Vote on your top 10 flicks
Petter Doennestad
Horse, Haar wrote:
>
> In article , VincentVega says...
>
> >( Its up to u but remeber we said ten or so. I am sure we could all make
> >our lists look alot better and appear to be authorities if we listed 25
> >movies. Plus as I have pointed out u are not inventing the wheel, alot
> >of us have of your choices have already been listed many times)
>
> Why limit the list at 10? Why even attempt to make an all difinitive
> and rigid list that only goes to ten in the first place? Is it because
> it's a good round number and wont cause the inevitable "Oh gee...
> what other good films have I seen?" problem of getting any number
> over 10? And no you cant reinvent the wheel. Thats not to say you
> cant improve on it.
>
> >Come on man your not all that, You make yourself sound like your some
> >sort of authority or something.(Newsflash u arent)
>
> I did not claim to be "the authority" so get your shit straight. What I'm saying
> is try something different from the latest releases shelf at Blockbuster. A lot
> of those titles that people have listed ARE pretty recent. I'll ask the whole
> NG a question though. Who has seen, in their entirity, a couple of these
> films? Birth of A Nation, The General, Intolerance, Greed, Battleship
> Potemkin, The Gold Rush, City Lights, Metropolis, Nosferatu, Wings,
> Broken Blossoms, or even Safety Last? History will tell you a lot about
> films folks.
>
> >Maybe there are a few people who need to hit the Books but you are way
> >out of line to say we all need to
>
> I did not say you all need to. You read more into the post than was there.
> If my tone was curt, well then I'm sorry. Set your news reader to ignore
> for any posts by Horse Haar if your going to twist my posts into something
> they arent. And the whole point of my post was to give some ideas of
> other films out there to see. I made this point particularly clear at the end
> of the posting. (which you seemed fit to edit out Vincent Vega)
>
> >So what I am saying is Yeah, u got a great list but some others have
> >diverse lists to(myself included) I didnt see a single western in your
> >list, but I do applaude your Choice of"Citizen Cane" its the first time
> >it ewas mention if u could believe it)
>
> Dont take my post as an affront to your list in particular. You DID
> have a lot of diversity in it and that makes my heart sing. I did list
> High Noon in my list and I really think that is one hell of a film. I'm sure
> I could still list Outlaw Josey Wales, Rio Bravo, Butch Cassidy and the
> Sundance Kid, Silverado, and Pale Rider pretty high. But quite frankly,
> High Noon is pretty powerful and the genre of western can only be given
> to it because of setting. Is Outland a western or a science fiction film?
> It uses the same theme as in High Noon but it's set in space. But it's
> as different in that genre as 2001 or Blade Runner is. Pigeon holing
> a film doesnt help understand it, all it does is classify it.
>
> As far as Kane goes, well it's an incredible experience. I'm not too sure
> we will ever have a film that did so much, and as well as this one did.
>
> Now, if anyone is wondering if I like Tarantino. Yes by all means I do.
> He truely shows a lot of promise to be one of our more fascinating
> film makers. As a director he has some ways to go, but he has shown
> a great deal of ability irregards of his lack of experience. I'm waiting
> to see how his own personal style of work evolves over the years to
> come. But his major talent comes from his scripts. They almost seem
> effortless in their style and approach.
>
> Vince if you or anyone else felt as though I was slamming the
> NG as a whole, simply to feel like I was an authority, well your
> wrong. I am not an authority and I damn well know it. But I have
> seen enough films over the years to know that some of those
> "top 10 films" are pretty rotten no matter how you stack it up.
> But I did see some listings that were dead on the target and that
> makes me happy. Some times you can get someones attention
> with hell and brimstone better than with "good job". And there
> were just too many mediocre and bad films listed in all the postings
> to respond to individually. Although we could start a string discussing
> the merits of anyone's list, if they feel I've slighted their insightful lists?
> I'll stand on mine. Anyone want a debate?
>
> Horse Haar
OK, what do you think of these movies, which are all ones that I like
very much (just curious):
-The Deer Hunter: One of the three best Vietnam movies ever(together
with Apocalypse Now and Full Metal Jacket)( Have anyone got any other
vietnam movies to recomend? Exept Platoon, I didnt like that.)
-The Day After.
-Bonnie & Clyde: The "original" and best.At least in its genre..
-Once upon a time in America
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Unfortunately I havent seen all of the movies you mention, but I want
to. I think its good that you recomend movies.
And one more thing. Can someone please tell me a bit abot Citizen Kane,
the story, and what makes it so good.
tia.
- MD
VincentVega
1.Raging Bull
2.The Godfather part 2
3.Goodfellas
3.The Good The Bad and The Ugly
4.The Usual Suspects
5.Rio Bravo
6.Easy Rider
7.The Wild Bunch
8.The Professional
9.El Dorado
10(t).The Sting/ Desperado
VincentVega
Hello all,
I am really interested in knowing what movies my fellow Tarantino
enthusiasts most enjoy( other than FDTD, PF, TR and RD) So if u would
please list your top 10 movies(excluding the aforementioned Tarantino
ones). Order is optional
also when you respond please respond to both the newsgroup and my email
Afterwards maybe the list will create some intersesting debates over the
validity and reasoning for certain picks
thanks,
Frank
Jason Simpson
I'm glad you said no specific order, because I con't judge which movies
are better than others, either I love em, I like em, I'm inpartial, or I
dislike them. Here's the one's I love:
All Woody Allen Flicks;
Goodfellas, Casino, Usual Suspects,
El Mariachi (NOT Desperado, that goes on the dislike list, it should be
in a book I should write, 101 ways to reuin a sequil)
Killing Zoi, Shallow Grave,
Dr. Stangelove, A Clockwork Orange, Full Metal Jacket
True Romance,
That's more than ten but oh well
-Jason
lgato...@aol.com
In no particular order:
The Warriors
The Shootist
The Untouchables (with Connery & Costner)
Unforgiven
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Shane
Animal House
Caddyshack
Bull Durham
The Godfather Trilogy
Dave
El Gato Gordo
(con solamente dos huevos)
"I'll be glad to keep my laws off your body, but please keep your laws out of my wallet." Me.
Rick Ford
In no particular order:
The Usual Suspects
Clockwork Orange
Desperado
Seven
Trainspotting
The Silence of the Lambs
The Breakfast Club
Speed
Forrest Gump
Happy Gilmore
Matt DeVuono
Sorry, there is a correction: (in NO particular order)
> Trainspotting
> The Usual Suspects
> Die Hard Trilogy
> Aliens
> A Clockwork Orange
> The Last Boy Scout
> Casino
> The Shawshank Redemption
> The Rock
**A Fish Called Wanda (that's better)
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VPofTRoth
My top 10 movies (no particular order):
1. Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead.
2. Jurassic Park
3. Four Rooms
4. Twister
5. Desperado
6. Fargo
7. Duck Soup
8. Little Odessa
9. Toy Story
10. Gridlock'd
that was hard!
later, Veep
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danielle
ok
1. Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
2. Trainspotting
3. Desperado
4. Clerks
5. Beetlejuice
6. Labyrinth
7. Mallrats
8. Clockwork Orange
9. Ed Wood
10.????
Petter Doennestad
1. The Godfather Trilogy
2. Apocolypse Now!
3. The Usual Suspects
4. A Clockworke Orange
5. Leaving Las Vegas
6. The Shining
7. Full Metal Jacket
8. Goodfellas
9. 2001, A Space Oddysey
10. Heat
- Petter Dønnestad
Kathleen Flynn
In no particular order:
Rosemary's Baby
Phantom of the Paradise
Star Wars
True Romance
Edward Scissorhands
The Princess Bride
Willow
Tomb of Ligeia
Suspiria
The Nightmare Before Christmas
VincentVega wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am really interested in knowing what movies my fellow Tarantino
> enthusiasts most enjoy( other than FDTD, PF, TR and RD)...
