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RossWilymz

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Jan 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/22/96
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From: he...@netcom.com (henry)
]mensa is just a cult of pathetic geeks, anyway.
]
]signing up for some cult based on such an absurd
]basis as IQ makes almost as much sense as joining
]a club for people with nine-inch penises.

What luck! I belong to both!

]their quiz is pretty pathetic and practically
]anyone on the net can qualify for 'member'ship
]simply by answering a few bogus questions.

]i bet an IQ of 125 gets you into mensa, and
]anyone with a higher IQ just jeers at the
]pathetic clowns who imagine they're joining
]some kind of elite by joining the premiere
]dicksizing club of america.

Wrong on both counts.

]MENSA--a club composed of coke-bottle-glasses

Nope. Now *Pepsi* bottle glasses...

]geeks, founded by losers, and continued so that

I got more toys than you.

]pitiful little worms can give each other pats
]on the back to console them for never getting
]laid.

Aw-w-w. If you'd only-a asked nicely, we woulda patted you on the back,
too.

It must be tough looking up to us.

Keep trying.

-rw (yes I am. Really)

Alan "Uncle Al" Schwartz

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Jan 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/22/96
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he...@netcom.com (henry) wrote:
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>
>mensa is just a cult of pathetic geeks, anyway.
>
>signing up for some cult based on such an absurd
>basis as IQ makes almost as much sense as joining
>a club for people with nine-inch penises.
9snip)

My boy, rest assured that were one to "join a club for people with
nine-inch penises [sic]" one would be surrounded by people with nine-inch
penes. Mensa works in the parallel manner with 134 and above IQs; ISPE
with 150 and above IQs.

So, what's your point? If you wish to be surrounded by people with low
verbal, logical, and mathematical talents you need only associate with
your ancestors' posterity.


--
Alan "Uncle Al" Schwartz
Uncl...@ix.netcom.com ("zero" before "@")
http://vvv.com/adsint/freehand/uncleal/
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!

(Uncle Al has been Officially convinced to "voluntarily" shut down his
homepage in February. You can own his complete 529 essay collection.
Surf by before it dies!)

henry

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Jan 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/22/96
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mensa is just a cult of pathetic geeks, anyway.

signing up for some cult based on such an absurd
basis as IQ makes almost as much sense as joining
a club for people with nine-inch penises.

their quiz is pretty pathetic and practically

anyone on the net can qualify for 'member'ship
simply by answering a few bogus questions.

i bet an IQ of 125 gets you into mensa, and
anyone with a higher IQ just jeers at the
pathetic clowns who imagine they're joining
some kind of elite by joining the premiere
dicksizing club of america.

MENSA--a club composed of coke-bottle-glasses


geeks, founded by losers, and continued so that

pitiful little worms can give each other pats
on the back to console them for never getting
laid.

h
"When you can't say 'fuck,' you can't say
'Fuck the government.'" -- Lenny Bruce

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Jan 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/22/96
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On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, henry wrote:

> signing up for some cult based on such an absurd
> basis as IQ makes almost as much sense as joining
> a club for people with nine-inch penises.

But I'm enrolled in the latter, in the "Pale & Cut" SIG.

> their quiz is pretty pathetic and practically
> anyone on the net can qualify for 'member'ship
> simply by answering a few bogus questions.

I did! I just don't have $25 to waste on another "psychometric" doodle.

> i bet an IQ of 125 gets you into mensa, and
> anyone with a higher IQ just jeers at the
> pathetic clowns who imagine they're joining
> some kind of elite by joining the premiere
> dicksizing club of america.

No no no, the Dicksizing Club Of America(r) and MENSA are most
assuredly NOT related: we at DCA(r) do indeed possess penises.

> MENSA--a club composed of coke-bottle-glasses
> geeks,

such as TheDavid,

> founded by losers,

such as TheDavid,

> and continued so that pitiful little worms

such as TheDavid,

> can give each other pats on the back

[a little lower please...aaaahhh!]



> to console them for never getting laid.

Hey, just like me! HMMM....


Henry, d00d, can you spare $25?


TheDavid(TM)

cgw...@cyberstore.ca

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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To he...@netcom.com

Gee Henry, I'm sorry you didn't pass the entry qualifications
to either Mensa nor the Nine-Inch Dick Club. Eh? %^>> CG


Henry Lustig

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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On Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:53:01 GMT, he...@netcom.com (henry) wrote:

>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>mensa is just a cult of pathetic geeks, anyway.
>

>signing up for some cult based on such an absurd
>basis as IQ makes almost as much sense as joining
>a club for people with nine-inch penises.
>

>their quiz is pretty pathetic and practically
>anyone on the net can qualify for 'member'ship
>simply by answering a few bogus questions.
>

>i bet an IQ of 125 gets you into mensa, and
>anyone with a higher IQ just jeers at the
>pathetic clowns who imagine they're joining
>some kind of elite by joining the premiere
>dicksizing club of america.
>

>MENSA--a club composed of coke-bottle-glasses

>geeks, founded by losers, and continued so that
>pitiful little worms can give each other pats
>on the back to console them for never getting
>laid.

If you cannot join them-knock them, eh?! You are pathetic!
Henry

hlu...@harborside.com

How can I adapt a creed which, preferring the mud to the
fish, exalts the boorish proletariat above the bourgeois and
the intelligentsia, who with all their faults, are the
quality of life and surely carry the seeds of all human
achievement.

-John Maynard Keynes-

Stephanie Smilay

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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Andrew S. Damick (asda...@unity.ncsu.edu) wrote:
: In alt.fan.the-bob, Alan \"Uncle Al\" Schwartz (uncl...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: : he...@netcom.com (henry) wrote:
: :
: : My boy, rest assured that were one to "join a club for people with
: : nine-inch penises [sic]" one would be surrounded by people with nine-inch
: : penes. Mensa works in the parallel manner with 134 and above IQs; ISPE

[....]

: What astounds me is, when it has been explained to you that you have been
: trolled, you don't laugh at yourself and say, "Good One," or even laugh at
: the troller and say, "What a jerk." Several of you have continued to
: -argue the point-. Which part of "troll" do you not understand?

: As Gard Trask (alt.culture.gard-trask) pointed out to me (alt.fan.the-bob)
: recently, the word "gullible" is, in fact, -not- in the dictionary.

Apparently, neither is the plural of "penis." (Go ahead, Uncle Al, look
it up.)

: The BOB(c)
: --
: - - - - - - - - - - - This is not an advertisement for alt.fan.the-bob.
: The residents there are deranged and mean-spirited individuals who care
: little for common decency. - - - - http://www4.ncsu.edu/~asdamick/aftb/

--
Stephanie

"See Stephanie Smilay for all your unstable molecular needs."

--Robert Adams

Stephen B Streater

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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In article <stephaniD...@netcom.com>, Stephanie Smilay
<mailto:step...@netcom.com> wrote:

> : As Gard Trask (alt.culture.gard-trask) pointed out to me (alt.fan.the-bob)
> : recently, the word "gullible" is, in fact, -not- in the dictionary.

That's because you don't have as big a dic as me -
p 632 of Chambers English Dictionary has gullible (and gullable) under gull(3).

> Apparently, neither is the plural of "penis." (Go ahead, Uncle Al, look
> it up.)

I won't comment on your selection of dics Stephanie, but I will say
"No need" to Al - I've looked it up - and penises and penes are both viable.

--
Stephen B Streater


Jeff Donkersgoed

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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Stephanie Smilay

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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Stephen B Streater (ste...@surprise.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <stephaniD...@netcom.com>, Stephanie Smilay
: <mailto:step...@netcom.com> wrote:

: > : As Gard Trask (alt.culture.gard-trask) pointed out to me (alt.fan.the-bob)
: > : recently, the word "gullible" is, in fact, -not- in the dictionary.

: That's because you don't have as big a dic as me -
: p 632 of Chambers English Dictionary has gullible (and gullable) under gull(3).

No doubt you know the meaning through direct experience.

: > Apparently, neither is the plural of "penis." (Go ahead, Uncle Al, look
: > it up.)

: I won't comment on your selection of dics Stephanie, but I will say
: "No need" to Al - I've looked it up - and penises and penes are both viable.


Yup.

No Value Set

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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On 23 Jan 1996, Andrew S. Damick wrote on "trolling" thusly:

> Even this "TheDavid" fellow got a number of responses, and he's not
> exactly the most adept at the art.

I beg your pardon, you cutesy parvenu! You've already admitted you've
only recently become acquainted with me and my work--when I had some
silly fun on your silly little newsfroup--so you can't possibly know
that most of my posts are trolls and most of them are subtle. You'd do
well, dear boy, to be a bit less *gullible*: if it's from me and *looks*
like a troll it's probably a facet in some major manipulation. Get real!

Your Ecumenical Matriarch,
TheDavid(TM), Lord Of Posts

--

'There Is No Bog But TheDavid, And TheBOB Is A Girlish Twit!'

Dave Budd

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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In article <4e2ifk$2...@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> asda...@unity.ncsu.edu (Andrew S. Damick) writes:
>What's truly amazing to me is that some such as henri can so easily troll
>those who make it their claim to have a large portion of the clues. Even

>this "TheDavid" fellow got a number of responses, and he's not exactly the
>most adept at the art.
>What astounds me is, when it has been explained to you that you have been
>trolled, you don't laugh at yourself and say, "Good One," or even laugh at
>the troller and say, "What a jerk." Several of you have continued to
>-argue the point-. Which part of "troll" do you not understand?

