George Lucas
Mats Gustavsson
Hi!
Do you think that the Star Wars books written by Timothy Zahn and other
writers really are Star Wars? I mean, George Lucas is the father of SW and
he has created all characters, planets, ships and the story with the jedi
knights and so on. The books are just created by writers who tries to build
up the Star Wars story more and more...
I mean, I can write a book with Luke and Leia in it and call it Star Wars,
but the story and the things in that book isn愒 SW, it愀 just my
imagination. I want Star Wars books and movies, of course, but if it愀 not
created by George Lucas, it愀 not really Star Wars in my eyes.
Mats Gustavsson
Human Torch (flame on!)
them, then don't read them. Of course since they do take place in continuity they are
an official part of the SW universe and if George Lucas didn't think they fit within his
original plan I don't think they would be written.
-Thomas McGrath
-Dragonfirre-
Rich Handley
The problem with this line of thinking is that it overlooks the fact that Lucas approves of all
books and comics that come out with the SW name on them. Furthermore, Lucas only soleley created
the first film -- others helped flesh out the sequels. Does that mean the sequels don't count
either? See what I mean? Lucas has sanctioned all of the books, comics, etc., and his outlook on
it is that as long as they aren't contradicted by anything on film, they can be accepted as having
happened.
The immortal "Mats Gustavsson" <aamt.gu...@vaggeryd.mail.telia.com> wrote:
>Do you think that the Star Wars books written by Timothy Zahn and other
>writers really are Star Wars? I mean, George Lucas is the father of SW and
>he has created all characters, planets, ships and the story with the jedi
>knights and so on. The books are just created by writers who tries to build
>up the Star Wars story more and more...
>I mean, I can write a book with Luke and Leia in it and call it Star Wars,
>but the story and the things in that book isn愒 SW, it愀 just my
>imagination. I want Star Wars books and movies, of course, but if it愀 not
>created by George Lucas, it愀 not really Star Wars in my eyes.
Later!
Rich Handley (Card...@unix.asb.com)
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Li Casanova
"Mats Gustavsson" <aamt.gu...@vaggeryd.mail.telia.com> wrote:
>Hi!
>Do you think that the Star Wars books written by Timothy Zahn and other
>writers really are Star Wars? I mean, George Lucas is the father of SW and
>he has created all characters, planets, ships and the story with the jedi
>knights and so on. The books are just created by writers who tries to build
>up the Star Wars story more and more...
Exactly. George Lucas, who has been over this himself, has said that
he decided the fate of the Star Wars Universe would best be continued
in books and lore to be contributed by other authors, imaginative and
brilliant. Everything goes through GL (as I've said somewhere on the
group before) for his creative critique, control, and input.
>I mean, I can write a book with Luke and Leia in it and call it Star Wars,
>but the story and the things in that book isn愒 SW, it愀 just my
>imagination. I want Star Wars books and movies, of course, but if it愀 not
>created by George Lucas, it愀 not really Star Wars in my eyes.
>Mats Gustavsson
To each his own, I suppose, but you can rest assured, Mats, that
nothing is out there that doesn't have Mr. Lucas' seal of approval.
He edits, revises, and offers new ideas on all Star Wars mediums,
especially the literary aspect of it as well. Cool, huh? Although
it's true that some of the books and comics are outstanding (the
initial Zahn Trilogy, Truce at Bakura, Courtship of Princess Leia,
Dark Empire), others are extremely weak (Jedi Academy Trilogy,
Corellian Trilogy, Children of the Jedi, even Shadows). Things like
Shadows of the Empire could have really been well done, and I guess
maybe if GL had a little more to do with the actual storytelling, they
would have been.
Yet, one man can only do so much, and he's done (and is doing) so much
for us already!
Li
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Li Casanova
Card...@unix.asb.com (Rich Handley) wrote:
>The problem with this line of thinking is that it overlooks the fact that Lucas approves of all
>books and comics that come out with the SW name on them.
Correct.
> Furthermore, Lucas only soleley created
>the first film -- others helped flesh out the sequels. Does that mean the sequels don't count
>either? See what I mean?
Incorrect!! Mr. Lucas had, in manuscript, the full story written from
the Clone Wars to Jedi, deciding that he would take the middle (A New
Hope) both to publication and later to the Silver Screen.
If one were to read the book, which was published before the movie as
"Star Wars: The Adventures of Luke Skywalker" they would probably
think : 'Hey, this is better than the movie!' Good thing many people
didn't know it was out there...:->
>Lucas has sanctioned all of the books, comics, etc., and his outlook on
>it is that as long as they aren't contradicted by anything on film, they can be accepted as having
>happened.
>Later!
> Rich Handley (Card...@unix.asb.com)
>Visit "The Exhaustive Guide to Star Wars Comics"
> at http://www.asb.com/usr/cardsafe/intro.htm
Correct, man. But, he has the sole right to abolish any and all of the
events after Jedi if he chooses.
