How's it going?
Smiley
I thought it might be appropriate to have a thread dedicated to people
talking about how many emblems they have gotten, how many A Ranks they had,
how their Chao were doing, what characters they were focusing on, etc. This
would not only allow for much shameless bragging, but would also allow those
having trouble to ask a person who they know has already completed that
part.
I like to help, really I do, especially when this stuff is fresh in my mind.
I'm even working on an FAQ. I like giving hints, too, to those who are stuck
but don't want to just give up completely.
Think it's a good idea, or do you think it's just a ploy for the shameless
braggarts of this newsgroup to strut and fret? And if you think it's the
second possibility, how much less would you think of me if I went ahead and
did it anyway?
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(I fear this will backfire, when it turns out everyone got their final
emblems weeks ago...)
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Timestones
rank, including Green Forest, City Escape, Prison Lane, Dry Lagoon, and White
Jungle. The later stages are more of a challenge, but I think I'll be able to
whip those with time and practice.
There are a couple of places, however, that are so frustratingly difficult to
get A ranks on that I'm literally bouncing off the wall with them! The driving
stages, especially (cause I suck at driving games), but none more irritating
than Metal Harbor and Sky Rail. Just what the hell does it take to get an A
rank in those stages, anyway!?
Uh, other than that, I'm fine, though.
Timestones (BTW, anyone know which stage is best for getting Yellow Chaos
Drives and animals?)
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QotM:
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Phillip Roncoroni
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>
> I thought it might be appropriate to have a thread dedicated to people
> talking about how many emblems they have gotten, how many A Ranks they
had,
> how their Chao were doing, what characters they were focusing on, etc.
This
> would not only allow for much shameless bragging, but would also allow
those
> having trouble to ask a person who they know has already completed that
> part.
>
> I like to help, really I do, especially when this stuff is fresh in my
mind.
> I'm even working on an FAQ. I like giving hints, too, to those who are
stuck
> but don't want to just give up completely.
>
> Think it's a good idea, or do you think it's just a ploy for the shameless
> braggarts of this newsgroup to strut and fret? And if you think it's the
> second possibility, how much less would you think of me if I went ahead
and
> did it anyway?
>
City Escape: A, A, A, A, A
Radical Highway: A, A, A, A, A
Route 101 C, A, B
Route 280 D, D, C
Mission Street A, C, A, A, A
Aquatic Mine A, A, A, A
White Jungle A, A, A, A, A
Green Forest A, A, A, A, A
Security Hall A, A
Prison Lane A, C, A, A, A
Iron Gate A, A, A, A, A
Pumpkin Hill A, A, A, A, A
Sky Rail A, A, A, A, A
Wild Canyon A, A, A, A, A
Dry Lagoon A, A, A, A
Weapons Bed A, A, A, A, C
Metal Harbor A, A, A, A, A
Sand Ocean A, A, A, A, A
Egg Quarters A, A, A, A
Death Chamber D, C
Pyramid Cave A, A, A, B, D
Hidden Base A, D, A, A, A
Meteor Herd E, A, B
Cosmic Wall A, B
Eternal Engine A, A, A
Lost Colony A, A
Mad Space E, E, A, B
Cannon's Core E, B
Final Rush A, C, D, D, E
Final Chase E, C
Crazy Gadget E, A, C, C
Kart Race:
"Beginner" - 2:09:88
Standard - Can't beat
Expert - Hell no.
Boss:
Hero Side - 15:10:04
Dark Side - Not yet
All - Not yet
Chao emblems: 3
Total emblems: 132/180
Time: 65hr 11min 38sec
Total A's: 94
Chao data: (my new Chao since the old ones were killed)
"Chao Data Sheet.txt"
~~~~~~~~~~
GoodCow: Flute, Song, Exercise, Cymbals, Drawing, Shake Dance
Bill: Flute, Song, Exercise, Cymbals, Drawing, Shake Dance
?: (leave in neutral garden for now)
GoodCow: (Raccoons)
SWM: 119
FLY: 75
RUN: 22
PWR: 28
LCK: 000
INT: 15
STA: 44
Billy: (Skunks)
SWM: 52
FLY: 74
RUN: 72
PWR: 51
LCK: 000
INT: 15
STA: 35
WALKS:
GoodCow: 3
Billy: 2
RACES:
GoodCow:
- Beginner Races
- Crab Pool: 1, 2, 3
- Stump Valley: 1, 2, 3
- Mushroom Forest: 1
- Block Canyon: 1, 2, 3
Billy:
- Beginner Races
- Crab Pool: 1, 2, 3
- Stump Valley: 1, 2, 3
- Mushroom Forest:
- Block Canyon: 1, 2, 3
Toys:
GoodCow: Shovel, Toy Car, Watering Can
Billy: Shovel, Toy Car, Watering Can
~~~~~~~~~~
Yay.
I don't think I'll ever beat the Kart racing... I just suck at driving
games.
Questions:
- Security Hall: Mission 3
How do I get the Chao? I can see it, I just can't reach it.
- Death Chamber: Mission 3
I go underwater and everything, and even find a timer and I can hear some
passage closing, but don't know what to do/where the Chao is.
- Cannon's Core: Mission 3
Which character finds the Chao?
- Crazy Gadget: Mission 5
How do you beat the "maze" on Hard mode?
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cycle <aC_37.4772$l%.2821587@typhoon2.gnilink.net>, a thought entity that
refers to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
>I don't think I'll ever beat the Kart racing... I just suck at driving
>games.
I hear ya. I think I'll just get my racing-freak friend to give me a hand
with that one.
I've answered two of your questions - scroll down slowly to get
progressively more help...
>Questions:
>- Security Hall: Mission 3
>How do I get the Chao? I can see it, I just can't reach it.
Hint 1: It's just a matter of getting enough height and gliding to it.
Hint 2: Leaping off the walls won't give you enough height. Look for
something else.
Hint 3: Try looking around with your Vision Scope.
Solution: When you first reach the upper level, climb to that upper ledge -
you know, the one with all the lasers. The middle security switch area. Put
on your vision scope. There should be a spring right near you (near the "B"
label). Use the spring and a well-timed glide to reach the Chao.
>- Death Chamber: Mission 3
>I go underwater and everything, and even find a timer and I can hear
>some passage closing, but don't know what to do/where the Chao is.
Solution to the problem you're facing right now: Hit the timer, then swim to
the other side of the chamber you're in. The door is on the wall on the
opposite side.
Complete solution 1: First, find the timer. Hit the timer. Now, quickly swim
to the other side of the area you're in, and you'll see a closing passage on
the wall. Swim through it quickly. You'll have to pass through two more
rooms, one with an E-100 model and another filled with ghosts before you
reach a giant "inverted" chamber.
Complete solution 2: You need to locate two things in this room - a switch
on the ceiling and passage leading upward. Hit the switch, then quickly swim
through the passage and onto dry land.
Complete solution 3:
Now (yes, there's more), look ahead of you - you'll notice an hourglass in a
wall compartment and a sliding wall above it. You have to climb over to the
hourglass, hit it, get back to the straight wall at the back of the chamber,
gain a little height, then glide/climb over to the Chao behind the sliding
wall.
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PSO: Talinar, the RAmar in Red
Smiley
that refers to itself as Timestones:
>Timestones (BTW, anyone know which stage is best for getting Yellow
>Chaos Drives and animals?)
I reccomend trying all the "watery" stages (Metal Harbor, Weapons Bed,
Aquatic Mine, etc.) and also some of the space levels. There are a few
flying (?) seals in Meteor Herd, I know. Going by this method, Sonic's
Cannon Core must be loaded with them...
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-Smiley
PSO: Talinar, the RAmar in Red
Smiley
refers to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
>Radical Highway: A, A, A, A, A
A question of my own - HOW? How did you get an "A" on the 4th Mission? When
I finally reached the end in time, I had 2:50 on the clock and ended up with
a C rank. I doubt an extra 9 seconds devoted to picking up Chaos Drives
would've helped me much.
I used the Light Speed Dash whenever it was beneficial, I took the high
route over the bridge (though I can't imagine waiting out the electrical
beetle is the fastest method)... is it a matter of spin-dashing? It doesn't
seem nearly as good as it was in Sonic Adventure, especially since Shadow is
forced to go through a lot of loops (the uphill parts seem to kill your
speed if you're not running) in this level.
