Are Chibi-Moon and Sailor Saturn gay?
XStar Catx
They are 9 and 12 (I am pretty sure) and I have seen MANY pics from the manga
of them naked and holding hands but they are NOT gay. Chibi-usa gets married
to Helios in the future I'm pretty sure.
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kristyn lier
lazar wrote [to a post i do not have]:
>>>I'm noticing a pattern in all your posts. You seem to have some
kind of pre-occupation with homosexuality. Nothing wrong with
that. Just making an observation. Chibi-Moon and Saturn are best
friends and in the Japanese culture gives less connotations.<<<
tcurryfan wrote:
>>Indeed. in many countries it's NOT considered ecchi for women to hold hands, even in public (I'm not sure about guys). And people can "love" members of the same sex without being gay. Conversely, gays can love members of the opposite sex without being straight. There are many types of "love" and to immediately assume that two people who love each other must be "lovers" really dimishes the full range of feelings people can have for each other.<<
here here ^_^
i couldn't have said it better myself. well spoken. and it's the
truth :)
k-chan
kristyn lier
TCurryFan wrote:
"lazar wrote::
romulo g mutuc
XStar Catx wrote:
>
> They are 9 and 12 (I am pretty sure)
They're the same age by the fifth series. The Demon was only a year
younger than her in the third series.
> and I have seen MANY pics from the manga
> of them naked and holding hands but they are NOT gay.
For the record, the same goes for all of the senshi.
> Chibi-usa gets married
> to Helios in the future I'm pretty sure.
You never see anything near that happen, but they do probably love each
other.
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"kristyn lier <debt...@hotmail.com>" said:
>lazar wrote [to a post i do not have]:
Thanks. It just amazes me that two people can't be shown being friendly or
affectionate without people thinking someting *must* be going on between them.
BTW, I'm someting of a Haruka fan mayself. (-;
>k-chan
"Dolores, I've got five days to finish this movie. Don't get goofy on me."
-Johnny Depp as Ed Wood, _Ed_Wood_.
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>
>There's this scene that I saw in the manga where Sailor Saturn
>and Chibi-Moon (Reenie) are holding hands. Now, I know that
>homosexuality is afrequent theme in Japanese anime and manga
>so I have to know... are they lesbians?
Since when does holding hands with your best friend make you gay?!? Valen help
us all... :-P
-erica
-Who would hate to have to administer the Rorschach test to Joel Berger.
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Joel Sia
Zoe Tsukino (*ztsu...@geocities.com*) wrote:
:
: Here's one thing I've always wondered, how do people get the Rei being
: in love with Usagi thing?
Good question.. maybe it's because we all see it and just deny it? Hmm..
E S
who wonders how many people have watch project A-ko..
C-ko and B-ko are very similar to Usagi and Rei.
:
: --
Stormagnet
In article <63nsm4$n...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
dz...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Joel Berger) writes:
>There's this scene that I saw in the manga where Sailor Saturn
>and Chibi-Moon (Reenie) are holding hands. Now, I know that
>homosexuality is afrequent theme in Japanese anime and manga
>so I have to know... are they lesbians?
From the corner, ETROD gives a low growl...
Riss reaches for her collection of fuzzy dice...
"Hotaru-chan... is...NOT... in.. love... with... that... DEMON!!!"
ETROD pounces.
Fuzzy dice fly through the air
"The dice have landed on '1' and '3'. You have four seconds remaining
until complete annhiliation. 2... 1.... Good bye, and have a nice day."
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<KABOOM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
~Stormagnet
She's mine, I tell you!!
At least, once she's sixteen... ^^;;;;
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// "You have been thwapped by the HOT PINK FUZZY \\
// DICE OF DOOM! The dice have landed on ' 1 ' and \\
// ' 6 ' You have seven seconds until complete and utter \\
// annhiliation. Have a nice day!!" \\
//
\\
// Random Thought of the Day: Blowing bubbles with \\
// chewing gum.... \\
//
\\
// Worship the glory that is Saturn, puny mortal!! \\
// Please? I'll be your friend!! \\
//
\\
// Wanna send me hate mail, spam, etc? \\
// Send it to stev...@aol.com \\
//
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kristyn lier
joe wrote:
-some snippage <gomen, erica-chan ^_^;> -
>>Uhh--the only thing I've seen that might suggest something more is a
picture in Art Book 3 (upper right corner of the big fold-out of the
entire S cast). Of course, that's about as much "proof" as is giver
in the Lita lesbian threads, so is probabally as false.<<
your right. it is false. they are very close friends, like sisters
but so much more. they are bonded by trust, love, friendship,
understanding, and peace and in each other and their friends they find
happiness <this is applying to all the senshi now>.
i will repeat, the only lesbian/gay couple in sailor moon is
harukamichiru.
