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Taylor

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Jan 15, 2008, 6:42:25 PM1/15/08
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R.I.P.

Brad Renfro Dies
Posted Jan 15th 2008 6:34PM by TMZ Staff, NTVLand (NTV Land)

TMZ has learned actor Brad Renfro is dead.

The 25-year-old actor was found dead at his Los Angeles home this
morning. The cause of death has not been determined, however, Renfro
has had a history of drug abuse.

Sources tell us Renfro, who had starring roles in "The Client" and
"Apt Pupil" had been working valiantly to stay clean, especially since
this summer. Renfro had been convicted of several drug offenses,
including attempted heroin possession.

Story developing

http://www.tmz.com/2008/01/15/brad-renfro-dies/

Taylor

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Jan 15, 2008, 6:54:48 PM1/15/08
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Note to (Canadian) actor Devon Sawa: This could be you!

Michael O'Connor

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Jan 15, 2008, 7:15:15 PM1/15/08
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He was a pretty decent actor I thought; for a 12 year old kid to hold
his own against Susan Sarandon and Tommy Lee Jones in The Client is no
mean feat. He also played the younger version of Brad Pitt in
Sleepers.

Taylor

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Jan 15, 2008, 7:20:50 PM1/15/08
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On Jan 15, 6:42 pm, Taylor <tayl...@live.ca> wrote:

Probably more news here:

http://www.boysonyourscreen.net/

They seem to talk about "media boys" news. Probably lots of threads
about Renfro. Also, here's his IMDb listing message board:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000605/board

Oberon

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Jan 15, 2008, 7:24:49 PM1/15/08
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On Jan 15, 3:42 pm, Taylor <tayl...@live.ca> wrote:
> R.I.P.
>
> Brad Renfro Dies
> Posted Jan 15th 2008 6:34PM by TMZ Staff, NTVLand (NTV Land)
>
> TMZ has learned actor Brad Renfro is dead.

How sad!

I know that a lot of times it seems like celebs die in threes. So
far, it's been two that have died recently of (most likely) drug
overdoses (Christopher Bowman being the other one). Does this not
bode well for Britney?

Taylor

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Jan 15, 2008, 7:31:15 PM1/15/08
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People are saying that. I wonder... I wonder.

Oberon

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Jan 15, 2008, 7:34:39 PM1/15/08
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I've been hearing this a lot lately. I hope it's not true, though.

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obero...@comcast.net

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Jan 15, 2008, 8:01:52 PM1/15/08
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On Jan 15, 7:57 pm, comadrejo <comadrej...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article
> <1269d5bf-843d-454a-849a-285a77141...@i3g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
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>
>
>
>  Taylor <tayl...@live.ca> wrote:
> > R.I.P.
>
> >BradRenfroDies

> > Posted Jan 15th 2008 6:34PM by TMZ Staff, NTVLand (NTV Land)
>
> > TMZ has learned actorBradRenfrois dead.

>
> > The 25-year-old actor was found dead at his Los Angeles home this
> > morning. The cause of death has not been determined, however,Renfro
> > has had a history of drug abuse.
>
> > Sources tell usRenfro, who had starring roles in "The Client" and

> > "Apt Pupil" had been working valiantly to stay clean, especially since
> > this summer.Renfrohad been convicted of several drug offenses,

> > including attempted heroin possession.
>
> > Story developing
>
> >http://www.tmz.com/2008/01/15/brad-renfro-dies/
>
> I am using correlative bias, but my guess he was trying to stay clean or
> was clean for a couple months, and wanted to reward himself for a couple
> months of not shooting up, and he probably took his regular hit when he
> was addicted.  This will probably happened to Amy Winehouse when she
> tries to clean up...  It is a dangerous time for drug addicts or former
> drug addicts, and alot of time they do it behind locked door or hiding
> so, they don't piss off their minders or love ones....- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

I'm more surprised he outlived Ed Furlong.....I just knew that he was
next.

Taylor

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Jan 15, 2008, 8:07:44 PM1/15/08
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> next.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I was thinking Devon Sawa ('Idle Hands') given the drug arrests, but
perhaps Brian Bonsall ('Family Ties') for the drugs and the domestic
abuse. But Devon was running neck and neck w/ Brian on that one.

