BRIEF EVIDENCE OF NUCLEAR BOMBS USED AT WTC ON 9/11
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This site deals primarily with the mechanism of demolition of the WTC.
See "China Syndrome at the WTC" for articles pertaining to the aftermath of
the WTC nuclear demolition and the extreme heat phenomena seen at "Ground
Zero".
posted by spooked @ 8:21 AM
Friday, August 24, 2007
Brief Evidence of Nuclear bombs used at the WTC on 9/11/01
From the Anonymous Physicist, extracted from here.
-- the proven existence of mini-nukes and micro-nukes
-- massive outward explosions as seen in videos of the towers' "collapses"
-- the vaporization of a large steel press in the WTC basement
-- the wrinkling into "foil" of a steel/concrete door
-- the spherical blast wave destruction
-- the "nuclear meteorite" (a chunk of WTC debris with 4 floors fused
together)
-- the feeling of heat without fire of numerous witnesses
-- the burned or hanging skin (Felipe David), without fire, like so many
Hiroshima victims
-- the responders' teeth later falling out (Tartaglia), like numerous
American Army A-Bomb test veterans/victims
-- the missing, presumably vaporized, building contents
-- the missing, presumably vaporized 1157 people, unaccounted for at Ground
Zero
-- the massive evidence of the China Syndrome of resultant nuclear reacting
fragments causing the very high heat and molten steel witnessed (and
photographed) by so many firefighter and responders at least six months
after 9/11
-- the clothing discarding from rescue workers
-- the decontamination procedures of rescue workers
-- EMT Ondrovic's account of Electromagnetic Pulse and instantaneous
resultant car fire, and the door exploding into her as WTC 5,6, were being
exploded from within, near her (explained here)
-- the micro- or nano-fine particle debris/dust size
-- much more, all indicate the federal regime set off numerous mini-nuclear
bombs in the WTC on 9/11.
The witnesses for nukes that my articles have cited, included:
-- numerous WTC workers, including Felipe David,
-- numerous firefighters, including Bronx firefighter Joe O'Toole
-- EMT worker Patricia Ondrovic
-- numerous first responders, including Sgt. Matthew Tartaglia
-- WTC stationary engineer Pecoraro
-- fire engineering professor Dr. Barnett
-- top British and American Structural Engineers including Keith Eaton, PhD
who were shown "secret" molten steel photos denied to the rest of us
-- Leslie E. Robertson, {American] Structural Engineer (and partial designer
of WTC)
-- Kenneth Holden NYC Commissioner
-- Thomas von Essen, NYC Fire Commissioner
-- policeman: many (or the vast majority of the 503 who were found)
-- other on-scene witnesses have-- for the moment-likely have been silenced,
as detailed herein-- which is witness tampering, and worse.
Scientific data have also been cited, including -
-- AVIRIS,
-- LIDAR,
-- seismic readings before "collapse",
-- Tritium finding (UCAL/Berkeley, and subsequent Tahil study)
-- the now exploding number of "rare" CANCERS among responders, including
thyroid, leukemia, and lymph cancer-all common among radiation victims
posted by spooked @ 7:48 AM
More Evidence & Testimony Indicating Nuclear Blasts, Nuclear Radiation, &
China Syndrome at the WTC
By The Anonymous Physicist
Sgt. Matthew Tartaglia, a WTC responder, rescue worker, counselor, and FEMA
consultant has made many remarkable statements related to the nuking of the
WTC, and its China Syndrome aftermath.
Tartaglia, said he believes "tactical nukes" took down the towers, and was
responsible for the high temperatures weeks and months later (but does not
know of the existence of the China Syndrome.) His statements include these:
".There were only certain parts of the site that you could not legally leave
without going through decontamination..They would tackle you and take your
camera away. I watched people be tackled." Most responders couldn't go "down
in the garages.The rescue people - when our clothes got so contaminated, we
were told not to bring our clothes off that site. Don't wear anything on the
site you're not prepared to leave there because it's contaminated." Note
that "discarding clothing", and "going through decontamination" are standard
nuclear industry methods of dealing with radiation-exposed individuals. I do
not know if other industries necessitate the use of these methods as well.
In 2005, Sgt. Tartaglia said, "My teeth are falling out." Like hanging skin
resulting from a nuclear bomb, teeth falling out is a common symptom, months
or years later, from nuclear radiation exposure. (Other factors can also
possibly cause this, but are less likely.) Read about this Army veteran sent
to Hiroshima, just days after it was nuked, to bulldoze roads. This was
apparently much too soon to send Americans in to Hiroshima, but the PTB
apparently cared as much about Americans, as they did about the Japanese
women and children who were nuked. I note that after the July 16, 1945
Trinity "A-Bomb" test, Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer and General Leslie Groves
did not return to Ground Zero until five weeks later on Sept 11, 1945. Yes,
there is 9/11 again. So man did not walk again on the first alleged Ground
Zero which resulted from the "Manhattan Project" until 9/11/45. Also read
here about 3 veterans of atomic bomb tests in Nevada in the 1950's who had
their teeth fall out within a few years of their radiation exposure. [To
quickly find the 3 veterans cited, search on "teeth."] That article also
indicates that the gov't lied to them as to the amount of radiation they had
received. It is excerpted from the book, "They Never Knew: The Victims of
Atomic Testing", [not read here] by Glenn Alan Cheney. See also "The
Plutonium Files" by Welsome, and the two books on the "Making of the A-Bomb",
and the H-Bomb, "Dark Sun", both by Rhodes--all three read here.