Matt DeVuono
> I am really interested in knowing what movies my fellow Tarantino
> please list your top 10 movies(excluding the aforementioned Tarantino
> ones). Order is optional
Here goes (in particular order)
Trainspotting
The Usual Suspects
Die Hard Trilogy
Aliens
True Romance
A Clockwork Orange
The Last Boy Scout
Casino
The Shawshank Redemption
The Rock
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Simpleton0
In no particular order:
Clerks
Mallrats
Primal Fear (if only for the end)
The Usual Suspects (another with a good end)
Monty Python's Meaning of Life
Mel Brook's History of the World Part 1
I know there are more, but nothing comes to me right now.
Marc Fleury
Favourite movies ever:
#1: Manhattan.
After that, I don't know, but the list probably includes...
Annie Hall
Blood Simple
Delicatessen
Do the Right Thing
Exotica
Schindler's List
Searching for Bobby Fischer
Short Cuts
and then maybe some others like...
Boyz N tha Hood
Shallow Grave
Toto Le Heros
12 Monkeys
The Wrong Trousers (if that counts!)
-- Fleury.
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Daniel Fienberg
Simpleton0 (simpl...@aol.com) wrote:
: In no particular order:
<snip>
: Mallrats
Mallrats?!?! That's too bad. I think that the two posters who
enjoyed Mallrats so much really do need to see a few movies made before
1970, or else some newer and better movies. Clerks I can see. That's a
fine movie with a fairly justified following. MAllrats was just a mess.
Hardly funny. Even Kevin Smith is embarrassed by it.
But that's just what I think...
-Daniel
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THE TOP 10
1.The Killer
2.Hard-Boiled
3.The Wild Bunch
4.True Romance
5.Dogs
6.Pulp
7.Desperado
8.Good, Bad, Ugly
9.Goodfellas
10.Bullet In The Head
This is in order :)
Chad
MrsQuentin
Hmm...
1./ Reservoir Dogs
2./ Trainspotting
3./ Killing Zoe
4./ The Usual Suspects
5./ The Blues Brothers
6./ Monty Python's Life of Brian
7./ Toy Story ;)
8./ Independance Day
9./ Things To Do in Denver when you're Dead
10./ Pulp Fiction
(Probably not in the right order and liable to change any minute) ;)
GL
Lower Wolf
Am I the only one here who thought that El Mariachi, although the direction
was admirable, actually kinda sucked? I kept hearing all this praise about
it, then it turns out to be a pretty damn weak movie. I respect Robert
Rodriguez for being able to make it so cheaply and I really dig the way he
handles a camera, but the story was like a bad episode of the A-Team. It
even lacked that cheesy coolness of John Woo flicks (well, without Chow,
what are you gonna do, huh?)
Wolf
Jason Simpson <jsim...@haywire.csuhayward.edu> wrote in article
<Pine.SOL.3.95.970303225740.28435B-100000@haywire>...
>
>
> On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, VincentVega wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I am really interested in knowing what movies my fellow Tarantino
> > enthusiasts most enjoy( other than FDTD, PF, TR and RD) So if u would
> > please list your top 10 movies(excluding the aforementioned Tarantino
> > ones). Order is optional
> >
Mia
Here they are:
The Sound of Music
Breathless
The Graduate
Vertigo
Rebecca
Thelma and Louise
Pulp Fiction
A Room With A View
La Dolce Vita
El Mariachi
In no particular order!
Mia
Thomas Kearns
No order
Naked Lunch
Killing Zoe
'Fiction
'Dogs
City of Lost Children
El Mariachi
Things to do in Denver ...
Dazed and Confused
Brazil
The Usual Suspects
Just a few side bars
Anything:
QT
Scorcese
Rodriquez
Hitchcock
Lucas
...you know, the masters
But, whoever is out looking for these lists, a note ...
...take these lists for what they are not what they may seem to be, as
an example Rolling Thunder Pictures ... I got the first two, Chunk King
Express and Switchblade Sisters, if you watch these movies with visions
of grandeur you may be let down, watch them thinking about subtleties
that inspired or provoked, it isn't the whole movie (well usually not),
it may only be a one-liner or fifteen second clip that puts a movie on
somebodies A-List. Ya dig? ... cool!
TK
Den of Earth
Here goes:
1. The Killer
2. Kentucky Fried Movie
3. Heavy Metal
4. Smokey and the Bandit
5. Mortal Kombat
6. Flash Gordon
7. The Evil Dead series
8. Fargo
9. Clash of the Titans
10.MASH
Those are movies I can't live without. Does that make them
good? Probably not, but they stand etched in my soul.
Matt
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Not including any Tarrantino films (cause that would take up most of the 10)
not in any order
Trainspotting
Shawshank Redemption
The Princess Bride (its a classic)
Independence Day
The Shining (another classic)
Gleaming the Cube
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
True Romance (sorry, had to put it in)
12 Monkeys
Scream
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Darcy Love
ccn...@psu.edu (Chad Newton) wrote:
>THE TOP 10
>Chad
My picks for my top ten:
(not in order)
1. True romance
2. Highlander
3. Heat
4. The Usual Suspects
5. Resvoir Dogs
6. BraveHeart
7. Dracula
8. Willow
9. Strange Brew
10. Young Guns
Rockaveli
My freakin' top 10 - Or the movies I have seen the most
1.Star Wars Trilogy (does that count as one? I have to watch them together.
2.Indiana Jones Trilogy
3.Pulp Fiction
4.Goodfellas
5.Fargo
6.Reservoir Dogs
7.Casino
8.True Romance
9.Raising Arizona
10.The Fugitive/Shawshank Redemption
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Gareth-Michael Skarka
Alrighty then, My ten...
1. The Godfather series (essentially one film)
2. Hard Boiled (John Woo)
3. The Killer (john Woo)
4. Goodfellas
5. Desperado
6. Kung Fu Kult Master (Jet Li)
7. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
8. Swimming to Cambodia
9. Police Story III (SuperCop)
10. The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai
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Ryan Blum
gotta add me .02, just this once...
1. Man Bites Dog (a french film....go rent it...NOW!)
2. Barton Fink
3. Brazil
4. Clockwork Orange
5. Res Dogs
6. Pulp Fiction
7. Spinal Tap
8. Raising ARizona
9. Eraserhead
10. Lost Highway (yes, _I_ actually loved it.)
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a. hejl
yes. searching for bobby fischer is a great movie and is often
underrated by people.
andy
Joshua Nite
Okay, excluding the Tarantino films, my top ten would be....
10. Labyrinth
9. The Hudsucker Proxy/Barton Fink (tie)
8. Heavenly Creatures
7. Blade Runner
6. (It's A) Complex World (if anyone else out there has even heard of
this, I'll be impressed)0
5. Evita
4. Delicatessen
3. The City of Lost Children
2. Clue
1. The Rocky Horror Picture Show
Jason Simpson
On 5 Mar 1997, Daniel Fienberg wrote:
> Simpleton0 (simpl...@aol.com) wrote:
> : In no particular order:
> <snip>
> : Mallrats
>
> Mallrats?!?! That's too bad. I think that the two posters who
> enjoyed Mallrats so much really do need to see a few movies made before
> 1970, or else some newer and better movies. Clerks I can see. That's a
> fine movie with a fairly justified following. MAllrats was just a mess.
> Hardly funny. Even Kevin Smith is embarrassed by it.
> But that's just what I think...
> -Daniel
>
You know what else I've noticed about people's posts is, they'll have a
list full of crappy 90's genre flicks surrounding A Clockwork Orange,
which was a good movie, but I think Tarantino fans would better appreciate
such Kubrick films as The Killing or Dr. Strangelove. It bothers me that
people would list a bunch of Burton films and other shit and then throw in
Clockwork Orange like it's some little tag or some shit. I understand your
criticisms.
-Jason
Berge Garabedian
No real order in these....they are ALL super-cool!!!
True Romance
Goodfellas
Reservoir Dogs
Blue Velvet
Leaving Las Vegas
Clockwork Orange
Annie Hall
The Crow
Seven
Raising Arizona
Honorable honorable mentions: Adventures of Baron Muchausen,
Lost Highway, Blood Simple, The Shining, Taxi Driver, Red Rock West,
Trainspotting, When Harry Met Sally, Wall Street, Airplane I and II,
Natural Born Killers, Swingers, Top Secret, Edward Scissorhands,
Star Wars, Heathers, Less than Zero, Dog Day Afternoon, Bad Lieutenant....