Which part of "net propagation delay" is it that you're having trouble with?
Many won't have seen the expose yet (at the time I post this).
And in the classier newsgroups, it's customary to hide the word troll (or
some similar hint) in the headers, or even in the body. Indeed, in a.f.u.
you have to throw back your catch if you omit this little detail; or you
would if trolling wasn't rather passe/ these days, nobody with any style
would dream of doing it any more. Too much a 1994 kind of thing, dear boy.


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...or something

Dave Budd +44 161 275 6033 fax 6040 D.B...@mcc.ac.uk
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waldby julian f

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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he...@netcom.com (henry) writes:

>i'm nominating myself for Hook, Line & Sinker this month.

I'm nominating you for my killfile.

Julian

Dave Budd

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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In article <4e50ct$5...@news.it.gvsu.edu> brit...@river.it.gvsu.edu (TwisT²) writes:

>zls...@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (Dave Budd) wrote:
>>Which part of "net propagation delay" is it that you're having trouble with?
>>Many won't have seen the expose yet (at the time I post this).

>only the feeds the farthest down the food chain(i.e. bbs's, pc's) will
>have trouble getting a post within 24 hours

I disagree. One of my regular jobs is to post a chart of the F1
championship standings after each race. Last year, about halfway through
the season, I asked people to email me if it took more than 2 days to reach
them: I got about 20 replies, which is probably about a third of the people
who actually want the file at all. One guy waited 2 weeks.
I commonly see posts arrive here that are over 2 days old.
Within a single country, 24 hours is a reasonable expectation, but as soon
as you go elsewhere everything becomes highly variable.

loopy lemon

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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On Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:53:01 GMT, he...@netcom.com (henry) wrote:
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>
>mensa is just a cult of pathetic geeks, anyway.

[snippage]

henri, I think you have some sort of bizarre martyr syndrome that makes
you invite violent, public, attacks upon your self, then scream bloody
murder when people get pissed off and seek retribution. Starting stupid
flame wars does not make you any less of the loser you think you are. Deal
with it.

now repeat after me:

I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.
I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.
I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.
I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.
I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.
I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.
I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.
I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.


Lucie

Michelle Anne Steiner

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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In Article <henriDL...@netcom.com>, he...@netcom.com (henry) wrote:
>mensa is just a cult of pathetic geeks, anyway.

Is not.

>signing up for some cult based on such an absurd
>basis as IQ makes almost as much sense as joining
>a club for people with nine-inch penises.

Jealous because you don't qualify for either?

>their quiz is pretty pathetic and practically
>anyone on the net can qualify for 'member'ship
>simply by answering a few bogus questions.

Please continue; you are demonstrating your ignorance very well. You
obviously have never seen the Mensa tests, or else you are flat-out lying.

>i bet an IQ of 125 gets you into mensa, and
>anyone with a higher IQ just jeers at the
>pathetic clowns who imagine they're joining
>some kind of elite by joining the premiere
>dicksizing club of america.

What is with this penis-size obsession of yours? BTW, an IQ of 125 on which
test? You do know that different tests norm differently and that 125 on one
test might equate to 134 on another, and 137 on yet another, don't you?

>MENSA--a club composed of coke-bottle-glasses
>geeks, founded by losers, and continued so that
>pitiful little worms can give each other pats
>on the back to console them for never getting
>laid.

Come on, Henri; tell us what you really feel.

BTW, you are a superscillious snob who is such a loser that you feel the
need to denigrate that which you are incapable of understanding, in order to
boost your own ego in your own mind. You are a pathetic geek, and should
get a life.

Awaiting your next rant and whine with bated breath. NOT!

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Tejay Murat Sener

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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he...@netcom.com (henry) writes:

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>mensa is just a cult of pathetic geeks, anyway.

I havent seen that many geeks at all. But thats probably because most
geeks grow out of geekness, eventually.

>signing up for some cult based on such an absurd
>basis as IQ makes almost as much sense as joining
>a club for people with nine-inch penises.

Whats the address of that club?
I wanna size up. And where do you start measuring from? Shouldnt it be
that of the length that can penetrate?

>their quiz is pretty pathetic and practically
>anyone on the net can qualify for 'member'ship
>simply by answering a few bogus questions.

That quiz wont get you in. You have to get nervous and do the real thing,
the Cattell tests. At least.

>i bet an IQ of 125 gets you into mensa, and
>anyone with a higher IQ just jeers at the
>pathetic clowns who imagine they're joining
>some kind of elite by joining the premiere
>dicksizing club of america.

IQ of 125 on which test and what scale? Normally 125 wont get you in but
may encourage you to keep trying, and trying, and..

>MENSA--a club composed of coke-bottle-glasses
>geeks, founded by losers, and continued so that
>pitiful little worms can give each other pats
>on the back to console them for never getting
>laid.

Hey I've never needed nor worn prescription glasses (so far).
I tend to win even when I actively sabotage my own efforts.
I havent got a pat on the back yet, maybe backstabbed once or twice, but
no pat on the back yet. And I admit I did get a free lift once, so far.
I dont know about you, but I didn't join the club to get laid! More
likely to lay, but not get laid.

> [ For Public Key: finger he...@netcom.com ]

Preferably with a glove on!!

Tejay.

TwisT²

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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step...@netcom.com (Stephanie Smilay) wrote:

>Apparently, neither is the plural of "penis." (Go ahead, Uncle Al, look
>it up.)

actually that one is, even in this little heavely edited version that
sits around my computer


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The Voodoo Highway

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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On 22 Jan 1996, RossWilymz wrote:

> It must be tough looking up to us.
>
> Keep trying.

I took my 141 and stretched out beyond the confines of this elitist and
bland org. so I would not be structured into thinking that I.Q. meant a
hill of beans next to common sense. True intelligence would dictate that
you would be more open-minded and artistic than judgeMENTAL. I have never
needed any organization to prove my self worth. But then, I am sure I am
inviting some condescending response just for scratching you and your
fellow members pride. No test for that.

G. Mark Stewart

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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henry (he...@netcom.com) wrote:
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: mensa is just a cult of pathetic geeks, anyway.

I'm a rather successful geek, pal.

: signing up for some cult based on such an absurd

: basis as IQ makes almost as much sense as joining
: a club for people with nine-inch penises.

I can be in another club?

: their quiz is pretty pathetic and practically

: anyone on the net can qualify for 'member'ship
: simply by answering a few bogus questions.

: i bet an IQ of 125 gets you into mensa, and


: anyone with a higher IQ just jeers at the
: pathetic clowns who imagine they're joining
: some kind of elite by joining the premiere
: dicksizing club of america.

No, that's the other club. Where the initiation was really fun.

: MENSA--a club composed of coke-bottle-glasses


: geeks, founded by losers, and continued so that
: pitiful little worms can give each other pats
: on the back to console them for never getting
: laid.

I'm sorry, this is "abuse". You want the room two doors down on the left.

GMS
http://www.svs.com/users/gmark

G. Mark Stewart

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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Andrew S. Damick (asda...@unity.ncsu.edu) wrote:
: In alt.fan.the-bob, Alan \"Uncle Al\" Schwartz (uncl...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: : he...@netcom.com (henry) wrote:

[...]

: What astounds me is, when it has been explained to you that you have been


: trolled, you don't laugh at yourself and say, "Good One," or even laugh at
: the troller and say, "What a jerk." Several of you have continued to
: -argue the point-. Which part of "troll" do you not understand?

I feel guilty about heaping abuse on these people.

Especially since they seem to crave more.

GMS
http://www.svs.com/users/gmark

LawyerBoy 1.9

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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In article <zlsiida.26...@fs1.mcc.ac.uk>,
zls...@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (Dave Budd) wrote:

[Wah! I can't spot a troll unless it announces itself! :( ]

>Which part of "net propagation delay" is it that you're having
>trouble with? Many won't have seen the expose yet (at the time I

>post this). And in the classier newsgroups, it's customary to hide

>the word troll (or some similar hint) in the headers, or even in the
>body. Indeed, in a.f.u. you have to throw back your catch if you
>omit this little detail; or you would if trolling wasn't rather
>passe/ these days, nobody with any style would dream of doing it any
>more. Too much a 1994 kind of thing, dear boy.

Passe' or not... how much more obvious could a troll get?
Ferchrissakes, *any* and *every* time someone struts into a newsgroup
and calls the inhabitants thereof a choice number of words and
questions their overall intelligence and motivation for their choice
of reading selections, EXPECT IT TO BE A TROLL!!! If you had an OUNCE
of intelligence, this would have been all the notice you would have
required.

To perpetrate a troll is actually quite simple. For starters, you
could crosspost to the entire alt.sex.* hierarchy proclaiming them all
to be sinners, pedafiles [sic], and sick-O preverts [sic]. This will
undoubtedly erupt in a million followups telling you to go to hell and
not to look in those groups if they offend. This is shooting fish in
a barrel obviously. It's not very sporting at all. But to perpetrate
the same thing upon a group of self-declared geniuses is (or should
be) a bit more challenging. Alas, that is not necessarily the case at
all. Henri is probably not the first to have discovered this I'm
quite sure.

It is absolutely no excuse to say that the post announcing it is a
troll didn't show up yet upon your newsserver. How pathetic that you
think otherwise.

