how many star wars references was there in that final episode?
tnm-collectables
the twin gunners ala the millenium falcon
the space ship powering down not to be detected al the falcon in
empire strikes back
the laser shoot out
time lords sitting round the table - the jedi council
the time lords vote - the imperial senate
i was almost expecting timothy dalton to say 'I am your father' to the
doctor!
Shaun
<toynost...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>the cantina scene with jack
>
Did Captain Jack shoot first ?
Soze
"tnm-collectables" <toynost...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> the cantina scene with jack
>
> the twin gunners ala the millenium falcon
These two certainly struck me.
> the space ship powering down not to be detected al the falcon in
> empire strikes back
>
> the laser shoot out
These two are pretty much stock s/f scenes really...
> time lords sitting round the table - the jedi council
Reminded me more of the grey council in B5...with chairs of course. A
council sitting around a table discussing things is fairly bog standard
practice though!
> the time lords vote - the imperial senate
This bit did look like the imperial senate in those dodgy new Star Wars
films.
> i was almost expecting timothy dalton to say 'I am your father' to the
> doctor!
I was worried that Wilf was going to...
Rob Moir
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Definitely a bit of a homage going on there. All good fun, too.
daibando
that chamber thingy.
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daibando <barcr...@hotmail.com> writes
>Then of course, from Star Trek, there was the nod to Spock's death in
>that chamber thingy.
Don't forget the device used to bring the Time Lords back was a very
Star Gate looking device.
Could RTD be taken to court for "Look and feel" copyright theft ? :-)
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tnm-collectables got out a spraycan and scrawled the following:
The Master/Vader changing allegiance and attacking the emperor just as
he's about to kill the hero. (Though here it's the Master that can
shoot lightning with his hands.)
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Any western bar
>
> the twin gunners ala the millenium falcon
WWII
>
> the space ship powering down not to be detected al the falcon in
> empire strikes back
Shhhhh, keep quiet.
>
> the laser shoot out
Gun fight with lights?
>
> time lords sitting round the table - the jedi council
Greek gods
>
> the time lords vote - the imperial senate
Greek gods again
>
> i was almost expecting timothy dalton to say 'I am your father' to the
> doctor!
That says somehting about your lack of imagination, and frankly my inability
to remember an earlier classical reference.
Star Wars was not original in its plot. Every part of it had been done
before. The only original thing was the level execution. Lucas himself
described Star Wars as Cowboys and Indians in space.
Its you had any education and class, you'd be comparing every Dr Who scene
with the classics. There is no such thing as a truly original show any more.
As for you thinking all these refer exclusively to Star Wars, well, sadly
that just shows how limited your knowledge of literature is.
AC
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> "tnm-collectables" <toynostalgia...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > the cantina scene with jack
>
> Any western bar
That's what Star Wars drew its inspiration from, but the specific
allusions to SW here were too obvious - even the android looked like a
bluish version of C3P0.
> > the twin gunners ala the millenium falcon
>
> WWII
I have to say, it looked more like an old bomber than the Falcon.
> > time lords sitting round the table - the jedi council
>
> Greek gods
In Star Wars costumes?
> > the time lords vote - the imperial senate
>
> Greek gods again
Still in Jedi costumes.
> Star Wars was not original in its plot. Every part of it had been done
> before. The only original thing was the level execution. Lucas himself
> described Star Wars as Cowboys and Indians in space.
>
> Its you had any education and class, you'd be comparing every Dr Who scene
> with the classics.
Why? For the most part the writers pinching these scenes didn't, and
they took their inspiration from the most well-recognised pop culture
variants thereof. It's a non sequitur that because the Star Wars
cantina, for instance, is based on a Western saloon, therefore because
the cantina here is based on Star Wars, it is also based on a Western
saloon. The Greek myths themselves are just the versions we most
readily recognise of stories that were 'plagiarised' from their
ancestors with the addition of new imagery.
Phil
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That glove thing scared the living daylights out of me ;-)
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> In message
> <03d13101-0c7b-4b37...@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> daibando <barcr...@hotmail.com> writes
> >Then of course, from Star Trek, there was the nod to Spock's death in
> >that chamber thingy.
>
> Don't forget the device used to bring the Time Lords back was a very
> Star Gate looking device.
And that little spaceship was awfully similar to Starbug.
Rob Moir
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> As for you thinking all these refer exclusively to Star Wars, well, sadly
> that just shows how limited your knowledge of literature is.
I don't think that each of those references could only refer to Star Wars.
The collection of them all in one episode of one show is rather suggestive.
Raymond Daley
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Kinda like I was waiting for Wilf & green cactus guy to do the "I got one!"
"Dont get cocky kid" routine from the end of ANH.
I was also half expecting someone to say they had a bad feeling about this.