Is there some other secret?
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-Smiley
PSO: Talinar, the RAmar in Red
Phillip Roncoroni
> The Hive Mind detected the following irregular thought patterns from
> cycle <aC_37.4772$l%.2821587@typhoon2.gnilink.net>, a thought entity that
> refers to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
>
> >Radical Highway: A, A, A, A, A
>
> A question of my own - HOW? How did you get an "A" on the 4th Mission?
When
> I finally reached the end in time, I had 2:50 on the clock and ended up
with
> a C rank. I doubt an extra 9 seconds devoted to picking up Chaos Drives
> would've helped me much.
>
> I used the Light Speed Dash whenever it was beneficial, I took the high
> route over the bridge (though I can't imagine waiting out the electrical
> beetle is the fastest method)... is it a matter of spin-dashing? It
doesn't
> seem nearly as good as it was in Sonic Adventure, especially since Shadow
is
> forced to go through a lot of loops (the uphill parts seem to kill your
> speed if you're not running) in this level.
>
> Is there some other secret?
2,200 points jsut for this:
1. Instead of swinging on the pole, then jumping, and attacking the beetles
to cross:
a) I run along the edge of the bridge to cross.
b) Then I attack the enemy that drops down near the springs.
c) Then attack the golden bettle for 1,000 points.
d) Grind down the *right* of the bridge, not the left, while holding "B" for
extra speed.
e) Jump off at the edge for a 1,000 point trick, and you'll snag a one-up
for a 200 point bonus.
Mission 4:
Best time: 2:55:44
Best ring: 171
Best score: 14,290
No. of Plays: 4
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>
Phillip Roncoroni
> The Hive Mind detected the following irregular thought patterns from
> cycle <aC_37.4772$l%.2821587@typhoon2.gnilink.net>, a thought entity that
> refers to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
>
> >Radical Highway: A, A, A, A, A
>
> A question of my own - HOW? How did you get an "A" on the 4th Mission?
When
> I finally reached the end in time, I had 2:50 on the clock and ended up
with
> a C rank. I doubt an extra 9 seconds devoted to picking up Chaos Drives
> would've helped me much.
>
> I used the Light Speed Dash whenever it was beneficial, I took the high
> route over the bridge (though I can't imagine waiting out the electrical
> beetle is the fastest method)... is it a matter of spin-dashing? It
doesn't
> seem nearly as good as it was in Sonic Adventure, especially since Shadow
is
> forced to go through a lot of loops (the uphill parts seem to kill your
> speed if you're not running) in this level.
>
> Is there some other secret?
Oh, also:
Knuckles: Aquatic Mine: Hard
"Almost reaching the ceiling."
""Water-Powered Lift" hall."
"Put them on the pulley."
I can *see* the third emerald but can't figure out how to get it with the
hints above. I can't see any hidden springs with the sunglasses either.
*just got the Security Hall Chao, and beat missions 3-5 of Cosmic Wall with
A's* :)
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>
Smiley
entity that refers to itself as Smiley:
Last night, I finished the last of Knuckles' missions and got all of
Knuckles' A Ranks nearly back-to-back. Having already gotten the last of
Eggman's A Ranks a while ago and all of Shadow's missions not too long ago,
I'm now a bit stuck on what to do next.
I know I won't be finishing all of Tails' or Rouge's missions anytime soon,
as they both have driving levels. My problem is 50% that I suck at driving
games and 50% that I have no patience for driving games. So my lives will be
spent thusly:
-----------------------------------------------------------
[Route 280 - Don't Touch the Walls!]
Life 1: Hit wall 15 seconds into course.
Life 2: Ran out of time 2 seconds before finishing level.
Life 3: Hit wall 21 seconds into course.
Life 4: Hit wall 41 seconds into course.
Life 5: Hit wall 7 seconds into course.
[back to selection screen, reload course]
Life 6: Hit wall 15 seconds into course.
Life 7: Hit wall 2 minutes, 58 seconds into course.
Life 8: Hit wall before starting course.
Life 9: Hit wall 2 minutes, 57 seconds into course.
Life 10: Ran out of time 5 seconds before finishing level.
[back to selection screen, reload course]
Life 11: DC loads City Escape instead to spare my feelings. A Rank!
-----------------------------------------------------------
I want to save Sonic and Shadow's A-Ranks for last, as they seem by far the
hardest to collect. I suppose I'll go after Sonic's missions. He may have
50% more levels than Shadow, but he's the last character who still has
unfinished missions and doesn't have a driving stage.
My emblem results table looks really funny. While I've gotten all A's on
City Escape, I haven't completed any more of Sonic's 2nd missions. I've
completed all of Tails' first missions and the 2nd mission for Prison Lane,
but that's it for him. Rouge has about 2/3rds of her emblems (give me Meteor
Herd over Mad Space any day).
Final Tally: 116 Emblems, 75 A Ranks.
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PSO: Talinar, the RAmar in Red
Smiley
refers to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
>> Is there some other secret?
>
>2,200 points jsut for this:
>
>1. Instead of swinging on the pole, then jumping, and attacking the
>beetles to cross:
>a) I run along the edge of the bridge to cross.
Funny, I actually used to do that before I realized you could use the swing.
This should save me quite a bit of time, even though I was already getting
the 1,000 golden beetle and another 1,000 for performing a trick.
Thanks for the help!
Smiley
that refers to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
>Knuckles: Aquatic Mine: Hard
>
>"Almost reaching the ceiling."
>""Water-Powered Lift" hall."
>"Put them on the pulley."
>
>I can *see* the third emerald but can't figure out how to get it with
>the hints above. I can't see any hidden springs with the sunglasses
>either.
That's the 3rd emerald? Isn't that the 2nd? You are talking about the one
near the ceiling of the main room, right? If so...
Hint 1: Yes, you'll need your sunglasses.
Hint 2: Look at the barriers around the Emerald. Where would the spring have
to fire you from?
Hint 3: The spring is on a high place.
Solution: The spring is near the giant, spinning wheel on the right side of
the room. Climb up and stand on the girder on the left side, facing away
from the wall. Slap on your sunglasses, then hit the spring.
>*just got the Security Hall Chao, and beat missions 3-5 of Cosmic Wall
>with A's* :)
Isn't Cosmic Wall fun? Low gravity plus loads of targets!
Phillip Roncoroni
> The Hive Mind detected the following irregular thought patterns from
> cycle <Xns90DE87BD3D0DSm...@207.217.77.21>, a thought
> entity that refers to itself as Smiley:
>
> Last night, I finished the last of Knuckles' missions and got all of
> Knuckles' A Ranks nearly back-to-back.
I don't see how I'll be able to beat Meteor Herd, let alone get A's. If I
jsut wander the massive level waiting for the hot/cold meter to go off, I'll
run out of time, but then if I use hints I won't get an A. =(
> Having already gotten the last of
> Eggman's A Ranks a while ago
Still not sure where the Chao is in Lost Colony even though I spent 30
minutes looking for it. Weapons Bed on Hard is also a pain.
> and all of Shadow's missions not too long ago,
> I'm now a bit stuck on what to do next.
>
> I know I won't be finishing all of Tails' or Rouge's missions anytime
soon,
> as they both have driving levels. My problem is 50% that I suck at driving
> games and 50% that I have no patience for driving games. So my lives will
be
> spent thusly:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> [Route 280 - Don't Touch the Walls!]
> Life 1: Hit wall 15 seconds into course.
> Life 2: Ran out of time 2 seconds before finishing level.
> Life 3: Hit wall 21 seconds into course.
> Life 4: Hit wall 41 seconds into course.
> Life 5: Hit wall 7 seconds into course.
>
> [back to selection screen, reload course]
>
> Life 6: Hit wall 15 seconds into course.
> Life 7: Hit wall 2 minutes, 58 seconds into course.
> Life 8: Hit wall before starting course.
> Life 9: Hit wall 2 minutes, 57 seconds into course.
> Life 10: Ran out of time 5 seconds before finishing level.
>
> [back to selection screen, reload course]
>
> Life 11: DC loads City Escape instead to spare my feelings. A Rank!