Newsread...@gmail.com

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Jan 15, 2008, 8:24:01 PM1/15/08
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On Jan 15, 4:20 pm, Taylor <desperatehousewi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Also, here's his IMDb listing message board:
>
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000605/board

They are all in shock. Too painful for me to witness.

gromit

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Jan 15, 2008, 8:44:13 PM1/15/08
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Very sad but, unfortunately, not surprising. However, cause of death is
not known yet so it may or may not have been drugs. Brad exploded onto the
movie scene with his brilliant performance in "The Client". Although he
found steady work in film (usually small indy films playing dark
characters), he never achieved the superstardom he appeared destined for,
instead succumbing to the temptations of fame and money. It'd be nice if
he could serve as a warning to other young actors but we've been down this
road too often to have much hope there.

Laurie Mann

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Jan 15, 2008, 11:01:51 PM1/15/08
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On Jan 15, 7:24 pm, Oberon <engelke2...@gmail.com> wrote:

I swear I didn't read your post before I said almost the same thing in
one of the other Renfro theads!

Larry Bud

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Jan 15, 2008, 11:06:41 PM1/15/08
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On Jan 15, 7:24 pm, Oberon <engelke2...@gmail.com> wrote:

It has no effect on Britney, of course, as the whole "threes" thing is
ridiculous. Now, back to reality...

Cory

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Jan 15, 2008, 11:37:23 PM1/15/08
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According to the new issue of PEOPLE Magazine that's hit the
newsstands this week, Britney's circling the frickin' drain right now
like a bat outta hell. There's talk that she's been diagnosed as
bipolar since her meltdown with her kids that landed her in the psych
ward at Cedars-Sinai.

--- Cory

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Spob

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Jan 15, 2008, 11:46:15 PM1/15/08
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On Jan 15, 6:42 pm, Taylor <tayl...@live.ca> wrote:

> Sources tell us Renfro, who had starring roles in "The Client" and
> "Apt Pupil" had been working valiantly to stay clean, especially since
> this summer. Renfro had been convicted of several drug offenses,
> including attempted heroin possession.


Funny, I never had any problem not taking drugs. Do I get some kind of
"valiant" award?

So does the Hollywood life turn people into punkasses or are those
with punkass tendencies drawn to it?

Anyone who calls this a "tragedy" should be slapped repeatedly. There
are all kinds of real tragedies in the world, this sure as fuck
doesn't qualify.

CliffB

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Jan 16, 2008, 12:21:27 AM1/16/08
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Watch the movie Bully; he plays a thoroughly unlikeable, if sometimes
sympathetic character - quite well too. That speaks to his acting
talent and thus some would say his vulnerability as an artist; also
perhaps as a person then. So the early demise and pointless loss is
sad from that point. But there's lots of sad folk out there, eminently
worthy of pity, who aren't part of the spoiled and adored celebrity
cadre out in Hollywood. But their demises aren't public nor loudly
bemoaned as "tragedies". But there may be little difference in the
end.

Apairateef

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Jan 16, 2008, 12:23:04 AM1/16/08
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"Oberon" <engel...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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How sad!

Only because you count to three and start again * rolls eyes*...

Sarns


Taylor

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Jan 16, 2008, 12:52:51 AM1/16/08
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No, it really *does* happen. It's happened time and time again in
celebrity deaths. Britney *could* be in trouble w/ this.

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Arthur Preacher

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Jan 16, 2008, 1:46:46 AM1/16/08
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Good eye there Oberon, these are not merely accidental “overdoses” –
not at all, although that was what the public is lead to believe.
These very important actors who were on to something, and those that
wield much power will not let them continue on their quest. But we
will continue to expose this. Thanks for your help, the planet you
save me be your own!
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Larc

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Jan 16, 2008, 1:03:40 PM1/16/08
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:41:23 -0800, comadrejo
<comad...@comcast.net> wrote:

>In article
><f7755e6c-d5d0-4bb7...@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,


> Oberon <engel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So
>> far, it's been two that have died recently of (most likely) drug
>> overdoses (Christopher Bowman being the other one). Does this not
>> bode well for Britney?
>

> Britney Spears doesn't have a drug addiction, she has a major mental
>illness that needs to be treated, so she doesn't have another psychotic
>episode.
>
> People like Peter Doherty or Amy Winehouse, who have been addicted to
>heroin, and are trying to stop, or stop being physically addicted are at
>a great risk, because they have high rate of relapsing.
>
>Britney Spears is at risk of developing something worse like a
>schizoaffective disorder if she doesn't get treated..

And here I was thinking Britney Spears was just stupid. You mean she
has a mental illness as well?

