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Bradley K. Sherman
May 24, 2013, 9:29:16 AM5/24/13
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$3 Trillion wasted:
|
| LONDON, May 23 (UPI) -- Forced confessions put "possibly
| hundreds" of people on death row in Iraq, Amnesty
| International reports.
| ...
| On Iraq, the report said torture and other forms of abuse
| were "common and widespread" in prisons controlled by the
| Iraqi government. Amnesty said prisoners were often
| subjected to electric shocks, sexual abuse and partial
| asphyxiation.
|
| "Torture was used to extract information from detainees and
| 'confessions' that could be used as evidence against them
| at trial," the report said.
| ...
<http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2013/05/23/Iraqi-justice-troubles-Amnesty-International/UPI-89141369327138/>
--bks
|
| LONDON, May 23 (UPI) -- Forced confessions put "possibly
| hundreds" of people on death row in Iraq, Amnesty
| International reports.
| ...
| On Iraq, the report said torture and other forms of abuse
| were "common and widespread" in prisons controlled by the
| Iraqi government. Amnesty said prisoners were often
| subjected to electric shocks, sexual abuse and partial
| asphyxiation.
|
| "Torture was used to extract information from detainees and
| 'confessions' that could be used as evidence against them
| at trial," the report said.
| ...
<http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2013/05/23/Iraqi-justice-troubles-Amnesty-International/UPI-89141369327138/>
--bks
Salty Stan
May 24, 2013, 10:11:38 AM5/24/13
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>
> --bks
Damn, let Obama take over, and the whole situation goes to pot.
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 24, 2013, 10:15:37 AM5/24/13
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>
> --bks
We warned you sissies about pulling out of Iraq too soon. But
nooooooo, your Messiah needed something else to brag about. Now he get
hundreds of Iraqi's tortured and murdered. But hey, what difference
does it make?
Bradley K. Sherman
May 24, 2013, 10:31:04 AM5/24/13
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Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E <burto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 24, 8:29�am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>> $3 Trillion wasted:
>> �|
>> �| LONDON, May 23 (UPI) -- Forced confessions put "possibly
>> �| hundreds" of people on death row in Iraq, Amnesty
>> �| International reports.
>> �| ...
>
>On May 24, 8:29�am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>> $3 Trillion wasted:
>> �|
>> �| LONDON, May 23 (UPI) -- Forced confessions put "possibly
>> �| hundreds" of people on death row in Iraq, Amnesty
>> �| International reports.
>> �| ...
>
>We warned you sissies about pulling out of Iraq too soon.
No you didn't. You said there were WMD there. Lies, lies, lies.
--bks
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Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 24, 2013, 3:04:28 PM5/24/13
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On May 24, 9:31 am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
skull but Wikipedia begs to differ:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
Saddam Hussein was internationally known for his use of chemical
weapons in the 1980s against Iranian and Kurdish civilians during and
after the Iran–Iraq War. It is also known that in the 1980s he pursued
an extensive biological weapons program and a nuclear weapons program,
though no nuclear bomb was built.
After the 1990-1991 Persian Gulf War, the United Nations located and
destroyed large quantities of Iraqi chemical weapons and related
equipment and materials throughout the early 1990s, with varying
degrees of Iraqi cooperation and obstruction.[1] In response to
diminishing Iraqi cooperation with UNSCOM, the United States called
for withdrawal of all UN and IAEA inspectors in 1998, resulting in
Operation Desert Fox. The United States and the UK asserted that
Saddam Hussein still possessed large hidden stockpiles of WMD in 2003,
and that he was clandestinely procuring and producing more.
Inspections by the UN to resolve the status of unresolved disarmament
questions restarted from November 2002 until March 2003,[2] under UN
Security Council Resolution 1441, which demanded Saddam give
"immediate, unconditional and active cooperation" with UN and IAEA
inspections, shortly before his country was attacked.[3]
But, go ahead. Keep parroting the DNC,Moveon.org talking points.
> Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On May 24, 8:29 am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
> >> $3 Trillion wasted:
> >> |
> >> | LONDON, May 23 (UPI) -- Forced confessions put "possibly
> >> | hundreds" of people on death row in Iraq, Amnesty
> >> | International reports.
> >> | ...
>
> >We warned you sissies about pulling out of Iraq too soon.
>
> No you didn't. You said there were WMD there. Lies, lies, lies.
>
> --bks
I know this will never penetrate your weapons grade kevlar/titanium
>
> >On May 24, 8:29 am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
> >> $3 Trillion wasted:
> >> |
> >> | LONDON, May 23 (UPI) -- Forced confessions put "possibly
> >> | hundreds" of people on death row in Iraq, Amnesty
> >> | International reports.
> >> | ...
>
> >We warned you sissies about pulling out of Iraq too soon.
>
> No you didn't. You said there were WMD there. Lies, lies, lies.
>
> --bks
skull but Wikipedia begs to differ:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
Saddam Hussein was internationally known for his use of chemical
weapons in the 1980s against Iranian and Kurdish civilians during and
after the Iran–Iraq War. It is also known that in the 1980s he pursued
an extensive biological weapons program and a nuclear weapons program,
though no nuclear bomb was built.
After the 1990-1991 Persian Gulf War, the United Nations located and
destroyed large quantities of Iraqi chemical weapons and related
equipment and materials throughout the early 1990s, with varying
degrees of Iraqi cooperation and obstruction.[1] In response to
diminishing Iraqi cooperation with UNSCOM, the United States called
for withdrawal of all UN and IAEA inspectors in 1998, resulting in
Operation Desert Fox. The United States and the UK asserted that
Saddam Hussein still possessed large hidden stockpiles of WMD in 2003,
and that he was clandestinely procuring and producing more.
Inspections by the UN to resolve the status of unresolved disarmament
questions restarted from November 2002 until March 2003,[2] under UN
Security Council Resolution 1441, which demanded Saddam give
"immediate, unconditional and active cooperation" with UN and IAEA
inspections, shortly before his country was attacked.[3]
But, go ahead. Keep parroting the DNC,Moveon.org talking points.
Sir Ray
May 24, 2013, 3:33:06 PM5/24/13
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On May 24, 3:04 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
Interesting that the developmentally disabled Phantom stopped citing
the Wiki entry at that point, before these lines:
"During the lead-up to war in March 2003, United Nations weapons
inspector Hans Blix had found no stockpiles of WMD and had made
significant progress toward resolving open issues of disarmament
noting "proactive" but not always the "immediate" Iraqi cooperation as
called for by UN Security Council Resolution 1441. He concluded that
it would take “but months” to resolve the key remaining disarmament
tasks.[4] "
-- Or this, further on down:
"On May 30, 2003, The U.S. Department of Defense briefed the media
that it was ready to formally begin the work of the Iraq Survey Group
(ISG), a fact finding mission from the coalition of the Iraq
occupation into the WMD programs developed by Iraq, taking over from
the British-American 75th Exploitation Task Force.
On October 6, 2004, the head of the Iraq Survey Group (ISG), Charles
Duelfer, announced to the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee that
the group found no evidence that Iraq under Saddam Hussein had
produced and stockpiled any weapons of mass destruction since 1991,
when UN sanctions were imposed.[92]"
But go ahead Phantom, keep parroting long-debunked TeaPublican talking
points.
the Wiki entry at that point, before these lines:
"During the lead-up to war in March 2003, United Nations weapons
inspector Hans Blix had found no stockpiles of WMD and had made
significant progress toward resolving open issues of disarmament
noting "proactive" but not always the "immediate" Iraqi cooperation as
called for by UN Security Council Resolution 1441. He concluded that
it would take “but months” to resolve the key remaining disarmament
tasks.[4] "
-- Or this, further on down:
"On May 30, 2003, The U.S. Department of Defense briefed the media
that it was ready to formally begin the work of the Iraq Survey Group
(ISG), a fact finding mission from the coalition of the Iraq
occupation into the WMD programs developed by Iraq, taking over from
the British-American 75th Exploitation Task Force.