>
Pretty much the same with me. =\
I can't even get B's on mission one, let alone A's.
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> I want to save Sonic and Shadow's A-Ranks for last, as they seem by far
the
> hardest to collect. I suppose I'll go after Sonic's missions. He may have
> 50% more levels than Shadow, but he's the last character who still has
> unfinished missions and doesn't have a driving stage.
Sky Rail, Radical Highway, and White Jungle are fairly easy to sweep with
A's.
Final Chase mission 1, I usually die somewhere in the level ebcause of the
gravity, or the lock-on jump messing up, so then my score gets reset and I
can't get an A. 100 rings... I can't do quick, and I still have to find the
Chao here.
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Smiley babbled:
>Think it's a good idea, or do you think it's just a ploy for the shameless
>braggarts of this newsgroup to strut and fret? And if you think it's the
>second possibility, how much less would you think of me if I went ahead and
>did it anyway?
You want me to strut? Okay. Only 3 All A's left, Rouge's, Eggman's,
and Shadow's. Also, 7 Chao emblems left.
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>I don't see how I'll be able to beat Meteor Herd, let alone get A's. If I
>jsut wander the massive level waiting for the hot/cold meter to go off, I'll
>run out of time, but then if I use hints I won't get an A. =(
On Meteor Herd, use two hints. That should be enough to figure out
where the emerald is. Go right for it. You'll get at least a B,
sometimes an A. If you're lucky, you may get an emerald with only one
hint.
Smiley
that refers to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
>> Last night, I finished the last of Knuckles' missions and got all of
>> Knuckles' A Ranks nearly back-to-back.
>
>I don't see how I'll be able to beat Meteor Herd, let alone get A's. If
>I jsut wander the massive level waiting for the hot/cold meter to go
>off, I'll run out of time, but then if I use hints I won't get an A. =(
Yeah - it's pretty critical to learn to live without hints.
Remember - you don't have to sweep the entire level three times. From what
I've seen, there's always one "low" Emerald, one "middle" Emerald and one
"high" Emerald. If you find the low emerald, don't bother with the lower
part of the stage anymore.
The low area is the place you start up to the top of the tower. The middle
area is the hardest, consisting of all the junk between the top of the tower
and the bottom of the inverted blue tower. Still, realize that, no matter
how odd it looks, the level is still arranged as a square. Two circles
around the middle area, one in the upper part of the middle area and one in
the lower, should give you an indication of whether the emerald is there or
not. Then there's the upper level, which is fairly small but slow to get
around thanks to the tower in the center.
Also: know where the springs and rockets are.
The easiest way to get from low to middle is to do this - start by climbing
to the lower ledge of the main tower, the one with all the doors, meteor
chunks and blue boxes on it. Hit a spring - there's two on opposite sides.
From there, climb the tower until you're somewhat above the lowest platform.
Glide to it, then hit the spring. You'll land on a platform with another
spring - you'll now be high enough to sweep the upper part of the middle
section.
The easiest way to get from middle to high - in the upper part of the middle
section, there are two very large platforms across from each other. One has
three of those containers that are connected to the ground and require an
uppercut to break. The other has a rocket. The last spring mentioned above
should take you to the platform without a rocket, which will let you glide
to the island with a rocket. You'll have to climb to reach the upper part of
the upper section, I fear.
Your radar is larger than it was in Sonic Adventure, so you don't have to be
that close to a shard to see a response. Be willing to try and retry until
the first shard is low, the second one is middle and the third one is high.
As for common locations:
- Low -
Just sitting outside somewhere, either near a "drilling tower" (the big
towers near the edge of the ground) or near the main tower.
In a crate on one of the platforms in the center of the main tower. You'll
know it's there if you get a strong reaction as you use the spring on the
lowest platform.
In a big blue box. This is uncommon for the first shard, so don't worry
about it too much.
- Middle -
Just sitting on some random platform. You'll most likely notice this one as
you hop from spring to spring. Also occasionally in a crate.
In a meteorite - there's one part of the stage loaded with breakable
meteorites, near a spring and a Chaos monster. If you hop off the spring and
let your fall a bit, you should end up almost right on top of the meteorite
with the shard.
- High -
In an enemy - it's almost always in an enemy. Remember that there are four
more platforms above the first set, if you climb up there.
I'm thinking about writing a Knuckles' FAQ, actually... I have really
detailed instructions for how to get A's on the 2nd missions of Aquatic Mine
and Death Chamber.
>> Having already gotten the last of
>> Eggman's A Ranks a while ago
>
>Still not sure where the Chao is in Lost Colony even though I spent 30
>minutes looking for it.
Hint 1: You lack height. Look for a low place to get some.
Hint 2: A platform that rises when you stand on it would be ideal...
Hint 3: But if you're not sure exactly where the platform is, you'll
probably fall to your death.
Solution: Okay, there's one section where you've got to make your way across
a winding, narrow trail with only space below you, right? Well, walk forward
and turn left as normal, but before you leap across and face down the bomb-
toting thing, turn to your right and walk off the edge. There should be a
platform down there that will carry you to a new part of the level. Have
fun!
> Weapons Bed on Hard is also a pain.
It's a pain, but I find that you just have to go a bit lighter on the
trigger (that is, release it earlier so you don't get hit and lose valuable
style points) and know where the "drop down from above" enemies are. If you
are good about picking up rings to maintain your health, you should have
plenty of points by the time you reach the end of the level.
Hey, it could be worse - there could be lots of those Chaos monsters, right?
>> I want to save Sonic and Shadow's A-Ranks for last, as they seem by
>> far the hardest to collect. I suppose I'll go after Sonic's missions. He
>> may have 50% more levels than Shadow, but he's the last character who
>> still has unfinished missions and doesn't have a driving stage.
>
>Sky Rail, Radical Highway, and White Jungle are fairly easy to sweep
>with A's.
>
>Final Chase mission 1, I usually die somewhere in the level ebcause of
>the gravity, or the lock-on jump messing up, so then my score gets reset
>and I can't get an A.
I... might've gotten all A's on Final Chase, actually. Not sure about the
2nd mission. Actually, I may have given up on restarting every time I died
during the fifth mission as well. The trick is to pick up as many 1-ups as
possible while going through it, so that you never have to worry about
reloading. There's three before you have to drop down the center of the
three psychadelic tubes...
But, yes, homing attacks and gravity are quite screwy in that area. Just
wait until you get to Hard Mode - insane. You know that part where you've
got to jump from vertical barrel to vertical barrel, and there's a Chaos
monster between each barrel? That part is a lot harder now. A LOT harder.
>100 rings... I can't do quick, and I still have to find the Chao here.
It's not that hard to find, I thought - search the area just beyond the
section with all those green barrels. You know, the one where there's about
a dozen of them. Specifically, look for one that a big red X sign at the end
of it.
Smiley
that refers to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
>Sky Rail, Radical Highway, and White Jungle are fairly easy to sweep
>with A's.
Ah, okay. It's not as hard as I thought. It seems to be 35% skill and 65%
understanding the points system. I've already cleared out Radical Highway
and White Jungle. Sky Rail, however, is still a thorn in my side, if only
because, like Final Chase, it's too easy to die due to some quirk in the
engine.
There's one question that would make my life a lot easier if answered. What
determines, when you jump off a rail, whether you curl up into a ball (and
are able to homing attack from there) or go into a spread-eagled fall (with
no hope but to hit something on the way down)? I ask this because the Golden
Beetle in that level requires that you leap off a rail, homing attack to hit
it, then homing-attack back to a rail. 75% of the time (I love making up
percents, don't I?), Shadow leaps, goes spread-eagle and ends up plummeting
to his doom.
My memory about how far I had come in Final Chase was quite flawed - but I
know the level well enough that it shouldn't be too hard. Hard Mode will be
a challenge, I suppose... it's a good thing I'm building up so many lives on
his other levels.
