MIXX Ultimatum
Shiva the perpetually busy
Did you post this on the webboard?
Be prepared for an official, political, TOTAL BULLSHIT answer that has no
value.
Perhaps it will make them rethink their policies, but most likely, they
will intellectualize it as one/a couple angry person and just keep
screwing us over.
A lot of small companies are run by people with minimal business knowledge
that go to some shit business school for 12-18 months to learn predatory
pricing procedures and get-rich quick schemes. Megacorps know better than
to totally fuck over customers. Who are the biggest computer manufactures
in the US? Dell and Gateway, both with legendary customer support. Who
is #1 in ag. tractors in the US? John Deere, with their excellent dealer
and customer support.
But you know what? MIXX has a monopoly. Their products are cheap and
easily accessable. Yes, they cost WAY MORE than their Japanese
equivalents, but at the end of the day, $25-40 a year isn't going to
starve me. I can afford to throw that much away to an overpriced product
with dwindling content. It's not a computer. It's not a $100,000
tractor. It's a magazine, and I'm not enough of a consumer watchdog to
give a shit about being ass-raped for two subscriptions a year. I'm still
going to get it.
Now college textbooks on the other hand .....
Remember kids, nothing cool ever lasts. Everything sucks.
Tom Cheng
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Animeg3282
>A lot of small companies are run by people with minimal business knowledge
>that go to some shit business school for 12-18 months to learn predatory
>pricing procedures and get-rich quick schemes. Megacorps know better than
I bet the Mixx guys were on their school's newspaper staffs! ;)
> Yes, they cost WAY MORE than their Japanese
>equivalents, but at the end of the day, $25-40 a year isn't going to
>starve me. I can afford to throw that much away to an overpriced product
>with dwindling content.
Why don't you buy the PM if you like covience so much? they have all manga in
'em and pronbaly will only be made like once or twice a year and cost around
$12 for about 195 pages. a bit expensive.
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>>A lot of small companies are run by people with minimal business knowledge
>>that go to some shit business school for 12-18 months to learn predatory
>>pricing procedures and get-rich quick schemes. Megacorps know better than
>>to totally fuck over customers. \
>I bet the Mixx guys were on their school's newspaper staffs! ;)
I couldn't find the post at all on the Mixx board. Maybe they deleted it.
If so, I wonder if I should repost....
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Robert Johnston
PM. Besides, I alreadt tried. they're just trying to do thair job and
keep us happy at the same time. Now THAT, AFSM peoples, is a helluva'
undertaking to do.
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Erin Gayle
>> Yes, they cost WAY MORE than their Japanese
>>equivalents, but at the end of the day, $25-40 a year isn't going to
>>starve me. I can afford to throw that much away to an overpriced product
>>with dwindling content.
>
>Why don't you buy the PM if you like covience so much? they have all manga in
>'em and pronbaly will only be made like once or twice a year and cost around
>$12 for about 195 pages. a bit expensive.
Of course, if you live in Canada, it cost $18 for a pocket manga,
which is a ridiculously high price for what little you get. Thanks
for thinking of the customers, guys.
Erin Gayle
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Animeg3282
>Of course, if you live in Canada, it cost $18 for a pocket manga,
>which is a ridiculously high price for what little you get. Thanks
>for thinking of the customers, guys.
>
>
<silly>that's why Canadans suck. Even Mixx knows they suck...<silly>(ATTN:if
you get offended by this...how did you get so much free time? I wanna know your
secret!)
Scott Delahunt
Robert Johnston (Canu...@webtv.net) writes:
> Jus' give it up ans support Sailor Moon any way you can. Be it Smile or
> PM. Besides, I alreadt tried. they're just trying to do thair job and
> keep us happy at the same time. Now THAT, AFSM peoples, is a helluva'
> undertaking to do.
Loyalty is a two way street. Mixx has forgotten who the original
subscribers are, and why they did subscribe. Worse, they announced
changes *in the issue after* subscription renewals came in. This could be
likened to bait-and-switch tactics, very illegal in the US.
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Scott Delahunt
Erin Gayle (lasc...@quadrant.net) writes:
> On 5 Sep 1998 16:10:05 GMT, anime...@aol.com (Animeg3282) wrote:
>>Why don't you buy the PM if you like covience so much? they have all manga in
>>'em and pronbaly will only be made like once or twice a year and cost around
>>$12 for about 195 pages. a bit expensive.
> which is a ridiculously high price for what little you get. Thanks
> for thinking of the customers, guys.
Not to mention that some of us here can get the French compilations for
$12-$15 Canadian, same with MKR. We have a choice in some parts of
Canada.
Farix
>
>Loyalty is a two way street. Mixx has forgotten who the original
>subscribers are, and why they did subscribe. Worse, they announced
>changes *in the issue after* subscription renewals came in. This could be
>likened to bait-and-switch tactics, very illegal in the US.
Anyone interested in starting a class-action lawsuit?
Farix
Animeg3282
>undertaking to do.
Yes,it may be impossible but do you think we'll let a few name changes be more
annoying than US? NO WAY IN HECK! ;)
Animeg3282
>Anyone interested in starting a class-action lawsuit?
>
>
::giggles;: I hope you aren't seroius(as you probaly aren't) becuase we'd be
laughed off the planet.
Scott Delahunt
"Farix" (fa...@citynet.net) writes:
> Scott Delahunt wrote in message <6t0nv1$c...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>...
>>Loyalty is a two way street. Mixx has forgotten who the original
>>subscribers are, and why they did subscribe. Worse, they announced
>>changes *in the issue after* subscription renewals came in. This could be
>>likened to bait-and-switch tactics, very illegal in the US.