That's about all, folks...
Berge G.
http://www.microtec.net/~drsuess/
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Chris Pierson
Ah, what the hell ... (note: the order of these films tends to change
every five minutes, so don't pay much attention to it. :) )
1. Blade Runner
2. Apocalypse Now
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey
4. The Empire Strikes Back
5. Star Wars
6. The Godfather
7. The Godfather Part 2
8. The Usual Suspects
9. Pulp Fiction
10. A Clockwork Orange
Dammit ... too many movies ... need ... more ... space ...
11. Taxi Driver
12. Reservoir Dogs
13. Raiders of the Lost Ark
14. Alien
15. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
16. The Seven Samurai
17. Unforgiven
18. The Wild Bunch
19. Miller's Crossing
20. A Fish Called Wanda
There. That's better.
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Top Ten Flicks...this is so impossible, but I'll give it a whirl, in no
particular order:
Pulp Fiction
Reservoir Dogs
Goodfellas
Schindler's List
Slacker
Clerks
Orlando
Living In Oblivion
Desperado
A Clockwork Orange
God, that's so committal...
-A
Yoink!
No particular order, just like everyone else :):
1. Posse
(Mario van Peebles wester, and a damn good movie)
2. Pulp Fiction
(Duh!)
3. From Dusk Till Dawn
4. The Fugitive
5. Independance Day
6. Return of the Jedi/Empire Strikes Back/Star Wars (it's all one movie)
7. Carlito's Way
8. Scent of a Woman
9. Boyz N' the Hood
10. A Perfect World
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horse_haar
A lot of you people need to get out and see some more films,
based on what I saw. Come on, life doesnt end at the Blockbuster
Video store's latest releases shelf. Try a little harder.
1- Citizen Kane
2- The Third Man
3- Ran
4- The General
5- 2001: A Space Odyssey
6- The Seventh Seal
7- La Dolce Vita
8- Repulsion
9- Dr. Strangelove
10- Birth of a Nation
11- Night of the Hunter
12- Midnight Cowboy
13- Eraser Head
14- A Clockwork Orange
15- Intolerance
16- Chinatown
17- The Graduate
18- The Conversation
19- GoodFellas
20- High Noon
21- Full Metal Jacket
22- Naked Lunch
23- City Lights
24- The Maltese Falcon
25- Straw Dogs
should I go on?
Hit the books kiddies. You've got a lot to learn about film. As Stanley
Kubrick once said, "Eisenstein was all style and no contenet, Chaplin
was all content and no style. The ultimate is to achieve both." Look
for names on videos like Fellini, Bergman, Kurosawa, Welles, Huston,
and Kubrick. Hell, even if you dont like one film by a film maker, try
another one. Amaze your friends with all kinds of interesting and new
film titles and makers. Fucking George Lucas or Steven Spielberg
aint the zenith of cool flicks. Go get Santa Sangre and trip out on it
one night, and then TRY to figure it out. You'll have a kick ass time
and it's one hell of a weired ass picture. Trust me. Then try out
something like Seven Samurai by Kurosawa. Hey, even Lucas
ripped this one off to make Star Wars!
Coop42
In alphabetical order:
-Braindead / Dead Alive
-Brazil
-C'est arrive pres de chez vous / Man Bites Dog
-Clerks
-Day of the Dead
-Dellamorte Dellamore / Cemetary Man
-The Evil Dead
-Wild at Heart
I know it's just a top 8, but anyway...
Andreas Berger
David McIntosh
VincentVega <fman...@email.unc.edu> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I am really interested in knowing what movies my fellow Tarantino
>enthusiasts most enjoy( other than FDTD, PF, TR and RD) So if u would
>please list your top 10 movies(excluding the aforementioned Tarantino
>ones). Order is optional
>
>also when you respond please respond to both the newsgroup and my email
>Afterwards maybe the list will create some intersesting debates over the
>validity and reasoning for certain picks
Minus the Tarantino Flicks, they are:
1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. Akira
3. Full Metal Jacket
4. Royal Space Force: Wings of Honneamise
5. Apocalypse Now
6. Blade Runner
7. The Abyss
8. Se7en
9. Ghost in the Shell
10. Alien^3
David McIntosh,
da...@unspacy.demon.co.uk
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Eric
In no order...
*The Evil Dead Series
*Reservoir Dogs
*Mortal Kombat
*Pulp Fiction
*Braveheart
*From Dusk Till Dawn
*12 Monkeys
*Billy Madison
*The Exorcist
*Happy Gilmore
Tara Seeley
On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Jason Simpson wrote:
> You know what else I've noticed about people's posts is, they'll have a
> list full of crappy 90's genre flicks surrounding A Clockwork Orange,
> which was a good movie, but I think Tarantino fans would better appreciate
> such Kubrick films as The Killing or Dr. Strangelove. It bothers me that
> people would list a bunch of Burton films and other shit and then throw in
> Clockwork Orange like it's some little tag or some shit. I understand your
> criticisms.
>
> -Jason
The thread is "Vote on YOUR top 10 flicks" not what necessarily ARE the
top ten films, okay? That matter is truly subjective. I see absolutely no
reason to criticize anyone's picks. Different movies appeal to different
types of people. Admittedly, one of my favorite films is Dr. Strangelove,
however, I've seen a movie like "Lost Boys" quite a few times more. Both
are good movies to me and could easily make my top ten list if I ever made
one. Some movies are just plain, pure, good old entertainment and I think
those movies serve just as good a purpose as those that teach us something
grander.
Roberto
In article <5fhp35$o...@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> :
> I am really interested in knowing what movies my fellow Tarantino
> enthusiasts most enjoy( other than FDTD, PF, TR and RD) So if u would
> please list your top 10 movies(excluding the aforementioned Tarantino
> ones). Order is optional
>
8 1/2
12 Monkeys
Aliens
Apocalypse Now
Clockwork Orange
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Trainspotting
Usual Suspects
Dead Man
Raging Bull
I feel rather bad about this. I'm sure I haven't included a movie or two that
definetly have to be in that top 10 list. Oh,well....
Robert - http://www.lanet.lv/~se52033
René Rosso
1. Blade Runner
2. Pulp Fiction
3. Dracula (FFC)
4. Easy Rider
5. Reservoir Dogs
6. Taxi Driver
7. The Usual Suspects
8. The Silence Of The Lambs
9. Nosferatu (Kinski)
10.Killong Zoe
VincentVega
Horse, Haar wrote:
>
> A lot of you people need to get out and see some more films,
> based on what I saw. Come on, life doesnt end at the Blockbuster
> Video store's latest releases shelf. Try a little harder.