Raz Masters
period, have earned myself 87 emblems. I haven't earned more than
that simply because I'm sticking to each stage until I get A's on all
of its challenges, and only then do I move on to the next one. So far,
I have straight A's on the following stages:
City Escape (Sonic), Radical Highway (Shadow), Route 101 (Tails),
Route 280 (Rouge), Mission Street (Tails), Aquatic Mine (Knuckles),
White Jungle (Shadow), Green Forest (Sonic), Pumpkin Hill (Knux),
Iron Gate (Dr. Robotnik), Metal Harbor (Sonic), & Go-Kart Difficulties
Beginner, Standard, and Expert (using Sonic).
Notice a pattern of sorts? I'm completing all the stages in the order
they appear on the stage select screen. The only exception I made
to that was Metal Harbor; after playing it a few times and getting crap
grades, I decided to play it until I'd mastered it. Aside from earning
emblems, I've also spent lots of time raising my Chao.
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>understanding the points system. I've already cleared out Radical Highway
>and White Jungle. Sky Rail, however, is still a thorn in my side, if only
>because, like Final Chase, it's too easy to die due to some quirk in the
>engine.
>
>There's one question that would make my life a lot easier if answered. What
>determines, when you jump off a rail, whether you curl up into a ball (and
>are able to homing attack from there) or go into a spread-eagled fall (with
>no hope but to hit something on the way down)? I ask this because the Golden
>Beetle in that level requires that you leap off a rail, homing attack to hit
>it, then homing-attack back to a rail. 75% of the time (I love making up
>percents, don't I?), Shadow leaps, goes spread-eagle and ends up plummeting
>to his doom.
If memory serves me correctly, even if you go "spread eagle", you can still do
the homing attack.
Timestones
Smiley
that refers to itself as Timestones:
>>There's one question that would make my life a lot easier if answered.
>>What determines, when you jump off a rail, whether you curl up into a
>>ball (and are able to homing attack from there) or go into a
>>spread-eagled fall (with no hope but to hit something on the way down)?
>>I ask this because the Golden Beetle in that level requires that you
>>leap off a rail, homing attack to hit it, then homing-attack back to a
>>rail. 75% of the time (I love making up percents, don't I?), Shadow
>>leaps, goes spread-eagle and ends up plummeting to his doom.
>
>If memory serves me correctly, even if you go "spread eagle", you can
>still do the homing attack.
Not from a rail - I know there are situations where you can homing attack
while not curled up, but I've desperately jammed on the jump button on
enough occasions to know that you can't always homing attack after leaping
off a rail.
I find that slowing down helps, for those of you who are having the same
problem. Going straight from a crouch into a jump seems to prevent Shadow
from curling up as he should.
Smiley
that refers to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
>Sky Rail, Radical Highway, and White Jungle are fairly easy to sweep
>with A's.
>
>Final Chase mission 1, I usually die somewhere in the level ebcause of
>the gravity, or the lock-on jump messing up, so then my score gets reset
>and I can't get an A. 100 rings... I can't do quick,
You know the first place you bounce off a floating Chaos Clone to a vertical
barrel beyond? Check the area below that - there's a ring container down
there. Also, on the second giant decline, leap off at the top - there's some
ring containers up there. I was done by the time I picked up the first ring
container up there.
Yup. Just finished Shadow's A Ranks. Three down, three to go...
The Chaos Emerald
>As for me, I've been playing for a total of 39:15:54, and in that time
>period, have earned myself 87 emblems. I haven't earned more than
>that simply because I'm sticking to each stage until I get A's on all
>of its challenges, and only then do I move on to the next one. So far,
>I have straight A's on the following stages:
>
>City Escape (Sonic), Radical Highway (Shadow), Route 101 (Tails),
>Route 280 (Rouge), Mission Street (Tails), Aquatic Mine (Knuckles),
>White Jungle (Shadow), Green Forest (Sonic), Pumpkin Hill (Knux),
>Iron Gate (Dr. Robotnik), Metal Harbor (Sonic), & Go-Kart Difficulties
>Beginner, Standard, and Expert (using Sonic).
>
>Notice a pattern of sorts? I'm completing all the stages in the order
>they appear on the stage select screen. The only exception I made
>to that was Metal Harbor; after playing it a few times and getting crap
>grades, I decided to play it until I'd mastered it. Aside from earning
>emblems, I've also spent lots of time raising my Chao.
Isn't Metal Harbor great? I love that stage. I just want to know,
why are there 4 Phenixes (plus an extra one in a Chao box) in that
stage?
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That 2nd mission is a pain...
> Aquatic Mine A, A, A, A
Oooh
You got any tips for getting 100 rings in the Knuckles/Rouge stages? Because
I can't get good ranks in many of them...
> Security Hall A, A
I've got ALL As in that one :)
> Dry Lagoon A, A, A, A
But hard mode is easy!
> Egg Quarters A, A, A, A
I desperately need to know how to get that second A - my ranking for that
one is ADAAA
> Death Chamber D, C
How appropriate :)
> Kart Race:
> "Beginner" - 2:09:88
> Standard - Can't beat
I beat it today, at last...
Shadow seems to be the best driver...
> Expert - Hell no.
Heh :)
> Boss:
> Hero Side - 15:10:04
> Dark Side - Not yet
> All - Not yet
They're not too difficult. If your life count is a little low by the
Sonic/Shadow finale, then collect lots of rings to up your life count.
Particularly do this for the "All" bosses as this includes Biolizard and
Finalhazard as well.
> Total A's: 94
40 for me. But then I've only had mine two weeks, and have been playing the
newly-purchased JSR as well...
> Questions:
> - Security Hall: Mission 3
> How do I get the Chao? I can see it, I just can't reach it.
Where you get pulled up to the upper area - climb up to the top of the wall
(where the platforms are moving around) and turn on your sunglasses.
The ancient ruins are decoys - though you'll need your mystic melody of
course to get the sunglasses in the first place...
> - Death Chamber: Mission 3
> I go underwater and everything, and even find a timer and I can hear some
> passage closing, but don't know what to do/where the Chao is.
I haven't replayed this (or any of the desert/space stages, barring Shadow)
yet but I guess you might find the sunglasses handy again...
> - Crazy Gadget: Mission 5
> How do you beat the "maze" on Hard mode?
Ooooh, it's changed? :(
/)_.
1 of Zac
> I can *see* the third emerald but can't figure out how to get it with the
> hints above. I can't see any hidden springs with the sunglasses either.
Go over to the water mill and when on top of it, turn on your sunglasses.
It's important to note that the water level must remain at 3 throughout hard
mode...
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> That 2nd mission is a pain...
Are there even 100 rings on the first playthru? *sigh* I guess I'll go ring
hunting and look for hidden areas.
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> > Aquatic Mine A, A, A, A
>
> Oooh
>
A, A, A, A, A now.
> You got any tips for getting 100 rings in the Knuckles/Rouge stages?
Because
> I can't get good ranks in many of them...
>
Um... not really. It took me over 11 minutes to find 100 rings with Rouge in
Security Hall at first. Then the second time I just knew where things were
better. For Security Hall if you hit a switch, 30 rings appear in the upper
part of the level. There's also a lightning shield hidden in one of the
boxes.
> > Security Hall A, A
>
> I've got ALL As in that one :)
>
Now I have A, A, A.
> > Dry Lagoon A, A, A, A
>
> But hard mode is easy!
>
I don't even remember this now... *boots SA2* Ah, I think I just can't find
one of them... or something.
> > Egg Quarters A, A, A, A
>
> I desperately need to know how to get that second A - my ranking for that
> one is ADAAA
>
Time: 1:57:99
1) Hop up, get six rings.
2) Hop down.
3) Go right, six rings. (12)
4) Go left.
5) Six (18)
6) Keep going, another 6 (24)
7) Tons of rings in the red room. (but I got hit)
8) Hidden in a red box in the red room is a 20-ring.
9) Continue to green room, six rings.
10) Keep going, another six, followed by another six. That should be enough.
> > Death Chamber D, C
>
> How appropriate :)
>
> > Kart Race:
> > "Beginner" - 2:09:88
> > Standard - Can't beat
>
> I beat it today, at last...
>
> Shadow seems to be the best driver...
>
> > Expert - Hell no.
>
> Heh :)
>
> > Boss:
> > Hero Side - 15:10:04
> > Dark Side - Not yet
> > All - Not yet
>
> They're not too difficult. If your life count is a little low by the
> Sonic/Shadow finale, then collect lots of rings to up your life count.
