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Brad Lascelle

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This message is being reposted in its entirety from the Mixx
WebBoard discussion area... where a number of issues have been heating
up without receiving the attention and due care that they deserve.

I encourage any and all of you with any kind of financial stake
in Mixx's line of publications or products... particularly if you're a
current subscriber... to appraise yourselves of all the issues laid
out below and I invite you all to follow along with this thread in the
'Subscription Updates & Questions' section of the Mixx WebBoard (under
the thread "Lets all change this heading") and on your respective
newsgroups and mailing lists.

=======================================================================
Andrew Yi (an...@mixxonline.com) Writes:

> Sorry, I'm kinda lost on this thread. What exactly happened here?
> Why is everyone fighting? Let's all take a breather, and step back
> from posting for a while. About your questions, I think a few I
> answered in another thread, or maybe this one, I can't be sure with
> the set up.

It's okay, Andrew... the WebBoard interface is quite muddled
and complex when it comes to tracking down information so don't worry
yourself about it.

As for the questions which have been tossed about repeatedly on
the WebBoard without clear, concrete responses, I'll be more than
happy to summarize them here for your convenience...

1) Why did Stu pull Sailor Moon from Mixxzine without warning his
loyal reader and subscriber base of the change in advance?

2) Why did Stu lie to his loyal reader and subscriber base with the
smokescreen regarding parental concerns about Sailor Moon's
placement with more controversial titles in Mixxzine?

This is evident because MKR failed to make the transition to
Smile! when it appeals to precisely the same demographic base as
Sailor Moon... and has been further corroborated by other people
with ties to Mixx.

If this was a problem, there would have been efforts last year to
seal Parasyte and Ice Blade or a split in the shoujo / shonen
content would have been made at THAT time.

3) Why did Stu decide to branch out Mixx into two separate
bi-monthly magazines after promising his loyal reader and
subscriber base that Mixxzine would go monthly for over a year?

4) Why did Stu cut back manga content in Mixxzine by 35% from Issue
1-2 to 2-1 without notifying his loyal reader and subscriber base
in advance?

5) Why is Stu shifting the focus of Mixxzine away from a
manga-centric publication to a drastically different format which
has a focus on editorial content, anime and game reviews,
cultural trends, and other new areas without notifying or
consulting with his loyal reader and subscriber base?

This is evident because Mixx has recently brought aboard a team
of writers including Charles McCarter... the Editor-In-Chief of
EX Anime Online (www.ex.org).

This is further evident because of the minimum price increase of
167% per page of translated manga since Issue 1-2 through Mixx's
expanded format in the next two months, given current trends in
Mixx page counts (refer to my response on August 25th as to how
this figure was reached).

6) Why is Stu pursuing this broad-based approach with the Mixx
product and trying to cater to so many new markets without
expanding upon circulation and Mixx's current haphazard
distribution method through Diamond?

7) Why is Stu compressing the size of the already low-resolution
comics in Mixxzine down to the size of a typical page of Pocket
Manga without giving advance notice to his loyal reader and
subscriber base?

8) Why has Stu not made any assurances to his loyal reader and
subscriber base as to the quality of what this compressed format
will look like on the glossy Mixxzine finish... or made any
assurances as to the page count of translated manga being notably
larger than the 202 pages of Issues 1-1 and 1-2 (which had little
advertising support), thus justifying the move as a justifiable
and understandable cost-cutting measure?

9) Why has Stu not allowed his loyal reader and subscriber base to
transfer their Mixxzine subscriptions over to the new Sailor
comic or to even subscribe to it on an independent basis or to
even receive some kind of discount off the cover price when he
knows they'll need to start picking up issues of the comic in
order to follow along with the Sailor Moon storyline as it stands
right now?

10) Why has Stu only allowed his loyal reader and subscriber base to
transfer their Mixxzine subscriptions over to Smile!... which has
a completely different and unique Sailor Moon storyline running
in it and supporting magazine content which has yet to be
expanded upon?

11) Why has Stu priced the Sailor Moon comics so high for his loyal
reader and subscriber base that they'd be better off just
investing in the cheaper Pocket Manga compilation... which is
also a better quality product and saves the aggravation of
missing an issue or tracking down five separate comics to get the
same value?

