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Josh Sims

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Is it just me, or does Cate Blanchett have a decidedly un-elvish honker?

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Russ

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In article <8ju4fo$4di6$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>, "Josh Sims"
<josh...@prodigy.net> writes:

>Is it just me, or does Cate Blanchett have a decidedly un-elvish honker?

I'd go with the whole face.

Acting aside...I don't think she looks elvish at all.

Russ

Josh Sims

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Russ <mcr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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No, I think minus the nose she looks very beautiful. (Not that it's really
some pendulous proposcis or anything.) I especially like the color of her
skin. She has a marvelous complexion.
But overall, whether she could pass, in appearance and nothing else, as an
elf, I don't know. Yet I certainly never pictured Galadriel like that.

And the same thing for the guy who's playing Wormtongue. Unless they mean to
really do him up good, he doesn't look a thing like the Grima of the book.
But his nose is okay, at least.

lytlian

Muse

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Russ wrote in message <20000704234905...@nso-md.aol.com>...


>In article <8ju4fo$4di6$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>, "Josh Sims"
><josh...@prodigy.net> writes:
>
>>Is it just me, or does Cate Blanchett have a decidedly un-elvish honker?
>
>I'd go with the whole face.
>
>Acting aside...I don't think she looks elvish at all.
>

And what exactly is an Elvish look or indeed an Elvish nose? :)

Jim

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Josh Sims wrote in message <8ju4fo$4di6$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>...

>
>Is it just me, or does Cate Blanchett have a decidedly un-elvish honker?


Well, not personally having seen any elves I can't say for sure.
I think she is a good cast for the part though, she is very pretty, with a
kind of ageless look, she doesn't look too young, but neither does she look
old. I think they will touch her up with prosthetics and post production, I
doubt theres much need to worry.
I'm more concerend with Liv Tyler as Arwen. She isn't at all like I imagined
Arwen.

Jim D

Josh Sims

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Muse <vol...@netzero.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Russ wrote in message <20000704234905...@nso-md.aol.com>...
> >In article <8ju4fo$4di6$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>, "Josh Sims"
> ><josh...@prodigy.net> writes:
> >

> >>Is it just me, or does Cate Blanchett have a decidedly un-elvish honker?
> >

> >I'd go with the whole face.
> >
> >Acting aside...I don't think she looks elvish at all.
> >
> And what exactly is an Elvish look or indeed an Elvish nose? :)
>
>

Well, IIRC Tolkien said something about them being leaf shaped.

Actually, I have to agree with what Jim said. She does look ageless. Old and
young at the same time. I think a properly leaf-shaped nose would really add
to this effect though.

lytlian

Bernie

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"Josh Sims" <josh...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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>
> Is it just me, or does Cate Blanchett have a decidedly un-elvish honker?
>
I'm with you all the way on this, Josh. No sooner have we persuaded
Hollywood to stop colouring up white folks for black and Asian roles than we
find that they are casting humans as elves! Is there no end to Hollywood
bigotry?

Bernie

Jon

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In article <8jvrov$17tc$1...@newssvr05-en0.news.prodigy.com>,

Josh Sims <josh...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> I think a properly leaf-shaped nose would really add
> to this effect though.

Except when it falls off in Autumn....
Jon.

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grimgard

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Josh Sims wrote:

> No, I think minus the nose she looks very beautiful. (Not that it's really
> some pendulous proposcis or anything.) I especially like the color of her
> skin. She has a marvelous complexion.
> But overall, whether she could pass, in appearance and nothing else, as an
> elf, I don't know. Yet I certainly never pictured Galadriel like that.
>

Well, I have to disagree. I took a picture of Cate and removed the nose and,
believe me, she was *not* beautiful. Anyway, everyone knows that Elves have
pointed noses.

grimgard


grimgard

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Jim wrote:

> Well, not personally having seen any elves I can't say for sure.
> I think she is a good cast for the part though, she is very pretty, with a
> kind of ageless look, she doesn't look too young, but neither does she look
> old. I think they will touch her up with prosthetics and post production, I
> doubt theres much need to worry.
> I'm more concerend with Liv Tyler as Arwen. She isn't at all like I imagined
> Arwen.
>
> Jim D

Definitely. It should have been Nia Peeples. Actually, I remember a girl I
knew when I was growing up who looked decidely Elvish. I didn't think of it as
'Elvish' at the time, of course. I just thought that, if her school ever put on
a production of 'A Midsummer Night's Dream,' she should definitely play a
sprite. She had blonde frizzy hair, and the whole effect was really rather
charming. I wonder whatever became of her? >-/

grimgard


China Blue Ribbon Commission

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/ Actually, I have to agree with what Jim said. She does look ageless. Old and
/ young at the same time. I think a properly leaf-shaped nose would really add
/ to this effect though.

What kind of leaf? Maple, liveoak, bay, walnut, or dandelion?

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Josh Sims

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> / Actually, I have to agree with what Jim said. She does look ageless. Old
and
> / young at the same time. I think a properly leaf-shaped nose would really
add
> / to this effect though.
>
> What kind of leaf? Maple, liveoak, bay, walnut, or dandelion?
>

Well, as Jon pointed out, it would have to be an evergreen. So I'm thinking
magnolia. Bay is evergreen too, isn't it? Some oaks qualify. Mesquite,
maybe. And then of course, there's any kind of palm, banyan, or any tropical
tree. Except I think we'd have to rule those out, or their noses would have
died in the cooler, dryer climates.

But then, if they were deciduous noses, just imagine how beautiful they'd
appear as they travel to the Havens, their noses changing to reds and
yellows, fluttering one by one into the grass, leaving a lovely fiery carpet
behind them as they passed into the West.


lytlian

"Hmmm! It smells like elves!" --Bilbo


Josh Sims

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grimgard <grim...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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<snip>


>
> Well, I have to disagree. I took a picture of Cate and removed the nose
and,
> believe me, she was *not* beautiful. Anyway, everyone knows that Elves
have
> pointed noses.
>
> grimgard
>

so a yucca leaf might do. They're about as pointed as you get.

maybe instead of just removing the nose, you should replace it. :> I don't
imagine many women would look good without any nose at all. You can try
different peoples' noses on her, and when you find the right one, you can
suggest to PJ that he use a nose double. Then they really *can* call him a
groundbreaking director.

Reading that bit on E!Online, I got the impression they were altering the
exchange between Frodo and Galadriel. That is one of the few absolutely
perfect portions ever found in any literature. I sure hope I got the wrong
impression. If they just keep the words, and say them right, I will be in
heaven, even if I do have some huge bulbous honker swaying before me.

lytlian
the destroyer of noses

China Blue Ribbon Commission

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/ > / Actually, I have to agree with what Jim said. She does look ageless. Old
/ and
/ > / young at the same time. I think a properly leaf-shaped nose would really
/ add
/ > / to this effect though.
/ >
/ > What kind of leaf? Maple, liveoak, bay, walnut, or dandelion?
/ >
/
/ Well, as Jon pointed out, it would have to be an evergreen. So I'm thinking
/ magnolia. Bay is evergreen too, isn't it? Some oaks qualify. Mesquite,

Around here bay and oak are evergreens. Bay leaves are long, somewhat
narrow, smell good, and have vivid colours. Oak leaves are smaller, dark
olive, somewhat ovoid, with small spines around the edges.

/ But then, if they were deciduous noses, just imagine how beautiful they'd
/ appear as they travel to the Havens, their noses changing to reds and
/ yellows, fluttering one by one into the grass, leaving a lovely fiery carpet
/ behind them as they passed into the West.

Bays and oaks don't turn red or yellow. Well some oaks turn yellow then
gray, but that's because some unknown pestilence is blasting through the
forests here. Our oaks trees may become a memory of the past.