*sigh* :/
k-chan
kristyn lier
tcurryfan wrote:
>>>>Indeed. in many countries it's NOT considered ecchi for
women to hold hands, even in public (I'm not sure about guys). And
people can "love" members of the same sex without being gay.
Conversely, gays can love members of the opposite sex without being
straight. There are many types of "love" and to immediately assume that
two people who love each other must be "lovers" really dimishes the full
range of feelings people can have for each other.<<<<
k-chan wrote:
>>>here here ^_^
i couldn't have said it better myself. well spoken. and it's the
truth :)<<<
tcurryfan wrote:
>>Thanks. [k-chan insert: "dou itishimashite" ^_^] It just amazes me that two people can't be shown being friendly or affectionate without people thinking someting *must* be going on between them.
BTW, I'm someting of a Haruka fan mayself. (-; <<
yeah. harukamichiru are my fav couple [haruka my fav senshi] on sailor
moon, in fact. my fav all time television couple. they are the most
realistic lesbian couple i have seen portrayed in both written and video
form. with so much of the other slop that misrepresents the majority of
gay couples, it really is nice.
and for me, it takes a kind of personal note, because as a lesbian i
know what it's like. it's hard to find someone <i should know, i'm
still looking :/ > but most of all, it's very frustrating dealing with
the everyday misconceptions and ignorance surrounding a part of your
life. yeah, i'm a lesbian but i'm also a whole lot of other things
which tend to get lost or ignored.
but, not on afsm. the people here are truly wonderful and i hold 'em
all dear. it's always a pleasure at afsm ^_^
k-chan,
feeling very happy 'cause her chrissy-poo is back in town and to stay
^_^ yay! ^_^
TCurryFan
"kristyn lier <debt...@hotmail.com>" said:
tcurryfan wrote:
>>Thanks. [k-chan insert: "dou itishimashite" ^_^] It just amazes
Well, I just checked the uFAQ... Would you mind telling what that means?
>>me that two people can't be shown being friendly or affectionate without
people thinking someting *must* be going on between them.
BTW, I'm someting of a Haruka fan myself. (-; <<
>yeah. harukamichiru are my fav couple [haruka my fav senshi] on sailor moon,
in fact. my fav all time television couple.
Cool. Someday I might actually get to see them... (-:
>they are the most realistic lesbian couple i have seen portrayed in both
written and video form. with so much of the other slop that misrepresents the
majority of gay couples, it really is nice.
and for me, it takes a kind of personal note, because as a lesbian i
know what it's like. <
It's hard to find "real" gay people on tv. <sigh>
>it's hard to find someone <i should know, i'm still looking :/ > <
I hear ya!
>but most of all, it's very frustrating dealing with the everyday
misconceptions and ignorance surrounding a part of your
life. yeah, i'm a lesbian but i'm also a whole lot of other things
which tend to get lost or ignored.<
Indeed. Being gay is no more the "center" of your life than being "straight"
is the center of miine. Yes, it's an IMPORTANT part, but I doubt you think
about it 24 hours a day. (-;
>but, not on afsm. the people here are truly wonderful and i hold
'em all dear. it's always a pleasure at afsm ^_^ <
Awwww... Kawaii!
>k-chan,
feeling very happy 'cause her chrissy-poo is back in town and to stay
^_^ yay! ^_^<
"Dolores, I've got five days to finish this movie. Don't get goofy on me."
Joe Gerber
It was with a bemused expression on my face that on 5 Nov 1997
23:11:52 GMT, I read tcur...@aol.com (TCurryFan) write:
>"kristyn lier <debt...@hotmail.com>" said:
>
>>>Thanks. [k-chan insert: "dou itishimashite" ^_^] It just amazes
>
>Well, I just checked the uFAQ... Would you mind telling what that means?
"My pleasure"
HTH HAND
<bunch o' stuff that, while insightful, I decided to mericilessly
destroy anyway>
>>but, not on afsm. the people here are truly wonderful and i hold
> 'em all dear. it's always a pleasure at afsm ^_^ <
>
>Awwww... Kawaii!
I-I'm touched. (No, I'm not going to start another one of those
"group hug" threads, so you can stop worring!)
Joe
(<whispering> Group hug!)