12) Why has Stu produced a dub adaptation of Kenji's Spring using
only three rushed days of production time and recruiting the Mixx
executive staff and myriad interns as voice actors?

13) What liberties will Stu take with his loyal reader and subscriber
base when deciding upon Mixxified names for the SuperS
translations of the Sailor Moon manga in Smile!? (Baby-Bun as the
new name for Chibi-Usa / Rini already being understood.)

14) How will Stu go about informing the segment of his loyal reader
and subscriber base that is not 'Net savvy about all of the
relevant details pertaining to these issues and transitions which
the majority of them are still presently wholly unaware?

15) What is Stu's position on the mass exodus of former Mixx
employees from the company in recent weeks... most notably of
which is former Mixx Editor-In-Chief and Co-Founder Ron Scovil?

16) What is Stu's position in the wake of the many numerous boycotts
and petitions which have recently been established against his
company in light of his many recent actions and decisions?

17) Why does Stu choose to pursue these issues through covert private
E-Mails instead of addressing them publically to his loyal reader
and subscriber base where his comments truly need to be heard?

18) Why has Stu not made a point of countering or responding to any
of these questions directly, publically, and honestly to his
loyal reader and subscriber base... and has instead chosen to
dodge and ignore each and every one of them with the sole gesture
of tossing a bone out alluding to a 'Fireside Chat' with no
specific date or time fixed to address all of these many issues?

19) Why has Stu condoned the use of WebBoard plants such as Scott
Adams to vent his frustrations and leak rumors about prospective
titles Mixx might be considering for future acquisition and
translation?

20) And finally... what are Stu's motivations for Mixx Online given
the change in direction of the Mixx philosophy and existing sites
which already offer similar content?

I'll stop right there as I'm not obligated to hit a magic
number like Mark McGwire in order to cover all the necessary points of
contention.

Although, I might also add why doesn't Stu feel public
relations for his company is worth his time or money... as he's done
little to help in that department himself and I'm sure he's paying you
the bare minimum ($6 an hour according to California state law) or
nothing at all to deal with people like myself and all of your other
numerous tasks, Andrew.

Frankly, I'm quite sympathetic to your plight.

Stu has convinced you that you have a 'dream job', and yet he
pays you little to nothing.

Stu has convinced you that all of Mixx's public relations
problems are YOUR fault... something you said as much yourself just a
few days ago... which couldn't be further from the truth.

You've had nothing to do with the current situation, Andrew...
and there's little you could have done to prevent where things are
now.

Fact is, Stu's kept you obliviously ignorant of quite a number
of facts and details that someone in your capacity should be readily
aware of... as such I don't expect you to be capable of answering or
addressing any of those issues tabulated above. These are things Stu
must answer to himself.

Sad thing is... Stu has even convinced you (and has tried to
convince others) that he is a fellow manga and anime enthusiast...
which couldn't be further from the truth.

He never touched a manga before founding Mixx. That collection
of manga you mentioned a week ago in Victor Chin's office were all
provided by Kodansha. A sizable chunk of the office manga collection
that wasn't provided by Kodansha was boxed up and removed when Ron
Scovil left in July.

It's quite likely that Stu has barely touched any of those
Kodansha titles... although, feel free to inquire him about specific
titles and storylines if you'd like that detail clarified when he
returns from Japan.

These questions will not go away on their own.

They will continue to persist until they are dealt with in a
mature, competent manner.

They will only grow in significance as the majority of your
loyal reader and subscriber base discovers the changes to Mixxzine 2-2
later this month.

They will explode in furor as a site which likely gets as many
if not more hits as your own posts a report in a few days that
condemns your company's handling of Naoko Takeuchi's appearance at the
San Diego ComicCon in August.

There is only one man who can answer these questions, answer to
these charges, and sort out these issues.

His name is Stuart Levy.

And I'll make a point of reminding him about any, every, and
all of these questions and issues until they have been properly
addressed and dealt with.

I will do so without relenting for it is in your own best
interests to answer to them sooner rather than later.

Throughout 1996 and 1997, I promoted, hyped, interviewed, and
shared details regarding Mixx's foray into the uncharted waters of the
North American manga industry with optimism and praise on a continual
and regular basis. Even released an exclusive announcement or two.

