i couldnt stop thinking
about him as agent smith :]

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Ian P

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Jan 31, 2004, 6:22:30 PM1/31/04
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"L Gray" <ple...@no.mail> wrote in message
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> Actually, Aragorn and Arwen are cousins umpty-ump times removed (her
> father --Elrond-- and Aragorn's g-g-g...g-g-grandfather --Elros-- were
> brothers).

Actually, yes, you are right. Sorry about that. I can't for the life of me
think how I got that one wrong :-)

Ian

the softrat

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Jan 31, 2004, 7:43:28 PM1/31/04
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:06:52 +0100, zbihniew aries
<zbih...@anonymous.com> wrote:

>> I thought Hugo Weaving was just fine as Elrond, so dunno what y'all moaning
>> about. :o)
>
>he might've been good but while he was talking, i couldnt stop thinking
>about him as agent smith :]

That, of course, is YOUR problem. (I hear that you share it with many
others.)

Heaven Forbid that we should accuse Hugo Weaving of being anything
less than a Great Actor.


the softrat
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L Gray

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Jan 31, 2004, 8:32:34 PM1/31/04
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Ian P wrote:

Apologies? Nay, lad, none needed.

Anyway, back to your main point, I liked Weaving as Elrond. He didn't
quite fit my preconception of what Elrond would look like (I too had
pictured him as being a little more, well, regal), but Hugo wasn't so
far off of what I had in my mind that it bothered me. And I had the
benefit of being one of the three people in the Western world who had
not yet seen The Matrix, so I didn't have THAT baggage to tote around in ME.

Martin Francis

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Feb 1, 2004, 6:43:45 AM2/1/04
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"L Gray" <ple...@no.mail> wrote in message
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And I had the
> benefit of being one of the three people in the Western world who had
> not yet seen The Matrix, so I didn't have THAT baggage to tote around in
ME.

Nor I, so who is the other one?

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L Gray

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Feb 1, 2004, 9:15:31 AM2/1/04
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Martin Francis wrote:
> "L Gray" <ple...@no.mail> wrote in message
> news:SGYSb.4483$07....@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
>>And I had the
>>benefit of being one of the three people in the Western world who had
>>not yet seen The Matrix, so I didn't have THAT baggage to tote around in
>>ME.
>
> Nor I, so who is the other one?
>

Why, that was Hugo himself. See what you miss when you skip the club
meetings?

C-Beeby

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Feb 1, 2004, 10:40:52 AM2/1/04
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"Ian P" <parsi...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> Sorry to be posting here yet again about the movie, and yet again about a
> topic that I know others have already debated - but I have noticed that a
> lot of people feel that Hugo Weaving was inappropriately cast as Elrond
(snip)

Hugo Weaving is a mighty fine actor and does a magnificent Elrond. Those of
us who are familiar with the film "Pricilla, Queen of the desert" also know
he looks magnificent in a dress. When watching The Fellowship of the Ring I
just about managed to stop thinking about him in drag, because that would
have been very strange and rather disturbing ;-) .

Helen.


"It's the wrong trousers Gromit! And they've gone wrong!"


TchWrtrMcf

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Feb 1, 2004, 12:13:12 PM2/1/04
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Elrond sits down opposite the table from Frodo, puts on a pair of dark glasses
and says:
Mr Baggins, you have been living two lives. In one, you are a prosperous
bachelor hobbit. You give half pennies to small children, putter around the
garden and... help the gaffer take out your garbage.
In your other life, you are known as the Ringbearer. You are guilty of just
about every crime mordor can think of, and keep the most powerful magic in the
universe under a basket of scones in your kitchen. One of these lives has a
future, Mr Baggins, and one does not...

zbihniew aries

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Feb 1, 2004, 1:09:18 PM2/1/04
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Użytkownik TchWrtrMcf napisał:

> Elrond sits down opposite the table from Frodo, puts on a pair of dark glasses
> and says:

nay, he rather takes it off

the softrat

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Feb 2, 2004, 10:27:38 PM2/2/04
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On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:43:45 +0000 (UTC), "Martin Francis"
<removethisbefore...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>"L Gray" <ple...@no.mail> wrote in message
>news:SGYSb.4483$07....@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
>And I had the
>> benefit of being one of the three people in the Western world who had
>> not yet seen The Matrix, so I didn't have THAT baggage to tote around in
>ME.
>
>Nor I, so who is the other one?

ME!


the softrat
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aelfwina

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Feb 3, 2004, 11:07:42 AM2/3/04
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"Martin Francis" <removethisbefore...@btinternet.com> wrote in
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> "L Gray" <ple...@no.mail> wrote in message
> news:SGYSb.4483$07....@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
> And I had the
> > benefit of being one of the three people in the Western world who had
> > not yet seen The Matrix, so I didn't have THAT baggage to tote around in
> ME.
>
> Nor I, so who is the other one?

Me. (In fact, when I finally *did* see Matrix, I kept thinking "Elrond!")
Barbara

Celaeno

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Feb 5, 2004, 2:15:20 PM2/5/04
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You will not evade me, zbihniew aries <zbih...@anonymous.com>:

>> I thought Hugo Weaving was just fine as Elrond, so dunno what y'all moaning
>> about. :o)
>
>he might've been good but while he was talking, i couldnt stop thinking
>about him as agent smith :]

I thought of Priscilla...


Cel
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