While I'm a little perturbed at dear henri for doing this once
again, I can't say I'm surprised. It's a specialty of his and I don't
dare deny him the pleasure he receives from this experiments.

Next time, just remember the unfailing creedo: If it reads like a
troll, smells like a troll, and irritates like a troll... assume it is
such and leave it BE!


LawyerBoy 1.9 | http://www.neosoft.com/~jjsims/
=================================================
BTW- have you heard about the hazards of DHMO? It's everywhere
dontcha know?

DAMMIT ALL

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On Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:44:53 -0500 The Voodoo Highway (vh...@gate.net) wrote:

: ....judgeMENTAL....

That's "judgmental." And I am, very.

TheDavid(TM)
--
i practice philosophy only in self-defense
I PRACTICE PHILOSOPHY ONLY IN SELF-DEFENSE
(--Gordon Fitch, 11 Jan. 1996)


Bernd Bernie Meyer

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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step...@netcom.com (Stephanie Smilay) writes:

>Andrew S. Damick (asda...@unity.ncsu.edu) wrote:
>: In alt.fan.the-bob, Alan \"Uncle Al\" Schwartz (uncl...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:

>: : My boy, rest assured that were one to "join a club for people with
>: : nine-inch penises [sic]" one would be surrounded by people with nine-inch
>: : penes. Mensa works in the parallel manner with 134 and above IQs; ISPE

>: As Gard Trask (alt.culture.gard-trask) pointed out to me (alt.fan.the-bob)


>: recently, the word "gullible" is, in fact, -not- in the dictionary.

>Apparently, neither is the plural of "penis." (Go ahead, Uncle Al, look
>it up.)

It is. Both of them.

Bernie
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On Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:53:01 GMT, he...@netcom.com (henry) wrote:

>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>mensa is just a cult of pathetic geeks, anyway.
>

>signing up for some cult based on such an absurd
>basis as IQ makes almost as much sense as joining

>a club for people with nine-inch penises.

>
>their quiz is pretty pathetic and practically
>anyone on the net can qualify for 'member'ship
>simply by answering a few bogus questions.
>
>i bet an IQ of 125 gets you into mensa, and
>anyone with a higher IQ just jeers at the
>pathetic clowns who imagine they're joining
>some kind of elite by joining the premiere
>dicksizing club of america.
>

>MENSA--a club composed of coke-bottle-glasses
>geeks, founded by losers, and continued so that
>pitiful little worms can give each other pats
>on the back to console them for never getting
>laid.

If you cannot join them-knock them, eh?! You are pathetic!

Michelle Anne Steiner

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In Article <4e2ifk$2...@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>, asda...@unity.ncsu.edu (Andrew S.

Damick) wrote:
>What's truly amazing to me is that some such as henri can so easily troll
>those who make it their claim to have a large portion of the clues. Even
>this "TheDavid" fellow got a number of responses, and he's not exactly the
>most adept at the art.
>
>What astounds me is, when it has been explained to you that you have been
>trolled, you don't laugh at yourself and say, "Good One," or even laugh at
>the troller and say, "What a jerk." Several of you have continued to
>-argue the point-. Which part of "troll" do you not understand?

By answering a troll as if he were serious, you give him a sense of self
importance and personal worth. this keeps him at his keyboard, typing more
trollish things, and keeps him off the streets away from old ladies and
children.

TwisT²

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zls...@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (Dave Budd) wrote:
>Which part of "net propagation delay" is it that you're having trouble with?
>Many won't have seen the expose yet (at the time I post this).

only the feeds the farthest down the food chain(i.e. bbs's, pc's) will


have trouble getting a post within 24 hours

>And in the classier newsgroups, it's customary to hide the word troll (or

>some similar hint) in the headers, or even in the body. Indeed, in a.f.u.
>you have to throw back your catch if you omit this little detail; or you
>would if trolling wasn't rather passe/ these days, nobody with any style
>would dream of doing it any more. Too much a 1994 kind of thing, dear boy.

is that kind of like you have to explain to the fish what will happen
when they bite the hook then hope they do anyway?

Virginia Krenn

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On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Stephen B Streater wrote:

> I won't comment on your selection of dics Stephanie, but I will say "no

> need" to Al - I've looked it up - and penises and penes are both viable.

Probably not *all* of them. I suspect that if TheDavid's were, he
wouldn't have to spend so much time on foolish endeavors.

Virginia Krenn

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On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, TheDavid wrote:

> that most of my posts are trolls and most of them are subtle. You'd do
> well, dear boy, to be a bit less *gullible*: if it's from me and *looks*
> like a troll it's probably a facet in some major manipulation. Get real!

What a monumental waste of time and effort! Try to find something
constructive to do with your life.

Michelle Anne Steiner

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In Article <henriDL...@netcom.com>, he...@netcom.com (henry) wrote:
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>In article <ant23203...@surprise.demon.co.uk>,

>Stephen B Streater <ste...@surprise.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>In article <stephaniD...@netcom.com>, Stephanie Smilay
>><mailto:step...@netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>> : As Gard Trask (alt.culture.gard-trask) pointed out to me (alt.fan.the-bob)
>>> : recently, the word "gullible" is, in fact, -not- in the dictionary.
>
>>That's because you don't have as big a dic as me -
>>p 632 of Chambers English Dictionary has gullible (and gullable) under
gull(3).
>
>i can not believe this. i had been trolling and claiming
>that mensans were absolute idiots, but i suppose i had
>been overestimating your intelligence.
>
>not only did you guys:
>
>a) fall for an incredibly blatant troll, that SCREAMED
> out that it was a stroll, in fact was the _oldest_
> troll in the book, the 'attack the entire newsgroup'
> ploy;
>
>b) most of you fell for the incredibly childish and
> ancient 'alt.test' trick, older than the joy buzzer;
>
>and
>
>c) even give such a rank troll enough credibility to
> _debate about it_;
>
>but after that, you actually fell for a troll with
>the word 'gullible' in it.
>
>now that takes the cake.

>
>i'm nominating myself for Hook, Line & Sinker this month.

Henry, you have fallen for the second oldest trick in the book: treating a
troller as if he were serious, while laughing at him and his pomposity. you
are actually stupid enough to think that we are treating you seriously and
have really fallen for your troll.

Michelle Anne Steiner

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In Article <4e5s6f$h...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, wal...@glhpx12.cen.uiuc.edu
(waldby julian f) wrote:

>he...@netcom.com (henry) writes:
>
>>not only did you guys:
>
>[....]

>
>>but after that, you actually fell for a troll with
>>the word 'gullible' in it.
>
>>now that takes the cake.
>
>In our next episode, in an effort to outdo even himself, henri threatens
>a bomb attack on the Mensa Headquarters.

If he can find it--even we can't find it any more.

Michelle Anne Steiner

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In Article <Pine.A32.3.91.960124...@seminole.gate.net>, The

You certainly seem to have the need to denigrate others and to express your
uninformed opinion as fact, in order to prove your self worth.

Very few, if any, people stay in Mensa to prove their self worth. Those who
join for that purpose usually don't stay in because they find that it
doesn't prove their self worth--they get treated like the jerks they are, or
can't stand being a small fish in a big pond instead of being a big fish in
a small pond, as they thought they were outside of Mensa.

Those people who say "I joined Mensa and left it because all I found were
self-centered eogmaniacs," or similar expressions, usually found that they
got short shrift when they acted like self-centered egomaniacs.

One way to identify those who try to prove their net worth is to look at
their net.names; if they choose something infantile like "voodo highway,"
chances are they are so trying.

henry

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In article <4e5s6f$h...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
waldby julian f <wal...@glhpx12.cen.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>he...@netcom.com (henry) writes:

>In our next episode, in an effort to outdo even himself, henri threatens
>a bomb attack on the Mensa Headquarters.

hey, dipshit, you just killfiled me last post.

oh well, i guess you were lying.

liar, liar, pants on fire.

>Stay tuned...

>Julian

BLOW UP YOUR LOCAL JULIAN WALDBY TODAY!
h
"When you can't say 'fuck,' you can't say
'Fuck the government.'" -- Lenny Bruce

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On 24 Jan 1996, loopy lemon wrote:

> henri, I think you have some sort of bizarre martyr syndrome that makes
> you invite violent, public, attacks upon your self, then scream bloody
> murder when people get pissed off and seek retribution.

NO NO NO. As an up-&-cumming troller myself I can assure you, Lucie, that
once again you have it all wrong--as when you mistook a death threat for
a seduction attempt. (Of course I know why, u gorgeous celibate u, but I
won't announce it to dem certified jeenyses on r.o.m.) Henri, like myself,
ain't hurt from the responses he elicits: he smirks and feels superior to
the morons who fall for it, and gets the same kind of ego-boost fucking
the head cheerleader back in high school gave any bright nerdy geek.

> Starting stupid flame wars does not make you any less of the loser you
> think you are. Deal with it.

Loosey, c'mon, misconstruing the motives & actions of men does not make
you any more intellectual than any other non-slut. Absorb that fact.

> now repeat after me:
>
> I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS. [typically female reiteration snipped]

Of course not cuz *I* am! (And you love me for it don't you?)


TheDavid(TM)

The Voodoo Highway

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On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Michelle Anne Steiner wrote:
> You certainly seem to have the need to denigrate others and to express your
> uninformed opinion as fact, in order to prove your self worth.
Why would I bother to reply at all if my opinion was uninformed?
And why would you think that I needed this opinion to prove anything?
I have to wonder why my uninformed opinion bothered you so much.