>
> 1- Citizen Kane
> 2- The Third Man
> 3- Ran
> 4- The General
> 6- The Seventh Seal
> 7- La Dolce Vita(Others have this one listed)
> 8- Repulsion
> 9- Dr. Strangelove( Many have this one)
> 10- Birth of a Nation
> 11- Night of the Hunter
> 13- Eraser Head( I dont know if this is a worthy pick)
> 14- A Clockwork Orange(This is one we all have)
> 15- Intolerance
> 16- Chinatown
> 17- The Graduate( this maybe be a Cliche)( But we all know of it)(however it is no where near Hoffman best performance)
> 18- The Conversation
> 19- GoodFellas(again many people have this liasted it is a consensus fav)
> 20- High Noon
> 21- Full Metal Jacket(Again many people listed this one)
> 22- Naked Lunch( A few people Listed this one)
> 24- The Maltese Falcon
> 25- Straw Dogs
>
> should I go on?
our lists look alot better and appear to be authorities if we listed 25
movies. Plus as I have pointed out u are not inventing the wheel, alot
of us have of your choices have already been listed many times)
>
> Hit the books kiddies. You've got a lot to learn about film. As Stanley
Come on man your not all that, You make yourself sound like your some
sort of authority or something.(Newsflash u arent)
> Kubrick once said, "Eisenstein was all style and no contenet, Chaplin
> was all content and no style. The ultimate is to achieve both." Look
> for names on videos like Fellini, Bergman, Kurosawa, Welles, Huston,
> and Kubrick. Hell, even if you dont like one film by a film maker, try
> another one. Amaze your friends with all kinds of interesting and new
> film titles and makers. Fucking George Lucas or Steven Spielberg
> aint the zenith of cool flicks. Go get Santa Sangre and trip out on it
> one night, and then TRY to figure it out. You'll have a kick ass time
> and it's one hell of a weired ass picture. Trust me. Then try out
> something like Seven Samurai by Kurosawa. Hey, even Lucas
> ripped this one off to make Star Wars! What do you mean hit the books, if u have read all of the lists u would know that there are many lists that are as good as yours( Ok Maybe they only listed 10 or 12 but thats what was ask for) Lets see what your list looks like if u narrow it down)
Maybe there are a few people who need to hit the Books but you are way
out of line to say we all need to
>
So what I am saying is Yeah, u got a great list but some others have
diverse lists to(myself included) I didnt see a single western in your
list, but I do applaude your Choice of"Citizen Cane" its the first time
it ewas mention if u could believe it)
Colin Ryono
Here goes everything (in no particular order)
-Schindler's List
-The Great Dictator
-Notorious
-Casablanca
-Star Wars Trilogy
-A Hard Day's Night
-Citizen Kane
-Gone with the Wind
-Dr.Strangelove
-Annie Hall
Honorable Mentions:
-It's A Wonderful Life
-Breakfast at Tiffanys
-Pulp Fiction
-The Maltese Falcon
-The Abyss
-The Wizard of Oz
-Hoop Dreams
-From Here to Eternity
-The Deer Hunter
-Strangers on a Train
____________________________________________________________________________
Colin L. Ryono | Baron Munchausen: Your reality, sir, is lies and
Lewis & Clark College | balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have
Portland, Oregon | no grasp of it whatsoever.
www.lclark.edu/~ryono | -From "The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (1989)
horse_haar
In article , VincentVega says...
>( Its up to u but remeber we said ten or so. I am sure we could all make
>our lists look alot better and appear to be authorities if we listed 25
>movies. Plus as I have pointed out u are not inventing the wheel, alot
>of us have of your choices have already been listed many times)
Why limit the list at 10? Why even attempt to make an all difinitive
and rigid list that only goes to ten in the first place? Is it because
it's a good round number and wont cause the inevitable "Oh gee...
what other good films have I seen?" problem of getting any number
over 10? And no you cant reinvent the wheel. Thats not to say you
cant improve on it.
>Come on man your not all that, You make yourself sound like your some
>sort of authority or something.(Newsflash u arent)
I did not claim to be "the authority" so get your shit straight. What I'm saying
is try something different from the latest releases shelf at Blockbuster. A lot
of those titles that people have listed ARE pretty recent. I'll ask the whole
NG a question though. Who has seen, in their entirity, a couple of these
films? Birth of A Nation, The General, Intolerance, Greed, Battleship
Potemkin, The Gold Rush, City Lights, Metropolis, Nosferatu, Wings,
Broken Blossoms, or even Safety Last? History will tell you a lot about
films folks.
>Maybe there are a few people who need to hit the Books but you are way
>out of line to say we all need to
I did not say you all need to. You read more into the post than was there.
If my tone was curt, well then I'm sorry. Set your news reader to ignore
for any posts by Horse Haar if your going to twist my posts into something
they arent. And the whole point of my post was to give some ideas of
other films out there to see. I made this point particularly clear at the end
of the posting. (which you seemed fit to edit out Vincent Vega)
>So what I am saying is Yeah, u got a great list but some others have
>diverse lists to(myself included) I didnt see a single western in your
>list, but I do applaude your Choice of"Citizen Cane" its the first time
>it ewas mention if u could believe it)
Dont take my post as an affront to your list in particular. You DID
have a lot of diversity in it and that makes my heart sing. I did list
High Noon in my list and I really think that is one hell of a film. I'm sure
I could still list Outlaw Josey Wales, Rio Bravo, Butch Cassidy and the
Sundance Kid, Silverado, and Pale Rider pretty high. But quite frankly,
High Noon is pretty powerful and the genre of western can only be given
to it because of setting. Is Outland a western or a science fiction film?
It uses the same theme as in High Noon but it's set in space. But it's
as different in that genre as 2001 or Blade Runner is. Pigeon holing
a film doesnt help understand it, all it does is classify it.
As far as Kane goes, well it's an incredible experience. I'm not too sure
we will ever have a film that did so much, and as well as this one did.
Now, if anyone is wondering if I like Tarantino. Yes by all means I do.
He truely shows a lot of promise to be one of our more fascinating
film makers. As a director he has some ways to go, but he has shown
a great deal of ability irregards of his lack of experience. I'm waiting
to see how his own personal style of work evolves over the years to
come. But his major talent comes from his scripts. They almost seem
effortless in their style and approach.
Vince if you or anyone else felt as though I was slamming the
NG as a whole, simply to feel like I was an authority, well your
wrong. I am not an authority and I damn well know it. But I have
seen enough films over the years to know that some of those
"top 10 films" are pretty rotten no matter how you stack it up.
But I did see some listings that were dead on the target and that
makes me happy. Some times you can get someones attention
with hell and brimstone better than with "good job". And there
were just too many mediocre and bad films listed in all the postings
to respond to individually. Although we could start a string discussing
the merits of anyone's list, if they feel I've slighted their insightful lists?
I'll stand on mine. Anyone want a debate?
Horse Haar
JCP
1. Labyrinth
2. From Dusk Till Dawn
3. 12 Monkeys
4. Mortal Kombat (great effects)
5. Star Wars (all 3)
6. Dream Team
7. Hackers (it's not close to reality but is fun to watch)
8. T2
9. Interview with the vampire (good acting... but don't agree with the
romantic view of vampires)
10. Jurassic Park (great effects)
JCP
a. hejl
it's about time we saw a bogart film up here. i think that some of the
stuff he was in like "the big sleep" which was written by raymond
chandler is in sort of the same manner as tarantino. chandler tries to
accurately depict the underside of society. i find the same true of
dash hammett who wrote "the maltese falcon"
andy
Patrick Napp
Hi!
> 1. Posse
> (Mario van Peebles wester, and a damn good movie)
> 2. Pulp Fiction
> (Duh!)
> 3. From Dusk Till Dawn
> 4. The Fugitive
> 5. Independance Day
> 6. Return of the Jedi/Empire Strikes Back/Star Wars (it's all one movie)
> 7. Carlito's Way
> 8. Scent of a Woman
> 9. Boyz N' the Hood
> 10. A Perfect World
EVERYONE has in their top ten list. ;-)
Greetings, Patrick
In all fairness though i should do a top ten list myself.
1. Goodfellas
2. Citizen Kane
3. Godfather 1/2
4. Pulp Fiction
5. Trains, Planes And Automobiles
6. Braveheart
7. Aliens
8. Apocalypse Now
9. Manhattan (or some other movie by woody allen)
10. Star Wars / Empire Strikes Back
Well... if i would spend more time on the list i think it would be
differnt... ;-)
horse_haar
In article , Petter says...
>OK, what do you think of these movies, which are all ones that I like
>very much (just curious):
>-The Deer Hunter: One of the three best Vietnam movies ever(together
>with Apocalypse Now and Full Metal Jacket)( Have anyone got any other
>vietnam movies to recomend? Exept Platoon, I didnt like that.)
Excellent films, all three of them. I'd also check out "The Boys in
Company C", "Coming Home", and "Rumor of War" Rumor of War
is a tv film so I dont know if it is available on videotape. Coming Home
is available but I think that Boys in Company C may not be available
on VHS any more. I'll check around for some sources for you if you
would like, and post them here in the NG.
>-The Day After.
