WHAT WAS LUCAS THINKING....
kong
2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
3. Letting the future Darth Vader say Yippee twice is atrocious.
4. Letting Samuel Jackson play Mace Windu is the worst choice.
Wes Hutchings
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In article <376B64F7...@one.net.au>, kong <ko...@one.net.au> wrote:
> 1. Putting Jar Jar in TPM was one of his biggest mistakes.
Imagine the film without him. Take away all of his dialog and all the things
that are asociated with his being in the scenes and then replay them in your
head. Are you bored yet?
> 2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
What would you call him? Kin?
> 3. Letting the future Darth Vader say Yippee twice is atrocious.
That was just silly
> 4. Letting Samuel Jackson play Mace Windu is the worst choice.
Sam needs to learn how to other things besides say motherf**ker.
George was nice enough to give him a part. Sam wet himself.
wes
Mike
>1. Putting Jar Jar in TPM was one of his biggest mistakes.
I liked Jar Jar.
>2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
I agree.
>3. Letting the future Darth Vader say Yippee twice is atrocious.
I also didn't like that.
>4. Letting Samuel Jackson play Mace Windu is the worst choice.
I thought Samuel L. Jackson did a fine job playing the part of Mace
Windu.
>
>
>
Joe Eisma
> 1. Putting Jar Jar in TPM was one of his biggest mistakes.
> 2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
> 3. Letting the future Darth Vader say Yippee twice is atrocious.
> 4. Letting Samuel Jackson play Mace Windu is the worst choice.
yeah!!! why did george lucas even make this movie?! huh? what a
waste! i want my money back! and i want george to give it to me and
apologize!
of course, i'm being sarcastic;-p
Joe
DeadWorld
>
> 1. Putting Jar Jar in TPM was one of his biggest mistakes.
how is that? he may of came close but he didnt ruin the movie.
> 2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
its called a nick name.
> 3. Letting the future Darth Vader say Yippee twice is atrocious.
he's just alittle kid? what does little kids say? YIPPIE!
> 4. Letting Samuel Jackson play Mace Windu is the worst choice.
That was the shit!
the question is..... WHAT THE HELL WAS YOU THINKING?!!??!?!!?
DeadWorld
DeadWorld
DeadWorld
Arica
kong wrote:
>
> 1. Putting Jar Jar in TPM was one of his biggest mistakes.
I liked Jar Jar.
> 2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
I thought it was kind of funny.
> 3. Letting the future Darth Vader say Yippee twice is atrocious.
*Shudders* I agree.
> 4. Letting Samuel Jackson play Mace Windu is the worst choice.
Willie Nelson would be worse.
-Arica
Darth Scooter
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> In article <376B64F7...@one.net.au>, kong <ko...@one.net.au> wrote:
>
>
>> 1. Putting Jar Jar in TPM was one of his biggest mistakes.
>
things
> that are asociated with his being in the scenes and then replay them in
your
> head. Are you bored yet?
What was needed was better writing and storytelling. In my opinion, the
whole Jar Jar/Gungan could have been written in a less ridiculous way. I
understand the GL thought the idea of symbiosis was an important theme of
the movie. I agree, but think that the catering to children aspects are
completely unnecessary. When I was a child I loved ANH and TESB. Neither
of these movies catered as flagrently to viewers with childish characters as
did TPM or ROTJ.
> > 2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
>
> What would you call him? Kin?
I agree. Having other characters refer to young Anakin as "Ani" is very
appropriate. We don't know (at least we're not supposed to know if we
follow the story in chronological order) that Anakin becomes Vader. By
refering to Anakin by a cute nickname, it helps to endear him to us and make
his eventual fall even my tragic.
> > 3. Letting the future Darth Vader say Yippee twice is atrocious.
>
> That was just silly
Maybe, but see above.
> > 4. Letting Samuel Jackson play Mace Windu is the worst choice.
>
> Sam needs to learn how to other things besides say motherf**ker.
> George was nice enough to give him a part. Sam wet himself.
I wouldn't say it was the worst choice. Again, Sam just needs better
writing and scenes that allow him to demonstrate his talents. Well, maybe
not the "motherf**cker" parts!
> wes
DeadWorld
> Willie Nelson would be worse.
>
> -Arica
no! Willie Smith would be worse! muhahaha!
deadworld
Chris Olin
Mike wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:37:59 +1000, kong <ko...@one.net.au> wrote:
>
> >1. Putting Jar Jar in TPM was one of his biggest mistakes.
>
> I liked Jar Jar.
>
> >2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
>
> I agree.
What would you expect his freinds to call him?
>
>
> >3. Letting the future Darth Vader say Yippee twice is atrocious.
>
> I also didn't like that.
>
And what you expect a 10 yr old to say?...."Muhahaha" would seem
euqlly out of character.
I think your real proablem is that the dark lord we all know and
despise was once an ordinary kid...WEll ordinary expect for that whole
no farther thing...
Chris
Mike
wrote:
>
>
>Mike wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:37:59 +1000, kong <ko...@one.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> >1. Putting Jar Jar in TPM was one of his biggest mistakes.
>>
>> I liked Jar Jar.