Jared 'The Zucchini Guy' Putnam
Lance Cunning wrote:
>
> Zoe Tsukino wrote:
>
> >
> > Here's one thing I've always wondered, how do people get the Rei being
> >
> > in love with Usagi thing?
>
> those lust full eyes and pouting lips... And you do know that in Sailor
> Moon G(ay) that everyone turns either homosexual or gay... Come'on... I
> know you have had to seen episodes 201-246... Even Mamo-chan gets
> into the "Act"
See? See!? Someone else remembers that as well!! Episode 227, in
which everyone and their clone acts like they're gay! Except,
and I've repeated this innumerable times[1], Usagi, of course.
So, for the last time, for all those that didn't hear...
<deep breath>
THAT WAS HER CLONE!!! THE EYES ARE A DIFFERENT COLOR! YOU CAN TELL!
heh, heh.
Zucchini kawatte, oshioki yo!
Is it just me, or is there an awful lot of sarcasm on the computer
lab walls?
kristyn lier
k-chan wrote:
-some stuff snipped-
>>>but, not on afsm. the people here are truly wonderful and i hold
'em all dear. it's always a pleasure at afsm ^_^ <<<
joe gerber wrote:
>>I-I'm touched.<<
^_^ tis just the simple truth
>>(No, I'm not going to start another one of those "group hug" threads, so you can stop worring!)<<
^o^ whew!! god, for a minute there i was getting worried >:|
>>Joe
(<whispering> Group hug!)<<
O_o ut! o_O ......... -thud!- X_X
k-chan
kristyn lier
tcurryfan wrote:
>>>Thanks. [k-chan insert: "dou itishimashite" ^_^]
it means along the lines of you're welcome or my pleasure> basically, a
fairly formal your welcome.
k-chan wrote:
>>>yeah. harukamichiru are my fav couple [haruka my fav senshi] on sailor moon, in fact. my fav all time television couple.
tcurryfan wrote:
>>Cool. Someday I might actually get to see them... (-: <<
O_O gasp! O_O
nani?!! you've enver seen haruka and/or michiru?!?!
<shock> @_@
>>It's hard to find "real" gay people on tv. <sigh> <<
tell me about it. and now, i find myslf noticing more how almost
everything on tv is geared towards the heterosexual couple> commercials,
ads, and so forth. from the little things to the big things. like, i
have yet to see a commercial for a wedding ring or for diamonds were a
woman is buying one for her partner or a man is buying one for his. all
those things. demo, i don't let them bother me ^_^ someday, in the
future maybe, those barriors will be tron down. after all, they are
only in our minds, a projection of peoples fears, prejudices <prejudice
has many dif. meanings>, ignorance, and naivette.
thank the goddes for Ellen :)
k-chan wrote:
>>>it's hard to find someone <i should know, i'm still looking :/ > <<<
tcurryfan wrote:
>>I hear ya!<<
yeah.....wait aminute, what am i cheering about :?
*sigh* oh well. on a happy note, i heard back from barbars at PFLAG of
vero and we talked for quite a bit and i have the info i needed. i
can't wait to go their next meeting on the 25th. am missing the
thanksgiving party on monday though 'cause i'll be in jacksonville
having a grande ol time wiht my ottosan, jen-chan, josh, and mrs. brown.
so, no regrets ^_^
>>Indeed. Being gay is no more the "center" of your life than being "straight" is the center of miine. Yes, it's an IMPORTANT part, but I doubt you think about it 24 hours a day. (-; <<
nope ^_^ i only think about it 23.5 hours a day ;P
honestly though, it's not something i really think about too much
because it just who i naturally am. it's there, but that's it. just
like you being hetero is there, and that's it. it is a me that makes up
the whole me :)
k-chan,
kinda sleepy but needing to get her time in on afsm /_\
TCurryFan
"kristyn lier <debt...@hotmail.com>" said:
>tcurryfan wrote:
>>Thanks. [k-chan insert: "dou itishimashite" ^_^]
Well, I just checked the uFAQ... Would you mind telling what
that means?<<
k-chan wrote:
> it means along the lines of you're welcome or my pleasure>
basically, a fairly formal your welcome.<
Ahhhh.. Ok. Arigato.
>k-chan wrote:
>>>yeah. harukamichiru are my fav couple [haruka my fav senshi]
on sailor moon, in fact. my fav all time television couple.<<<
tcurryfan wrote:
>>Cool. Someday I might actually get to see them... (-: <<
k-chan wrote:
> O_O gasp! O_O
nani?!! you've enver seen haruka and/or michiru?!?!
