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Trevor Ashman

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Sep 24, 2001, 10:15:00 AM9/24/01
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Does anyone think there will be a sequel to " Miss Congeniality "? I
hope so.

neenner

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Sep 24, 2001, 10:40:25 AM9/24/01
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Well..

Sandra produced Miss Congeniality herself, and when interviewed on that she
said that although she enjoyed producing it, she wasn't going to produce
anything else from a long time. But here's to hoping there will be...


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Doug Jones

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Sep 24, 2001, 1:22:39 PM9/24/01
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 02:15:00 +1200, Trevor Ashman <ash...@ihug.co.nz>
wrote:

>Does anyone think there will be a sequel to " Miss Congeniality "? I
>hope so.
>

I've got mixed feelings about a sequel... on one hand, I'd like to see
them do it, but on the other hand, sequels usually suck.

Doug Jones


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Congeniality82

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Sep 24, 2001, 8:47:50 PM9/24/01
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NOOO! Leave the movie alone :) I think its good just the way it is. Remember
what happend to speed 2?? just think about it for a bit.

Ash

Stephen...of the Future!

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Sep 24, 2001, 8:50:28 PM9/24/01
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Seems that on Tue, 25 Sep 2001 02:15:00 +1200, someone named Trevor
Ashman <ash...@ihug.co.nz> scribbled:

>Does anyone think there will be a sequel to " Miss Congeniality "? I
>hope so.
>

I doubt it. I think it was when she was doing interviews for "Hope
Floats" that she would never do a sequel ever again due to the dismal
performance of "Speed 2."

-Stephen

$p@m H8er

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Sep 24, 2001, 10:50:36 PM9/24/01
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What...do you remember Speed 2???

I enjoyed Speed 2 (ok, all Sandra Bullock movies), but the critics reemed
it hard!

Doug Jones wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 02:15:00 +1200, Trevor Ashman <ash...@ihug.co.nz>
> wrote:
> >Does anyone think there will be a sequel to " Miss Congeniality "? I
> >hope so.
>
> I've got mixed feelings about a sequel... on one hand, I'd like to see
> them do it, but on the other hand, sequels usually suck.

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lichtgestalt

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Sep 25, 2001, 1:56:00 PM9/25/01
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Stephen...of the Future! wrote:
>>Does anyone think there will be a sequel to " Miss Congeniality "? I
>>hope so.

> I doubt it. I think it was when she was doing interviews for "Hope
> Floats" that she would never do a sequel ever again due to the dismal
> performance of "Speed 2."

And I think she's right there. IMO there are very few stories that can
be continued in a sequel. "Miss Congeniality" isn't one. The movie lived
from having a dorky FBI agent transformed into a beauty queen.
Preventing the assassination/bombing was just a means to get into this
constellation. That doesn't make it a cop movie. Those OTOH can
sometimes very well be continued as proven by Lethal Weapon or maybe Die
Hard for example.
Trying to make a sequel will either be ridiculous (imagine a dork in
cooking contest or in a pilot school or anything else loosely connected
to the first "Miss Congeniality" undercover-contest-story) or it is a
completely different story and thus cannot be called a MC sequel. Then
you may want to consider "Murder by Numbers" the sequel as Sandy is
again a FBI agent... :)

No, sequels almost never work. As a warning see Highlander as the most
horrible abomination in my memory. A movie with an original and unique
story combined with a good cast, great soundtrack, masterful cuts and a
complete and definite ending that ties all plot strings is resurrected
and butchered in a second, third and, from what I've heard, fourth part!
Thanks Sandy for sparing your fans this kind embarassment ;)


Take care
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Vaxxon1

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Oct 14, 2001, 6:12:51 AM10/14/01
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>I've got mixed feelings about a sequel... on one hand, I'd like to see
>them do it, but on the other hand, sequels usually suck.

It's not because of the fact that a film is a sequel that automatically makes
them bad it's actually the situation that these certain truly awful films just
happen to be sequels. There are a few classic films that are sequels. Films
that surpasssed the original that spawned them. Both in scope and quality.
The Bride of Frankenstein, The Empire Strikes Back, Mad Max 2, ALIENS, and my
absolute favorite American film, the unsurpassed and superlative The Godfather,
Part II, as well as other not-so-classic films like Batman Returns, Predator 2,
and Young Guns II. Now with regards to Miss Congeniality 2, I can't see how
they can come up with a concept that would work without becoming a rehash of
sorts. I think Speed 2 could have been a great film if they had only bothered
to put in some effort so it's silly for Ms. Bullock to say that she wouldn't do
a sequel becuse of it. I mean, c'mon. How can she seriously expect us to
believe that she had no idea how bad the film would be when she was making it?
Fim stars such as her don't make their money by turning out duds.

james armstrong

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Oct 15, 2001, 4:04:50 AM10/15/01
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all films are sequals, they have all been done before. their isnt an idea
that hasent been thought of by someone else somewhere sometime somehow.
james
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Doug Jones

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Oct 15, 2001, 12:50:21 PM10/15/01
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:04:50 GMT, "james armstrong"
<JARMS...@satx.rr.com> wrote:

>all films are sequals, they have all been done before. their isnt an idea
>that hasent been thought of by someone else somewhere sometime somehow.
>james

In the strictest sense, you're right. Ms Congeniality can be
considered a sequel to George Bernard Shaw's play "Pygmalion", which
was itself a sequel to the ancient Greek myth. :-)

To answer Vaxxon, though, I said that sequels *usually* suck, not
automatically. For every one that has a good sequel, or a sequel that
was even better than the first, there are 10 others where a sequel was
made and it was far and away worse than the original. To paraphrase
an old saying, if you hear of a sequel being made to a movie it may
not be lousy, but that's the way to bet. :-)

>> Fim stars such as her don't make their money by turning out duds.

Well, they don't make all their money this way, but they can get a
*lot* of money thrown at them to make a sequel to their successful
films, even if it's a dud. It's only if they have string of duds that
their salaries drop.

Doug Jones

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Vaxxon1

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Oct 16, 2001, 2:08:10 AM10/16/01
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>>> all films are sequals, they have all been done before. their isnt an idea
that hasent been thought of by someone else somewhere sometime somehow. <<<

Wrong. What you describe is not a sequel, it's a rehash. Generally speaking,
most films recycle themes and concepts that have by now been done to death.
Sure, there are certain films that give a familiar plot a unique twist but
there is virtually nothing truly original coming forth from the studios these
days. Even the vast majority of what the independant film industry puts out is
mostly over-rated, over-hyped, self-indulgent crap.

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