Testament is another fine post nuclear holocaust drama and very
well done at that. On the Beach is another one but the book it is
based on is superior in my eyes. Still an excellent film in it's own rights.
This type of film is pretty difficult to view because of the intense
reality that they present. Remember, we still have nukes in existence
today. They havent magically disappeared. Check out Kubrick's
Dr. Strangelove for a wild and entertaining ride on the bomb. Literally :)
>-Bonnie & Clyde: The "original" and best.At least in its genre..
No doubt about it. The film Dillinger with Warren Oates isnt half bad,
but it isnt half good either. But you could go back to Cagney in Public
Enemy.
>-Once upon a time in America
This film has always left me with an ambiveliant feeling. I like it a lot
but it still has some weaknesses. But it does have a terific production
design. DeNiro saves it from total boredom for me although it's slow
pace is needed. Cut it down and it's a really bad film. Leave it in the
226 minute form and it's more coherent and watchable. Leone was
very ambitious with this one and he put a huge amount of effort into it.
I highly reccomend it, but with a warning only for those with attention
deficit disorder.
>Unfortunately I havent seen all of the movies you mention, but I want
>to. I think its good that you recomend movies.
Thank you.
>And one more thing. Can someone please tell me a bit abot Citizen Kane,
>the story, and what makes it so good.
Welles made the film from a script he co-wrote with Herman Mankiewicz.
Mankiewicz was a guest at the estate of publisher William Hurst for
quite some time and based the main characters, after spending many
hours watching Hurst and his other guests at San Simeon. The film
was the subject of a huge amount of controversy and Welles was
villified for doing it. This was Welles first attempt at film making following
a highly respected number of works in theater and radio. He was
considered a child prodigy and a genius. Welles pushed the evelope,
so to speak, with Kane. The cinematography and lighting were a
bench mark technically. Welles didnt view the camera as being a
static piece of machinery and devised shots and ideas that were as
groundbreaking as what was seen in 2001, Star Wars, and Jurassic
Park. Irregardless of the innovation that it brought about, Kane had
a tight story of the most powerful man on Earth being humbled and
regretful over his loss of childhood and innocence. My favorite scene
is when he is wrecking his wifes room and stops when he spots an object
in the room. In that one scene, Welles showed exactly how much thought
and preperation he put into this film. It's one of those moments when you are
watching a film and you simply mutter the word "wow" very quietly to
yourself. PBS did a documentary for it's Great Rivals series which focused
on the lives of Welles and Hurst and the film. Check out Citizen Kane
first and form an opinion about it. Think about what it meant and how
it was presented to you. Then view the documentary and see the
simularities in their lives. If you watch it again, you will have a much
deeper appreciation and understanding of the film. If you cant find a
copy of the documentary, check out some of the many studies of
Welles and his volume of work and you will get an idea of some of
the scope of what this film had. It is very easy to compare Welles
to the myth of Iccarus. But did do some fine films after Kane. I hope this
will help you some. But what ever you do, dont form an opinion on it
based on what the critics say about it. Get to understand the situation
that Welles was faced with and the whole beauty of it will appear before
your eyes. If you really dig Kane and want to check out some of his other
films. I really do reccomend The Third Man (he didnt direct it, but you can
see his influence all over it.) Macbeth, Othello, and Touch of Evil.
The Magnificent Ambersons is something to get into after you learn about
it's history a little bit. It's a lot like Stroheim's "Greed" in it's legend.
Marc Fleury
According to VincentVega, Horse Haar wrote:
>> Then try out something like Seven Samurai by Kurosawa. Hey, even Lucas
>> ripped this one off to make Star Wars!
Actually, it was Hidden Fortress, not Seven Samurai, which inspired
Star Wars. Seven Samurai became The Magnificent Seven. (And Yojimbo
became A Fistful of Dollars. Kurosawa seems to be the most
"inspirational" movie maker around.)
-- Fleury.
Casey Neal
Here I go, but in no particular order.
Pulp Fiction
Reservoir Dogs
Die Hard
Seven
Goodfellas
Casino
Abyss
Terminator 2
Scream (don't flame me, I liked the movie)
From Dusk Till Dawn (Not oscar calibur, but I had a good time watching
it)
horse_haar
In article , Petter says...
>OK, what do you think of these movies, which are all ones that I like
>very much (just curious):
>-The Deer Hunter: One of the three best Vietnam movies ever(together
>with Apocalypse Now and Full Metal Jacket)( Have anyone got any other
>vietnam movies to recomend? Exept Platoon, I didnt like that.)
All theree of these films are excellent. To add to the list of Vietnam War
films I could mention The Boys in Company C, Coming Home, and Rumor
of War. I believe that Coming Home is the only one of these that is
currently available on VHS.
>-The Day After.
Try out Testament and On the Beach for other post nuclear
dramas. And of course Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove for an odd
offshoot.
>-Bonnie & Clyde: The "original" and best.At least in its genre..
One of a kind, Bonnie & Clyde is. Try out Public Enemy with James Cagney.
>-Once upon a time in America
Leone really did get ambitious with this film. I like it a lot, but the
way it is structured it has to be seen in it's 227 minute version to
get the full impact of it. But it is still a little rough even in that full
form.
>Unfortunately I havent seen all of the movies you mention, but I want
>to. I think its good that you recomend movies.
Thank you.
>And one more thing. Can someone please tell me a bit abot Citizen Kane,
>the story, and what makes it so good.
>
>tia.
>
>- MD
First of all dont follow the words of the critics on this one. You really
do have to see it for yourself, ask questions, and think about it for
a while. Check out some of the books written about Welles and Hearst
to get a deeper understanding of the entire scope of it. PBS did a
segment of their Great Rivals series on these two men and I found
it quite informative and entertaining. Basically the film is about a powerful
publishing magnate as he navigates his life. When he dies he leaves behind
a deep mystery about exactly who he was. Welles and writer Herman
Mankiewicz based the story on a real life figure, publisher William Randolph
Hearst. Mankiewicz was a guest at Hearst's estate, San Simeon, for quite
some time and paid very close attention to the others who visited there.
Kane was Welles first attempt at making a film after sucess' in theater and
radio. Kane will always be remembered as his greatest work, but many of
his other films are quite interesting to watch. Kane was a groundbreaker
in terms of cinematography because Welles didnt look at the camera as
being a static piece of equipment. He placed it in unique positions that
influenced many film makers for years to come. My favorite scene in the
entire film is when Kane is rampaging through his wifes room and spies an
object on a shelf and immediately stops. The way it is filmed and it's meaning
in the film is one of those moments where you just quietly mumble the word
"wow" to yourself.
Horse Haar, the secret to soft divans 'round the world.
horse_haar
In article , tet...@fox.nstn.ca says...
I stand corrected. With the sheer number of films that have their
inspiration from Kurosawa's films. It is easy to get turned around at
times and make a Freudian slip type mistake. It appears I am not an
authority. ;-)
Justin McGill
I won't flame.. Screm ROCKED.. I liked that movie alot.. big adrenaline
pumper huh? first scary movie since Texas Chainsaw and Henry..
a. hejl
i thought scream was pretty cool too. it was kind of scary and very
amusing how the actors made fun of the genre they were doing. very well
done. besides, it had the fonz!
andy
Paul Miller
#10 - From Dusk till Dawn
# 9 - Ransom
# 8 - Phenomenon
# 7 - Seven
# 6 - Crimson Tide
# 5 - Get Shorty
# 4 - Indepence Day
# 3 - Two Days in the Valley
# 2 - Pulp Fiction
# 1 - Reservoir Dogs
THE KING
My top 10 (off the top of my head) are:
PulpFiction
Goodfellas
Rudy
The Program
Tombstone
Groundhog Day
Stripes
Hooisers
Field of Dreams
Dumb and Dumber
Moonbeam
Wasn't Patty Hearst William Randolph Hearst's daughter? She was involved
with something sketchy, but I can't remember what. A kidnapping or
something. Anyone know anything?
Dave and Kathy Aurigemma
(sp?) Liberation Army and was cuaght on a bank video during a robbery.