Karl Kindt 4.0
In article <01bbff33$c5abb480$13b9ecc2@aamt>, "Mats Gustavsson"
<aamt.gu...@vaggeryd.mail.telia.com> wrote:
> Do you think that the Star Wars books written by Timothy Zahn and other
> writers really are Star Wars? I mean, George Lucas is the father of SW and
> he has created all characters, planets, ships and the story with the jedi
> knights and so on. The books are just created by writers who tries to build
> up the Star Wars story more and more...
> I mean, I can write a book with Luke and Leia in it and call it Star Wars,
> but the story and the things in that book isn´t SW, it´s just my
> imagination. I want Star Wars books and movies, of course, but if it´s not
> created by George Lucas, it´s not really Star Wars in my eyes.
You are talking about the difference between what is termed "canon Star
Wars" and everything else. Canon material is genuine material from the
movies as we have seen them. Anything else is non-canon.
The novel of the first movie (A NEW HOPE, also referred to as STAR WARS,
ANH, etc.) called STAR WARS that is credited to George Lucas as author was
actually ghost-written by Alan Dean Foster.
I mostly agree with you, as do all STAR WARS purists. The other stuff is
fun, but it is frivolous when it comes down to it. I tried to read the
first novel by Zahn. I could not finish it. It is as you say.
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Mark L. Shute
Mats Gustavsson wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Do you think that the Star Wars books written by Timothy Zahn and other
> writers really are Star Wars? I mean, George Lucas is the father of SW and
> he has created all characters, planets, ships and the story with the jedi
> knights and so on. The books are just created by writers who tries to build
> up the Star Wars story more and more...
> I mean, I can write a book with Luke and Leia in it and call it Star Wars,
> imagination. I want Star Wars books and movies, of course, but if it愀 not
> created by George Lucas, it愀 not really Star Wars in my eyes.
>
> Mats Gustavsson
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Mats,
The Zahn Trilogy, and all of the recently released SW novels for that matter,
were all licensed by Lucas (he controls the trademarks after all). Lucas
selected the authors for each project himself, and he assigned each a "time
frame" afte the Battle of Endor in which to write and he provided each with a
writer's "bible" desrcibing what was and was not allowed subject matter. For
instance, none of the books describes the Clone Wars in any great detail,
because the Clone Wars are the subject of the first (next) three movies. None
of the books will deal with Anakin Solo as an adult because he will most likely
be the focal character of the last three movies.
I also had concerns about the books being "not really Star Wars" until I
discovered just how involved Lucas was in the production of those books. So go
ahead and enjoy with the confidence that what you are reading is 100% sactioned
by George himself.
-Mark
Rich Handley
The immortal ava...@icon-stl.net (Karl Kindt 4.0) wrote:
>You are talking about the difference between what is termed "canon Star
>Wars" and everything else. Canon material is genuine material from the
>movies as we have seen them. Anything else is non-canon.
>The novel of the first movie (A NEW HOPE, also referred to as STAR WARS,
>ANH, etc.) called STAR WARS that is credited to George Lucas as author was
>actually ghost-written by Alan Dean Foster.
>I mostly agree with you, as do all STAR WARS purists. The other stuff is
>fun, but it is frivolous when it comes down to it. I tried to read the
>first novel by Zahn. I could not finish it. It is as you say.
The irony, of course, being that not even Lucasfilm agrees with this. Their stance is that the
books and comics DO count, unless outright contradicted by the movies.
Rich Handley
The immortal yg...@frankenstein.com (Johnny) wrote:
>the only things that aren't are the Marvel series, droids cartoon. i don't
>know that for sure.
This, too, has changed -- Marvel has been acknowledged in many SW tales, especially the WEG
materials, but most recently in Boba Fett: Twin Engines of Destruction. In addition, the Droids
cartoons are canonized in the Shadows of the Empire CD packet.
Johnny
> You are talking about the difference between what is termed "canon Star
> Wars" and everything else. Canon material is genuine material from the
> movies as we have seen them. Anything else is non-canon.
>
not true. the previous message is correct in saying there is a STAR WARS bible.
at one point lucasfilm decided they needed to put everything in some sort
of STAR WARS universe order or CANON. and acutually almost all of the STAR
WARS material is in the canon especially the new books.
the only things that aren't are the Marvel series, droids cartoon. i don't
know that for sure.
pink
K K Chow
>> Mats GustavssonWell, i really like the novels, and comics, personally but if you don't really like
>them, then don't read them. Of course since they do take place in continuity they are
>an official part of the SW universe and if George Lucas didn't think they fit within his
>original plan I don't think they would be written.
>-Thomas McGrath
>-Dragonfirre-
The novels are the best thing that's happened to the Star Wars
universe - after StarWars Special Edition, that is. Of course, this is
IMO only. They're written with permission, so wouldn't that make it
official? After all, if you don't, you violate copyright. But this is
just a starwars fan rambling along.....
Irene
ShadowDancer