> Particularly do this for the "All" bosses as this includes Biolizard and
> Finalhazard as well.
>
I beat Dark Side bosses yesterday, and was up to Biolizard on All mode, but
my clumsy self that hits start on the controller a lot at odd times did
this. But I was running away from the boss so I tapped Up and hit "A" quick,
all in less than a second and didn't realize I had selected Quit.
> > Total A's: 94
>
> 40 for me. But then I've only had mine two weeks, and have been playing
the
> newly-purchased JSR as well...
>
> > Questions:
> > - Security Hall: Mission 3
> > How do I get the Chao? I can see it, I just can't reach it.
>
> Where you get pulled up to the upper area - climb up to the top of the
wall
> (where the platforms are moving around) and turn on your sunglasses.
>
> The ancient ruins are decoys - though you'll need your mystic melody of
> course to get the sunglasses in the first place...
>
> > - Death Chamber: Mission 3
> > I go underwater and everything, and even find a timer and I can hear
some
> > passage closing, but don't know what to do/where the Chao is.
>
> I haven't replayed this (or any of the desert/space stages, barring
Shadow)
> yet but I guess you might find the sunglasses handy again...
>
> > - Crazy Gadget: Mission 5
> > How do you beat the "maze" on Hard mode?
>
> Ooooh, it's changed? :(
Yes, it's a lot harder on Hard. =( They changed the switch for the rocket,
and it's back in the begining of the maze. Also the area with rings that you
light dash isn't there anymore. I don't know how to beat it.
Also, I have a very odd glitch.
"Route 280"
Mission 2: A
Time: 00:01:20
Yes... one second... it ... saved incorrectly. =(
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Actually it must remain at level one... and I beat it. :)
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> Phillip Roncoroni <goo...@nospam.bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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> > Security Hall A, A
>
> I've got ALL As in that one :)
Grr, Mission 5: "Nobody can open that safe."
Well I sure as hell can't. Spent 20 minutes looking for the switch to disarm
it... can't find it. Grr.
Timestones
>
>Oooh
>
>You got any tips for getting 100 rings in the Knuckles/Rouge stages? Because
>I can't get good ranks in many of them...
Grab one or two rings, then get hit and lose them. Now quickly snag them again
and collect all the rings you can as fast as you can that don't involve you
going too far out of your way. After that, head back to where you started the
level off and use the BACK goal ring to start the stage over, with the amount
of rings you've just collected. Go wild and get every last ring you can.
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> it... can't find it. Grr.
Ooooh! I know this!
If you've found the safe where the emerald is, and you know where the switch
to unlock it is (on the LEFT on the higher level if you don't know - or is
it the RIGHT...?), once it's unlocked go down to the safe and you'll notice
that there's a great big crusher thing in the way. To deactivate the crusher
go up to the top of the lower level and a bridge to the right of that safe
that features a robot guard and a metal crate. Destroy both then turn on
your sunglasses. It should be obvious from there...
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Phillip Roncoroni
BAM, 141.
I knew how to unlock the safe, I just couldn't find the switch. I actually
stumbled onto it on the ceiling before reading this. Oh well, thanks anyway.
Mission Street 100 rings is seriously pissing me off, as is Weapons Bed,
Hard Mode. (to get an A) I had 28,000 points and was right near the goal, so
I think I would've gotten an A, when all of a sudden something fell out of
the sky, hit me, and made me fall in the water. REAL GOOD SONIC TEAM.
Seriously what the hell is the point of the enemies magically dropping on
you, or in Tail's levels shooting bombs at you. You have no idea it's going
to happen, and it just gets you mad.
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The Chaos Emerald
>You got any tips for getting 100 rings in the Knuckles/Rouge stages? Because
>I can't get good ranks in many of them...
Try this, cheap, but it works quite well, and you only need 50 rings
near you.
Get one ring, and get hit by an enemy. This will cause a "Back" ring
to appear at the start. Get the 50 rings, go back, and get them
again.
Smiley
itself as 1 of Zac:
>You got any tips for getting 100 rings in the Knuckles/Rouge stages?
>Because I can't get good ranks in many of them...
I've got the perfect method for both Aquatic Mine and Death Chamber - and
neither of them involving using the "Back" trick.
Aquatic Mine - grab the 8 rings around you. Now, turn on your sunglasses and
run around the outer edge of the room - there's 10 rings on the right side.
Once you've gotten them, glide to the central area. There are six rings near
the pulleys - one below each pulley and two on the walls next to each
pulley. Head upstairs to find a 10-ring container and hit the Level 3
switch. You should now have 8 + 10 + 6 + 10 = 34 rings.
Drill dive past the pulleys to land on the lowered platform on the 2nd
level. Look for the "WARNING! GHOSTS!" tunnel, and head down there. Dive
through the tunnel. You'll pick up every single ring as you go down the
tunnel, then hit both ring containers in the next room. Pick up every single
ring as you go down the next tunnel, then rise and bonk your head on the 20-
ring container. You're done.
Death Chamber - jump up, grab the six rings in the ring around you. Hit the
hourglass, snatch the 6 rings in the door beyond, then run back through
quickly. Head to the left, smash the boxes and dig through the wall
painting. In the next room, quickly hit the rocket on your right, then run
over and hit the hourglass on your left. Continue to the next room. In the
next room, kill the enemies and grab the rings. Don't worry about the
"puzzle", just dig through the wall.
Here comes a tricky part. Hit the electric shield, then glide across the
room and collect all the floating rings. Return to where you came from, then
drop straight down. There are two E-100 models in this room, so don't stand
still. In the Blue Room, head to the raised platform, dive in the water and
get all the rings in the little treasure chest room. Now, head back up, and
choose the center door. Get the rings in front of you, then turn to the
right in the next room and smash the crates to your right for 10 more rings.
Continue forward to the large, central room. Turn to your right. There's 10
rings behind the first giant statue. Just circle around the lower area, and
you'll be done in no time.
Smiley
as The Chaos Emerald:
>Isn't Metal Harbor great? I love that stage.
Oi.
I've currently got A's on missions 1-4 and a B on mission 5. The first
mission I got a 20020 on... I'm sure I could get an A on the last mission if
I could just clear that GACKING-PHRACKING tower easily. After I hit the
first spring, I always get thrown into the side of the wall by that booster.
Assuming everything goes smoothly there, the big guy waiting around the
corner screws me over.
*sigh* My lovely stack of extra lives...
Still, it is a very clever level, as long as you're not trying to get an A
and you only have three lives left and you've been trying all afternoon and
NO I USED THE LIGHTSPEED DASH I SHOULD'VE HIT THAT GRIND!! YOU OWE ME 600
POINTS, YOU STINKIN'...
Timestones
>mission I got a 20020 on... I'm sure I could get an A on the last mission if
>I could just clear that GACKING-PHRACKING tower easily. After I hit the
>first spring, I always get thrown into the side of the wall by that booster.
>Assuming everything goes smoothly there, the big guy waiting around the
>corner screws me over.
Heh, interestingly enough, I can't get above a C rank in mission 1, but I got
an A rank on the last mission the first time through. Um, anyway, anyone have
any tips on how exactly you're supposed to get an A rank on missions 1 and 4,
anyway? I'm tired of seeing CAACA everytime I select that stage. . .
Raz Masters
> Heh, interestingly enough, I can't get above a C rank in mission 1,
> but I got an A rank on the last mission the first time through. Um,
> anyway, anyone have any tips on how exactly you're supposed to
> get an A rank on missions 1 and 4, anyway? I'm tired of seeing
> CAACA everytime I select that stage. . .
Excuse me, but: Gahahahahah!
I find that greatly amusing. Indeed. (Not your grades, Timestones,
but what they spell out.)
Phillip Roncoroni
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> >I've currently got A's on missions 1-4 and a B on mission 5. The first
> >mission I got a 20020 on... I'm sure I could get an A on the last mission
if
> >I could just clear that GACKING-PHRACKING tower easily. After I hit the
> >first spring, I always get thrown into the side of the wall by that
booster.
> >Assuming everything goes smoothly there, the big guy waiting around the
> >corner screws me over.