That's going a little overboard, seeing that there is still time to cancel
any subscriptions - which sends a definite message that cannot be ignored.
Dion Torraville
On 7 Sep 1998, Scott Delahunt wrote:
> Erin Gayle (lasc...@quadrant.net) writes:
> > On 5 Sep 1998 16:10:05 GMT, anime...@aol.com (Animeg3282) wrote:
> >>Why don't you buy the PM if you like covience so much? they have all manga in
> >>'em and pronbaly will only be made like once or twice a year and cost around
> >>$12 for about 195 pages. a bit expensive.
> > Of course, if you live in Canada, it cost $18 for a pocket manga,
> > which is a ridiculously high price for what little you get. Thanks
> > for thinking of the customers, guys.
>
> Not to mention that some of us here can get the French compilations for
> $12-$15 Canadian, same with MKR. We have a choice in some parts of
> Canada.
Heh heh. Times like this I wish I studied a little harder in
French class. ^_^; As it is, I'd need to do a lot of studying in french
before I'd be able to pick one up and read it. ^_^;
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Shiva the perpetually busy
On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Farix wrote:
> Scott Delahunt wrote in message <6t0nv1$c...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>...
> >
> >Loyalty is a two way street. Mixx has forgotten who the original
> >subscribers are, and why they did subscribe. Worse, they announced
> >changes *in the issue after* subscription renewals came in. This could be
> >likened to bait-and-switch tactics, very illegal in the US.
>
> Anyone interested in starting a class-action lawsuit?
>
> Farix
It's too subjective. You can't get a bunch of otaku to agree on anything,
really.
The only thing really quantifiable is the removal of Sailor Moon and the
reduction of pages.
They could make the excuse that the pages are being replaced with their
"wicked kewl" editorial content, and that Sailor Moon is still available,
or that Sailor Moon really was NOT their flagship series, and people were
buying it for MKR or something.
They are in a win-win situation, especially with a monopoly on translated
manga.
Now if a more sophisticated company were to get a hold of some other
popular manga series they may be in for some troubles....
Farix
>
>They are in a win-win situation, especially with a monopoly on translated
>manga.
>
>Now if a more sophisticated company were to get a hold of some other
>popular manga series they may be in for some troubles....
I did hear that one of the other major anime magazines, Animarica?, was
working on their own manga compilation because of the apparent success of
Mixxzine.
Farix
Michi-chan
>
> >
> >I did hear that one of the other major anime magazines, Animarica?, was
> >working on their own manga compilation because of the apparent success of
> >Mixxzine.
>
> Girl Ai and two other manga in it. I believe it comes out in Oct.
They're moving X over there (I still say they were stalling because they
didn't want to translate the next few parts...). I'm not sure what the
other one is (if it's been announced).
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Animeg3282
>I did hear that one of the other major anime magazines, Animarica?, was
>working on their own manga compilation because of the apparent success of
>Mixxzine.
It's called Animerica Extra. I believe it will have Fushigi Yuugi and Video
Girl Ai and two other manga in it. I believe it comes out in Oct.
Small Girl
Erin Gayle
wrote:
>Erin Gayle (lasc...@quadrant.net) writes:
>> On 5 Sep 1998 16:10:05 GMT, anime...@aol.com (Animeg3282) wrote:
>>>Why don't you buy the PM if you like covience so much? they have all manga in
>>>'em and pronbaly will only be made like once or twice a year and cost around
>>>$12 for about 195 pages. a bit expensive.
>> Of course, if you live in Canada, it cost $18 for a pocket manga,
>> which is a ridiculously high price for what little you get. Thanks
>> for thinking of the customers, guys.
>
>Not to mention that some of us here can get the French compilations for
>$12-$15 Canadian, same with MKR. We have a choice in some parts of
>Canada.
Some parts of Canada, which tends to exclude the Prairies ^_^;
Anyone know where I could get MKR in French out here?
Scott Delahunt
Erin Gayle (lasc...@quadrant.net) writes:
> On 7 Sep 1998 13:42:10 GMT, cn...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Scott Delahunt)
> wrote:
>>Not to mention that some of us here can get the French compilations for
>>$12-$15 Canadian, same with MKR. We have a choice in some parts of
>>Canada.
> Some parts of Canada, which tends to exclude the Prairies ^_^;
So sue me for living near the Quebec border. :)
> Anyone know where I could get MKR in French out here?
There's always ordering from Protoculture Addicts. (Now if I could only
find one of the magazines or the flyers from Anime North... ^_^;;)
Phoenix
>Animeg3282 wrote:
>> It's called Animerica Extra. I believe it will have Fushigi Yuugi and Video
>> Girl Ai and two other manga in it. I believe it comes out in Oct.
>
> didn't want to translate the next few parts...). I'm not sure what the
> other one is (if it's been announced).
I'm so darn excited about them translating Video Girl Ai, that I
scanned the advertisment in Previews. Check it out.
http://www.jacksonville.net/~phoenix/manga/aextra1.jpg
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Farix
>Michi-chan wrote:
>>Animeg3282 wrote:
>>> It's called Animerica Extra. I believe it will have Fushigi Yuugi and
Video
>>> Girl Ai and two other manga in it. I believe it comes out in Oct.
>>
>> They're moving X over there (I still say they were stalling because they
>> didn't want to translate the next few parts...). I'm not sure what the
>> other one is (if it's been announced).
>
>I'm so darn excited about them translating Video Girl Ai, that I
>scanned the advertisment in Previews. Check it out.
>http://www.jacksonville.net/~phoenix/manga/aextra1.jpg
Thank you, Phoenix.
BTW, didn't anyone find the line, "America's Best Manga Anthology" a bit
humerous after recent developments at Mixx?
Farix