>
> Those people who say "I joined Mensa and left it because all I
found were
> self-centered eogmaniacs," or similar expressions, usually found that they
> got short shrift when they acted like self-centered egomaniacs.

And some people form uninformed opinions by replying to other opinions.
Very disheartening to see you pass judgement so quickly. I spent 5 years
in MENSA before forming my opinion. How much time did you spend on my
reply before passing judgement?

>
> One way to identify those who try to prove their net worth is to look at
> their net.names; if they choose something infantile like "voodo highway,"
> chances are they are so trying.

You know nothing of what you speak. This is glaringly apparent.
But then you are consistent in your passing of judgement so quickly. Got
a license for speeding or just stating an OPINION?

Tim Worstall

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Jan 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/25/96
to uncl...@ix.netcom.com
Alan \"Uncle Al\" Schwartz <uncl...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>he...@netcom.com (henry) wrote:
>>>mensa is just a cult of pathetic geeks, anyway.
>>
>>signing up for some cult based on such an absurd
>>basis as IQ makes almost as much sense as joining
>>a club for people with nine-inch penises.
>9snip)
>
>My boy, rest assured that were one to "join a club for people with
>nine-inch penises [sic]" one would be surrounded by people with nine-inch
>penes. Mensa works in the parallel manner with 134 and above IQs; ISPE
>with 150 and above IQs.
>
Changing the subject rather I know, and possibly not for this type of
news group, but has anybody medically knowledgeable ever done the
mathematics on penis size, blood volume and blood pressure ? As I am sure
we all know, an erection is caused by a vascular (?) constriction that
leads to more blood remaining in the penis than leaving it, thus
inflating the tissue . ( I know that this is terminologically incorrect,
but it's something like this .) Thus the dire effects that alchohol, beta
blockers and other drugs affecting blood pressure can have.
But given the constraints of the system, that of blood volume of the
individual, likely blood pressure and the volume of blood that must be
used to make the tissue erect, what is the maximum size possible before
the guy keels over in a faint every time he gets an erection ?
The correct mathematical answer to this would be, if not useful, at least
an interesting way of sorting the Satyrs from the Dreamers. At least we
would know whether the 9 inch club ( or is it 12? or 20 ? thus the q) was
fertile or not.
Yrs from sunny Moscow.
Tim Worstall
>


--
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schools and orphanages.
"The next time you clear out your bookcase, slip a few paperbacks into a
stout envelope and send them via snail mail to :
Tim Worstall, International Centre for Scientific and Technical
Information, 21 B Kuusinena ul, Moscow, 252125, Russia."

Sean Sheehan

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Jan 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/25/96
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loopy suggests that henri lament:

>I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.
>I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.
>I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.
>I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.
>I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.
>I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.
>I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.
>I AM NOT THE .NET JESUS.

that's hitting the nail on the head.

-S.
not cross. not really.

"A dilettante guitarist owns a Fender but plays it sitting down"

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henry

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In article <lmm5-24019...@132.236.111.37>,
loopy lemon <lm...@cornell.edu> wrote:


> On Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:53:01 GMT, he...@netcom.com (henry) wrote:
>> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

> >mensa is just a cult of pathetic geeks, anyway.

>henri, I think you have some sort of bizarre martyr syndrome that makes


>you invite violent, public, attacks upon your self, then scream bloody

>murder when people get pissed off and seek retribution. Starting stupid


>flame wars does not make you any less of the loser you think you are. Deal
>with it.

no, i have no intention of screaming bloody murder about
being attacked by a pack of geeks. after all, admit it,
they're pathetic. they'll even fall for a troll from
someone calling himself 'the bob' who even includes the
word 'gullible' IN THE TROLL ITSELF.

i honestly didn't expect quite such a response from such
a blatantly obvious troll--promise.

i assumed that a bunch of self-proclaimed geniuses could
recognize an obvious troll, especially when it included
'alt.test' in the Newsgroup: line.

i honestly didn't know that people who belong to mensa
are, in fact, the absolute drooling cretins i had said
they were, and had expected one, or perhaps two responses
to my post, which screamed and howled 'TROLL.'

i did not expect to swamp the group with followups.

i _promise_ that i will not _EVER_ swamp alt.angst
again with followups from pathetic idiots.

i have learned my lesson.

any society which claims to be populated by geniuses
in, in fact, populated by room-temperature IQ morons
with a sense of self-aggrandizement.

MENSA, obviously, fits this bill, as their net-literate
members fell, again and again, even after it was pointed
out to them, for the most blatant troll imaginable.

h
"When you can't say 'fuck,' you can't say
'Fuck the government.'" -- Lenny Bruce

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TwisT²

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zls...@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (Dave Budd) wrote:


>I disagree. One of my regular jobs is to post a chart of the F1
>championship standings after each race. Last year, about halfway through
>the season, I asked people to email me if it took more than 2 days to reach
>them: I got about 20 replies, which is probably about a third of the people
>who actually want the file at all. One guy waited 2 weeks.
>I commonly see posts arrive here that are over 2 days old.
>Within a single country, 24 hours is a reasonable expectation, but as soon
>as you go elsewhere everything becomes highly variable.

this is true, i have not compaired the time stamps on many out of U.S
posters, an appology.(or am i supposed to flame you for that? i get so
confused)

Stephen B Streater

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Jan 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/25/96
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In article <4e7qi5$u...@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>, Andrew S. Damick
<mailto:asda...@unity.ncsu.edu> wrote:
>
> In alt.fan.the-bob, Michelle Anne Steiner (ste...@best.com) wrote:
>
> : Henry, you have fallen for the second oldest trick in the book: treating a

> : troller as if he were serious, while laughing at him and his pomposity. you
> : are actually stupid enough to think that we are treating you seriously and
> : have really fallen for your troll.
>
> Ah, yes, the meta-troll, in which the wise man with net.savvy spots a
> troll then acts as if he was caught by it, all the time using his being
> caught as a troll to the original troller.
>
> Interesting concept, mainly because it's a failsafe argument for falling
> for a troll in actuality.

I thought everything on rom was a troll. It definitely has that sort
of surreal "what point is (s)he really trying to make" feel about it.

--
Stephen B Streater


Stephanie Smilay

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Jan 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/25/96
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No One You Know (me...@infohwy.com) wrote:
: In article <henriDL...@netcom.com>,
: he...@netcom.com (henry) gets my hopes up:

: >i _promise_ that i will not _EVER_ swamp alt.angst


: >again with followups from pathetic idiots.

: I suddenly feel like breaking into a rousing chorus of "Ding! Dong! The
: witch is dead. Which oh which? The wicked witch! Ding! Dong! The
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I have always thought it was "which OLD witch?"
--
Stephanie

"See Stephanie Smilay for all your unstable molecular needs."

--Robert Adams

Lucilia cuprina

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Jan 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/25/96
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.960125...@clark.net>, No Value
Set <thed...@clark.net> wrote:

> On 24 Jan 1996, loopy lemon wrote:

> NO NO NO. As an up-&-cumming troller myself I can assure you, Lucie, that
> once again you have it all wrong--as when you mistook a death threat for
> a seduction attempt. (Of course I know why, u gorgeous celibate u, but I
> won't announce it to dem certified jeenyses on r.o.m.) Henri, like myself,
> ain't hurt from the responses he elicits: he smirks and feels superior to
> the morons who fall for it, and gets the same kind of ego-boost fucking
> the head cheerleader back in high school gave any bright nerdy geek.

I never said he was hurt by it. I just said he got off on the attention,
and his pose of indignance about being attacked is all part of the act. of
course, in the case of the scientology debacle, he has every right to be
indignant, but that's beside the point.



> > Starting stupid flame wars does not make you any less of the loser you
> > think you are. Deal with it.

> Loosey, c'mon, misconstruing the motives & actions of men does not make
> you any more intellectual than any other non-slut. Absorb that fact.

true, my mental prowess alone takes care of that.

Lucie

TwisT²

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ste...@best.com (Michelle Anne Steiner) wrote:

>By answering a troll as if he were serious, you give him a sense of self
>importance and personal worth. this keeps him at his keyboard, typing more
>trollish things, and keeps him off the streets away from old ladies and
>children.

now this is an argument i have yet to run accross, valid too

Stephen B Streater

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In article <henriDL...@netcom.com>, henry

<mailto:he...@netcom.com> wrote:
>
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> ...

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--
Stephen B Streater


Stephen B Streater

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In article <steiner.1...@NNTP.BEST.COM>, Michelle Anne Steiner

<mailto:ste...@best.com> wrote:
>
> In Article <4e5s6f$h...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, wal...@glhpx12.cen.uiuc.edu
> (waldby julian f) wrote:
> >he...@netcom.com (henry) writes:
> >
> >>not only did you guys:
> >
> >[....]
> >
> >>but after that, you actually fell for a troll with
> >>the word 'gullible' in it.
> >
> >>now that takes the cake.
> >
> >In our next episode, in an effort to outdo even himself, henri threatens
> >a bomb attack on the Mensa Headquarters.
>
> If he can find it--even we can't find it any more.

A bit like Tokto being designed like a maze to confuse
invading armies.