On October 6, 2004, the head of the Iraq Survey Group (ISG), Charles
Duelfer, announced to the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee that
the group found no evidence that Iraq under Saddam Hussein had
produced and stockpiled any weapons of mass destruction since 1991,
when UN sanctions were imposed.[92]"
But go ahead Phantom, keep parroting long-debunked TeaPublican talking
points.
Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 24, 2013, 3:56:14 PM5/24/13
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Hanz Blix?? LMFAO !! Blix couldn't find his ass with both hands and a
ten man search party. But hey, that happened a long time ago. Besides,
Sir Ray
May 24, 2013, 4:43:13 PM5/24/13
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On May 24, 3:56 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"
otherwise you would have noted this in my post:
sure your group home aides find your outbursts of cackling amusing,
Phantom.
-- Phantom, a drooling, obtuse, lying idiot; he's a perfect poster
child for today's TeaPublican wingnuts.
<burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hanz Blix?? LMFAO !! Blix couldn't find his ass with both hands and a
> ten man search party.
-- Too bad for you, Phantom, that you're really mentally handicapped,
> Hanz Blix?? LMFAO !! Blix couldn't find his ass with both hands and a
> ten man search party.
otherwise you would have noted this in my post:
"On October 6, 2004, the head of the Iraq Survey Group (ISG), Charles
Duelfer, announced to the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee that
the group found no evidence that Iraq under Saddam Hussein had
produced and stockpiled any weapons of mass destruction since 1991"
-- LMFAO, Phantom? Note that Charles Duelfer is not Hanz Blix, but I'm
Duelfer, announced to the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee that
the group found no evidence that Iraq under Saddam Hussein had
produced and stockpiled any weapons of mass destruction since 1991"
sure your group home aides find your outbursts of cackling amusing,
Phantom.
-- Phantom, a drooling, obtuse, lying idiot; he's a perfect poster
child for today's TeaPublican wingnuts.
Bradley K. Sherman
May 24, 2013, 4:52:48 PM5/24/13
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<Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs, @7/11.nig> wrote:
>On Fri, 24 May 2013 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC), b...@panix.com (Bradley K.
> ...
Is that why Bush lied to the U.S. public, promising to go to
the UN for a vote on the invasion, but never doing so?
Your attempt at revisionism is charming. The truth is
that Iraq is much worse now than it was under Saddam. For
one thing *it is now an ally of Iran*. Explain that one
broccoli-breath.
--bks
>On Fri, 24 May 2013 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC), b...@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>>Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E <burto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>On May 24, 8:29�am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>>>> $3 Trillion wasted:
>>>> �|
>>>> �| LONDON, May 23 (UPI) -- Forced confessions put "possibly
>>>> �| hundreds" of people on death row in Iraq, Amnesty
>>>> �| International reports.
>>>> �| ...
>>>
>>>We warned you sissies about pulling out of Iraq too soon.
>>
>>No you didn't. You said there were WMD there. Lies, lies, lies.
>
>Saddamn was violating 17 UNSC resolutions when 9/11 happened. Mohammed
>
>>Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E <burto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>On May 24, 8:29�am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>>>> $3 Trillion wasted:
>>>> �|
>>>> �| LONDON, May 23 (UPI) -- Forced confessions put "possibly
>>>> �| hundreds" of people on death row in Iraq, Amnesty
>>>> �| International reports.
>>>> �| ...
>>>
>>>We warned you sissies about pulling out of Iraq too soon.
>>
>>No you didn't. You said there were WMD there. Lies, lies, lies.