She was later released.
horse_haar
In article , Moonbeam says...
>
>
>Wasn't Patty Hearst William Randolph Hearst's daughter? She was involved
>with something sketchy, but I can't remember what. A kidnapping or
>something. Anyone know anything?
>
She is his grand daughter, I believe. She was kidnapped by a group
named The Sibonese (sp?) Liberation Organization and later was
photographed by bank cameras helping them in robberies. She
recorded a message claiming that she was now a part of the group
and had changed her name to Tonya (sp?). After she was captured
by the FBI, she claimed that she had been brainwashed by the group
and was innocent of the crimes because of this. She was found guilty
and sent to prison anyhow. As a side note. Sorry for several multiple
posts by me. The old news service has acted up and some posts are
getting up and some seem to be getting lost or greatly delayed. I hate
being a bandwidth hog.
johnn...@hotmail.com
From: THE KING <johnn...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Vote on your top 10 flicks
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ANUS409
>1. Blade Runner -- great
>2. Pulp Fiction -- bad
>3. Dracula (FFC) -- very bad
>4. Easy Rider -- great
>5. Reservoir Dogs -- good
>6. Taxi Driver -- great
>7. The Usual Suspects -- very bad
>8. The Silence Of The Lambs -- great
>9. Nosferatu (Kinski) -- great
>10.Killong Zoe -- bad
Len
Dave and Kathy Aurigemma <au...@together.net> wrote:
>Moonbeam wrote:
>>
>> Wasn't Patty Hearst William Randolph Hearst's daughter? She was involved
>> with something sketchy, but I can't remember what. A kidnapping or
>> something. Anyone know anything?
>I think she was his granddaughter. She was kidnapped by the Simbonese
>(sp?) Liberation Army and was cuaght on a bank video during a robbery.
>She was later released.
No, what she was involved in wasn't sketchy, but in this video
environment of ours, anything that happened more than two weeks ago is
pretty much out of mind.
I believe that William Randolph Hearst's son was also William Randolph
Hearst, which would make you both right.
More details: the SLA was basically one or two black guys who'd spent
most of their lives in prison and a bunch of white women trying to
instigate a revolution. Sex, drugs, and revolution was what America
was fantasizing about in delicious horror in the early seventies.
They kept Hearst captive for months, molesting and indoctrinating her.
She was forced to do the robbery, at which they left a tape on which
she the spouted revolutionary slogans they fed her. Given that they
had her life in their hands, she could hardly do any other, but people
at the time believed she'd gone over to their side, which seemed quite
dramatic given that she was a child of the Powers That Be.
Later, the police caught up with them and killed them all in a
shootout, except Hearst, who they tried and convicted, sent to prison
for a time. So, after being incarcerated and molested by the SLA, she
was again incarcerated and molested by our legal system. She still
appears on tv from time to time to tell her story.
--
Len
------------------------------ lenp...@nwlink.com --------
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-------- http://www.nwlink.com/~lenpacnw - rev 03-13-97 -----
Jason Simpson
On Sat, 15 Mar 1997, Dave and Kathy Aurigemma wrote:
> Moonbeam wrote:
> >
> > Wasn't Patty Hearst William Randolph Hearst's daughter? She was involved
> > with something sketchy, but I can't remember what. A kidnapping or
> > something. Anyone know anything?
> I think she was his granddaughter. She was kidnapped by the Simbonese
> (sp?) Liberation Army and was cuaght on a bank video during a robbery.
> She was later released.
>
How about allegedly kidnapped.
It was "something sketchy" because no one knew if she was actually
kidnapped or not. People speculated that she was really working WITH this
Simbonese Liberation bullshit and she knew that her daddy would give money
cus we all know he had it.
I don't know myself, it's kind of like who killed JFK or some shit y'know?
It was probably just a really big sex thing, let's get all freudian about
it. She was sexually repressed. Didn't like the rich kids daddy set her up
with but she found these rebellious crazy guys who "finally made her feel
free and be herself" or some shit and so she ran off and had her own
personal sexual revolution.
(Sorry, I like to go off on bullshit tangents too much)
-Jason
Jason Simpson
Wait, this one's missing the tag:
On Sat, 15 Mar 1997, THE KING wrote:
> My top 10 (off the top of my head) are:
>
> PulpFiction
> Goodfellas
> Rudy
> The Program
> Tombstone
A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
> Groundhog Day
> Stripes
> Hooisers
> Field of Dreams
> Dumb and Dumber
>
>
There, now the list is complete. These are by far the best films ever
made.
-Jason
Jason Simpson
On Sun, 16 Mar 1997, Len wrote:
> Dave and Kathy Aurigemma <au...@together.net> wrote:
>
> >Moonbeam wrote:
> >>
> >> Wasn't Patty Hearst William Randolph Hearst's daughter? She was involved
> >> with something sketchy, but I can't remember what. A kidnapping or
> >> something. Anyone know anything?
> >I think she was his granddaughter. She was kidnapped by the Simbonese
> >(sp?) Liberation Army and was cuaght on a bank video during a robbery.
> >She was later released.
>
> No, what she was involved in wasn't sketchy, but in this video
> environment of ours, anything that happened more than two weeks ago is
> pretty much out of mind.
Of course it was sketchy. And I love the whole 'video environment'
thing, it's so ironic isn't it?
> I believe that William Randolph Hearst's son was also William Randolph
> Hearst, which would make you both right.
>
> More details: the SLA was basically one or two black guys who'd spent
> most of their lives in prison and a bunch of white women trying to
> instigate a revolution. Sex, drugs, and revolution was what America
> was fantasizing about in delicious horror in the early seventies.
I laughed out loud at your description of the SLA :) It's great.
> They kept Hearst captive for months, molesting and indoctrinating her.
> She was forced to do the robbery, at which they left a tape on which
> she the spouted revolutionary slogans they fed her. Given that they
> had her life in their hands, she could hardly do any other, but people
> at the time believed she'd gone over to their side, which seemed quite
> dramatic given that she was a child of the Powers That Be.
This is where the charm that shined in the last paragraph fades to this
media perception bullshit (video generation as you might call it) So you
sympathize with anyone who sobs their spiel out on TV?
People believed she'd "Gone over to the dark side" what? Yeah, see, in
case you haven't noticed, children from the "Powers That Be" have
insighted revolutions for centuries. Does the name Marx mean anything to
you?
> Later, the police caught up with them and killed them all in a
> shootout, except Hearst, who they tried and convicted, sent to prison
> for a time. So, after being incarcerated and molested by the SLA, she
> was again incarcerated and molested by our legal system. She still
> appears on tv from time to time to tell her story.
>
Yeah, she goes on talk shows and makes sorry saps cry for her and she's
laughing at you all every day. She knew what the fuck she was doing. If
your buddies needed money and Daddy had it well... you know. It was hard
for her to do her Christmas shopping, I mean, what do you get for the man
who has everything?
And I bet you think Oswald was such a bad-ass Marine that he fired all
those bullets himself from his little old Eyetalian rifle and hit every
time. Jack Ruby's just some crazy Jew who wanted to prove he had the guts
to kill and the patriotic ideals to get vengeance for his country, right?
I'd like to know what you think about Nixon.
-Jason
au...@together.net
From: Dave and Kathy Aurigemma <au...@together.net>
Subject: Re: Kane and Hearst
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tarantino
Moonbeam wrote:
>>
>> Wasn't Patty Hearst William Randolph Hearst's daughter? She was involved
>> with something sketchy, but I can't remember what. A kidnapping or
>> something. Anyone know anything?
I think she was his granddaughter. She was kidnapped by the Simbonese
(sp?) Liberation Army and was cuaght on a bank video during a robbery.
She was later released.
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From: anu...@aol.com (ANUS409)
Subject: Re: Vote on your top 10 flicks, BEAT THESE!
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Date: 16 Mar 1997 08:00:06 GMT
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From: lenp...@nwlink.com*nospam* (Len)
Subject: Re: Kane and Hearst
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tarantino
Dave and Kathy Aurigemma <au...@together.net> wrote:
>>Moonbeam wrote:
>>>
>>> Wasn't Patty Hearst William Randolph Hearst's daughter? She was involved
>>> with something sketchy, but I can't remember what. A kidnapping or
>>> something. Anyone know anything?