>
> Heh, interestingly enough, I can't get above a C rank in mission 1, but I
got
> an A rank on the last mission the first time through. Um, anyway, anyone
have
> any tips on how exactly you're supposed to get an A rank on missions 1 and
4,
> anyway? I'm tired of seeing CAACA everytime I select that stage. . .
1) There's two places to grind in the level. First one, use the left side.
Second one, use the right side. First grind is right in the begining. Light
dash with the four rings. Second grind is later on. You'll need to spin dash
up this ramp with a booster to get height, then jump forward to land on the
right side rail. This is right before sliding under the metal thing and
killing the enemies before the rocket.
2) Kill all the enemies. Right in the begining on the slope down there's two
there, then another one. (then light dash the rights)
3) Remember to kill that 1,000 point golden beetle and get the one-up.
4) There's a second hidden one up. The area with the spike balls and the
planes that bomb you with the boost pads. To the left before the buildings
there's an enemy. Kill it, and the ones that appear afterwards.
5) Get to the TOP of the rocket for the 1,500 point bonus and the extra
enemies along the way.
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to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
Nice summary. I didn't need every one of those steps, but then again I
squeeked by with a score of 20,020... anyway, one part could use a little
elaboration.
>5) Get to the TOP of the rocket for the 1,500 point bonus and the extra
>enemies along the way.
This takes some work, though. On HARD Mode, I'm almost positive it's simply
impossible - I eventually found that it wasn't necessary (curses! so many
wasted lives!).
Anyway, before the countdown begins, leap towards the base of the rocket
itself. Homing attack the spring to your right - this will let you avoid the
first loop around the rocket. Hit the speedster pad, and PRAY PRAY PRAY that
it doesn't send you careening into the wall, or your chances are shot. Run
up the ramp, hit the next speester pad, run right on past the bumper and
instead jump towards the next part of rafters. There's some enemies in the
distance - aim for them. More beetles will show up as you jump, allowing you
to homing attack to relative safety. Hit the speedster pad, then light speed
dash as you reach the top. Homing attack the bumper, then hit the next
bumper and earn your 1,500 bonus. I've never reached this handle with even
one second left on the clock, so be prepared to lose many extra lives
mastering this technique.
Still, 1500 technique points for reaching the handle, 400? for enemies, 300?
technique points for bouncing off said enemies and a whole mess of rings
can't be argued with.
Phillip Roncoroni
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> <T8r47.8152$l%.3897573@typhoon2.gnilink.net>, a thought entity that refers
> to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
>
> Nice summary. I didn't need every one of those steps, but then again I
> squeeked by with a score of 20,020... anyway, one part could use a little
> elaboration.
>
My scores:
Mission 1: 22,460
Mission 5: 20,100
> >5) Get to the TOP of the rocket for the 1,500 point bonus and the extra
> >enemies along the way.
>
> This takes some work, though. On HARD Mode, I'm almost positive it's
simply
> impossible - I eventually found that it wasn't necessary (curses! so many
> wasted lives!).
>
I use a "trick" to ALWAYS get the 1,500 point bonus. When your running down
and about to make the first right (before the time even starts), DON'T. Just
look at the rocket base. There's two springs. I jump onto the base, hit the
right spring, and bypass a few seconds of rotating around the rocket. Cheap
I suppose, but why else are the srpings there?
> Anyway, before the countdown begins, leap towards the base of the rocket
> itself. Homing attack the spring to your right - this will let you avoid
the
> first loop around the rocket. Hit the speedster pad, and PRAY PRAY PRAY
that
> it doesn't send you careening into the wall, or your chances are shot. Run
> up the ramp, hit the next speester pad, run right on past the bumper and
> instead jump towards the next part of rafters. There's some enemies in the
> distance - aim for them. More beetles will show up as you jump, allowing
you
> to homing attack to relative safety. Hit the speedster pad, then light
speed
> dash as you reach the top. Homing attack the bumper, then hit the next
> bumper and earn your 1,500 bonus. I've never reached this handle with even
> one second left on the clock, so be prepared to lose many extra lives
> mastering this technique.
>
> Still, 1500 technique points for reaching the handle, 400? for enemies,
300?
> technique points for bouncing off said enemies and a whole mess of rings
> can't be argued with.
>
Not related, but 148 emblems now. :)
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> On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 04:47:07 GMT, Smil...@earthlink.net (Smiley)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >I thought it might be appropriate to have a thread dedicated to people
> >talking about how many emblems they have gotten, how many A Ranks they
had,
> >how their Chao were doing, what characters they were focusing on, etc.
This
> >would not only allow for much shameless bragging, but would also allow
those
> >having trouble to ask a person who they know has already completed that
> >part.
> >
> >I like to help, really I do, especially when this stuff is fresh in my
mind.
> >I'm even working on an FAQ. I like giving hints, too, to those who are
stuck
> >but don't want to just give up completely.
> >
> >Think it's a good idea, or do you think it's just a ploy for the
shameless
> >braggarts of this newsgroup to strut and fret? And if you think it's the
> >second possibility, how much less would you think of me if I went ahead
and
> >did it anyway?
>
> coming. But, here are my current ranks:
>
> Sonic: All A's on Green Forest, City Escape, and Metal Harbor.
> Pyramid Cave 1, 4, 5 are a pain. Haven't touched Crazy Gadget or
> Final Rush yet.
>
Pyramid Cave 4 isn't that bad, I beat it with an A with 25 seconds left. I
even forgot where the golden beetle is. =\ Mission 5 with the big ghosts is
a pain though.
Crazy Gadget's maze changes on Hard mode... and I can't beat it... at all.
*sigh*
> Tails: All A's.
>
Grr, I can't beat the stupid driving crap.
> Knuckles: All A's.
>
Meteor Herd is too annoying.
> Shadow: All A's except Final Chase 5.
>
I still can't find the Chao here. (don't spoil it)
> Eggman: All A's on Iron Gate, Sand Ocean, and Weapons Bed. Haven't
> focused on Lost Colony or Cosmic Wall yet. BTW, did anyone else
> effortlessly get an A on their first time through Cosmic Wall? My
> score came out to be 79,000+. My girlfriend made it out with 81,000+,
> and says she wasn't really trying...
>
Eggman's A's are easy. I have A's for everything here.
> Rouge: All A's except for Mad Space. Haven't sat down with that stage
> yet.
>
Mad Space and Meteor Herd suck. The get one ring, get hit trick doesn't seem
to work here either.
> Cannon's Core: All A's except for 5th mission; haven't tried yet.
>
What are you a masochist? Your actually playing these to get A's? You don't
need A's here... I can only shudder when I think of Hard Mode.
> Mini-Game: All Kart and Boss Emblems. Only 3 Chao Emblems.
> Admittedly, I only tend to my Chao when I'm tired of the action
> stages.
>
Did you beat the Kart tracks with Shadow?
> Total Emblems: 150/180.
>
Total: 148/180
... but everybody else seems more "focused" than me. i.e. three or so
characters all done with while I only have Eggman finished. Oh well.
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YOSHI!
The Chaos Emerald
>The Hive Mind detected the following irregular thought patterns from cycle
><T8r47.8152$l%.3897573@typhoon2.gnilink.net>, a thought entity that refers
>to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
>
>Nice summary. I didn't need every one of those steps, but then again I
>squeeked by with a score of 20,020... anyway, one part could use a little
>elaboration.
>
>>5) Get to the TOP of the rocket for the 1,500 point bonus and the extra
>>enemies along the way.
>
>This takes some work, though. On HARD Mode, I'm almost positive it's simply
>impossible - I eventually found that it wasn't necessary (curses! so many
>wasted lives!).
>
>Anyway, before the countdown begins, leap towards the base of the rocket
>itself. Homing attack the spring to your right - this will let you avoid the
>first loop around the rocket. Hit the speedster pad, and PRAY PRAY PRAY that
>it doesn't send you careening into the wall, or your chances are shot.
Smiley, your problem is that you don't adjust yourself in the air.
After hitting the spring, just move a bit to the right, and you'll be
fine every time. There's even yet another hero animal at the top,
which I ususally have time for (w/o using Speed Shoes also)
The Chaos Emerald
>"Hoshi" <fadedstarx@seganet> wrote in message
>news:=GBSO48MV3gmLo...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 04:47:07 GMT, Smil...@earthlink.net (Smiley)
>> wrote:
>Crazy Gadget's maze changes on Hard mode... and I can't beat it... at all.