But please read this (portions of the book, They Never Knew) in its
entirety. It includes the following remarkable quote that may be very
relevant to 9/11 research. A whistleblower came forward decades later about
the actual radiation exposure Army personnel were subjected to. "In 1982, a
former Army medic, Van R. Brandon, admitted that he had been ordered to keep
two sets of books. "One set was to show that no one received an exposure
above the approved dosimeter reading," he said. "The other set of books was
to show what the actual reading was. That set of books was brought in a
locked briefcase attached to [an officer]'s wrist by a set of handcuffs
every morning." Army personnel were denied medical benefits and disability
because the regime publicly used the "cooked" book. Do you think this same
govt has gotten more or less evil, corrupt, and duplicitous, in the ensuing
decades--and in a matter that relates to possibly irradiating tens of
thousands of WTC workers, responders, and near-by residents.
The statements made by Mike Pecoraro, a WTC1 stationary engineer, and 9/11
survivor, are also remarkable. Pecoraro first knew something was wrong after
observing flickering lights (EMP?), and then he ascended to the sub-basement
C level, from below. He says, "There was nothing there but rubble, we're
talking about a 50 ton hydraulic press gone!" Pecoraro and a co-worker "made
their way to the parking garage, but found that it, too, was gone". As they
ascended to the B Level, one floor above, they "were astonished to see a
steel and concrete fire door that weighed about 300 pounds, wrinkled up like
a piece of aluminum foil" and lying on the floor. Now I assert that this too
is a likely sign that a nuclear bomb went off. Perhaps only the
multi-million degree temperature at the hypocenter, or neutron bombardment,
is capable of doing that to that heavy steel door. The article continues:
""They got us again,"" Mike told his co-worker, referring to the terrorist
attack at the center in 1993. Having been through that bombing, Mike
recalled seeing similar things happen to the building's structure." This
last statement from Pecoraro, I assert may be corroboration of nuclear
engineer/geologist Phil Schneider's statement that his inspection of the
1993 WTC explosion damage revealed to him that it was a nuclear blast, that
may have gone awry, that is, was insufficient. (See my previous articles at
wtcdemolition.blogspot.com.) Pecoraro states that as WTC2 "collapsed,"
"there was a wind that came through the revolving doors that blew me [in the
WTC1 lobby area] 100 feet to the far wall" Was this a nuclear pressure
blast? You've probably seen the videos of A-bomb test sites, and resultant
winds blowing down model houses, and heat causing fires. Like this and this.
More evidence of the likely nuking of the WTC, and China Syndrome aftermath,
comes from no less than CNN's Larry King Show. This show aired on 10/6/01,
and was taped at the WTC, and a nearby burn unit, in the days prior to the
air-date. The transcript is here.
Regarding the likely China Syndrome of high heat three weeks later, Thomas
Von Essen, NYC Fire Commissioner, says, at the WTC, ".it's so hot, it's a
really hot fire. The steel has been hot for three weeks now. Tremendous heat
below, you know. It's -- the fire is not out down below." From my earlier
articles, you know that this went on for at least six months after 9/11.
At the Weill Burn Center at the Cornell Medical Hospital, Larry King
interviews two women who received burns-without any fire--while trying to
flee WTC1.
King: "So, did you know you were on fire, in a sense?"
Yang: "No, I wasn't on fire, I think it was from the heat."
Mary Jo: "That's what we were told, it was the heat."
So like Felipe David, like the Hiroshima survivors, these two women have no
clue as to why their skin was burned. And who told them "it was from the
heat"? And if it was the doctors, who told them to say this to the patients?
Note that King says ".fire in a sense." I assert that that sense is not fire
per se, but bombardment by radiation (thermal rays, gamma rays, neutrons)
that can cause heat at the skin, and damage the skin--if the flux is large
enough (relevant parameters include distance, shielding, intensity and type
of radiation).
King also interviews burn victim Brian Reeves, a security guard starting his
rounds in the lobby of one of the towers. Reeves says: "I don't know when I
got burned, but I just know when it knocked me over, there was -- there was
something, the windows blew out. And when the windows blew out, I was on the
ground, and like I said, there was a gust of wind. And when I opened my
eyes, I seen a bright orange light." Reeves, feeling heat on his back, takes
his jacket off and falls on the ground while fleeing. There is the issue of
whether his jacket is on fire or not. [Months later, the media would morph
the "bright orange light" into "fireball."] We must ask, did Reeves see the
flash of, and receive the radiation, and air pressure blast from, a
mini-nuke? Like the Hiroshima victims, he knows there had to be "something"
but he/they didn't see what burned him/them. In this video, months after
9/11, Reeves then says "the fire was this close to my face" (and holds his
hand near his face). He did not say any such thing 2-3 weeks after 9/11,
when interviewed by King.
Getting back to the King show, Dr. Roger Yurt of the Weill Burn Center says,
"[Reeve's] worst burns were on his back, some burns up on his head. Burns on
your arms also." My possible interpretation is the following. Likely his
jacket was not on fire (note the burns on his head), and the jacket likely
shielded him from receiving even more radiation! The source of which was
apparently behind him, as his burns were mostly on his back, but also on his
head. But if the flux of radiation is high enough, a person and/or their
clothes will catch fire from the radiation. Many Hiroshima victims were
immediately killed and left in a charred state. The "bright orange flash" he
"saw" may well have been a flux of radiation onto his retina. This kind of
thing is again known from Army veterans of the nuclear blasts in Nevada in
the 1950's. In the worst cases, numerous Army personnel were forced to be,
in ditches, only a football field away from an atomic bomb going off!
But when Brian tells his story months later, the reporter adds "fireball"
several times in her telling the story. Even the direction of the alleged
fireball is cleverly, and falsely, inserted: ". a fireball that roared down
the elevator shaft." In actuality, from numerous lobby, and sub-basement
witnesses, a non-fireball, a likely nuclear detonation, occurred below the
lobby, and its effects traveled UP a few floors-and not down some 80-90
floors from the likely conventional explosion above. In any case, Reeves did
not observe what may, or may not, have been traversing the elevator shaft.