Larc

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mc

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Jan 16, 2008, 1:36:23 PM1/16/08
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Weird how it was predicted on the boards. Or maybe not, I didn't even
know he was an addict.

mc

Bill Schenley

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Jan 16, 2008, 2:38:10 PM1/16/08
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> > Anyone who calls this a "tragedy" should be slapped
> > repeatedly. There are all kinds of real tragedies in the
> > world, this sure as fuck doesn't qualify.
>
> Look up the word "tragedy". This incident certainly can
> be labelled as a tragedy..
>
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tragedy

Well, I'm not advocating that you should be "slapped repeatedly," but this
"incident," as you say, gets chalked up in the Brad's-Bad-Luck column long
before you get to tragedy. Besides, he wasn't even Greek.

Anyway, if you're going to go with the modern definition of tragedy, you
might want to run past tsunamis, earthquakes, AIDS, real poverty,
starvation, war and Usenet Retards before you decide to elevate a dumbass
dope fiend, who didn't even have enough sense to untie the yacht from the
dock before he tried to steal it, to the status of "tragedy."


Dozer Hill

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Jan 16, 2008, 4:54:41 PM1/16/08
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and noone thought this was going to happen, come on kid star and durgs.
Yeah big surprise .

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Starz_Kid

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Jan 16, 2008, 7:43:51 PM1/16/08
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"comadrejo" <comad...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:comadrejo-t-A497...@news.giganews.com...
> > So
> > far, it's been two that have died recently of (most likely) drug
> > overdoses (Christopher Bowman being the other one). Does this not
> > bode well for Britney?
>
> Britney Spears doesn't have a drug addiction, she has a major mental
> illness that needs to be treated, so she doesn't have another psychotic
> episode.
>
> People like Peter Doherty or Amy Winehouse, who have been addicted to
> heroin, and are trying to stop, or stop being physically addicted are at
> a great risk, because they have high rate of relapsing.
>
> Britney Spears is at risk of developing something worse like a
> schizoaffective disorder if she doesn't get treated..


****************** As if you would know...!

Starz_Kid...


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Bill Schenley

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Jan 17, 2008, 8:56:53 AM1/17/08
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> > > > Anyone who calls this a "tragedy" should be
> > > > slapped repeatedly. There are all kinds of real
> > > > tragedies in the world, this sure as fuck doesn't
> > > > qualify.
>
> > > Look up the word "tragedy". This incident certainly
> > > can be labelled as a tragedy..
>
> > > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tragedy
>
> > Well, I'm not advocating that you should be "slapped
> > repeatedly," but this "incident," as you say, gets chalked
> > up in the Brad's-Bad-Luck column long before you get
> > to tragedy. Besides, he wasn't even Greek.
>
> ??!?!?

From the link you provided:

"A serious drama in which a central character,
the protagonist — usually an important, heroic
person — meets with disaster either through
some personal fault or through unavoidable
circumstances. In most cases, the protagonist's
downfall conveys a sense of human dignity in
the face of great conflict. Tragedy originated in
ancient Greece in the works of Aeschylus,
Sophocles, and Euripides. In modern times, it
achieved excellence with William Shakespeare in
such works as Hamlet, King Lear, Macbeth, and
Othello. Twentieth-century tragedies include Death
of a Salesman, by Arthur Miller, and Murder in the
Cathedral, by T. S. Eliot."

A less archaic definition would be:

"6.a lamentable, dreadful, or fatal event
or affair; calamity; disaster: the tragedy
of war."

They ain't talking about a freakin' dope fiend who was too stupid not to OD.

> Tragedy can be a downfall of someone, especially
> someone with a character flaw. If Brad Renfro's death
> fits into the definition of a tragedy, does not mean I have
> much empathy, or feel it compares to a natural disaster,
> it just fits the definition of a tragedy as it is define,
> numbnuts.

Heh ... heh ... "Numbnuts?" Hey, genius, tomorrow, when you get to English
class, discretely pull your teacher aside ... and ask him/her to help you
with sentence structure. In years to come ... you'll thank me for this
advice.

Even by the loose, modern definition of the word "tragedy," Brad Renfro
doesn't qualify. Not unless he had the cure for both cancer and AIDS
written on the back of his hand ... and both cures got washed away at the
morgue.

Unfortunate. Sad, maybe. But not tragic.


mc

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Jan 17, 2008, 12:38:13 PM1/17/08
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On Jan 16, 6:47 pm, "explorer" <N...@ubidnis.com> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes"Bill Schenley" <stray...@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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> news:478e5d23$0$5189$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
> Nothing is a tragedy when using plain old common sense could have easily
> prevented it.- Hide quoted text -

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He didn't have plain old common sense any longer, being a drug addict.

mc

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