What is your opinion on Naoko Takeuchi's treatment in Comic-Con?
Michi-chan
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> What is your opinion on Naoko Takeuchi's (creator of Sailormoon) treatment
> in Comic-Com?
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It could have been handled better.
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A *lot* better.
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how was she treated?
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what was so bad about her treatment at the convention?
Did something go wrong?
Rosen
>what was so bad about her treatment at the convention?
>Did something go wrong?
*She* wasn't treated bad, but the fans apparently were. SOS have a
report of it on their page.
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James Helferty
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> ange...@erols.com wrote:
> >what was so bad about her treatment at the convention?
> >Did something go wrong?
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> *She* wasn't treated bad, but the fans apparently were. SOS have a
> report of it on their page.
Well, according to SOS, Stu treated Naoko just as badly.
I'd like to hear the perspective of a non-SOS member, just to provide some
balance. (Not that I'm totally discounting what SOS says; I just don't want
to base my opinion of Stu and Mixx entirely on the word-of-mouth of one
organization.)
James
..not that it'd change my opinion of Stu by much..
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Aaron Maupin
<jhel...@chat.carleton.ca> wrote:
> Well, according to SOS, Stu treated Naoko just as badly.
I'm sorry, but we didn't report anything like that. You may want to read
our story on the Comic-Con again - it's definitely the fans who were
mistreated. As far as I could tell Naoko was treated fairly by Mr. Levy
during the question and answer session and the autograph session.
(I will agree that mistreating Naoko's fans in some way reflects on her,
but there's no way she was treated "just as badly" as those who went to
Comic-Con to see her.)
Mr. Levy seemed to treat her editor unfairly; Stu never brought him into
the Q&A session. However it's possible this was requested beforehand.
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James Helferty
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> In article <360975BE...@chat.carleton.ca>, James Helferty
> <jhel...@chat.carleton.ca> wrote:
>
> > Well, according to SOS, Stu treated Naoko just as badly.
>
> I'm sorry, but we didn't report anything like that. You may want to read
> our story on the Comic-Con again - it's definitely the fans who were
> mistreated. As far as I could tell Naoko was treated fairly by Mr. Levy
> during the question and answer session and the autograph session.
I was referring to the point at which one of the reviewers recounted how they
had went to give something to Naoko, and Stu had reached his arms out as
though to take it for her. That would certainly tick me off. (If someone was
trying to give me something, and someone tried to take it for me.)
> (I will agree that mistreating Naoko's fans in some way reflects on her,
> but there's no way she was treated "just as badly" as those who went to
> Comic-Con to see her.)
There was also the instance of the "possible rewording" of Naoko's comments.
I would be deeply offended if I had a translator working for me, and he
decided that what I had said wasn't good for the audience.
Along the same vien, it sounded a lot like some of the translations were
specifically worded so as to draw a certain response from the crowd. (eg; the
question concerning "what people think of wiccan", etc. This sounded a lot
more like Stu was doing market research..)
> Mr. Levy seemed to treat her editor unfairly; Stu never brought him into
> the Q&A session. However it's possible this was requested beforehand.
They did acknowledge her editor though, right?
James
..who still wants to hear an alternative viewpoint..
Aaron Maupin
<jhel...@chat.carleton.ca> wrote:
> I was referring to the point at which one of the reviewers recounted how they
> had went to give something to Naoko, and Stu had reached his arms out as
> though to take it for her. That would certainly tick me off. (If someone was
> trying to give me something, and someone tried to take it for me.)
I don't think this bothered Naoko much, certainly not as much as our
member who reported it. Naoko deferred to Stu in all things. As far as I
know she didn't even speak Japanese to my friends who spoke to her, but
only said "thank you" in English.
All her gifts were either placed in a pile to the side of the table
against the wall by Stu, or given to a security guard who did the same.
If you ask me, it seemed that Stu thought that this was an assembly line
and he was just making good time by hurrying along the gift's trip to the
wall.
> There was also the instance of the "possible rewording" of Naoko's comments.
> I would be deeply offended if I had a translator working for me, and he
> decided that what I had said wasn't good for the audience.
I don't think this is something Naoko would really pick up on.
> Along the same vien, it sounded a lot like some of the translations were
> specifically worded so as to draw a certain response from the crowd. (eg; the
> question concerning "what people think of wiccan", etc. This sounded a lot
> more like Stu was doing market research..)
I can't say. I think it was more Naoko doing market research. For this
specific question you mention, a friend thought that Stu didn't quite
understand what Naoko was talking about.
> They did acknowledge her editor though, right?
Sure, he was introduced in the beginning. Then he just sat there.
> James
> ..who still wants to hear an alternative viewpoint..
Hey, I'd like to hear other viewpoints as well. Did anyone think Naoko
was treated badly by Mixx?
Rosen
>Naoko deferred to Stu in all things. As far as I
>know she didn't even speak Japanese to my friends who spoke to her, but
>only said "thank you" in English.
Probably (rightfully) afraid that things might get confused and long-winded
if she'd start engaging in offline conversations, in whatever language.
It can get really clogged up if a celebrity doesn't stick to protocol when
dealing with a mass of fans; she's said to never do autographs outside
of signing sessions so it's likely she has previous experience of it.
>> They did acknowledge her editor though, right?
>Sure, he was introduced in the beginning. Then he just sat there.
They still could have involved him somehow -- like that, he could
just as well have been replaced with a mannequin, which doesn't
sound worth the bother of crossing the Pacific. (And this *is* the
guy who came up with the basic idea of a sailor-suited fighter for
love and justice, isn't it?) Let's hope he got to do some out-of-con
sightseeing so he at least got something out of his visit.
>Hey, I'd like to hear other viewpoints as well. Did anyone think Naoko
>was treated badly by Mixx?
I wasn't there, for natural reasons ^_^ but it's probably hard to tell
what she thought of it unless someone's been at Japanese cons and
seen how she was treated there. It's not like she hasn't been special
guest at Sailor Moon-related events before...