--
Stephen B Streater


LawyerBoy 1.9

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Jan 25, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/25/96
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In article <4e6pjd$f...@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>,
bla...@ix.netcom.com (blake murphy) wrote:

>jjs...@sam.neosoft.com (LawyerBoy 1.9) wrote:

Hey good job Blake! You managed to quote the *entire* post in order
to make an inaccurate WOLF. Congratulations, m'boy!

>yep, i wish i was smart like you and your boy henri, who evidently do
>the same lame thing over and over for yucks.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
See? This is where you are wrong. I'm not guilty of trolling (save a
certain incident back in May '95). Regardless, it should still be
obvious when you are facing a troll such as henri's. No excuses.

>cheer up, the three stooges are coming back to cable.

Whatever.

LawyerBoy 1.9 | http://www.neosoft.com/~jjsims/
=================================================

jjs...@stcl.edu | jjs...@neosoft.com

spu...@agt.net

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>,
loopy lemon <lm...@cornell.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:53:01 GMT, he...@netcom.com (henry) wrote:
>> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

> >mensa is just a cult of pathetic geeks, anyway.

>henri, I think you have some sort of bizarre martyr syndrome that makes
>you invite violent, public, attacks upon your self, then scream bloody

>murder when people get pissed off and seek retribution. Starting stupid


>flame wars does not make you any less of the loser you think you are. Deal
>with it.


Yeah, amen to that! Besides, I have heard about this MENSA group
thingie and I have always been pretty impressed with what I heard.
They *are* mental giants is what I have heard.

I must admit...I have always been intimidated by their ilk.... too
intimidated to even lurk at their newsgroup thingie.

But geez Louise...They are here!! They have come to us!!

This is an opportunity of a lifetime man! We have the most
intelligent people in the world..visiting US! And all we do is
exchange this verbal warfare...

Well (huff) I for one am not going to squander this opportunity
to hear from the greats.

Michelle...and the rest of you from MENSA, please, please
go ahead...don't let anyone around angst here get you
in a tizzy.

I'm here, a humble admirer...so go ahead...please just one for me
.....go ahead say something intelligent....pretty please?

>i did not expect to swamp the group with followups.

Are you sure about that?....When has that NOT happened?

>i _promise_ that i will not _EVER_ swamp alt.angst
>again with followups from pathetic idiots.

How about if you promise something you have control over...
mebbe don't put alt.angst as one of the newsgroups on your trolls?

>i have learned my lesson.

No you haven't...look, see here, what you say below unto Michelle
Steiner and others at MENSA:

>any society which claims to be populated by geniuses
>in, in fact, populated by room-temperature IQ morons
>with a sense of self-aggrandizement.

>MENSA, obviously, fits this bill, as their net-literate
>members fell, again and again, even after it was pointed
>out to them, for the most blatant troll imaginable.

(tsk tsk, more trolling)

Go ahead...tell us the truth...you want her.

C.


DAMMIT ALL

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On Wed, 24 Jan 96 05:02:17 GMT Michelle Anne Steiner (ste...@best.com) wrote:

[*swoosh*]

: You are a pathetic geek, and should get a life.
:
: Awaiting your next rant and whine with bated breath. NOT!

She claims to be in Mensa and her home page says she's 53 and
she STILL comes out with silly-ass juvenalia like this?

SHEESH.

TheDavid(TM)

--
i practice philosophy only in self-defense
I PRACTICE PHILOSOPHY ONLY IN SELF-DEFENSE
(--Gordon Fitch, 11 Jan. 1996)


Dave Budd

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In article <4e6879$9...@uuneo.neosoft.com> jjs...@sam.neosoft.com (LawyerBoy 1.9) writes:
>In article <zlsiida.26...@fs1.mcc.ac.uk>,
> zls...@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (Dave Budd) wrote:

>[Wah! I can't spot a troll unless it announces itself! :( ]

Now I never said that, largely because it isn't true. Do try to read the
posts properly, you'll find it helps enormously.

>It is absolutely no excuse to say that the post announcing it is a
>troll didn't show up yet upon your newsserver. How pathetic that you
>think otherwise.

My mention of propagation delay was in reply to a complaint that people
still responded after they'd been told it was a troll. It was never an
excuse for them biting on the hook in the first place. With the level of
reading comprehension you're exhibiting here, maybe you shouldn't try to get
into a secondary school that uses an exam to select its intake.

Hope this helps.

--
...or something

Dave Budd +44 161 275 6033 fax 6040 D.B...@mcc.ac.uk
http://www.man.ac.uk:80/~zlsiida (getting better!)

blake murphy

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jjs...@sam.neosoft.com (LawyerBoy 1.9) wrote:

>In article <zlsiida.26...@fs1.mcc.ac.uk>,
> zls...@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (Dave Budd) wrote:

>[Wah! I can't spot a troll unless it announces itself! :( ]

>>Which part of "net propagation delay" is it that you're having

>>trouble with? Many won't have seen the expose yet (at the time I

>>post this). And in the classier newsgroups, it's customary to hide

>>the word troll (or some similar hint) in the headers, or even in the
>>body. Indeed, in a.f.u. you have to throw back your catch if you
>>omit this little detail; or you would if trolling wasn't rather
>>passe/ these days, nobody with any style would dream of doing it any
>>more. Too much a 1994 kind of thing, dear boy.

>Passe' or not... how much more obvious could a troll get?
>Ferchrissakes, *any* and *every* time someone struts into a newsgroup
>and calls the inhabitants thereof a choice number of words and
>questions their overall intelligence and motivation for their choice
>of reading selections, EXPECT IT TO BE A TROLL!!! If you had an OUNCE
>of intelligence, this would have been all the notice you would have
>required.

>To perpetrate a troll is actually quite simple. For starters, you
>could crosspost to the entire alt.sex.* hierarchy proclaiming them all
>to be sinners, pedafiles [sic], and sick-O preverts [sic]. This will
>undoubtedly erupt in a million followups telling you to go to hell and
>not to look in those groups if they offend. This is shooting fish in
>a barrel obviously. It's not very sporting at all. But to perpetrate
>the same thing upon a group of self-declared geniuses is (or should
>be) a bit more challenging. Alas, that is not necessarily the case at
>all. Henri is probably not the first to have discovered this I'm
>quite sure.

>It is absolutely no excuse to say that the post announcing it is a
>troll didn't show up yet upon your newsserver. How pathetic that you
>think otherwise.

>While I'm a little perturbed at dear henri for doing this once
>again, I can't say I'm surprised. It's a specialty of his and I don't
>dare deny him the pleasure he receives from this experiments.

>Next time, just remember the unfailing creedo: If it reads like a
>troll, smells like a troll, and irritates like a troll... assume it is
>such and leave it BE!


>LawyerBoy 1.9 | http://www.neosoft.com/~jjsims/

yep, i wish i was smart like you and your boy henri, who evidently do
the same lame thing over and over for yucks.

cheer up, the three stooges are coming back to cable.

your pal,
blake


waldby julian f

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he...@netcom.com (henry) writes:

>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

>In article <4e5s6f$h...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,


>waldby julian f <wal...@glhpx12.cen.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>he...@netcom.com (henry) writes:

>>In our next episode, in an effort to outdo even himself, henri threatens
>>a bomb attack on the Mensa Headquarters.

>hey, dipshit, you just killfiled me last post.

>oh well, i guess you were lying.

>liar, liar, pants on fire.

No I didn't, I just _nominated_ you for my killfile. I have an elaborate system
of checks and balances, and the motion didn't get through this time, because
it was killed by a 56-28 vote in the senate (not all my senators are present
all the time).

Maybe next time. But I doubt it, because I don't have a killfile, except
to clear some of the more tedious subjects.

Ha ha sucker.

Julian

blake murphy

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jjs...@sam.neosoft.com (LawyerBoy 1.9) wrote:

>In article <4e6pjd$f...@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>,
> bla...@ix.netcom.com (blake murphy) wrote:

>>jjs...@sam.neosoft.com (LawyerBoy 1.9) wrote:

>Hey good job Blake! You managed to quote the *entire* post in order
>to make an inaccurate WOLF. Congratulations, m'boy!

i was hoping you hadda pay by the word.

>>yep, i wish i was smart like you and your boy henri, who evidently do
>>the same lame thing over and over for yucks.

>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>See? This is where you are wrong. I'm not guilty of trolling (save a
>certain incident back in May '95). Regardless, it should still be
>obvious when you are facing a troll such as henri's. No excuses.

i'll confess i haven't paying complete attention to your net career
since may of '95. matter of fact, my interest is flagging already.

>>cheer up, the three stooges are coming back to cable.

>Whatever.

>LawyerBoy 1.9 | http://www.neosoft.com/~jjsims/

whoever.

your pal,
blake


G. Mark Stewart

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cgw...@cyberstore.ca wrote:

: To he...@netcom.com

: Gee Henry, I'm sorry you didn't pass the entry qualifications
: to either Mensa nor the Nine-Inch Dick Club. Eh? %^>> CG

I figured he was at least that tall.

GMS
http://www.svs.com/users/gmark

sine nomine

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Jan 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/26/96
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loopy lemon wrote:

: henri, I think you have some sort of bizarre martyr syndrome that makes


: you invite violent, public, attacks upon your self, then scream bloody
: murder when people get pissed off and seek retribution. Starting stupid
: flame wars does not make you any less of the loser you think you are. Deal
: with it.

this is news?