It appears that in the telling of the 9/11 survivors' accounts, the MSM, and
the 911 pseudo-truth media, are doing everything they can to add "fire" and
"fireball" to the later retelling of numerous survivors' tales. And these
survivors, who did not report "fire" initially, and not knowing about such
things as radiation-induced burns-without any fire-may later start including
this in their own accounts, after doctors, or reporters, or hidden (or not
so hidden) handlers either keep repeating the "fire" and "fireball" memes to
them; or perhaps in some cases threatening/rewarding the survivors to start
telling it the way their handlers demand. Never forget how FBI, or secret
service agents, both on the scene in Dallas and later during depositions,
threatened eyewitnesses to President Kennedy's assassination, if they either
said they clearly saw the Secret Service driver do it, or that there also
were shots from the grassy knoll. Experts in eyewitness testimony tell us
that the most accurate account is the closest in time to the event.
Remember how sub-basement, 9/11 burn victim Felipe David's own accounting
never mentions "fire" or "fireball," but his alleged rescuer, William
Rodriquez added fire or fireball to his accounting of David's experiences.
You will have to be the judge after reading survivors' accounts shortly
after the event, and then months later after media/(govt?) interviews. This
is a crucial point in the likely tampering of witnesses to a heinous crime.
It is particularly odious as this may be ongoing from deep-cover intel
assets in the major, AND internet "truth", media. But if the
government/media had nothing to fear, or cover-up, why do they have to
change so many burn victims' testimonies? Likewise they are frequently
inserting "plane hits" into statements, when the witness couldn't possibly
have seen that, even if the plane hits were real, instead of CGI.
I believe we are only scratching the surface regarding evidence of the use
of mini-nukes on 9/11. Many fire and police witnesses fear losing their
jobs, or their pensions. Beginning a month after 9/11, NYC Fire Commissioner
von Essen's office took depositions of 503 fire personnel, port authority
police and EMT first responders. The report is 12,000 pages long and rarely
read [and not read here]. It was deliberately excluded from the 911
Commission, and NIST, reports (scroll down at link). Could they be hiding
evidence, not of the widely known explosions/controlled demolition, but
specifically of the nuking of the towers and 3000 people? After von Essen's
503 witness interviews, former CIA director Robert Woolsey, was inserted
into this in 2002, as the NYC Fire Department's "Anti-terrorism Consultant."
(It's interesting that Wikipedia omits this job in his bio.) He issued a gag
order, under threat of job loss and worse, down the ranks, under the guise
of "anti-terrorism." This report is the one that includes EMT, Patricia
Ondrovic' [See my articles on her here] heavily redacted, but remarkable
interview. Recall my analysis demonstrated she witnessed Electromagnetic
Pulse from a nuclear bomb causing flickering lights and making cars catch
fire, for no apparent reason ("toasted cars"), right near her, and also jets
shooting down other jets in the sky over the Hudson. Was Woolsey in charge
of the redacting, of her, and other, testimony? I make the assertion that
the very purpose of interviewing these 503 9/11 witnesses and responders was
to find out who had witnessed evidence of the nuking of the WTC, and to then
threaten, and silence them! Perhaps too many to kill, so first try to
silence them! Here are the full 503 interviews. It would be good if some
real 911 researcher could read them all or search for when portions are
redacted. Note my scanning them indicates that numerous witnesses report
"explosions;" this was not reason enough for redaction!
There is other eyewitness (or should I say skinwitness) evidence, I believe
of the heat, and radiation, wave which emanates outwards from a nuclear
blast from numerous people who happened to be in the vicinity of the towers.
This article states that "John Axisa, who was getting off a commuter train
to the World Trade Center, .[after the alleged first plane hit]. Then there
was a second explosion, and he felt heat on the back of [his] neck." Note
the timing of the "second" explosion he heard--nothing from which was seen
exiting the building--and yet he felt the heat at that exact time! This
again could only be from a nuke, I assert. (The DEW hangout theorists always
say their alleged DEW is cold.) Also at a 911 forum, a forum administrator
named Quest noted that, "I have an acquaintance who was a NYC cop on 9/11
when the second tower came down. He was 3 blocks away and told me there was
"incredible heat" during the "collapse"." Heat indeed is the thing that
would be felt furthest out from a nuclear blast. Read this account of
physicist, Dr. Phillip Morrison 10 miles from the Trinity nuclear test site.
He said, "Suddenly, not only was there a bright light, but where we were, 10
miles away, there was the heat of the sun on our faces." [This was before
the Sun came up.] So we see the similarity of statements, regarding heat
during a nuclear blast, made by the Trinity witness, John Axisa, Quest's
policeman, Felipe David, and the three burn victims interviewed by Larry
King. I have written that the nukes used on 9/11 were 1/100th to 1/1000th
(each) of the intensity of the Trinity blast (with several per tower used,
and only one per smaller WTC buildings) and we also have some shielding by
the building. So the distance that radiation would be able to propagate
would be vastly less than the 10 miles felt by Dr. Morrison (noted above),
where the test was in the open air. Those in the towers, and nearby, would
indeed be bombarded by the (unseen) radiation from a mini-nuke. Given these
ideas from this physicist, who has taught physics at several universities,
can Quest please further interview his cop friend, and get back to us here
at comments, or via email to Spooked?
