Two Questions for the faithful

[VTalker]

Okay, here's my two cents worth, but then it might be worth less since I
don't know what the two questions are. Seems to be about the Witch King
and his demise. So, How could a Chick and a spy from the ratland of the
Shire (God I love
that quote from The Mouth!) take down the King of the Nazgul?

Fate.

Yeah, I know its cheesey and possibly a cop out, but you have to remember
just how strong a role fate played in Middle Earth. Take the Elves, and
the way they were resigned to loosing all they had fought for. Take AN
Elf, Glorfindel of Imladris.
He's the one who foresaw the Witch Kings death at the hand of someone
other than a man. That leaves Merry stabbing him, I suppose. Well, his
sword was forged in one the Dunedain realms of Arnor, "Whose enimies of
old was the Witch King of Angmar." I hate quoting because I usually get it
wrong. I'm pretty sure if I were a Dunadan Swordmaker capable of
enchantment, I'd put a little something extra in for the Witch Kings *ss.
Geeze, All that and the question was probably somthin else. I like both
obsevations, though.

[Joshua Dyal]

VTalker wrote:
> He's the one who foresaw the Witch Kings death at the hand of someone
> other than a man. That leaves Merry stabbing him, I suppose.

But then again, if you read the essay "Of Dwarves and Men" in the
Peoples of Middle-Earth, it seems to imply that hobbits are men after
all. Very interesting essay, I think. Written late in Tolkien's life,
so it takes into account almost everything he had written so far. The
only reasons it wasn't published before was a) it was missing the first
page, and b) it was only a rough draft, not a polished, publishable
text.

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[James Armour, Jr.]

VTalker wrote:
> Elf, Glorfindel of Imladris.

> He's the one who foresaw the Witch Kings death at the hand of someone
> other than a man. That leaves Merry stabbing him, I suppose.

actually it was Eowyn that _killed_ him, the stab from Merry's sword only
made it possible for the kill (brought him over)

[VTalker]

Sorry if I was unclear. Yes, Eowyn scored and Merry got the assist.
As to Merry "bringing him over", (Leaving him vulnerable for Eowyn) we're
all pretty much speculating. So, Heres my speculation....again! I think a
certain set of prescribed circumstances rendered The Witch King vulnerable
for a brief window of opportunity. In other words, his fate, for he did
not "die" at the hands of a man.
Fate arranged to have a woman handy. Merry was present for this and cashed
in. I cant remember who said his "faie" or something survived, but I
agree. He was only partialy in this world, the rest (I'd say the majority)
dwealt in the shadow realm.
Eowyn and Merry just helped him seek, shall we say, "New empoyment
opportunities" in the shadow realm. I truely hate quotes because I always
get them wrong, but Tolkein said (I think) "...never was that awful cry
heard again that age..". From that I draw the conclusion that he's alive,
if not well, in the shadow realm.

Mae Govannon dude,
Vince