>>
>> >2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
>>
>> I agree.
>
> What would you expect his freinds to call him?
How about Anakin? Not everybody needs a shorter version of their name.
Annie is a girls name and Lucas gave it to the future Darth Vader!
>
>>
>>
>> >3. Letting the future Darth Vader say Yippee twice is atrocious.
>>
>> I also didn't like that.
>>
>
> And what you expect a 10 yr old to say?...."Muhahaha" would seem
>euqlly out of character.
>
> I think your real proablem is that the dark lord we all know and
>despise was once an ordinary kid...WEll ordinary expect for that whole
>no farther thing...
>
>Chris
Yippee is still a gay thing to say even for a little kid. I think it
makes Anakin look like a fruitcake when he says it.
DeadWorld
>
> On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 13:00:23 -0500, Chris Olin <cho...@ix.netcom.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Mike wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:37:59 +1000, kong <ko...@one.net.au> wrote:
> >>
> >> >1. Putting Jar Jar in TPM was one of his biggest mistakes.
> >>
> >> I liked Jar Jar.
> >>
> >> >2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
> >>
> >> I agree.
> >
> > What would you expect his freinds to call him?
>
> Annie is a girls name and Lucas gave it to the future Darth Vader!
get off it all ready mikey.
> Yippee is still a gay thing to say even for a little kid.
so i guess your children that say yippie will end up like father huh?
> I think it makes Anakin look like a fruitcake when he says it.
whatever bottle-nose.
DEADWORLD
The Doctor [Lou]
<old...@NOSPAM.localbar.com> wrote:
> Yippee is still a gay thing to say even for a little kid. I think it
> makes Anakin look like a fruitcake when he says it.
Oh god... Please. 'Yippee' is more mature than people calling other
people 'fruitcakes'.
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Mike
<galli...@NOearthlingSPAM.net> wrote:
>In article <376be922...@news.orc.ca>, Mike
><old...@NOSPAM.localbar.com> wrote:
>
>> Yippee is still a gay thing to say even for a little kid. I think it
>> makes Anakin look like a fruitcake when he says it.
>
>Oh god... Please. 'Yippee' is more mature than people calling other
>people 'fruitcakes'.
No, actually it isn't
Karrde
Mike wrote in message <376be922...@news.orc.ca>...
>Yippee is still a gay thing to say even for a little kid. I think it
>makes Anakin look like a fruitcake when he says it.
Redneck, homophobic b@stard.
Craig
kong <ko...@one.net.au> wrote in message news:376B64F7...@one.net.au...
> 1. Putting Jar Jar in TPM was one of his biggest mistakes.
Jar Jar was a real character in the script and novelization. In the
original story line he doesn't say "how wude" or act like Curly in the Three
Stooges during the battle sequence. Nor was the fart joke there.
> 2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
Pretty much a non issue. He is not Darth Vader. In the novelization it
becomes obvious that the cute kid is set on his dark path when Qui-Gon is
killed. The original story makes it more obvious that Qui-Gon Jin is a
father figure for Anakin, especially without his mom. When he loses them
both and is taken on by Obi-Wan (who shows him no kindness at all) its the
beginning of the end.
> 3. Letting the future Darth Vader say Yippee twice is atrocious.
Same thing here, although originally in the script he doesn't neccessarily
say yippee he is just a kid.
> 4. Letting Samuel Jackson play Mace Windu is the worst choice.
I have to agree here. He doesn't pull it off at all. And the script has
the same lines as what is said in the movies. When you read them, they seem
like something a wise Jedi would say. Coming from Jackson, they don't seem
that way at all. I think Fishburne (Morpheus from the Matrix) would have
been an execellent choice. Watching the Matrix a second time, he just kinda
struck me as a Jedi type of character that much more after seeing Samuel as
Windu.
MHO.......Cheers.
Velya, Pilot and Gerbil Mistress
kong schrieb in Nachricht <376B64F7...@one.net.au>...
Troll.
Miss V.
Mad Imperial Pilot
Squeak is the path to the gerbil side. Squeak leads to fur, fur leads to
teeth, teeth lead to the enemies' suffering!!!!
Matt
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> In article <376B64F7...@one.net.au>, kong <ko...@one.net.au> wrote:
>
> that are asociated with his being in the scenes and then replay them in your
> head. Are you bored yet?
Actually, last time I saw it I tried to ignore Jar jar and found the
movie quite pleasant "without" him.
What was interesting to me was that last time I saw the movie I was a
few seats away from about 8 kids so I was looking over at them during
the Jar jar scenes to hear their reactions. Didn't get much except for
the tongue scene.
I've heard of more women liking Jar jar than kids at this point.
> > 2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
> What would you call him? Kin?
Just think, when mom dies he can be little orphan Ani :P
> > 3. Letting the future Darth Vader say Yippee twice is atrocious.
>
> That was just silly
Yup. Another for-the-5-year-olds thing.
> > 4. Letting Samuel Jackson play Mace Windu is the worst choice.
> Sam needs to learn how to other things besides say motherf**ker.
> George was nice enough to give him a part. Sam wet himself.