If my prior efforts helped to raise awareness of your company
to the extent where even one person who otherwise wouldn't have known
about it or considered investing in Mixx took a chance on your
product, then I'll be damned if you're going to sit idly by and deny
them the answers they deserve to hear.

(And I'm speaking to Stu here, Andrew... I'm not holding you
guilty of anything except as an unfortunate victim.)

Furthermore, I myself am and continue to be a Mixx subscriber
and customer who has a long-term vested interest in your Pocket Manga
line amongst other things, and I think I owe it to myself to demand
some answers as well.

Each and every one of these issues will be raised continually.
Deal with them now or deal with them in a 'Fireside Chat' at a later
time.

But expect to deal with them... or they will forever hang over
your heads and haunt you with each signature on a boycott petition and
with each fleeting subscriber cancellation.

Answer to your loyal reader and subscriber base... or they will
answer for you with their wallets.

The choice is yours, Stuart.

===
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UIN#: 3724914 | Hana Yori Dango * Sailor Moon
| Rurouni Kenshin * Fushigi Yuugi

h_s...@hotmail.com

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In article <35EFE98A...@negaverse.org>,

Brad Lascelle <pa...@negaverse.org> wrote:
> This message is being reposted in its entirety from the Mixx
> WebBoard discussion area... where a number of issues have been heating
> up without receiving the attention and due care that they deserve.
>

^_^; I'd had always seen that 'board' area as another form of public
announcements for Mixx-zine... and not as much as a source of feedback
for Mixx readers/supporters.

> I encourage any and all of you with any kind of financial stake
> in Mixx's line of publications or products... particularly if you're a
> current subscriber... to appraise yourselves of all the issues laid
> out below and I invite you all to follow along with this thread in the
> 'Subscription Updates & Questions' section of the Mixx WebBoard (under
> the thread "Lets all change this heading") and on your respective
> newsgroups and mailing lists.
>
> =======================================================================
> Andrew Yi (an...@mixxonline.com) Writes:
>
> > Sorry, I'm kinda lost on this thread. What exactly happened here?
> > Why is everyone fighting? Let's all take a breather, and step back
> > from posting for a while. About your questions, I think a few I
> > answered in another thread, or maybe this one, I can't be sure with
> > the set up.
>
> It's okay, Andrew... the WebBoard interface is quite muddled
> and complex when it comes to tracking down information so don't worry
> yourself about it.
>
> As for the questions which have been tossed about repeatedly on
> the WebBoard without clear, concrete responses, I'll be more than
> happy to summarize them here for your convenience...
>
> 1) Why did Stu pull Sailor Moon from Mixxzine without warning his
> loyal reader and subscriber base of the change in advance?

One sign to say it all: $$$


>
> 2) Why did Stu lie to his loyal reader and subscriber base with the
> smokescreen regarding parental concerns about Sailor Moon's
> placement with more controversial titles in Mixxzine?
>

I'd see this as an attempt at partial justification of separating SM from
the rest of the Mixxzine...

> This is evident because MKR failed to make the transition to
> Smile! when it appeals to precisely the same demographic base as
> Sailor Moon... and has been further corroborated by other people
> with ties to Mixx.

But they forgot about MKR ^_^


>
> If this was a problem, there would have been efforts last year to
> seal Parasyte and Ice Blade or a split in the shoujo / shonen
> content would have been made at THAT time.
>
> 3) Why did Stu decide to branch out Mixx into two separate
> bi-monthly magazines after promising his loyal reader and
> subscriber base that Mixxzine would go monthly for over a year?

The question might be an entirely different one -- i.e., does the release
of the second magazine mean that there is a Mixx magazine for every month
of the year, regardless of whether it's Mixxzine or Smile?


>
> 4) Why did Stu cut back manga content in Mixxzine by 35% from Issue
> 1-2 to 2-1 without notifying his loyal reader and subscriber base
> in advance?

What? And give us a chance to complain?! ^_^;


>
> 5) Why is Stu shifting the focus of Mixxzine away from a
> manga-centric publication to a drastically different format which
> has a focus on editorial content, anime and game reviews,
> cultural trends, and other new areas without notifying or
> consulting with his loyal reader and subscriber base?