Raymond Daley
> daibando <barcr...@hotmail.com> writes
>>Then of course, from Star Trek, there was the nod to Spock's death in
>>that chamber thingy.
> Don't forget the device used to bring the Time Lords back was a very Star
> Gate looking device.
> Could RTD be taken to court for "Look and feel" copyright theft ? :-)
No, because Apple never won theirs either. But then again unlike Gates,
Jobs & Wozniak never (alledgedly) bribed a judge for a million dollars in
cash.
Bill Gates will deny he did it too. Try to even Google "Look & Feel
lawsuit" theres no existant record of it ANYWHERE online.
Its amazing what money can make go away, eh?
You wont find many of us that still remember it. Actually you are the 1st
person other than myself whose ever heard of it.
And there was me thinking I was the only one who still remembered and held
it against him ;-)
Were you aware of the alledged bribe?
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When is Star Wars E7 ever going to be done?
Jethro
> "Edward Cowling London UK" <TV_...@genghis0.demon.co.uk> wrote
>
Weren't the waters muddied by the fact that Rank-Xerox (as 'twas)
developed a WIMP interface in the late 60s ?
Rob Moir
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>>
>> As for you thinking all these refer exclusively to Star Wars, well, sadly
>> that just shows how limited your knowledge of literature is.
>
> I don't think that each of those references could only refer to Star Wars.
... and watching Dr Who confidential right now, RTD has mentioned "making
Wilf/Bernard Cribbens like Luke Skywalker" which kinda suggests that was in
his mind. Though the dambusters theme was playing in the background during
that scene on confidential, so who knows?
Raymond Daley
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As far as I remember no because the guy who developed that went on to work
with Mr Gates at IBM where Gates claimed he developed the idea.
slitheen
Of course. And were it not for Forbidden Planet, there'd be no Star
Trek....and likely not much, if any, modern day science fiction TV on
your telly. Roddenberry got the idea of Starfleet from that movie,
which in turn inspired his 'wagon train to the stars' concept. No Star
Trek and I reckon you could kiss goodbye to pretty much all that came
after it in the way of TV sci-fi. Three cheers for taking influence!
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> On 2 Jan, 15:02, "AC" <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Its you had any education and class, you'd be comparing every Dr Who
>> scene with the classics. There is no such thing as a truly original
>> show any more.
>>
>> As for you thinking all these refer exclusively to Star Wars, well,
>> sadly that just shows how limited your knowledge of literature is.
>>
>> AC
>
> Of course. And were it not for Forbidden Planet, there'd be no Star
> Trek....
"Forbidden Planet" was pretty much Shakespeare's "The Tempest" in a
science-fiction context.
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Raymond Daley
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> slitheen wrote:
>> Of course. And were it not for Forbidden Planet, there'd be no Star
>> Trek....
> "Forbidden Planet" was pretty much Shakespeare's "The Tempest" in a
> science-fiction context.
No "pretty much" about it Enzo, Forbidden Planet is exactly The Tempest.
BTW, Enzo Matrix = Reboot?
Seriously excellent show that was ;-)
solar penguin
Yads said:
> In article <7qci1t...@mid.individual.net>,
> Enzo Matrix <enz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Forbidden Planet" was pretty much Shakespeare's "The Tempest" in a
> >science-fiction context.
> >
> >--
> >
>
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No, that's the Scottish play, not The Tempest. Have you been taking
"getting Shakespearean references wrong" lessons from Aggy?
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Duggy
<gkenning...@potatojunkie.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> The Master/Vader changing allegiance and attacking the emperor just as
> he's about to kill the hero. (Though here it's the Master that can
> shoot lightning with his hands.)
Yeap.
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= DUG.
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Duggy
> > the cantina scene with jack
> Any western bar
Nah, Western Bars usually have a long bar against a side wall... this
was a circular bar... and a lot of aliens and their positioning were
similar.
> > the twin gunners ala the millenium falcon
> WWII
Which is where ANH drew them from, but... I don't know it felt
strongly of SW.
> > time lords sitting round the table - the jedi council
> Greek gods
Any many others.
> > the time lords vote - the imperial senate
> Greek gods again
I can't think of any flaoting-discs examples from Greek Gods films.
> As for you thinking all these refer exclusively to Star Wars, well, sadly
> that just shows how limited your knowledge of literature is.
In this case some of them were pretty clear.
You can reference something without it being about the things that it
references.
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= DUG.
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Duggy
> When is Star Wars E7 ever going to be done?
Never.
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Duggy
> "Forbidden Planet" was pretty much Shakespeare's "The Tempest" in a
> science-fiction context.
It was a SF version of The Tempest.
Like the Fantasy Island remake.
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Same with the extended DW RTD goodbye.
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Shaun <shaun.ja...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 03:04:50 -0800 (PST), tnm-collectables
><toynost...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>the cantina scene with jack
>>
Boo!