<shock> @_@<
No. I'm trying to get enough money or some trades together to get some
fansubbed tapes, but that's still in the works. And even when I do, I want to
get the first season first. Then I might skip to SMS. But I'd like SMR, too,
to see what all the fuss is about Chiba-Usa.
I guess I should point out that I've only been interested in SM for about
(looks at watch)... a month now.
tcurryfan wrote:
>>It's hard to find "real" gay people on tv. <sigh> <<
k-chan wrote:
> tell me about it. and now, i find myslf noticing more how
almost everything on tv is geared towards the heterosexual couple> commercials,
ads, and so forth. from the little things to the
big things. like, i have yet to see a commercial for a wedding ring or for
diamonds were a woman is buying one for her partner or a man is buying one for
his. all those things. demo, i don't let them bother me ^_^ someday, in the
future maybe, those barriors will be tron down. <
There is ONE ad I've seen... It's for an electric shaver... A guy is lying in
bed, and another guy (brother? boyfriend?) comes in and wakes him up and
tells him he's gonna be late for this interview or meeting or something. The
never say what the relationship between the two guy is. (-:
k-chan wrote:
>after all, they are only in our minds, a projection of peoples fears,
prejudices <prejudice has many dif. meanings>, ignorance, and naivette. thank
the goddes for Ellen :)
(-:
>k-chan wrote:
>>>it's hard to find someone <i should know, i'm still
looking :/ > <<<
>tcurryfan wrote:
>>I hear ya!<<
k-chan wrote:
> yeah.....wait aminute, what am i cheering about :?<
I have no clue... (-:
k-chan wrote:
> *sigh* oh well. on a happy note, i heard back from barbars at PFLAG of
vero and we talked for quite a bit and i have the info i needed. i can't wait
to go their next meeting on the 25th.
am missing the thanksgiving party on monday though 'cause i'll be in
jacksonville having a grande ol time wiht my ottosan, jen-chan, josh, and mrs.
brown. so, no regrets ^_^ <
Cool. (-:
tcurryfan wrote:
>>Indeed. Being gay is no more the "center" of your life than
being "straight" is the center of miine. Yes, it's an IMPORTANT part, but I
doubt you think about it 24 hours a day. (-; <<
k-chan wrote:
> nope ^_^ i only think about it 23.5 hours a day ;P
D'OH! (-;
> honestly though, it's not something i really think about too much
because it just who i naturally am. it's there, but that's it. just like you
being hetero is there, and that's it. it is a me that makes up the whole me
:) <
>k-chan,
>kinda sleepy but needing to get her time in on afsm /_\
I know the feeling. (-:
ADresc9197
> tell me about it. and now, i find myslf noticing more how almost
>everything on tv is geared towards the heterosexual couple> commercials,
>ads, and so forth. from the little things to the big things. like, i
>have yet to see a commercial for a wedding ring or for diamonds were a
>woman is buying one for her partner or a man is buying one for his. all
>those things. demo, i don't let them bother me ^_^ someday, in the
>has many dif. meanings>, ignorance, and naivette.
> thank the goddes for Ellen :)
>
>
You know what has always puzzled me? The people who claim that a gay couple
holding hands in the street are "flaunting" their homosexuality, when really,
everywhere you go you can see straight couples flaunting their
heterosexuality. We tend not to think of it as "flaunting," because we've
been taught that it's the "norm," but a good part of our culture is virtually
built around heterosexual relationships. TV shows and songs are all about
them; the love lives of straight celebrities are made public business; books
on "how to get along with your husband/wife" are best-sellers; commercials and
ads flaunt the idea of romance between straight couples...to be honest, if I
was an otherworldly visitor from a planet with no concept of sexual
orientation, I would conclude that humans were obsessed with heterosexual
relationships.
And if I ever fell in love with another woman and wanted to hold her hand as we
walked down the street, I would not do it to say, "Hey, look, everyone! We're
having a lesbian relationship!" If I wanted people to know it THAT badly, I
could damn well scream it. I would hold her hand because I loved her and
wanted to make her happy. I wouldn't even care if people saw me, because it
is none of society's business what I want to do with one other consenting
adult.
-erica
kristyn lier
tcurryfan wrote:
>>No. I'm trying to get enough money or some trades together to get some fansubbed tapes, but that's still in the works. And even when I do, I want to get the first season first. Then I might skip to SMS. But I'd like SMR, too, to see what all the fuss is about Chiba-Usa.