I suppose that he wants to jump into the markets of Animerica and Protoculture
Addict. It's ironic since Animerica (and by extension: Viz) is releasing
the Animerica Extra to deal with the increased demand for manga stories.


>
> This is evident because Mixx has recently brought aboard a team
> of writers including Charles McCarter... the Editor-In-Chief of
> EX Anime Online (www.ex.org).
>
> This is further evident because of the minimum price increase of
> 167% per page of translated manga since Issue 1-2 through Mixx's
> expanded format in the next two months, given current trends in
> Mixx page counts (refer to my response on August 25th as to how
> this figure was reached).
>
> 6) Why is Stu pursuing this broad-based approach with the Mixx
> product and trying to cater to so many new markets without
> expanding upon circulation and Mixx's current haphazard
> distribution method through Diamond?

Definitely a good question. And I'd like to see the answer!


>
> 7) Why is Stu compressing the size of the already low-resolution
> comics in Mixxzine down to the size of a typical page of Pocket
> Manga without giving advance notice to his loyal reader and
> subscriber base?

Again, why should he give us a chance to complain?


>
> 8) Why has Stu not made any assurances to his loyal reader and
> subscriber base as to the quality of what this compressed format
> will look like on the glossy Mixxzine finish... or made any
> assurances as to the page count of translated manga being notably
> larger than the 202 pages of Issues 1-1 and 1-2 (which had little
> advertising support), thus justifying the move as a justifiable
> and understandable cost-cutting measure?

I don't think that he -can- justify the move.


>
> 9) Why has Stu not allowed his loyal reader and subscriber base to
> transfer their Mixxzine subscriptions over to the new Sailor
> comic or to even subscribe to it on an independent basis or to
> even receive some kind of discount off the cover price when he
> knows they'll need to start picking up issues of the comic in
> order to follow along with the Sailor Moon storyline as it stands
> right now?

Because. There is -nothing- to prevent the 'loyal reader and subscriber'
from deciding to pull their subscription entirely. Loyalty is a two-way
street, Levy's continued abuse of this loyalty will mean that it will
eventually disappear.

>
> 10) Why has Stu only allowed his loyal reader and subscriber base to
> transfer their Mixxzine subscriptions over to Smile!... which has
> a completely different and unique Sailor Moon storyline running
> in it and supporting magazine content which has yet to be
> expanded upon?

What an <sarcasm>ingenious way </sarcasm> for Mixx to get a potential
customer base without telling them anything except that SM will be in
Smile @_@;

I would -not- be surprised to see Smile filled with advertisements targetted
at young teenage girls...


>
> 11) Why has Stu priced the Sailor Moon comics so high for his loyal
> reader and subscriber base that they'd be better off just
> investing in the cheaper Pocket Manga compilation... which is
> also a better quality product and saves the aggravation of
> missing an issue or tracking down five separate comics to get the
> same value?

The logic is: without a continued publication of the comic, there is
no 'material' for the PM. I.e., if the comic stops, eventually, the PM
stops since it is a compilation of the comics.


>
> 12) Why has Stu produced a dub adaptation of Kenji's Spring using
> only three rushed days of production time and recruiting the Mixx
> executive staff and myriad interns as voice actors?

He was demonstrating: Macek 101: how to ruin a perfectly good story with
shody effort.


>
> 13) What liberties will Stu take with his loyal reader and subscriber
> base when deciding upon Mixxified names for the SuperS
> translations of the Sailor Moon manga in Smile!? (Baby-Bun as the
> new name for Chibi-Usa / Rini already being understood.)

Baby-Bun ... Mini-Bun's... I s'pect that I'm reading about Cinnamon Buns
more than about Chibi-Usa... -_-;;

Liberties -- what Levy will take and get away with.


>
> 14) How will Stu go about informing the segment of his loyal reader
> and subscriber base that is not 'Net savvy about all of the
> relevant details pertaining to these issues and transitions which
> the majority of them are still presently wholly unaware?

He won't. Not until they get their subscriptions...and by then, it's
too late. After all, ignorance of the masses (of subscribers) means
that Levy's lil empire is secure for that extra moment.