There has been at least one study published of WTC responders' medical
problems treated on scene, from 9/14/01 to 11/20/1, at the WTC. This was
published in May-June, 2005, of "Prehospital and Disaster Medicine," and was
authored by: K.R. Peritt, W.L. Boal, and "The Helix Group, Inc." This third
"author" listed is a media corporation. (I did not know that corporations,
per se, could now be authors?) This study related to a 10 week period
whereby a Federal govt agency, the "United States Public Health Service
(USPHS), deployed Disaster Medical Assistance Teams (DMATs) and the
Commissioned Corps to provide on-site, primary medical care to anyone who
presented." The authors conclusion admits, the "USPHS visits probably were
skewed to milder complaints when compared to analyses of employer medical
department reports or hospital cases." This appears to mean that the more
serious cases went straight to the hospital. There were 9,349 on-site
patient visits, which included some surrounding residents. There were 30
cases of nausea and vomiting. Let us look at skin conditions reported. There
were 253 1st or 2nd degree burns, of which 107 (42%) were said to be related
to equipment use. There is no word on what caused the other 58% of these
burns. In addition, there are 132 cases of "other" skin problems reported.
There is not a single case of third degree burns (the most serious), and no
comment on this lack! Were there people with more serious burns that went
straight to the hospital, and thus are not counted? There are some curious
statistics: "Other injury or illness: 696 cases," and "Not classifiable as
an injury or illness: 920 cases." That's quite a lot of cases that are
either "other" or "not classifiable," about 17%. Why such a high percentage?
They're not "psychological" because they reported 78 cases of this. Is any
medical condition being covered up? Did they test for radiation which is not
mentioned? And what caused the 146 cases of burns that were not due to
equipment handling? And how many people had third degree burns among the
responders? Or is this classified information, related to what really was
happening at the WTC, even after its demolition? This study is very
troubling, and looks very "doctored."
In conclusion now, this article, and my previous articles archived at
wtcdemolition.blogspot.com and wtc-ChinaSyndrome.blogspot.com indicate the
following. The proven existence of mini-nukes and micro-nukes , the massive
outward explosions seen, the vaporization of a steel press, the wrinkling
into "foil" of a steel door, spherical blast wave destruction, the "nuclear
meteorite,[parts of 4 storeys fused together at extreme temp.,]" the feeling
of heat without fire of numerous witnesses, the burned or hanging
skin--without fire, the responders' teeth later falling out, the vaporized
building contents, the 1157 vaporized people, the massive evidence of the
China Syndrome of resultant nuclear reacting fragments causing the very high
heat and molten steel witnessed by many at least six months after 9/11, and
photographed, the clothing discarding, and decontamination procedures, my
detailed explanation of Ondrovic' account of Electromagnetic Pulse and
resultant car fire, and the door exploding into her as WTC 5, 6, were being
exploded from within, near her, the micro- or nano-fine particle size, and
much more, all indicate the federal regime set off numerous mini-nuclear
bombs in the WTC on 9/11. The witnesses that my articles have cited,
included numerous WTC workers, numerous firefighters, EMT worker,
responders, stationary engineer, fire engineering professor, top British and
American Structural Engineers who have been shown "secret" photos denied to
the rest of us, NYC Commissioner, NYC Fire Commissioner, policeman, and
others. Many (or the vast majority of the 503 who were found) other on-scene
witnesses have-for the moment-likely been silenced, as detailed herein-which
is witness tampering, and worse. Scientific data have also been cited,
including -AVIRIS, LIDAR, seismic readings before "collapse", Tritium
finding (UCAL/Berkeley, and subsequent Tahil study), and the now exploding
number of "rare" cancers among responders, including thyroid, leukemia, and
lymph cancer-all common among radiation victims. Other data, I have asserted
has been altered, or is totally hidden--second long-delayed AVIRIS data set,
and the lack of any further AVIRIS released.
I assert and accuse- J'Accuse"-that the preponderance of this evidence
demonstrates that the federal government of the United States of America did
explode nuclear bombs inside most of the WTC buildings on 9/11/01.
Furthermore, there was a resultant China Syndrome (through mechanisms
detailed here by me previously) of nuclear reacting fragments releasing
ionizing radiation, and high heat, for at least six months after 9/11,
causing molten steel, and radiation exposure to thousands of responders and
NYC residents. This was an act of treason, conspiracy, mass murder,
genocide, and a ruse for waging war on innocent peoples around the
world-crimes against humanity, and a ruse for blatantly eradicating American
citizens freedoms and rights. The 9/11 WTC nuclear holocaust was not likely
even the first time the American regime did this to its own citizens! Too
few people know of this research into the American government's probable
nuking of American sailors in 1944.
The 9/11 perpetrators have used, and are using, limited hangouts and psyops
to keep the people from knowing this. These hangouts, ultimately from the
U.S. regime's "intelligence" agencies, include the bogus "theories" of the
official planes/fuel/gravity/pancaking nonsense, and also thermite, DEW, and
Depleted Uranium [D.U.] (any uranium used on 9/11 at the WTC, and the China
Syndrome aftermath, would have been highly enriched, not depleted). The
observed American military helicopters and planes directing the initial
explosions, and the final nuclear destruction prove that this was not done
by Arabs, Muslims, Iranians, Israelis, Russians, or Chinese. As with the
Kennedy Assassination, this massive set of actions, and massive cover-up,
could only have been perpetrated by the so-called government of the United
States, and not by any small "rogue elements" therein. Complicit in the
original act, and/or its cover-up, are all the branches of the federal
government, its military, and intelligence agencies, and the Main Stream
Media, and even much of the so-called alternative or internet media which is
also laden with intel agents posing as "truthers," while pushing the
hangouts listed above. The people of the world must get together, in what
may be their final hour, and act literally to save themselves from
extermination, from the handful of monsters that control humanity. Nature
has demonstrated that individuals trained to be fearful can all come
together, and overcome this fear, and act and defeat the small number who
had previously seemed to be so invincible and bloodthirsty. We are indeed
likewise in the jaws of these monsters, and have been for a long time; but
likewise again, it is still possible to break free, and be free. We must
try. Like this last video, there are so many more of us, than of them.
posted by spooked @ 6:34 AM
Monday, August 20, 2007
Proof of the Existence of Mini-Nukes and Micro-Nukes
From the Anonymous Physicist
More and more people are realizing that other theories proposed could not
have destroyed the WTC, and are limited hangouts. As more people realize
that the WTC was likely demolished via small nuclear bombs (likely with
subsidiary conventional explosives), some are now claiming that milli-nukes
(mini-nukes), or micro-nukes don't even exist. Spooked and I have addressed
this issue before. Here first is proof of the "Nuclear rifle" from the 1950's,
no less.