Adrian Ratnapala

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On Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:17:56 -0400, Josh Sims <josh...@prodigy.net> wrote:

>Well, as Jon pointed out, it would have to be an evergreen. So I'm thinking

>magnolia. Bay is evergreen too, isn't it? Some oaks qualify. Mesquite,

Well isn't Cate an Aussie? I'd say it'd have to be the good old
gum Tree.

>But then, if they were deciduous noses, just imagine how beautiful they'd

>appear as they travel to the Havens, their noses changing to reds and

I know plenty of peoples whose noses turn red in the winter. And
while they don't fall off, things do come out.

Bernie

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"Josh Sims" <josh...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> Is it just me, or does Cate Blanchett have a decidedly un-elvish honker?
>

You're right, they should replace her with Daniella Westbrook.

Bernie

Öjevind Lång

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Jon hath written:

> Josh Sims <josh...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>> I think a properly leaf-shaped nose would really add
>> to this effect though.
>
>Except when it falls off in Autumn....


Was that the event that inspired Galadriel to write her song "Lasselanta"?

Öjevind

Öjevind Lång

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Adrian Ratnapala hath written:

>Josh Sims wrote:

[snip]


>>But then, if they were deciduous noses, just imagine how beautiful they'd
>>appear as they travel to the Havens, their noses changing to reds and
>I know plenty of peoples whose noses turn red in the winter. And
>while they don't fall off, things do come out.

Snottelanta.

Öjevind

grimgard

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Josh Sims wrote:

> maybe instead of just removing the nose, you should replace it. :> I don't
> imagine many women would look good without any nose at all. You can try
> different peoples' noses on her, and when you find the right one, you can
> suggest to PJ that he use a nose double. Then they really *can* call him a
> groundbreaking director.
>

Hey, you said (and I quote), "I think minus the nose she looks very beautiful."

grimgard


Josh Sims

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grimgard <grim...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

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<snip>


> Hey, you said (and I quote), "I think minus the nose she looks very
beautiful."
>
> grimgard
>

Well...Okay.
But I meant it *figuratively*.
Technically, you would have to do a nose transplant with, say, Calista
Flockhart.
Otherwise you wind up with flesh and blood anime.

And, with a different nose, I think she would look beautiful. Unlike someone
like Cher or Barbara Streisand, who would (or does) just look plain.

And who was it that said something about prosthetics? How do you make a
schnozola like that look *smaller* with prosthetics?


lytlian

Josh Sims

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who's Daniella Westbrook?

lytlian

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Josh Sims wrote:

> Technically, you would have to do a nose transplant with, say, Calista
> Flockhart.

You can't remove any part of Callista Flockhart. There's already so
little there, she's liable to blow away at the next gust of wind.

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Sorry - sick joke. She's an English actress who burned her nose away
snorting cocaine.

Bernie

Jim

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>Sorry - sick joke. She's an English actress who burned her nose away
>snorting cocaine.


Not her whole nose, just some of the inside.
Still, that must take a hell of a lot of coke.

Jim D

grimgard

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Josh Sims wrote:

> And, with a different nose, I think she would look beautiful. Unlike someone
> like Cher or Barbara Streisand, who would (or does) just look plain.
>
> And who was it that said something about prosthetics? How do you make a
> schnozola like that look *smaller* with prosthetics?
>
> lytlian

Well, I don't know about Barbra, but Cher has a very well constructed body, so I
doubt that too many people are looking at her nose. Not necessarily a great
body of the type that you would expect to see on a Playboy model, but very
symmetrical and with all parts nicely matched, which is why she can get away
with wearing such outlandish costumes. That's not to say that she doesn't
sometimes look silly, or that the outfit doesn't look ridiculous, but *she*
never looks bad. Anyway, in this age of computer generated special effects, I
can't imagine why anyone would want to bother with something like a prosthetic
nose, even if it *did* make sense (which, I agree, it doesn't).

grimgard


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