>>I think she was his granddaughter. She was kidnapped by the Simbonese
>>(sp?) Liberation Army and was cuaght on a bank video during a robbery.
>>She was later released.
No, what she was involved in wasn't sketchy, but in this video
environment of ours, anything that happened more than two weeks ago is
pretty much out of mind.
I believe that William Randolph Hearst's son was also William Randolph
Hearst, which would make you both right.
More details: the SLA was basically one or two black guys who'd spent
most of their lives in prison and a bunch of white women trying to
instigate a revolution. Sex, drugs, and revolution was what America
was fantasizing about in delicious horror in the early seventies.
They kept Hearst captive for months, molesting and indoctrinating her.
She was forced to do the robbery, at which they left a tape on which
she the spouted revolutionary slogans they fed her. Given that they
had her life in their hands, she could hardly do any other, but people
at the time believed she'd gone over to their side, which seemed quite
dramatic given that she was a child of the Powers That Be.
Later, the police caught up with them and killed them all in a
shootout, except Hearst, who they tried and convicted, sent to prison
for a time. So, after being incarcerated and molested by the SLA, she
was again incarcerated and molested by our legal system. She still
appears on tv from time to time to tell her story.
--
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From: Jason Simpson <jsim...@haywire.csuhayward.edu>
Subject: Re: Vote on your top 10 flicks
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 15:11:51 -0800
-Jason
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From: Jason Simpson <jsim...@haywire.csuhayward.edu>
Subject: Re: Kane and Hearst
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tarantino
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:56:55 -0800
On Sun, 16 Mar 1997, Len wrote:
>> Dave and Kathy Aurigemma <au...@together.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Moonbeam wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Wasn't Patty Hearst William Randolph Hearst's daughter? She was
>involved
>> >> with something sketchy, but I can't remember what. A kidnapping or
>> >> something. Anyone know anything?
>> >I think she was his granddaughter. She was kidnapped by the Simbonese
>> >(sp?) Liberation Army and was cuaght on a bank video during a robbery.
>> >She was later released.
>>
>> No, what she was involved in wasn't sketchy, but in this video
>> environment of ours, anything that happened more than two weeks ago is
>> pretty much out of mind.
Of course it was sketchy. And I love the whole 'video environment'
thing, it's so ironic isn't it?
>> I believe that William Randolph Hearst's son was also William Randolph
>> Hearst, which would make you both right.
>>
>> More details: the SLA was basically one or two black guys who'd spent
>> most of their lives in prison and a bunch of white women trying to
>> instigate a revolution. Sex, drugs, and revolution was what America
>> was fantasizing about in delicious horror in the early seventies.
I laughed out loud at your description of the SLA :) It's great.
>> They kept Hearst captive for months, molesting and indoctrinating her.
>> She was forced to do the robbery, at which they left a tape on which
>> she the spouted revolutionary slogans they fed her. Given that they
>> had her life in their hands, she could hardly do any other, but people
>> at the time believed she'd gone over to their side, which seemed quite
>> dramatic given that she was a child of the Powers That Be.
This is where the charm that shined in the last paragraph fades to this
media perception bullshit (video generation as you might call it) So you
sympathize with anyone who sobs their spiel out on TV?
People believed she'd "Gone over to the dark side" what? Yeah, see, in
case you haven't noticed, children from the "Powers That Be" have
insighted revolutions for centuries. Does the name Marx mean anything to
you?
>> Later, the police caught up with them and killed them all in a
>> shootout, except Hearst, who they tried and convicted, sent to prison
>> for a time. So, after being incarcerated and molested by the SLA, she
>> was again incarcerated and molested by our legal system. She still
>> appears on tv from time to time to tell her story.
>>
Yeah, she goes on talk shows and makes sorry saps cry for her and she's
laughing at you all every day. She knew what the fuck she was doing. If
your buddies needed money and Daddy had it well... you know. It was hard
for her to do her Christmas shopping, I mean, what do you get for the man
who has everything?
And I bet you think Oswald was such a bad-ass Marine that he fired all
those bullets himself from his little old Eyetalian rifle and hit every
time. Jack Ruby's just some crazy Jew who wanted to prove he had the guts
to kill and the patriotic ideals to get vengeance for his country, right?
I'd like to know what you think about Nixon.
-Jason
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From: Jason Simpson <jsim...@haywire.csuhayward.edu>
Subject: Re: Kane and Hearst
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tarantino
On Sat, 15 Mar 1997, Dave and Kathy Aurigemma wrote:
>> Moonbeam wrote:
>> >
>> > Wasn't Patty Hearst William Randolph Hearst's daughter? She was
>involved
>> > with something sketchy, but I can't remember what. A kidnapping or
>> > something. Anyone know anything?
>> I think she was his granddaughter. She was kidnapped by the Simbonese
>> (sp?) Liberation Army and was cuaght on a bank video during a robbery.
>> She was later released.
>>
How about allegedly kidnapped.
It was "something sketchy" because no one knew if she was actually
kidnapped or not. People speculated that she was really working WITH this
Simbonese Liberation bullshit and she knew that her daddy would give money
cus we all know he had it.
I don't know myself, it's kind of like who killed JFK or some shit y'know?
It was probably just a really big sex thing, let's get all freudian about
it. She was sexually repressed. Didn't like the rich kids daddy set her up
with but she found these rebellious crazy guys who "finally made her feel
free and be herself" or some shit and so she ran off and had her own
personal sexual revolution.
(Sorry, I like to go off on bullshit tangents too much)
-Jason
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Foadmeister
Mine are:
1. Reservoir Dogs
2. The Wild Bunch
3. Bad Lieutenant
4. Pulp Fiction
5. Clerks
6. Kentucky Fried Movie
7. Goodfellas
8. Killer Klowns from Outer Space
9. From Dusk Till Dawn
10. KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park
DOUGLAS LEVY
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Aurora, IL 60598-0354
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ice? You mean I gotta drink
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an...@rz.uni-potsdam.de
- Blues Brothers
- From Dusk Till Dawn
- Spaceballs
- Airplane
- Johnnie Got His Gun
- Blade Runner
- Young Guns 2
- Full Metal Jacket
- Easy Rider
- The Crow
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Ryan Blum
> In all fairness though i should do a top ten list myself.
as will I...
1. Man Bites Dog
2. Barton Fink
3. Clockwork Orange
4. Pulp Fiction
5. Lost Highway (seriously...go see it!)
6. Brazil
7. Eraserhead
8. Spinal Tap
9. Clerks
10. Fargo
Dogs, Raising Arizona, Four Rooms, The Star Wars trilogy, Dr.
STrangeglove, and a few others should really make the list, too.
Have fun,
Ryan
____________________________________________________________________
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lowf...@west.net rediculous to me. I went through that, but
rosewood stick #918 I was 14 years old." - John Medeski
www.west.net/~lowfrqcy
Foadmeister
Mine are:
1. Reservoir Dogs
2. The Wild Bunch
3. Bad Lieutenant
4. Pulp Fiction
5. Clerks
6. Kentucky Fried Movie
7. Goodfellas
8. Up in Smoke
9. From Dusk Till Dawn
10. KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park/Killer Klowns from Outer Space (tie)
Gyenes Zoltan
Slightly more than 10, but I couldn't get it shorter:
(and don't see the order)
- Pulp Fiction
- Arizona Dream (Kusturica)
- Reservoir Dogs
- Before the Rain (albanian-macedon)
- Desperado
- Trainspotting
- Naked (Mike Leigh)
- Living in Oblivion (with Steve Buscemi)
- Delicatessen (Jeunet-Caro)
- Quayaanisqatsi
MacFly
hid...@earthlink.net
From: hid...@earthlink.net (Foadmeister)
Subject: Re: Vote on your top 10 flicks
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tarantino
Mine are:
1. Reservoir Dogs
2. The Wild Bunch
3. Bad Lieutenant
4. Pulp Fiction
5. Clerks
6. Kentucky Fried Movie
7. Goodfellas
8. Killer Klowns from Outer Space
9. From Dusk Till Dawn
10. KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park
DOUGLAS LEVY
P.O. Box 6354
Aurora, IL 60598-0354
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From: lowf...@west.net (Ryan Blum)
Subject: Re: Vote on your top 10 flicks
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as will I...