The .01 kiloton (kt) TNT equivalent is about 1/1000th of the Hiroshima
(20KT) blast. And here is a govt scientist, Peter Leitner, PhD, speaking to
a Congressional Committee, in 1998. This is proof of nuclear bombs down into
the range of "several pounds of TNT." He stated, "These experiments involve
the ACTUAL TESTING of extremely low-yield fission devices (as low as the
equivalent of several pounds of TNT) within a confined environment." Several
pounds of TNT is equivalent to about 1/10,000,000th (one ten millionth) of
the Hiroshima blast. Thus the U.S. Govt admitted having micro-nukes, and
beyond in 1998. Note that this public admission stated that the testing was
done "in a controlled environment."
Clearly, the gov't has had milli-nukes and micro-nukes for some time.
posted by spooked @ 7:43 AM
Monday, July 09, 2007
Hanging Skin and Nuclear Blasts
Another remarkable finding from Anonymous Physicist-- the hanging skin of
9/11 casualty Felipe David is a striking piece of evidence indicating a
nuclear blast in the basement of the WTC.
Where in the World is Felipe David-- and Did He Survive Exposure to Nuclear
Radiation?
By The Anonymous Physicist
Assuming the following tale is not completely psyops, then on 9/11, Felipe
David, employed by Aramark Corp., was checking or replenishing vending
machines in one of the basement levels of WTC1. (Curiously Aramark Corp has
Thomas Kean-Chairman of the 9/11 Commission--as one of its Board Directors
since 1994.)
The following is supposedly Felipe David's account of what happened
beginning just before the first plane "hit." "That day I was in the basement
in sub-level 1 sometime after 8:30am. Everything happened so fast,
everything moved so fast. The building started shaking after I heard the
explosion below, dust was flying everywhere and all of a sudden it got real
hot. I threw myself onto the floor, covered my face because I felt like I
was burned. I sat there for a couple of seconds on the floor and felt like I
was going to die, saying to myself 'God, please give me strength.'
"When I went in, I told them it was an explosion," said David, who was then
helped out of the WTC by Rodriguez and eventually taken by ambulance to New
York Hospital. "When people looked at me with my skin hanging, they started
crying but I heard others say 'OK, good, good, you made it alive. [This ends
the extract from the first URL above.]
Now I would like people to note that nowhere in the above quote, allegedly
direct from Mr. David, does he mention fire. He states that he felt and
heard explosion(s), and then "it got real hot." He never says he saw any
fire. This may be crucial. However when you read of his story through the
words of William Rodriguez, "fire" is added into the story. "He had been
standing in front of a freight elevator on sub-level 1 about 400 feet from
the office when fire burst out of the elevator shaft, causing his injuries."
Reports, as we shall see, differ greatly as to how he got to the vicinity of
other workers for help, including keymaster William Rodriguez, of whom we
have already seen much "coincidence" and strangeness. We have the "most
official" story (always the one to be most wary of for those in the know)
that he staggered into Rodriguez' office or area, and Rodriguez helped him
outside, and into an ambulance. Some earlier reports even stated that
Rodriguez carried Mr. David. The following site no longer works, but I
copied the following from google: "Rodriguez carried Felipe David out of the
building and re-entered it to rescue two men trapped on the elevator who
were in danger of ... "
But this Christian organization's website quotes Mr David saying he ran six
blocks for help! "I asked God to give me strength. And I was able to get up
and run six blocks to find an exit," Mr. David says. Then we have this
remarkable TV interview that morning with Kenny Johannemann. Mr. Johannemann
states that he was the one who helped David, "I dragged a guy off. His skin
was hanging. I helped him into an ambulance" Note that there is no mention
of Rodriguez. Wise individuals have suggested that perhaps no one
interviewed on TV on 9/11 was genuine. Notice how the camera angle changes
and zooms in on him, just as he is asked about "terrorism." The regime had
long range plans, and a carefully crafted script. Note how Johannemann's
arms flail just like another 9/11 witness that morning who has been shown to
be bogus. He, of course, could be telling the truth (and each of you will
have to draw your own conclusions), but I cannot find anything on him in
recent years.
So we have at least four accounts as follows:
Rodriquez helped David to an ambulance.
Rodriquez carried David to an ambulance.
Johannemann helped David to an ambulance.
David ran six blocks to an ambulance.
Of course, in the shock and excitement of such events, we know that accounts
can differ, and we cannot make any definitive conclusions in this regard.
Now, let us return to Felipe David's "hanging skin." What caused this? It is
always possible that some conventional fire or explosives caused his burns
and the hanging skin on his face and arms. But we saw that David himself did
not mention "fire." So we may conclude that it wasn't any direct fire that
caused this. A conventional explosive blast could have done this. But this
too may not be so likely, as such blasts may be expected to cause different
types of wounds deep into the face and arms. But that is still a
possibility, as is a fire that he just didn't see.