>*sigh*
There's an extra switch about halfway through the maze... use it.
<snip>
>> Cannon's Core: All A's except for 5th mission; haven't tried yet.
>
>What are you a masochist? Your actually playing these to get A's? You don't
>need A's here... I can only shudder when I think of Hard Mode.
That's my only stage left with some Cs... gotta boost those up to As.
I think my chains in the beginning aren't enough...
>> Mini-Game: All Kart and Boss Emblems. Only 3 Chao Emblems.
>> Admittedly, I only tend to my Chao when I'm tired of the action
>> stages.
>>
>
>Did you beat the Kart tracks with Shadow?
I used Knuckles. Shadow == Sonic. Sonic sucks on the Expert track.
>> Total Emblems: 150/180.
>>
>
>Total: 148/180
Total: 173/180
Seven chao emblems to go!
>... but everybody else seems more "focused" than me. i.e. three or so
>characters all done with while I only have Eggman finished. Oh well.
Perhaps you can help me with something... I found a great place for
TWO of the three Hero animals, the pheonix and the dragon. But I
can't find a nice fast place to get unicorns, so I'm playing City
Escape and getting the last chao box. :( Anyone know a faster way for
Hero side?
Phillip Roncoroni
news:3b527622...@news.usenet.com...
> In the insanity known as alt.fan.sonic-hedgehog,
> Phillip Roncoroni babbled:
> >"Hoshi" <fadedstarx@seganet> wrote in message
> >news:=GBSO48MV3gmLo...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 04:47:07 GMT, Smil...@earthlink.net (Smiley)
> >> wrote:
>
> >Crazy Gadget's maze changes on Hard mode... and I can't beat it... at
all.
> >*sigh*
> There's an extra switch about halfway through the maze... use it.
>
I know there's a switch where you usually have to do the bounce attack,
hidden under the metal boxes, but then I don't know how to re-circle the
maze again. Not to mention the coins to light dash with are missing.
> <snip>
> >> Cannon's Core: All A's except for 5th mission; haven't tried yet.
> >
> >What are you a masochist? Your actually playing these to get A's? You
don't
> >need A's here... I can only shudder when I think of Hard Mode.
>
> That's my only stage left with some Cs... gotta boost those up to As.
> I think my chains in the beginning aren't enough...
>
But you don't NEED A's here. Why even bother? You don't get anything special
and the level sucks.
> >> Mini-Game: All Kart and Boss Emblems. Only 3 Chao Emblems.
> >> Admittedly, I only tend to my Chao when I'm tired of the action
> >> stages.
> >>
> >
> >Did you beat the Kart tracks with Shadow?
>
> I used Knuckles. Shadow == Sonic. Sonic sucks on the Expert track.
>
Actually, and I'm completely surprised since I suck at racing games, but I
beat all three tracks last night with Shadow.
> >> Total Emblems: 150/180.
> >>
> >
> >Total: 148/180
>
> Total: 173/180
> Seven chao emblems to go!
>
150/180 now.
> >... but everybody else seems more "focused" than me. i.e. three or so
> >characters all done with while I only have Eggman finished. Oh well.
> Perhaps you can help me with something... I found a great place for
> TWO of the three Hero animals, the pheonix and the dragon. But I
> can't find a nice fast place to get unicorns, so I'm playing City
> Escape and getting the last chao box. :( Anyone know a faster way for
> Hero side?
Nope, not sure, sorry. I just give me Chao raccoons and skunks.
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> On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 04:11:55 GMT, "Phillip Roncoroni"
> <goo...@nospam.bellatlantic.net> wrote:
>
> >"Hoshi" <fadedstarx@seganet> wrote in message
> >news:=GBSO48MV3gmLo...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 14 Jul 2001 04:47:07 GMT, Smil...@earthlink.net (Smiley)
> >> wrote:
> >Meteor Herd is too annoying.
>
> the stage, thanks to the Chao mission, it was just a matter of hoping
> I fell close enough to pick up the emeralds on radar.
>
What is the correct way, because I can only snag a B on the Chao mission.
> >> Shadow: All A's except Final Chase 5.
> >>
> >
> >I still can't find the Chao here. (don't spoil it)
>
> Ah. I apologize if I spoiled the Cannon's Core Chao mission.
>
No, that helped though. I wouldn't be wandering around as that same
character who played the melody then. Besides I *hate* Cannon's Core in
every way. Which character needs to play the melody? You can spoil it. =\
> I blew through Cannon's Core with far less effort than some of the
> Sonic/Shadow levels. I don't see Cannon's Core Hard mode being much
> of a challenge, either.
>
The blue "Chaos" wanna-be enemies are a pain.
> >> Mini-Game: All Kart and Boss Emblems. Only 3 Chao Emblems.
> >> Admittedly, I only tend to my Chao when I'm tired of the action
> >> stages.
> >>
> >
> >Did you beat the Kart tracks with Shadow?
>
> Yep. And, I usually favor accel/grip in racing games. :P
>
I actually managed to beat all three tracks with Shadow yesterday. Yay!
> >> Total Emblems: 150/180.
> >>
> >
> >Total: 148/180
> >
150/180 now. :)
The Chaos Emerald
Phillip Roncoroni babbled:
>No, that helped though. I wouldn't be wandering around as that same
>character who played the melody then. Besides I *hate* Cannon's Core in
>every way. Which character needs to play the melody? You can spoil it. =\
Everyone.
Smiley
to itself as The Chaos Emerald:
>>Anyway, before the countdown begins, leap towards the base of the
>>rocket itself. Homing attack the spring to your right - this will let
>>you avoid the first loop around the rocket. Hit the speedster pad, and
>>PRAY PRAY PRAY that it doesn't send you careening into the wall, or
>>your chances are shot.
>
>Smiley, your problem is that you don't adjust yourself in the air.
>After hitting the spring, just move a bit to the right, and you'll be
>fine every time. There's even yet another hero animal at the top,
>which I ususally have time for (w/o using Speed Shoes also)
I'm probably overadjusting, actually... I know that I'll land short
otherwise, so I nudge Sonic back and forth in the air, trying to figure out
exactly which way the pad is.
After hitting the pad, I usually let Sonic motor up the ramp, even after
losing the initial burst of speed, since it's safer. I'm sure a well-placed
homing attack would be more effective, but it doesn't really matter
anymore...
Smiley
that refers to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
>> Pyramid Cave 1, 4, 5 are a pain.
Yep. I've got BAABB on that level right now...
>Pyramid Cave 4 isn't that bad, I beat it with an A with 25 seconds left.
>I even forgot where the golden beetle is. =\
Guh? How? I have trouble navigating those "ring" sections - whenever I try
to go up the wall, I tend to lose a lot of speed and fall back to the
ground. I suppose if I wrote out where the rings are, I'd have an easier
time...
As for the Golden Beetle, it's in the same area as that robot guarding the
springs that bounce you straight up but don't actually send you anywhere.
The Beetle is near the camera at that point, to the robot's left.
>Mission 5 with the big ghosts is a pain though.
I'd assume it would be easier, if you stopped to kill all the Boom Boos. 300
points a pop isn't a bad deal for a few seconds of work...
>Crazy Gadget's maze changes on Hard mode... and I can't beat it... at
>all. *sigh*
That's okay. I can't find Crazy Gadget's Chao. It's in the maze, right? I
have to activate the Mystic Relic on the Purple Block, then... set the
gravity to fall towards the exit, then... stand on the purple block and...
Light Speed Dash/jump towards the Red one? And it looks like there's another
gravity changer on that side of the Red one, but...
Don't tell me exactly where it is, but am I on the right track?
Phillip Roncoroni
> The Hive Mind detected the following irregular thought patterns from
> cycle <fQt47.9085$O81.3...@typhoon1.gnilink.net>, a thought entity
> that refers to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
>
> >> Pyramid Cave 1, 4, 5 are a pain.
>
> Yep. I've got BAABB on that level right now...