--
sine | deb
in a nasty mood

G. Mark Stewart

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The Voodoo Highway (vh...@gate.net) wrote:
: On 22 Jan 1996, RossWilymz wrote:

: > It must be tough looking up to us.
: >
: > Keep trying.
: I took my 141 and stretched out beyond the confines of this elitist and
: bland org. so I would not be structured into thinking that I.Q. meant a
: hill of beans next to common sense. True intelligence would dictate that
: you would be more open-minded and artistic than judgeMENTAL. I have never
: needed any organization to prove my self worth. But then, I am sure I am
: inviting some condescending response just for scratching you and your
: fellow members pride. No test for that.

There must be a reason that compelled you to share that.

Excessive security is probably not it.

GMS
http://www.svs.com/users/gmark

Michelle Anne Steiner

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Jan 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/26/96
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In Article
<Pine.ULT.3.91.960124...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu>, Virginia
Krenn <asd...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu> wrote:
>> I won't comment on your selection of dics Stephanie, but I will say "no
>> need" to Al - I've looked it up - and penises and penes are both viable.
>
>Probably not *all* of them. I suspect that if TheDavid's were, he
>wouldn't have to spend so much time on foolish endeavors.

hey, lay off theDavid; he told me that I'm not bad looking for a woman old
enough to be his mother.

Michelle Anne Steiner

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In Article <4e748l$b...@news.gvsu.edu>, brit...@river.it.gvsu.edu (TwisT<)

wrote:
>>By answering a troll as if he were serious, you give him a sense of self
>>importance and personal worth. this keeps him at his keyboard, typing more
>>trollish things, and keeps him off the streets away from old ladies and
>>children.
>
>now this is an argument i have yet to run accross, valid too

It comes from living long and being a cunning, conniving bitch.

DAMMIT ALL

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On 24 Jan 1996 Virginia Krenn (asd...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu) wrote to me:

[re my trollish postings]

: What a monumental waste of time and effort! Try to find something
: constructive to do with your life.

You mean like buttfucking Okies? AGAIN?

Virginia Krenn

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On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Stephanie Smilay wrote:
> No One You Know (me...@infohwy.com) wrote:

>: I suddenly feel like breaking into a rousing chorus of "Ding! Dong! The
>: witch is dead. Which oh which? The wicked witch! Ding! Dong! The
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I have always thought it was "which OLD witch?"

Right you are, Stephanie. I had noticed that, too, and also thought about
posting the correction--but didn't. However, now that you have, I'll add
the following comment. An entire day of shooting was lost because of
that song. The "munchkins" were an ornery lot and deliberately sang the
wrong words. It wasn't until the rushes were in that it was discovered
that they had been singing: "Ding, Dong. The bitch is dead. Which old
bitch? The wicked bitch! Ding, Dong. The wicked bitch is dead." The
entire scene had to be reshot the next day.

Michelle Anne Steiner

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Jan 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/27/96
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In Article <4e9c46$j...@news.agt.net>, spu...@agt.net wrote:
>Yeah, amen to that! Besides, I have heard about this MENSA group
>thingie and I have always been pretty impressed with what I heard.
>They *are* mental giants is what I have heard.

No, we're not--a bit taller than average, perhaps, but definitely not giants.

<...>

>No you haven't...look, see here, what you say below unto Michelle
>Steiner and others at MENSA:
>
>>any society which claims to be populated by geniuses
>>in, in fact, populated by room-temperature IQ morons
>>with a sense of self-aggrandizement.
>
>>MENSA, obviously, fits this bill, as their net-literate
>>members fell, again and again, even after it was pointed
>>out to them, for the most blatant troll imaginable.
>
>(tsk tsk, more trolling)
>
>Go ahead...tell us the truth...you want her.

<giggle> Well, he can't have me; I'm already spoken for--twice.

Michelle Anne Steiner

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Jan 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/27/96
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In Article <stephaniD...@netcom.com>, step...@netcom.com (Stephanie

Smilay) wrote:
>No One You Know (me...@infohwy.com) wrote:
>: In article <henriDL...@netcom.com>,
>: he...@netcom.com (henry) gets my hopes up:
>
>: >i _promise_ that i will not _EVER_ swamp alt.angst

>: >again with followups from pathetic idiots.
>
>: I suddenly feel like breaking into a rousing chorus of "Ding! Dong! The
>: witch is dead. Which oh which? The wicked witch! Ding! Dong! The
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>I have always thought it was "which OLD witch?"

Well, what do you expect from a know-it-all like Melia? Wanna bet she says
she did it deliberately as a troll?

RossWilymz

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Jan 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/27/96
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In article <Pine.A32.3.91.960125...@hopi.gate.net> you
wrote:
: On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Michelle Anne Steiner wrote:
: > You certainly seem to have the need to denigrate others and to express
your
: > uninformed opinion as fact, in order to prove your self worth.

: Why would I bother to reply at all if my opinion was uninformed?

"Cuz that's the way you are."

: And why would you think that I needed this opinion to prove anything?
: I have to wonder why my uninformed opinion bothered you so much.

It doesn't. Steiner's our version of John McLaughlin. It doesn't matter
what your opinion is; it will be quibbled.

: > Those people who say "I joined Mensa and left it because all I
: found were
: > self-centered eogmaniacs," or similar expressions, usually found that
they
: > got short shrift when they acted like self-centered egomaniacs.

: And some people form uninformed opinions by replying to other opinions.

How ironic of you to say so.

: Very disheartening to see you pass judgement so quickly. I spent 5 years

: in MENSA before forming my opinion. How much time did you spend on my
: reply before passing judgement?

A lot longer than that. Apart from playing John McLaughlin, Steiner is
also our Nostradamus: your opinions were expected for a v-e-r-y long time.

And it's 'judgment'.

: > One way to identify those who try to prove their net worth is to look
at
: > their net.names; if they choose something infantile like "voodo
highway,"
: > chances are they are so trying.

: You know nothing of what you speak. This is glaringly apparent.

"Wrong!"

"Issue two..."

: But then you are consistent in your passing of judgement so quickly.
Got
: a license for speeding or just stating an OPINION?

It's *still* 'judgment'.

-Freddie "The Beatle" Barnes

waldby julian f

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Jan 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/27/96
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rossw...@aol.com (RossWilymz) writes:

>: in MENSA before forming my opinion. How much time did you spend on my
>: reply before passing judgement?

>A lot longer than that. Apart from playing John McLaughlin, Steiner is
>also our Nostradamus: your opinions were expected for a v-e-r-y long time.

>And it's 'judgment'.

>It's *still* 'judgment'.

>-Freddie "The Beatle" Barnes

Alright, let's settle this once and for all, Beatle. Get out your dictionary.
Open it. Look in the j's. under judgment.

Read the header. If it is the Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary, like
mine, or I assume any other reputable dictionary, it will say,

judgment or judgement

Either is correct. I personally opt for the one which looks better to me,
judgement. I am not wrong in doing this.

Be informed.

Julian

G. Mark Stewart

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No Value Set (thed...@clark.net) wrote:


: On 24 Jan 1996, loopy lemon wrote:

: > henri, I think you have some sort of bizarre martyr syndrome that makes
: > you invite violent, public, attacks upon your self, then scream bloody
: > murder when people get pissed off and seek retribution.

: NO NO NO. As an up-&-cumming troller myself I can assure you, Lucie, that


: once again you have it all wrong--as when you mistook a death threat for
: a seduction attempt. (Of course I know why, u gorgeous celibate u, but I
: won't announce it to dem certified jeenyses on r.o.m.) Henri, like myself,
: ain't hurt from the responses he elicits: he smirks and feels superior to
: the morons who fall for it, and gets the same kind of ego-boost fucking

I suppose you've run out of self-respect to be damaged.

Sort of sad to have to point it out yourself, tho'.

GMS
http://www.svs.com/users/gmark

G. Mark Stewart

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Jan 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/27/96
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Stephen B Streater (ste...@surprise.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <4e7qi5$u...@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>, Andrew S. Damick
: <mailto:asda...@unity.ncsu.edu> wrote:

[...]

: > Interesting concept, mainly because it's a failsafe argument for falling


: > for a troll in actuality.

: I thought everything on rom was a troll. It definitely has that sort
: of surreal "what point is (s)he really trying to make" feel about it.

The FAQ is to be taken literally for the most part.

GMS
http://www.svs.com/users/gmark

Stephen B Streater

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In article <DLuJv...@grayfox.svs.com>, G. Mark Stewart

That's where I read it.

--
Stephen B Streater


Michelle Anne Steiner

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Jan 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/27/96
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In Article <4ecqk8$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, rossw...@aol.com

(RossWilymz) wrote:
>: in MENSA before forming my opinion. How much time did you spend on my
>: reply before passing judgement?
>
>A lot longer than that. Apart from playing John McLaughlin, Steiner is
>also our Nostradamus: your opinions were expected for a v-e-r-y long time.
>
>And it's 'judgment'.

Akshully, both spellings are correct.

Virginia Krenn

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Jan 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/27/96
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On 27 Jan 1996, Ignatz wrote:

> I had always thought that Mensa required a 150 IQ.

It is if you're using the Cattell test. Also, not all Mensans are at the
minimum entry level score. Some of us even belong to multiple high IQ
organizations.

No Value Set

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[Carefully annotated so even the Mensans might understand it.]