That brings us to one possible cause of his hanging skin, that indeed he
couldn't possibly have seen! That is radiation from a mini-nuke, which may
have just exploded, at that time, in one of the sub-basement levels. One is
not capable of seeing the radiation (gamma rays, neutrons) emitted by a
nuclear blast. One will just feel the heat, then pain and then the skin will
be damaged, and may either be vaporized, charred or hanging-depending on the
flux intensity (distance, wavelength/type of the radiation etc. are factors
here). This eyewitness account on the survivors of the Hiroshima nuclear
attack describes how common was damaged, hanging skin amongst them. (You can
use your "find" function and search on "hanging.")
I assert my following interpretation of Mr. David's words is the most likely
account of what happened to Mr. David. He hears and feels explosion(s). He
doesn't see any fire coming at him, but is surprised to feel great heat on
his skin, and goes to the floor. He then is further shocked to feel and see
his skin burned and hanging. All this is very much like what the burn
victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki reported.
Now radiation exposure to the skin should result in significant swelling.
But we have no photos or videos of Mr. David, until this Youtube video (in
Spanish) allegedly three months later, when Mr. Rodriguez visits Mr. David.
David's face does look (still?) a bit swollen, but not much. But this is
allegedly three months later, without any allowed record of what his face,
arms and legs looked like until that point in time. Why do we not have any
photos or video of Mr David until that point in time? Could he have had
massive skin swelling, beginning almost immediately after his skin was
damaged by "something," possibly radiation from a nuclear blast? Could they
have only trotted Mr. David out after his swelling had come down to a
"normal" level?
Finally I note that there seems to be nothing in the public record on Felipe
David for the last five years or so! Even though he "too" could be regarded
as a "hero." Why do we not know where he is, and his status? Hopefully
Felipe David is OK. Hopefully he did not get cancer, or other medical
problems, or suffer a strange "accident." Hopefully truly independent
researchers will find him, and get his story direct from him, when he wouldn't
be surrounded by any public media, or "handlers" from the government, or any
other interference. With the dearth of information forced upon us, we may
ask: Where in the world is Felipe David? What has he been doing these last
five years or so?
And is Felipe David the (only?) radiation survivor of a mini-nuke at the
World Trade Center on 9/11? Does he share a kindred experience with those
who were in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in those early days of August 1945 that
marked the dawn of a new, horrible age? We must recognize that just like the
World Trade Center on 9/11, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were also called.Ground
Zero.
posted by spooked @ 5:15 AM
China Syndrome
The "China Syndrome" Came to New York City on 9/11
By The Anonymous Physicist
Some people may not have not fully grasped the significance, and necessity,
of my hypothesis on heat generating criticality sites at the WTC after 9/11.
Some shills have actually, and laughably, attempted to claim thermite could
have been been responsible for these high temperatures and molten steel.
Any attempt to have a complete theory of 9/11 must include the WTC
demolition on 9/11 itself, and crucially its aftermath of the great hotpsots
and molten steel, up to five months afterwards. The latter being supported
by irrefutable, numerous eyewitnesses, and photographs and at least one
AVIRIS overflight temperature data set. (With the second, long-delayed
release of overflight data likely being bogus, as claimed here.) It is
risible that a shill physicist claims this photo, of a crane lifting molten
steel weeks after 9/11, as "proof" of thermite use on 9/11. Now while
thermite, or other conventional explosive, may have been used in some
subsidiary capacity on 9/11, my earlier articles have highlighted how only
mini-nukes could have accounted for all the phenomena of the 9/11 WTC
demolitions. It is not unexpected, but still sickening, to see how a shill
physicist has claimed that the molten steel weeks after 9/11 "proves"
thermite alone brought down the WTC towers. He HAS to claim that, for he
knows well that the real source of this molten steel, weeks later, is
nuclear reactions.
I have stated that only nuclear criticality sites could be the source of
heat GENERATION weeks, and months after 9/11. You can find, say on Youtube,
numerous videos of thermite being used to melt things, yes, including metal-
but no vaporization. Note that the thermite is not being used as an
explosive when it is seen melting through a car, e.g. But some of those
videos clearly show that after just a few minutes, the molten thermite
residue cools off and no longer glows. It is highly likely that any thermite
at the WTC on 9/11 would have cooled off within hours. Indeed, I have stated
that even the momentary maximum temperature of a nuke's hypocenter (up to
100 million degrees), is known to cool off relatively quickly. You can
ascertain this rapid cooling off in regards to the Trinity Site, or
Hiroshima or Nagasaki, or even H-Bomb test sites. The temperatures returned
to normal at all these sites relatively quickly.
Now some claim that oxygen starved fires could allow for vastly longer high
temperature fires underground at the WTC. These people don't seem to realize
they have just proven the case ONLY for nuclear chain reactions!! Because
only nuclear chain reactions release massive heat almost indefinitely,
without needing ANY oxygen whatsoever! This is not the case for any
conventional (non-nuclear) fire. This "indefinite" massive heat source was
the basis for the term "China Syndrome" in regards to a nuclear reactor
mishap which, in theory (but not really due to other factors), could have
massive indefinite heat leading to a nuclear reactor criticality (core)
remnant burning all the way through to China.
This remarkable article on Chernobyl actually states that the China Syndrome
occurred at Chernobyl. It says, "'China Syndrome' of meltdown had taken
place inside the reactor core. Thermal explosion and outbreak of fires in
over thirty places were due to high-temperature and falling uranium core
fragments on to the roofs of adjacent buildings." So here we see learn that
the nuclear core had exploded into many pieces of- apparently still
critically reacting uranium fragments--with their concomitant high
temperatures. But this is just the kind of thing I cited in my WTC 9/11
nuclear demolition hypothesis of nukes exploding either other unexploded
mini-nukes, or nukes exploding the reactors in the Nuclear Borers.