Have fun,
Ryan
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MacFly
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From: hid...@earthlink.net (Foadmeister)
Subject: Re: Vote on your top 10 flicks
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tarantino
Mine are:
1. Reservoir Dogs
2. The Wild Bunch
3. Bad Lieutenant
4. Pulp Fiction
5. Clerks
6. Kentucky Fried Movie
7. Goodfellas
8. Up in Smoke
9. From Dusk Till Dawn
10. KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park/Killer Klowns from Outer Space (tie)
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.970316152650.24366E-100000@haywire>, Jason Simpson <jsim...@haywire.csuhayward.edu> writes:
>
> And I bet you think Oswald was such a bad-ass Marine that he fired all
>those bullets himself from his little old Eyetalian rifle and hit every
>time. Jack Ruby's just some crazy Jew who wanted to prove he had the guts
>to kill and the patriotic ideals to get vengeance for his country, right?
If Jack Ruby was part of the conspiracy, why didn't someone have to take him out so he wouldn't spill his guts in prison? Was Ruby such a good little soldier he spent the rest of his life in jail?
El Gato Gordo
(con solamente dos huevos)
"I'll be glad to keep my laws off your body, but please keep your laws out of my wallet." Me.
Pelham
Simpleton0 wrote:
>
> In no particular order:
>
> Clerks
> Mallrats
> Primal Fear (if only for the end)
You really need to read that book! If you have not, then you do not
know what you are missing!
> The Usual Suspects (another with a good end)
> Monty Python's Meaning of Life
> Mel Brook's History of the World Part 1
>
> I know there are more, but nothing comes to me right now.
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Travis Gillison
This list changes practically every week
1. The Usual Suspects
2. The Shawshank Redemption
3. The Rock
4. GoodFellas
5. Trainspotting
6. 2 Days In The Valley
7. Die Hard Trilogy (I really can't categorize this as one, but oh
well....)
8. Heat
9. The Godfather
10. GoldenEye
"It's always funny until someone gets hurt...And then it's just hilarious!"
-"Ricochet," by Faith No More
"Keaton always said: 'I don't believe in God, but I'm afraid of him.' Well, I believe in God, and the only thing that scares me is Keyser Soze."
-Kevin Spacey, as Roger "Verbal" Kint, in the film The Usual Suspects
"Nothin' better than a dealer who's high...."
"Junkhead," by Alice In Chains
WomansRuin
Hmmmmm, this was so hard!
No order really:
~ Harold and Maude
~ The Godfather
~ Amadeus
~ Trainspotting
~ Sid & Nancy (I know, I know!!)
~ True Romance
~ American Graffitti
~ Silence of the Lambs
~ Dracula (Coppola)
~ Natural Born Killers
Justin McGill
Thanks VERY much.. One of the modern filma.. I would put in my best of lists..
BUT I never thought about it as I rushed through my list.. :(
>2. The Shawshank Redemption
Jason Simpson
On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Travis Gillison wrote:
> This list changes practically every week
>
> 1. The Usual Suspects
> 2. The Shawshank Redemption
> 3. The Rock
Am I the only person who thought the Rock was just a big fat popcorn
movie?
> 4. GoodFellas
> 5. Trainspotting
> 6. 2 Days In The Valley
> 7. Die Hard Trilogy (I really can't categorize this as one, but oh
> well....)
Star Wars was a trilogy. Every Die Hard after the first one seemed to turn
into some money making story stretch.
> 8. Heat
I like explosions too.
> 9. The Godfather
> 10. GoldenEye
-Jason
Justin McGill
In article <Pine.SOL.3.96.970326023214.1301A-100000@haywire>, Jason Simpson <jsim...@haywire.csuhayward.edu> wrote:
>
>
>On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Travis Gillison wrote:
>
>> This list changes practically every week
>>
>> 1. The Usual Suspects
>> 2. The Shawshank Redemption
>> 3. The Rock
>
>Am I the only person who thought the Rock was just a big fat popcorn
>movie?
>
>
>> 4. GoodFellas
^--------- Good choice.
>> 5. Trainspotting
^----- To be fair I would say this SUCKS.. I hated it. JM
>> 6. 2 Days In The Valley
^------------- would put PF before this.. Some good scences. but a POOR
pretender, save James Spader who was amazing.. JM
>> 7. Die Hard Trilogy (I really can't categorize this as one, but oh
>> well....)
>
>Star Wars was a trilogy. Every Die Hard after the first one seemed to turn
>into some money making story stretch.
Yeah but the spectacle is amazing in 2....
jsim...@haywire.csuhayward.edu
From: Jason Simpson <jsim...@haywire.csuhayward.edu>
Subject: Re: Vote on your top 10 flicks
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tarantino
On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Travis Gillison wrote:
>> This list changes practically every week
>>
>> 1. The Usual Suspects
>> 2. The Shawshank Redemption
>> 3. The Rock
Am I the only person who thought the Rock was just a big fat popcorn
movie?
>> 4. GoodFellas
>> 5. Trainspotting
>> 6. 2 Days In The Valley
>> 7. Die Hard Trilogy (I really can't categorize this as one, but oh
>> well....)
Star Wars was a trilogy. Every Die Hard after the first one seemed to turn
into some money making story stretch.
>> 8. Heat
I like explosions too.
>> 9. The Godfather
>> 10. GoldenEye
-Jason
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>>2. The Shawshank Redemption
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From: Travis Gillison <Sa...@webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Vote on your top 10 flicks
Newsgroups: alt.fan.tarantino
This list changes practically every week
1. The Usual Suspects
2. The Shawshank Redemption
3. The Rock
4. GoodFellas
5. Trainspotting
6. 2 Days In The Valley
7. Die Hard Trilogy (I really can't categorize this as one, but oh
well....)
8. Heat
9. The Godfather
10. GoldenEye
"It's always funny until someone gets hurt...And then it's just hilarious!"
-"Ricochet," by Faith No More
"Keaton always said: 'I don't believe in God, but I'm afraid of him.'
Well, I believe in God, and the only thing that scares me is Keyser Soze."
-Kevin Spacey, as Roger "Verbal" Kint, in the film The Usual Suspects
"Nothin' better than a dealer who's high...."
"Junkhead," by Alice In Chains
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On 26 Mar 1997 02:46:58 GMT, woman...@aol.com (WomansRuin) wrote:
In no particular order:
Wild Strawberries
Aguirre The Wrath of God
Seven Beauties
Taxi Driver
Full Metal Jacket
Casablanca (yeah I know--a cliche)
Reservoir Dogs
Raging Bull
Scenes from a Marriage (the theatrical version)
Baby Snakes
"I'll most likely change my mind tomorrow." - The Dread Pirate
Roberts
Only ten??? Now that's touch. Can anybody tell me what is the point
of all this?
.....
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-- Jules, Pulp Fiction
'I don't even have an opinion.'
-- Marvin, Pulp Fiction
Dave
10 favorite comedies
1. Animal House
2. Stripes
3. Airplane
4. Blazing Saddles
5. Bull Durham
6. Up in Smoke
7. Rocky Horror Picture Show
8. Up the Academy
9. Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls
10. Wholly Moses
10 favorite dramas
1. Pulp Fiction
2. Apollo 13
3. Angels with Dirty Faces
4. Midnight Express
5. Raging Bull
6. Helter Skelter
7. A Time to Kill
8. Forrest Gump
9. The Wall
10. Psycho
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no specific order
*Slingblade
*Shine
*Back to the Future
*The Crow
*Billy Madison
*Pulp Fiction
*Untamed Heart
*the Goonies
*Princess Bride
*Private Parts