> On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Stephen B Streater wrote:
>
> > I won't comment on your selection of dics Stephanie, but I will say "no
> > need" to Al - I've looked it up - and penises and penes are both viable.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
To which on Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Virginia Krenn replied:

> Probably not *all* of them. I suspect that if TheDavid's [penis] were,
> he wouldn't have to spend so much time on foolish endeavors [my trolls].

OH VIRGINIA BABY!

One of you *nice* angsters better warn this genius before
she *really* turns me on. "Foolish endeavors" indeed!


TheDavid(TM)


P.S. The implication, Ginny dearest, is that "fightin' words"
*arouse* me into a "frenzy of passion." See?

No Value Set

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Jan 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/27/96
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On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, G. Mark Stewart replied to my
post about the whys & wherefores of trolling:


> I suppose you've run out of self-respect to be damaged.

Listen MORON, I'm full of self-respect: I respect myself
so much that I have no need for YOUR respect. I.e. grab
your blunt pencil--no, the _wood-and-*graphite* one_ and
write this down:

David Says: ( <--so you don't confusedly credit yourself with thoughts)

I do not need you to respect me in order to respect myself.
I do not need to depend on your opinion of me.
I do not give a shit what an idiot like you thinks of me.

[I could rephrase this 1000s of ways till you get it, but I won't.]

> Sort of sad to have to point it out yourself, tho'.

Gmark, you're too stupid even to piss on. Eat shit & die.


TheDavid(TM)


No Value Set

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Jan 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/27/96
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On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Michelle Anne Steiner wrote:

> >And it's 'judgment'.
>
> Akshully, both spellings are correct.

But 'judgment' is CORRECTER!


TheDavid(TM)

---

"I feel the pain of a broken heart...
and then I feel nothing..."

No Value Set

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On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, G. Mark Stewart wrote:

> The FAQ is to be taken literally for the most part.


Um...AHEM... *F*U*C*K* *T*H*E* *F*A*Q*!*


TheDavid(TM)

Ubiquitous

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Jan 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/28/96
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In article <4e8qpv$g...@clarknet.clark.net>, thed...@clark.net (DAMMIT ALL) says:

>On Wed, 24 Jan 96 05:02:17 GMT Mike Steiner (ste...@best.com) wrote:

>: You are a pathetic geek, and should get a life.
>:
>: Awaiting your next rant and whine with bated breath. NOT!
>
>She claims to be in Mensa and her home page says she's 53 and
>she STILL comes out with silly-ass juvenalia like this?
>
>SHEESH.

You failed to realize Mike's a transsexual, which makes his claims
ever more ridiculous, especially if you take a look at his pictures
on his web page and see how much they botched the job.

Never cut corners on a doctor.

--
"I remember my first sexual encounter because I kept the recipe."
- Jeff Dahmer

G. Mark Stewart

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Jan 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/28/96
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Virginia Krenn (asd...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu) wrote:
: On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, TheDavid wrote:

: > that most of my posts are trolls and most of them are subtle. You'd do
: > well, dear boy, to be a bit less *gullible*: if it's from me and *looks*
: > like a troll it's probably a facet in some major manipulation. Get real!

: What a monumental waste of time and effort! Try to find something
: constructive to do with your life.


So in other words, TheDavid is not just stupid, he has made it a
consuming passion in life in which he cannot help but excel.

GMS
http://www.svs.com/users/gmark

Michelle Anne Steiner

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Jan 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/28/96
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In Article <4eejro$3...@server.cntfl.com>, web...@polaris.net (asshole) wrote:
>In article <4e8qpv$g...@clarknet.clark.net>, thed...@clark.net (DAMMIT ALL)
says:
>>On Wed, 24 Jan 96 05:02:17 GMT Michelle Anne Steiner (ste...@best.com) wrote:
>
>>: You are a pathetic geek, and should get a life.
>>:
>>: Awaiting your next rant and whine with bated breath. NOT!
>>
>>She claims to be in Mensa and her home page says she's 53 and
>>she STILL comes out with silly-ass juvenalia like this?
>>
>>SHEESH.
>
>You failed to realize Mike's a transsexual, which makes his claims
>ever more ridiculous, especially if you take a look at his pictures
>on his web page and see how much they botched the job.

It seems that the doctor forgot to keep your brains when he delivered you.

>Never cut corners on a doctor.

You're living proof of that, dipshit.

Michelle Anne Steiner

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Jan 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/28/96
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In Article
<Pine.ULT.3.91.960127...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu>, Virginia

Krenn <asd...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu> wrote:
>> I had always thought that Mensa required a 150 IQ.
>
>It is if you're using the Cattell test.

148, actually. <g>

>Also, not all Mensans are at the
>minimum entry level score. Some of us even belong to multiple high IQ
>organizations.

Yeah, I have multiple high IQ's. <giggle>

Stephen B Streater

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Jan 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/28/96
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In article <4eejro$3...@server.cntfl.com>, Ubiquitous

<mailto:web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
> In article <4e8qpv$g...@clarknet.clark.net>, thed...@clark.net (DAMMIT ALL) says:
> >On Wed, 24 Jan 96 05:02:17 GMT Mike Steiner (ste...@best.com) wrote:
>
> >: You are a pathetic geek, and should get a life.
> >:
> >: Awaiting your next rant and whine with bated breath. NOT!
> >
> >She claims to be in Mensa and her home page says she's 53 and
> >she STILL comes out with silly-ass juvenalia like this?
> >
> >SHEESH.
>
> You failed to realize Mike's a transsexual...

You're scraping the barrel now, I see.

--
Stephen B Streater


Virginia Krenn

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On 27 Jan 1996, DAMMIT ALL wrote:

> On 24 Jan 1996 Virginia Krenn (asd...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu) wrote:

>: What a monumental waste of time and effort! Try to find something
>: constructive to do with your life.

> You mean like buttfucking Okies? AGAIN?

Whatever tickes your fancy. There are probably some members of the
homosexual community who might be willing to oblige you.
Even though I did not respond to your stupid trolls, you'd have to be
pretty dumb to not have realized that those who did respond were having
sport with you. It should have been obvious to anyone with even a modicum
of intelligence.

No Value Set

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Jan 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/28/96
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On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Virginia Krenn wrote:

> On 27 Jan 1996, DAMMIT ALL wrote:
> > On 24 Jan 1996 Virginia Krenn (asd...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu) wrote:
>
> >: What a monumental waste of time and effort! Try to find something
> >: constructive to do with your life.
> > You mean like buttfucking Okies? AGAIN?
>
> Whatever tickes your fancy. There are probably some members of the
> homosexual community who might be willing to oblige you.

No no no, buttfucking FEMALE Okies is more fun 'cuz more "perverted."
Would I be correct in assuming that "Virginia" is a female name, and
that you have an asshole from whence your opinions emanate?

> Even though I did not respond to your stupid trolls, you'd have to be
> pretty dumb to not have realized that those who did respond were having
> sport with you.

You'd have to be pretty dumb not to have realized that it goes both ways,
i.e. that by trolling I was having sport with y'all so ya'll are welcome
to have sport back. Then I can have sport with those who have sport with
me, and they'll respond, and--gee!--everybody gets a chance to be sporty!
And since it's all in good fun, and given that *I'M* never offended....

> It should have been obvious to anyone with even a modicum
> of intelligence.

Yes it should. So why did YOU not understand it? And why must you
characterize everything you don't comprehend as somehow insulting
to someone else when it's YOU who are the dunderhead who should be
embarrassed and/or taken out and spanked? Like, get real, bitch!

'OOPS, I dropped my matches. Will you pick 'em up for me, Virginia?'


SHEESH.


TheDavid(TM)

No Value Set

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Hey everybody, it's MENSAN season!

TheDavid(TM)


Michelle Anne Steiner

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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In Article <Pine.SOL.3.91.960128...@clark.net>, No Value

Set <thed...@clark.net> wrote:
>No no no, buttfucking FEMALE Okies is more fun 'cuz more "perverted."
>Would I be correct in assuming that "Virginia" is a female name, and
>that you have an asshole from whence your opinions emanate?

You can assume anything you want, but her opinions do not come from you,
contrary to what you have implied.

Michelle Anne Steiner

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In Article <Pine.SOL.3.91.96012...@clark.net>, No Value Set

<thed...@clark.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey everybody, it's MENSAN season!

Just remember the reason for the season.

sine nomine

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Lucilia cuprina wrote:

: I never said he was hurt by it. I just said he got off on the attention,
: and his pose of indignance about being attacked is all part of the act. of
: course, in the case of the scientology debacle, he has every right to be
: indignant, but that's beside the point.

this came as news?

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and here i thought you had a clue.

Dr. Paul N. Brothers

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Simon Hosie (gum...@airdmhor.gen.nz) wrote:
: TheDavid(TM) (No Value Set):
: > Hey everybody, it's MENSAN season!

: MENSA tests are pathetic. They have really low ceilings so they can
: pretend they have a brain. Is there _anybody_ out there that couldn't
: qualify?

Besides you? I suppose so.

: It's no wonder so many people make fun of them.

Jealous.

Dr. PNB

RossWilymz

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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Subj: Re: MENSA--CULT OF LOSERS
In article <4edd70$q...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> you wrote:
: rossw...@aol.com (RossWilymz) writes:
: >: in MENSA before forming my opinion. How much time did you spend on my

: >: reply before passing judgement?
: >And it's 'judgment'.
: >It's *still* 'judgment'.