So perhaps my previous term, "criticality sites" regarding the source of
high temperatures and molten steel, weeks and months after 9/11 is too
vague. Instead I propose that from now on we think of this aftermath of
molten steel, weeks and months after 9/11 as. "The China Syndrome came to
New York City on 9/11."
posted by spooked @ 5:14 AM
Sunday, July 01, 2007
Bîllary/2008
scientist of gullible warming. Completely discount the science and scientist
and engineers who explained the collapse of the WTC? What's wrong with this
picture?
sandman
"Bîllary/2008" <BillaryCl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Because they've been disproved, and the USG no longer has any credibility?
sandman
Bîllary/2008
"sandman" <san...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
Paranoid imbecile moron's like you are going to go to your grave. Foaming
and drooling at the mouth, mumbling something about "micronukes" and the
WTC. Please make it soon.
Docky Wocky
explaining the whys and wherefors of the something, the orginal kooks have
to do the other kooks one better and invent kookier and kookier theories to
explain the original something.They even bring in kook scientists, who,
under other circumstances and before political correctness, would have been
termed kookie scientists.
It is oneupskookship in action.
It always eventually comes down to one set of kooks oyvaysmearing the other
kooks.
sandman
-- AVIRIS,
-- LIDAR,
By The Anonymous Physicist
From the Anonymous Physicist
By The Anonymous Physicist
China Syndrome
By The Anonymous Physicist
"Bîllary/2008" <BillaryCl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The Woodsman
That's what Bush was saying to Condi, in bed on 9/10/2001 while they smoked
their cigarets.
Al Dykes
None of the many thousands of eyewitnesses saw anything. WTC was
possibly the best photographed disaster ever. Nobody caught anything
on a pictire or video that is inconsistant with the two commercial
jets causing all the destruction.
Every bit of steel and rubble was examined by a team of some thousands
forensic folks. nothing unusual was found that supports any Twoofer
claims. A huge amount of it is in storage for examination.
--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
Al Dykes
>See "China Syndrome at the WTC" for articles pertaining to the aftermath of
>the WTC nuclear demolition and the extreme heat phenomena seen at "Ground
>Zero".
>
>posted by spooked @ 8:21 AM
>
>Friday, August 24, 2007
>Brief Evidence of Nuclear bombs used at the WTC on 9/11/01
>
>From the Anonymous Physicist, extracted from here.
>
>-- the proven existence of mini-nukes and micro-nukes
>
Funny, nobody at WTC on 9/11 noticed a nuke, including myself.
Nobody heard any explosions consistent in size or timing with any
collapse.
Nobody saw the blinding white light and voluminous white smoke
consistent with thermate/thermite preceding any collapse.
Nobody found slag in the pile consistent with thermate/thermite
Barbi Satin
"Al Dykes" <ady...@panix.com> wrote in message
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So how well does your job at the ministry of propaganda pay?
Freedom Fighter
9/11 are no more than disinformationists - shills whose purpose is to make
ALL conspiracy theorists appear unworthy of serious consideration. Their
intention is to obfuscate the truth and sustain the government coverup.
The use of thermate incendiary and high explosive charges for controlled
demolition is sufficient to explain all the observed phenomena. Yes, the
towers were struck by planes, but WTC building 7 WAS NOT. The explosives had
to be put in place in WTC 7 BEFORE the planes struck the towers, and this
provides the strongest evidence that 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
So what, American Sheeple, are we going to do about these mass-murdering
fascist TRAITORS?
Kevin Cunningham
>
> read more »
The above is the dumbest thing I have ever read. Now, on the good
side it is the dumbest thing you will ever read or have read to you.
Real stupidity brought to you by the really stupid.
Look, ass hole, get used to the idea that the WTC was brought down by
two air planes. You saw it, you heard it and thousands of competent
people proved it over and over again.
Ron O'Neal
<snipped>
I Googled a phrase from your post, "Some shills have actually, and
laughably, attempted to claim thermite" and got exactly three hits. All
three were blogs. And for you, this is "proof"?
You eat Blogs for breakfast.......Right? And then poop 'em out in the
afternoon on this News Group.
RO
sandman
"Freedom Fighter" <lib...@once.net> wrote in message
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> Most of those putting forth these "nuke" and other far-fetched theories
> re. 9/11 are no more than disinformationists - shills whose purpose is to
> make ALL conspiracy theorists appear unworthy of serious consideration.
> Their intention is to obfuscate the truth and sustain the government
> coverup.
>
> The use of thermate incendiary and high explosive charges for controlled
> demolition is sufficient to explain all the observed phenomena.
You're wrong on the thermate, BTW, has never, ever EVER been used as an
explosive, only for cleanup, and Steven Jones is a dangerous man.
Also,
Crash Physics:
Bugs vs. windshields............... speed only changes the size of the
splat.
no BODIES,
no LUGGAGE,
no SEATS
no PLANE PARTS\
no BUILDING parts.....
Only complete fools continue to believe planes were used on the towers on
9/11.
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=1303&st=0&#entry14425767
Bîllary/2008
"Kevin Cunningham" <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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The above is the dumbest thing I have ever read. Now, on the good
side it is the dumbest thing you will ever read or have read to you.
Real stupidity brought to you by the really stupid.
Look, ass hole, get used to the idea that the WTC was brought down by
two air planes. You saw it, you heard it and thousands of competent
people proved it over and over again.
<<<>>>
At last, we agree on something! This guy is an idiot.
Bîllary/2008
>
> Only complete fools continue to believe planes were used on the towers on
> 9/11.
Don't be a fucking assclown. I saw the planes hit with my own two eyes. Get
a fucking life you insane loser.
Stu Gotz
Shhhh....Don't tell anyone...but they were launched from the MOON!
Oh, wait....We didn't land on the moon. You told all of us
so....Ummmm.....Never mind.....