>
> 15) What is Stu's position on the mass exodus of former Mixx
> employees from the company in recent weeks... most notably of
> which is former Mixx Editor-In-Chief and Co-Founder Ron Scovil?

I'm sure it's: <Stu:> I wish Ron the best of luck in his future....


>
> 16) What is Stu's position in the wake of the many numerous boycotts
> and petitions which have recently been established against his
> company in light of his many recent actions and decisions?

<Stu playing C-ko>: What boycotts? What petitions?

>
> 17) Why does Stu choose to pursue these issues through covert private
> E-Mails instead of addressing them publically to his loyal reader
> and subscriber base where his comments truly need to be heard?

Simple. It's harder to know who he's sent e-mail to than to search for
his public comments.


>
> 18) Why has Stu not made a point of countering or responding to any
> of these questions directly, publically, and honestly to his
> loyal reader and subscriber base... and has instead chosen to
> dodge and ignore each and every one of them with the sole gesture
> of tossing a bone out alluding to a 'Fireside Chat' with no
> specific date or time fixed to address all of these many issues?

Ahhhh... The true embodiment of the consummate politician... lead them
by their noses!


>
> 19) Why has Stu condoned the use of WebBoard plants such as Scott
> Adams to vent his frustrations and leak rumors about prospective
> titles Mixx might be considering for future acquisition and
> translation?

"...."

Meaning... even I, a poor student probably has more manga in my closet
than Mr. Levy has in his office ^_-


>
> It's quite likely that Stu has barely touched any of those
> Kodansha titles... although, feel free to inquire him about specific
> titles and storylines if you'd like that detail clarified when he
> returns from Japan.

Hmmmm... I suppose that all those titles are useful as dust collectors...
if nothing else.

Regards,

Helen :)


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On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 09:22:18 -0400, Brad Lascelle
<pa...@negaverse.org> wrote:

>This message is being reposted in its entirety from the Mixx
> WebBoard discussion area... where a number of issues have been heating
> up without receiving the attention and due care that they deserve.

Some how I'm not surprised. There seems to be a lot of that there.

> I encourage any and all of you with any kind of financial stake
> in Mixx's line of publications or products... particularly if you're a
> current subscriber...

Not even under consideration. Their current subscription policies for
Canadians are IMO impossible...

>to appraise yourselves of all the issues laid
> out below and I invite you all to follow along with this thread in the
> 'Subscription Updates & Questions' section of the Mixx WebBoard (under
> the thread "Lets all change this heading") and on your respective
> newsgroups and mailing lists.

Thank you for the information, Brad. I appreciate seeing it. However
I do not have the time to play find their web board and try and find
any information on it.

>=======================================================================

Snip

> 13) What liberties will Stu take with his loyal reader and subscriber
> base when deciding upon Mixxified names for the SuperS
> translations of the Sailor Moon manga in Smile!? (Baby-Bun as the
> new name for Chibi-Usa / Rini already being understood.)

"Baby-Bun"!!! *shakes head* That does it. We may not even bother to
get the pocket manga (if they ever even show up here, which is part of
the distributaion problem) if that's the way they're going to go.

I'll be happy getting the rest of the Japanese volumes, we only need
13 -18 now and reding translations.

Hopefully I'll be able to find the MKR volumes somewhere, and do the
same.

snip

> Although, I might also add why doesn't Stu feel public
> relations for his company is worth his time or money... as he's done
> little to help in that department himself and I'm sure he's paying you
> the bare minimum ($6 an hour according to California state law) or
> nothing at all to deal with people like myself and all of your other
> numerous tasks, Andrew.

I guess public relations aren't as important as ripping off our money
is...

snip

> They will continue to persist until they are dealt with in a
> mature, competent manner.

At this point, that looks like never, as I'm begining to have serious
doubts about maturity and competence at the head of Mixx.

snip

> Furthermore, I myself am and continue to be a Mixx subscriber
> and customer who has a long-term vested interest in your Pocket Manga
> line amongst other things, and I think I owe it to myself to demand
> some answers as well.

And I personally am a customer who has been driven away, will never be
a subscriber (unless there are some serious changes made, which I
don't expect to happen) and will take the opportunity to warn others
about my experiences. This will cost them more customers and
potential subscribers.

snip

> But expect to deal with them... or they will forever hang over
> your heads and haunt you with each signature on a boycott petition and
> with each fleeting subscriber cancellation.