I've seen Sam in movies where he's not saying motherfucker and he's
done well. It would seem to me that he just wasn't getting as much
directorial help on what was needed for the lines. Though I must point
out, as someone did earlier in this group, his "no" reply to Qui-gon was
great (when asked if Anakin was to be trained).
The Doctor [Lou]
<old...@NOSPAM.localbar.com> wrote:
> No, actually it isn't
Yes, actually it is!
Now isn't this mature?!
eddz
>few seats away from about 8 kids so I was looking over at them during
>the Jar jar scenes to hear their reactions. Didn't get much except for
>the tongue scene.
>
>I've heard of more women liking Jar jar than kids at this point.
yes, also because of the tongue ;-)
>> > 2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
>> What would you call him? Kin?
no, Kinny. then in episode 3 everybody can say
"oh my god! they killed Kinny! you bastards!"
>> > 3. Letting the future Darth Vader say Yippee twice is atrocious.
>> That was just silly
>Yup. Another for-the-5-year-olds thing.
I suppose he should have said
"ah, I am truly filled with delight and this
is indubitably a joyous occasion." I'll
wager there would have been just as
many complaints if he acted nothing like
a kid.
>I've seen Sam in movies where he's not saying motherfucker and he's
>done well. It would seem to me that he just wasn't getting as much
>directorial help on what was needed for the lines.
I'm guessing Lucas didn't write too much backstory about
Mace Windu. He was not an integral character. Hopefully
he will be in the next film though.
>Though I must point out, as someone did earlier in this group,
>his "no" reply to Qui-gon was great (when asked if Anakin was
>to be trained).
Yes, I also enjoyed his portrayel of a Jedi saying "no". =p
(e)
The Doctor [Lou]
wrote:
> What was interesting to me was that last time I saw the movie I was a
> few seats away from about 8 kids so I was looking over at them during
> the Jar jar scenes to hear their reactions. Didn't get much except for
> the tongue scene.
>
> I've heard of more women liking Jar jar than kids at this point.
This is only interesting or surprising if you hold to the premise that
Jar Jar sole existence is to entertain and capture the attention of the
children in audience. Jar Jar is there for all ages (for all ages to
enjoy or hate, either or, but for all ages). I don't believe any
character in any of the Star Wars films is specifically targeted to any
one segment of the audience.
sma...@my-deja.com
kong <ko...@one.net.au> wrote:
> 1. Putting Jar Jar in TPM was one of his biggest mistakes.
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> 1. Putting Jar Jar in TPM was one of his biggest mistakes.
> 2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
> 3. Letting the future Darth Vader say Yippee twice is atrocious.
> 4. Letting Samuel Jackson play Mace Windu is the worst choice.
I believe Lucas was thinking, "Hmm.. this guy ko...@one.net.au is about the
biggest prick I know. What can I do that will really piss him off? Ah
yes, I'll put Jar Jar in TPM, I call the future Darth Vader 'Annie', I'll
let the future Darth Vader say 'Yippee' twice, and I'll let Samuel L.
Jackson play Mace Windu."
krazy...@yahoo.com
old...@NOSPAM.localbar.com (Mike) wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 13:00:23 -0500, Chris Olin <cho...@ix.netcom.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Mike wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> >1. Putting Jar Jar in TPM was one of his biggest mistakes.
> >>
> >>
> >> >2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
> >>
> >
> > What would you expect his freinds to call him?
>
> Annie is a girls name and Lucas gave it to the future Darth Vader!
>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > And what you expect a 10 yr old to say?...."Muhahaha" would seem
> >euqlly out of character.
> >
> > I think your real proablem is that the dark lord we all know and
> >despise was once an ordinary kid...WEll ordinary expect for that
whole
> >no farther thing...
> >
> >Chris
>
> makes Anakin look like a fruitcake when he says it.
better than darth mul
krazy...@yahoo.com
sma...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <376B64F7...@one.net.au>,
>
> --
> "Damn your black hide, Barbra Streisand!"
>
times)
The Baron Harkonnen
having a duck as the lead character wasn't too realistic.
Excuse me?
Since when is ANY MOVIE realistic? Even parts in "Saving Private Ryan"
wasn't "realistic"!
It was a funny and interesting movie. People need to relax a little and just
enjoy things for what they are. Wait, I gotta run and flip off a neighbor
now for looking at me funny. See ya!
protoco...@bespin.com wrote in message
<376da86c...@enews.newsguy.com>...
>kong <ko...@one.net.au> wrote:
>
>>1. Putting Jar Jar in TPM was one of his biggest mistakes.
>
>I'm afraid Howard the Duck remains his biggest mistake . . .
>
>
>>2. Calling the future Darth Vader Annie is unforgivable.
>
>I guess you also didn't like the last Indiana Jones, where papa calls
>Indy "Junior."
>
>
>>3. Letting the future Darth Vader say Yippee twice is atrocious.
>
>
>Hey, if you were a little boy, strong with the Force and feeling your
>oats, I'm sure you'd say it too.
>
>>4. Letting Samuel Jackson play Mace Windu is the worst choice.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Nah, he's a bad m*f*er and very kewl.
>
>
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