Stu Gotz
"Freedom Fighter" <lib...@once.net> wrote in message
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I like garlic baloney, myself. OTOH, I've never tried nuclear baloney. Does
it taste good?
Stu Gotz
SteveL
Unlike loony 9/11 conspiracy theories, and whether ultimately true or
not, global warming is hardly a cult of "morons and nuts". It is the
standard vanilla, mainstream position of science and acknowledging it
is the official stance of most governments. Even the USA.
I take it you thing "gullible warming" is a massive government/media
conspiracy of incredible dimensions designed to pull the wool over the
public's eyes, in order to fulfill some sinister agenda?
You're no better than sandman.
Sandman's a wonderful kook. But you're dishonest too.
SteveL
Nuclear weapons?
ROTFLMAO!!!
Erich
SteveL <stev...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:26:27 GMT, "Bîllary/2008"
> <BillaryCl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >You ever notice that the same morons and nuts who believe in the science and
> >scientist of gullible warming. Completely discount the science and scientist
> >and engineers who explained the collapse of the WTC? What's wrong with this
> >picture?
>
> Unlike loony 9/11 conspiracy theories, and whether ultimately true or
> not, global warming is hardly a cult of "morons and nuts". It is the
> standard vanilla, mainstream position of science and acknowledging it
> is the official stance of most governments. Even the USA.
The 9/11 conspiracy buffs claim that the scientists working at NIST are
all incompetent or corrupt. (NIST did the modeling and research on why
the WTC buildings collapsed).
The global warming deniers make the same claim about the scientists
working at NOAA.
Both groups have scientists on their side. The 9/11 conspiracy
promoters keep trotting out Steven Jones. A former BYU professor and
cold fusion researcher who doesn't have a background in structural
engineering. Global warming deniers have Timothy Ball, who never
published a scientific paper in the field of climatology and has been
working for energy companies for the last decade.
I find it easier to believe that Jones and Ball have gone off the deep
end rather than the entire staff of NIST and NOAA.
--
Erich
AirRaid
but it's hard for most people including myself to imagine nuclear
bombs being used, unless they're truly of the little-understood "micro-
nuke" variety.
This post is interesting, enough so to get me to read it through
carefully.
> per se, but bombardment ...
>
> read more »
John Black
lib...@once.net says...
> Most of those putting forth these "nuke" and other far-fetched theories re.
> 9/11 are no more than disinformationists - shills whose purpose is to make
> ALL conspiracy theorists appear unworthy of serious consideration. Their
> intention is to obfuscate the truth and sustain the government coverup.
LOL. Nothing funnier than two kooks arguing about which wacko theory is
too loony to be true.
> The use of thermate incendiary and high explosive charges for controlled
> demolition is sufficient to explain all the observed phenomena. Yes, the
> towers were struck by planes, but WTC building 7 WAS NOT.
No, it only had two of the largest buildings in the world fall on it,
that's all.
> The explosives had
> to be put in place in WTC 7 BEFORE the planes struck the towers, and this
> provides the strongest evidence that 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
If the strongest evidence is that you can't figure out why a building
which had skyscrapers fall on it collapsed, then you (as everyone knows)
have nothing.
> So what, American Sheeple, are we going to do about these mass-murdering
> fascist TRAITORS?
We're fighting the organization that did this in Afghanistan and Iraq.
John Black
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John Black
> the proven existence of mini-nukes and micro-nukes
Micronukes! LOL!!!! Now, I've heard it all.
Orval Fairbairn
John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:
> In article <180nkp....@news.alt.net>, san...@hotmail.com says...
> > the proven existence of mini-nukes and micro-nukes
>
> Micronukes! LOL!!!! Now, I've heard it all.
>
> John Black
John,
They are using the latest balonium/unubtanium technology -- don't you
know? ;>)
It is the same stuff that "thermate" is msade of!
sandman
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Naive.
sandman
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sandman
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shill and *plonked*
John Black
oet...@qwest.net says...
Nice try but the two are hardly comparable. Timothy Ball plus some of
the most respected hurricane experts in the world, plus hundreds of
climatologists and meteorologists around the world at presigious
universities who have published plenty of scientific papers in the field
of climatology.
Erich
John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:
A list of names and papers would have been appropriate along with that
post. That would allow your claim to be checked.
Note also that many researchers have changed their minds on this issue
as more evidence has been accumulated. A paper published a decade ago
may not reflect the current opinion of the author.
--
Erich
Erich
"sandman" <san...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Naive.
Have you ever worked at one of our National Labs, or even met some of
the scientists that do?
--
Erich
sandman
I cannot think of a single agency that is supposed to serve the people that
is not under control of this evil corrupt crime syndicate that acquired all
branches of government.. NIST and the 9/11 Comm. produced nearly 500-page
lie, according to Dr. David Ray Griffin.
It is time for every American to make up their mind who they trust--their
government, or their fellow citizens who fight to expose them.
sandman
And you, sir, are a shill.
Al Dykes
You are sick, get help.
----
Anyone that hasn't seen Ground Zero in NYC and the "Truth Movement"
kooks that hang out there should look at the first three videos. The
others should be required viewing by anyone that has an opinion about
9/11 and WTC or has never been to NYC.
Ground Zero 911 Conspiracy Wars by Ray Rivera http://rayrivera.net
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4162315283354424113
The Ground Zeros by Mark Roberts
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5004042232637229146&hl=en
WTC Ground Zero 9/11/2007 Sad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr2LeCXXIjo
The Naudet Film about 9/11 at WTC
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6371069744838112957&q=Naudet
Marks's collapse video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2083421624495848233&hl=en
"The 9 - 11 Conspiracies - Fact or Fiction"
http://www.torrentbox.com/torrent_details?id=125450