A boycott petition? Sounds like a great idea to me. Perhaps I should
consider a "Why I will not buy Mixxzine" web page...

> Answer to your loyal reader and subscriber base... or they will
> answer for you with their wallets.

I already have.

Joan
--
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... because as we all know, a
Caffeinated Jetwolf is a Happy Jetwolf.

My entry in cryptic quotes.

Andy Hock

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h_s...@hotmail.com wrote:

> In article <35EFE98A...@negaverse.org>,
> Brad Lascelle <pa...@negaverse.org> wrote:
>
> > 13) What liberties will Stu take with his loyal reader and subscriber
> > base when deciding upon Mixxified names for the SuperS
> > translations of the Sailor Moon manga in Smile!? (Baby-Bun as the
> > new name for Chibi-Usa / Rini already being understood.)
>
> Baby-Bun ... Mini-Bun's... I s'pect that I'm reading about Cinnamon Buns
> more than about Chibi-Usa... -_-;;

Baby-bun?? Baby-bun???? This is too much! Even the
fandubber that wanted to call her "Bitzy" wasn't as bad
as this! Why can't we just leave poor Chibi Usa's name
alone? Or at least keep the DiC name "Rini".

Andy Hock

Thunder Empress Arshes Nei

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h_s...@hotmail.com wrote:

> > 12) Why has Stu produced a dub adaptation of Kenji's Spring using
> > only three rushed days of production time and recruiting the Mixx
> > executive staff and myriad interns as voice actors?
>
> He was demonstrating: Macek 101: how to ruin a perfectly good story with
> shody effort.
> >

Don't forget 12-a) Why did Stu argue and swear at fansubbers that he had the
rights to distribute Kenji's Spring when other reports say they only have the
rights to DUB it? Although people have different positions on fansubs, does it
justify lying to them?

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Let's nuke it from orbit

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Bravo on all the points...

>
> If my prior efforts helped to raise awareness of your company
> to the extent where even one person who otherwise wouldn't have known
> about it or considered investing in Mixx took a chance on your
> product, then I'll be damned if you're going to sit idly by and deny
> them the answers they deserve to hear.
>

Actually, I'd have to say I'm one of those people - I probably
wouldn't have known much at all about Mixx (its very hard to find
around me) for quite a while if it weren't for your previews and
messages about it - I picked it up from issue one till 2-1 because of
this. I was going to keep buying it, but have seriously reconsidered
now....


Adam

Tenchi Masaki

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On Fri, 04 Sep 1998 15:35:25 -0400 in alt.fan.sailor-moon, Andy Hock
<col...@erinet.com> grabbed some stone plates and carved them thusly:

>h_s...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> In article <35EFE98A...@negaverse.org>,
>> Brad Lascelle <pa...@negaverse.org> wrote:
>>
>> > 13) What liberties will Stu take with his loyal reader and subscriber
>> > base when deciding upon Mixxified names for the SuperS
>> > translations of the Sailor Moon manga in Smile!? (Baby-Bun as the
>> > new name for Chibi-Usa / Rini already being understood.)
>>
>> Baby-Bun ... Mini-Bun's... I s'pect that I'm reading about Cinnamon Buns
>> more than about Chibi-Usa... -_-;;
>

>Baby-bun?? Baby-bun???? This is too much! Even the
>fandubber that wanted to call her "Bitzy" wasn't as bad
>as this! Why can't we just leave poor Chibi Usa's name
>alone? Or at least keep the DiC name "Rini".

Yes, calling her "Baby-Bun" is fierce... even "Bitzy" isn't that bad ^_^;;
He must really LOATHE her, much more than even I do... somehow that
scares me... ^_^;;

> Andy Hock
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Aino Minako * Tsukino Usagi * Lina Inverse * Amelia Wil Tesla Sairune * Ryoko *
Washu * Lum * Shampoo * Hanasaki Momoko * Soryu Langley Asuka * Ayanami Rei *
Yohko * Romanova Nene * Asagiri Priss * Yuri (Dirty Pair) * Kanzaki Akari *
Respighi Anna * Skuld * Nuku Nuku * Kagome * Pai

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