>
> >Pyramid Cave 4 isn't that bad, I beat it with an A with 25 seconds left.
> >I even forgot where the golden beetle is. =\
>
> Guh? How? I have trouble navigating those "ring" sections - whenever I try
> to go up the wall, I tend to lose a lot of speed and fall back to the
> ground. I suppose if I wrote out where the rings are, I'd have an easier
> time...
>
I just ... run up the wall... Not sure how else to epxlain it. =\ Also
bounce attack for the one-up in the first section, and light dash through
the rings in the second section.
> As for the Golden Beetle, it's in the same area as that robot guarding the
> springs that bounce you straight up but don't actually send you anywhere.
> The Beetle is near the camera at that point, to the robot's left.
>
> >Mission 5 with the big ghosts is a pain though.
>
> I'd assume it would be easier, if you stopped to kill all the Boom Boos.
300
> points a pop isn't a bad deal for a few seconds of work...
>
No, there's these BIG ghosts that just hit you and make you lose your rings
on Hard. The annoying thing is they're all over the place in the area with
the timed door. So you have to navigate away from them, while going through
hoops for Technique points, while making it to the end before the door
closes from the timer.
> >Crazy Gadget's maze changes on Hard mode... and I can't beat it... at
> >all. *sigh*
>
> That's okay. I can't find Crazy Gadget's Chao. It's in the maze, right? I
> have to activate the Mystic Relic on the Purple Block, then... set the
> gravity to fall towards the exit, then... stand on the purple block and...
> Light Speed Dash/jump towards the Red one? And it looks like there's
another
> gravity changer on that side of the Red one, but...
>
> Don't tell me exactly where it is, but am I on the right track?
>
Huh? Activate the ruin and then I think rings appear to light dash. ... I
think that's it. But I haven't tried it in a while.
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Smiley
that refers to itself as Phillip Roncoroni:
>> >Pyramid Cave 4 isn't that bad, I beat it with an A with 25 seconds
>> >left. I even forgot where the golden beetle is. =\
>>
>> Guh? How? I have trouble navigating those "ring" sections - whenever I
>> try to go up the wall, I tend to lose a lot of speed and fall back to
>> the ground. I suppose if I wrote out where the rings are, I'd have an
>> easier time...
>>
>I just ... run up the wall... Not sure how else to epxlain it. =\
Hmm. Maybe I'm just holding the stick in the wrong direction. In any case, I
end up having to stick to the central path until the rings I want to jump
through aren't too far up the road, so I can gracefully glide up the side of
the wall and NO WHY DID I FALL OFF ARGGGGGGGG.... >(
>Also bounce attack for the one-up in the first section, and light dash
>through the rings in the second section.
Yep, I've been doing that. I haven't tried too hard, actually - I'd much
rather be frustrated by a short but sweet stage like Metal Harbor than a
long and dragging stage like Pyramid Cave.
>> >Mission 5 with the big ghosts is a pain though.
>>
>> I'd assume it would be easier, if you stopped to kill all the Boom
>> Boos. 300 points a pop isn't a bad deal for a few seconds of work...
>>
>No, there's these BIG ghosts that just hit you and make you lose your
>rings on Hard.
Yeah, I know. The ones with stiches for mouths. It takes about three homing
attacks to work them down to size and dispel them. But I haven't tried
slowing down and hitting them all yet - maybe only some of them can be
properly killed...
>The annoying thing is they're all over the place in the area with the timed
>door. So you have to navigate away from them, while going through hoops for
>Technique points, while making it to the end before the door closes from
>the timer.
See, if you can kill all those ghosts, it would make sense to run through
once slowly, killing them all, then go through it again quickly for
technique points. At least, I think it would. I still don't know exactly how
the Time Points system works.
>> I can't find Crazy Gadget's Chao. It's in the maze, right? I have to
>> activate the Mystic Relic on the Purple Block, then... set the gravity to
>> fall towards the exit, then... stand on the purple block and... Light
>> Speed Dash/jump towards the Red one? And it looks like there's another
>> gravity changer on that side of the Red one, but...
>>
>> Don't tell me exactly where it is, but am I on the right track?
>>
>Huh? Activate the ruin and then I think rings appear to light dash. ...
>I think that's it. But I haven't tried it in a while.
When I use those rings, I seem to get lifted really high above the abyss,
then dropped.
...unless I adjusted in midair and missed whatever I was supposed to be
landing on...
...I'm going to be very upset if I wasted 10 lives trying to perform an
impossible feat...
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Liam Slater
>
> I thought it might be appropriate to have a thread dedicated to people
> talking about how many emblems they have gotten, how many A Ranks they
had,
> how their Chao were doing, what characters they were focusing on, etc.
This
> would not only allow for much shameless bragging, but would also allow
those
> having trouble to ask a person who they know has already completed that
> part.
>
> I like to help, really I do, especially when this stuff is fresh in my
mind.
> I'm even working on an FAQ. I like giving hints, too, to those who are
stuck
> but don't want to just give up completely.
>
> Think it's a good idea, or do you think it's just a ploy for the shameless
> braggarts of this newsgroup to strut and fret? And if you think it's the
> second possibility, how much less would you think of me if I went ahead
and
> did it anyway?
VERY bad. A friend came over and as we were playing 2 player i used the 180
save but he accidentaly hit the change slot button on my memory card to my
save (117 and about 30 As) and both got corrupted
Liam Slater
Smiley
entity that refers to itself as Smiley:
>>> >Pyramid Cave 4 isn't that bad, I beat it with an A with 25 seconds
>>> >left. I even forgot where the golden beetle is. =\
Ahhh... beat it with 5 seconds left. Learning where the rings are is the
most important thing - the rest is just picking up those little keys quickly
and knowing exactly to take that looooooong tunnel so that you get a bunch
of technique points and still make it through the other end.
It's tough, but after Final Rush, it's a relief. Now I've finished Sonic,
Knuckles, Shadow and Eggman. Only Rouge and Tails are left. Hmm... what do
they have in common? I wonder...
>>> >Mission 5 with the big ghosts is a pain though.
>>>
>>> I'd assume it would be easier, if you stopped to kill all the Boom
>>> Boos. 300 points a pop isn't a bad deal for a few seconds of work...
[...]
>See, if you can kill all those ghosts, it would make sense to run
>through once slowly, killing them all, then go through it again quickly
>for technique points. At least, I think it would. I still don't know
>exactly how the Time Points system works.
And I'm right, too! To test my theory, I went after every last ghost and
every last point with no regard to time in Hard Mode. Finished the stage
with just under 18,000 points, zero time points. Now, I'm sure you can score
higher, but I can come back for better scores later.
>>> I can't find Crazy Gadget's Chao. It's in the maze, right? I have to
>>> activate the Mystic Relic on the Purple Block, then... [rambling]
>>>
>>> Don't tell me exactly where it is, but am I on the right track?
>>>
>>Huh? Activate the ruin and then I think rings appear to light dash. ...
>>I think that's it. But I haven't tried it in a while.
Oh. Just. Hold. Forward. Hee hee. Don't mind me.
Anyone else think, by the time they got to Crazy Gadget, Yuji Naka was
already thinking about how a 3D version of Tetris would work?
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When you start up as rouge, a tunnel opens off rip and you play mystic melody with her.
When you start as knuckles theres platforms that appear, you climb up them and take the pulley, mystic melody again.
Now when you're playing as sonic and you get to the waterslide, right at the start theres a line of rings you can dash up. Hold up, and you should come to a platform with two enemies, kill them, proceed, kill the next three and get your chao. Beat it under 7 minutes for an A rank. Constantly use the time stops when you can as they stop the clock.
For metal harbor A rank, just try and get all the rings, get as many combo kills as you can, hit the rails when you can, and if you do it right you dont need to take the upper path on the rocket for the A rank. But if you want to, hold the spin dash button and turn around the corner being very careful as to not hit the walls, quickly kill the enemies and use the ring dash to get to the spring to grab the rocket. I usually end up with either 1:40 left or 0:40.
For Crazy Gadget chao, use the mystic melody on the purple block and light dash up the rings and hold up. Thats it.
Final Rush is just too easy when you get the hang of it.
4 more missions until all A ranks. Over a decade of experience. Come at me bro.