>
> ...
Is that why Bush lied to the U.S. public, promising to go to
the UN for a vote on the invasion, but never doing so?
Your attempt at revisionism is charming. The truth is
that Iraq is much worse now than it was under Saddam. For
one thing *it is now an ally of Iran*. Explain that one
broccoli-breath.
--bks
Juris Diction
May 24, 2013, 5:28:10 PM5/24/13
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In article <knnpvc$lgv$1...@panix2.panix.com>,
In balance, the Bush administration was the most destructive, corrupt
administration of all time.
administration of all time.
Harold Burton
May 24, 2013, 5:37:32 PM5/24/13
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few more Americans, all without due process.
snicker
Harold Burton
May 24, 2013, 5:38:01 PM5/24/13
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Harold Burton
May 24, 2013, 5:39:12 PM5/24/13
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In article <knojuv$s6$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
Cite?
b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
> <Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs, @7/11.nig> wrote:
> >On Fri, 24 May 2013 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC), b...@panix.com (Bradley K.
> >Sherman) wrote:
> >
> >>Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E <burto...@gmail.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>>On May 24, 8:29�am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
> >>>> $3 Trillion wasted:
> >>>> �|
> >>>> �| LONDON, May 23 (UPI) -- Forced confessions put "possibly
> >>>> �| hundreds" of people on death row in Iraq, Amnesty
> >>>> �| International reports.
> >>>> �| ...
> >>>
> >>>We warned you sissies about pulling out of Iraq too soon.
> >>
> >>No you didn't. You said there were WMD there. Lies, lies, lies.
> >
> >Saddamn was violating 17 UNSC resolutions when 9/11 happened. Mohammed
> > ...
>
> Is that why Bush lied to the U.S. public, promising to go to
> the UN for a vote on the invasion . . .
> <Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs, @7/11.nig> wrote:
> >On Fri, 24 May 2013 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC), b...@panix.com (Bradley K.
> >Sherman) wrote:
> >
> >>Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E <burto...@gmail.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>>On May 24, 8:29�am, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
> >>>> $3 Trillion wasted:
> >>>> �|
> >>>> �| LONDON, May 23 (UPI) -- Forced confessions put "possibly
> >>>> �| hundreds" of people on death row in Iraq, Amnesty
> >>>> �| International reports.
> >>>> �| ...
> >>>
> >>>We warned you sissies about pulling out of Iraq too soon.
> >>
> >>No you didn't. You said there were WMD there. Lies, lies, lies.
> >
> >Saddamn was violating 17 UNSC resolutions when 9/11 happened. Mohammed
> > ...
>
> Is that why Bush lied to the U.S. public, promising to go to
Cite?
Bradley K. Sherman
May 24, 2013, 5:47:29 PM5/24/13
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Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote:
> b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>> <Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs, @7/11.nig> wrote:
>> >On Fri, 24 May 2013 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC), b...@panix.com (Bradley K.
> b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>> <Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs, @7/11.nig> wrote:
>> >On Fri, 24 May 2013 14:31:04 +0000 (UTC), b...@panix.com (Bradley K.
>> >>Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E <burto...@gmail.com>
>> >>>> 锟絴
>> >>>> 锟絴 LONDON, May 23 (UPI) -- Forced confessions put "possibly
>> >>>> 锟絴 hundreds" of people on death row in Iraq, Amnesty
>> >>>> 锟絴 International reports.
>> >>>
>> >>>We warned you sissies about pulling out of Iraq too soon.
>> >>
>> >>No you didn't. You said there were WMD there. Lies, lies, lies.
>> >
>> >Saddamn was violating 17 UNSC resolutions when 9/11 happened. Mohammed
>> > ...
>>
>> Is that why Bush lied to the U.S. public, promising to go to
>> the UN for a vote on the invasion . . .
>
>Cite?
|
| QUESTION: Thank you, Mr. President.