: Alright, let's settle this once and for all, Beatle. Get out your


dictionary.
: Open it. Look in the j's. under judgment.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What were you looking under again?

: Read the header. If it is the Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary,


like
: mine, or I assume any other reputable dictionary, it will say,

: judgment or judgement

: Either is correct. I personally opt for the one which looks better to
me,
: judgement. I am not wrong in doing this.

Either is not "correct". 'Judgment' is correct, hence it's entry;
'judgement' is acknowledged as used in and among the hoi polloi, ergo
its reference. But widespread misuse does not lend "correctness" to
illiteracy. To think so means you are being "mischievIOUS".

It's sorta like the people from Missour-EE thinking they know better than
the rest of the English-speaking world how to pronounce vowels according
to the rules of the language, and call their state Missour-UH. I have
yet to run across another example of an 'i' sounding like 'uh' in
non-colloquial use.

And I'm certain 'judgEment' does indeed look better to you. I'm just
as positive that 'kwik' and 'langwij' looks better and more intuitive to
lotsa folks as well. Doesn't make them right. I, personally, have major
difficulties rationalizing the idiotic construction of adverbs from
non-adjective forms of adjectives made from perfectly good nouns. The
example of 'pedant' to 'pedantIC' to 'pedandicAL' to 'pedanticalLY' leaps
irresistably to mind.

And if you were to strike a blow for logical construction and declare that

the adherence to 'judgment' is 'pedanticly' followed, I'd agree in a
nonconformist way. But I'd declare that your use of language is entirely
in the range of vernacular, hence nonstandard, ergo illiterate.

: Be informed.

Be literate.

: Julian

-William Safire

UNIX Seminar Account

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this isareply from an obvious low iq person.


Henry Lustig (hlu...@harborside.com) wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jan 1996 19:53:01 GMT, he...@netcom.com (henry) wrote:

> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >
> >mensa is just a cult of pathetic geeks, anyway.
> >
> >signing up for some cult based on such an absurd
> >basis as IQ makes almost as much sense as joining
> >a club for people with nine-inch penises.
> >
> >their quiz is pretty pathetic and practically
> >anyone on the net can qualify for 'member'ship
> >simply by answering a few bogus questions.
> >
> >i bet an IQ of 125 gets you into mensa, and
> >anyone with a higher IQ just jeers at the
> >pathetic clowns who imagine they're joining
> >some kind of elite by joining the premiere
> >dicksizing club of america.
> >
> >MENSA--a club composed of coke-bottle-glasses
> >geeks, founded by losers, and continued so that
> >pitiful little worms can give each other pats
> >on the back to console them for never getting
> >laid.

> If you cannot join them-knock them, eh?! You are pathetic!
> Henry

> hlu...@harborside.com

> How can I adapt a creed which, preferring the mud to the
> fish, exalts the boorish proletariat above the bourgeois and
> the intelligentsia, who with all their faults, are the
> quality of life and surely carry the seeds of all human
> achievement.

> -John Maynard Keynes-

RossWilymz

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In article <100...@seminole.gate.net> you wrote:
: On 22 Jan 1996, RossWilymz wrote:
: > It must be tough looking up to us.
: > Keep trying.

: I took my 141 and stretched out beyond the confines of this elitist and

In what way are we "elitist"? Oh, yeah... yeah... the IQ thing. I keep
forgetting. Like Mensa is the only organization in the history of the
world to have silly entrance requirements. There's two I can think of
right now that require you to have blue hair: the DAR and the Junior
League. Both require a pedigree that would make Secretariat blush with
envy, and the J.L. also requires you to have more disposable income in
your husband's portfolio than several medium-sized municipalities put
together. And being holier-than-thou doesn't hurt, either.

But, okay, if it makes you feel better to think of *us* as perniciously
"elitist", go right ahead.

: bland org. so I would not be structured into thinking that I.Q. meant a
: hill of beans next to common sense. True intelligence would dictate that

: you would be more open-minded and artistic than judgeMENTAL. I have
never
: needed any organization to prove my self worth. But then, I am sure I am


Us neither. But check out the Junior League. I'm tellin ya...

: inviting some condescending response just for scratching you and your
: fellow members pride. No test for that.

Be careful what you ask for. You just might get it.

-rw (yes I am. Really)

Killjoy

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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Ah, a low Mensa. After all, most other Mensa would be smart enough not
to pick up that SPAM (tm) and reply to the obvious troll through your
group. Next time leave it alone and you won't be embarassed in public
again.

Killjoy

RossWilymz

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In article <4edad7$g...@sundog.tiac.net> you wrote:
: Or maybe 165 on on, 168 on another and 174 on a third. Makes it into an

: elitist club by a thread seems rather pathetic. I had always thought
: that Mensa required a 150 IQ. Isn't an IQ below the 140's rather
: pedestrian. My sisters IQ is just below 150 and she can hardly divide.

: Ya ya, she is quite good verbally (much better than me) and she picks up

: languages easily. She is a good conversationalist but she has never
: struck me as exceedingly brilliant. My boss claims to have a 145 IQ and

: he is a definite moron. The common joke is "and I explained it to him
: again" when we talk about his lack of processing speed.
: Come on, lets here some real high IQ'ers post some rubbish.

Too late. You beat us to it.


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Virginia Krenn (asd...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu) wrote:
: On 27 Jan 1996, Ignatz wrote:

: > I had always thought that Mensa required a 150 IQ.

: It is if you're using the Cattell test. Also, not all Mensans are at the

: minimum entry level score. Some of us even belong to multiple high IQ
: organizations.

Which is why you posted this to alt.test, I assume?
Note that I, using a mere 97 keystrokes with my eVIl text editor, was
able to avoid the joy of recieving unwanted mail from all over the world.
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TheDavid(TM) (No Value Set):
> Hey everybody, it's MENSAN season!

MENSA tests are pathetic. They have really low ceilings so they can
pretend they have a brain. Is there _anybody_ out there that couldn't
qualify?

It's no wonder so many people make fun of them.

G. Mark Stewart

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No Value Set (thed...@clark.net) wrote:
: Hey everybody, it's MENSAN season!
: TheDavid(TM)

So now we get to tear you apart with Official Tongs?

GMS
http://www.svs.com/users/gmark

sine nomine

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Michelle Anne Steiner wrote:

: > MENSA tests are pathetic. They have really low ceilings so they can


: >pretend they have a brain. Is there _anybody_ out there that couldn't
: >qualify?

: Yes. You, for one.

if you mensoids are so brilliant, why can't you come up with an
original comeback, one that hasn't been used and that can't be
anticipated well in advance?

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sigh. you really gotta wonder.

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Michelle Anne Steiner

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In Article <4eiph2$8...@airdmhor.gen.nz>, gum...@airdmhor.gen.nz (Simon

Hosie) wrote:
> MENSA tests are pathetic. They have really low ceilings so they can
>pretend they have a brain. Is there _anybody_ out there that couldn't
>qualify?

Yes. You, for one.

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No Value Set

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
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On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, G. Mark Stewart wrote:

> No Value Set (thed...@clark.net) wrote:

> : Hey everybody, it's MENSAN season!
>

> So now we get to tear you apart with Official Tongs?

No you dimwit, I'M not a Mensan. (I'm just plagued by menses,
and am often non compos mentis.)


TheDavid(TM)

ian thomas

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In article <ant30213...@surprise.demon.co.uk>
Stephen B Streater <ste...@surprise.demon.co.uk> writes:

>In article <DLzt...@midway.uchicago.edu>, sine nomine
><mailto:mart...@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>> Michelle Anne Steiner wrote:

*...*


>> : Yes. You, for one.
>>
>> if you mensoids are so brilliant, why can't you come up with an
>> original comeback, one that hasn't been used and that can't be
>> anticipated well in advance?
>
>Like the email she sent me, you mean. Sometimes we just like to
>have a private joke.

Well, if the joke was so private why are you posting it to so many
newsgroups?

*hint: this is a trick question*

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Stephen B Streater

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In article <DLzt...@midway.uchicago.edu>, sine nomine
<mailto:mart...@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
> Michelle Anne Steiner wrote:
>
> : > MENSA tests are pathetic. They have really low ceilings so they can

> : >pretend they have a brain. Is there _anybody_ out there that couldn't
> : >qualify?
>
> : Yes. You, for one.
>
> if you mensoids are so brilliant, why can't you come up with an
> original comeback, one that hasn't been used and that can't be
> anticipated well in advance?

Like the email she sent me, you mean. Sometimes we just like to
have a private joke.

--
Stephen B Streater


Virginia Krenn

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On 29 Jan 1996, Joshua Hesse wrote:
> Virginia Krenn (asd...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu) wrote:
>: On 27 Jan 1996, Ignatz wrote:

>:> I had always thought that Mensa required a 150 IQ.
>: It is if you're using the Cattell test. Also, not all Mensans are at the
>: minimum entry level score. Some of us even belong to multiple high IQ
>: organizations.
> Which is why you posted this to alt.test, I assume?
> Note that I, using a mere 97 keystrokes with my eVIl text editor, was
> able to avoid the joy of recieving unwanted mail from all over the world.
> Top That.

Sure! It took me a mere *3* keystrokes to hit the "d" (for delete) key
for each of the three alt.test posts that I received. When such a minimal
amount of effort is required, it's just not worth the bother to edit the
newsgroups.

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