I guess I should point out that I've only been interested in SM for
about (looks at watch)... a month now.<<
newbie or not, welcome to afsm. wow, a whole month watching sailor
mooon.....spiffy ^_^. so how'd yuou find out about afsm?
i know the feeling. i have the first SMS tape from VKLL <whom i highly
recommend> but i've kinda hit a financial rut regarding fansubs right
now. i'm busy buying other stuff so they've kinda been put on hold :/
>There is ONE ad I've seen... It's for an electric shaver... A guy is lying in bed, and another guy (brother? boyfriend?) comes in and wakes him up and tells him he's gonna be late for this interview or meeting or something. The never say what the relationship between the two guy is. (-:<<
the slacker dude without the job is the other dude's younger brother.
he was crashing at his brother's for some reason. so, nope, not a
couple, just brothers ^_^
k-chan,
relaxin' till time to go to the cafe and meet marti, chris, and danny
later :)
TCurryFan
"kristyn lier <debt...@hotmail.com>" said:
>tcurryfan wrote:
>>No. I'm trying to get enough money or some trades together to
>>get some fansubbed tapes, but that's still in the works. And even
>>when I do, I want to get the first season first. Then I might skip
>>to SMS. But I'd like SMR, too, to see what all the fuss is about
>>Chiba-Usa.
>>I guess I should point out that I've only been interested in SM
>>for about (looks at watch)... a month now.
>
> newbie or not, welcome to afsm. wow, a whole month
>watching sailor mooon.....spiffy ^_^.
Not really. As I mentioned in another thread, I don't watch it- I'm waiting to
get fansubs, and in the meantime, I don't want to watch the DiC version, lets
I get confused. (-: But I have seen three eps of the DiC version.
>so how'd yuou find out about afsm?
Ummm... I don't remember. /-:
> i know the feeling. i have the first SMS tape from
>VKLL <whom i highly recommend> but i've kinda hit a financial
>rut regarding fansubs right now. i'm busy buying other stuff so
>they've kinda been put on hold :/
Yeah... I'm on a tight budget, so I'm not sure how many I'm gonna be able to
get...
>>There is ONE ad I've seen... It's for an electric shaver... A guy
>>is lying in bed, and another guy (brother? boyfriend?) comes in
>>and wakes him up and tells him he's gonna be late for this
>>interview or meeting or something. The never say what the >>relationship
between the two guy is. (-:
>
> the slacker dude without the job is the other dude's
>younger brother. he was crashing at his brother's for some
>reason. so, nope, not a couple, just brothers ^_^
Ah, but they never SAY that in the ad... That's my point. So you csan make up
any story you want about them. (-:
>k-chan,
>relaxin' till time to go to the cafe and meet marti, chris, and danny
>later :)
"Dolores, I've got five days to finish this movie. Don't get goofy on me."
Abby Wilson
On 4 Nov 1997 19:22:44 GMT, dz...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Joel Berger)
wrote:
>
>There's this scene that I saw in the manga where Sailor Saturn
>and Chibi-Moon (Reenie) are holding hands. Now, I know that
>homosexuality is afrequent theme in Japanese anime and manga
>so I have to know... are they lesbians?
I'm sorry, But Joel, you are starting to tork me off!
No, I seriously doubt that they are gay, bi, or anything else than
good friends.
As for the message you posted about Mina and her cat; I have a cat
that sits in front of the shower when I'm taking a shower, and he even
pops his head in occationally. I think he just gets bored and wants to
see what's taking so long. Maybe even to make sure I didn't drown.
Now Moon and Mars, no I don't think so, I thinks it's just what it
appears to be; Two friends who don't agree on anything and are
constantly trying to out do each other. I think that's healthy.
I don't mean for this to sound me ar spiteful, butI think you have to
get out of this Homosexual stage you are in.
Abby
ADresc9197
>As for the message you posted about Mina and her cat; I have a cat
>that sits in front of the shower when I'm taking a shower, and he even
>pops his head in occationally. I think he just gets bored and wants to
>see what's taking so long. Maybe even to make sure I didn't drown.
>
>
I remember at our old house(the one I'm living in now has a seperate shower and
bath), my cat used to sit on the edge of the tub, between the inner shower
curtain and outer curtain, while I was taking a shower. She never looked in
on me(that I can remember), just meowed. In retrospect, I think she wanted
attention and couldn't quite comprehend that I wasn't willing to drop
everything I was doing to play with her. ^_^
Of course, there is simply no accounting for the actions of certain cats. Last
summer, when I was staying at my friend's house, one of his cats got into my
suitcase, pulled out some of my underwear and was sniffing it. We took to
calling him "Happo-kitty" for the rest of the visit(aforementioned joke will
make no sense to anyone who isn't a Ranma watcher).