>> >>>We warned you sissies about pulling out of Iraq too soon.
>> >>
>> >>No you didn't. You said there were WMD there. Lies, lies, lies.
>> >
>> >Saddamn was violating 17 UNSC resolutions when 9/11 happened. Mohammed
>> > ...
>>
>> Is that why Bush lied to the U.S. public, promising to go to
>> the UN for a vote on the invasion . . .
>
>Cite?
|
|
| As you said, the Security Council faces a vote next week on
| a resolution implicitly authorizing an attack on Iraq. Will
| you call for a vote on that resolution, even if you aren't
| sure you have the votes?
|
| BUSH: Well, first, I don't think -- it basically says that
| he is in defiance of 1441. That's what the resolution says.
|
| And it's hard to believe anybody saying he isn't in
| defiance of 1441 because 1441 said he must disarm.
|
| And yes, we'll call for a vote.
|
| QUESTION: No matter what?
|
| BUSH: No matter what the whip count is, we're calling for
| the vote. We want to see people stand up and say what their
| opinion is about Saddam Hussein and the utility of the
| United Nations Security Council.
|
<http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/06/bush.speech.transcript/>
--bks
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Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E
May 24, 2013, 10:22:23 PM5/24/13
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On May 24, 4:28 pm, Juris Diction <i...@theditch.com> wrote:
> In article <knnpvc$lg...@panix2.panix.com>,
> In article <knnpvc$lg...@panix2.panix.com>,
> b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > $3 Trillion wasted:
> > |
> > | LONDON, May 23 (UPI) -- Forced confessions put "possibly
> > | hundreds" of people on death row in Iraq, Amnesty
> > | International reports.
> > | ...
> > | On Iraq, the report said torture and other forms of abuse
> > | were "common and widespread" in prisons controlled by the
> > | Iraqi government. Amnesty said prisoners were often
> > | subjected to electric shocks, sexual abuse and partial
> > | asphyxiation.
> > |
> > | "Torture was used to extract information from detainees and
> > | 'confessions' that could be used as evidence against them
> > | at trial," the report said.
> > | ...
> > <http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2013/05/23/Iraqi-justice-troubles...
>
>
>
>
>
> > $3 Trillion wasted:
> > |
> > | LONDON, May 23 (UPI) -- Forced confessions put "possibly
> > | hundreds" of people on death row in Iraq, Amnesty
> > | International reports.
> > | ...
> > | On Iraq, the report said torture and other forms of abuse
> > | were "common and widespread" in prisons controlled by the
> > | Iraqi government. Amnesty said prisoners were often
> > | subjected to electric shocks, sexual abuse and partial
> > | asphyxiation.
> > |
> > | "Torture was used to extract information from detainees and
> > | 'confessions' that could be used as evidence against them
> > | at trial," the report said.
> > | ...
> > -International/UPI-89141369327138/>
>
> > --bks
>
> In balance, the Bush administration was the most destructive, corrupt
> administration of all time.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > --bks
>
> In balance, the Bush administration was the most destructive, corrupt
>
> - Show quoted text -
Surely you can provide PROOF of your claim.
> - Show quoted text -
Mr. B1ack
May 24, 2013, 10:47:01 PM5/24/13
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Bush's Iraq ??? Sorry, someone else bought that franchise
about five years ago. Kind of a Kenyan-sounding name ....
about five years ago. Kind of a Kenyan-sounding name ....
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Ian B MacLure
May 25, 2013, 1:47:17 AM5/25/13
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Vietnam became Nixon's war as soon as he took office.
By that logic Soetaro owns the whole mess and whatever
happens as a result of calling off active prosecution
of the fight against Islam.
Lurch was unable to find anyone to surrender to so
Miiiister Soetaro is calling off the struggle.
And if he can manage it we'll find ourselves stuck with
his jihadi ass bandit buddies from Gitmo living in our
midst.
IBM
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