Right-wing militias on the rise in US
Cliff
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gM22IQrmZnGbPyby5gfBqH_2rIaQ
[
Incensed by the election of the first black US president, right-wing militia
groups in the United States are rising again after a decade of decline,
according to new research on extremist groups released on Wednesday.
Ideologically driven by racism and a virulent anti-government, anti-taxation and
anti-immigrant agenda, the homegrown groups that thrived in the 1990s and
spurred numerous deadly terrorist attacks are expanding, said the Southern
Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
"This is the most significant growth we've seen in 10 to 12 years," said a law
enforcement official quoted by the SPLC in its special report "The Second Wave:
Return of the Militias."
"All it's lacking is a spark," said the official, adding it is "only a matter of
time before you see threats and violence."
Attacks continued in the last decade after the 1995 bombing of a government
building in Oklahoma, killing 168 people -- the deadliest domestic terrorist
attack on US soil
....
]
MagneticEnergy
brothers out there who are friends with the guys out there at club
Gitmo, and he had what, almost 30,000 rounds of ammo? Hey, we're just
preparing for the Chinese robots, since they may feel like they are
getting screwed out of their investments? Or would that be a false
assumption, a good idea, or just another hallucination? Or are you
trying to get a new client list for the guy they let loose in Thailand
recently, and they let go because he was "framed"?
Why do you think people sell weapons in that part of the world?
Because they love to fight? Don't worry, your watch dogs are
terrified of a GI Jane with 500 rounds of ammo, but don't say a word
when they catch a Muslim with 30,000 rounds? No mention of the Islam
"survival camps" in the US? You MUST be a RACIST! LOL.
Christopher Helms
> http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gM22IQrmZnGbPyby5g...
The Republicans are about one more electoral loss away from fitting
the definition of a domestic insurrection. It should be noted that
this outrage, manufactured or not, is almost exclusively white. It's
white people stockpiling ammunition, disrupting town hall meetings,
questioning Obama's birth certificate and joining militias. It's white
people bitching about immigrants and demanding that walls be built,
it's white people calling Obama a Marxist and it's white people who
suddenly became "concerned" about the Constitution after eight years
of Bush and Cheney using it to blow their noses and wipe their butts.
A black guy is the president of the United States and I think that,
all by itself, is driving a large portion of White America completely
fucking crazy.
Nicholas
That's a pretty big generalization. My issue with Obamination is
POLICY. How is he going to further fvck up my Medical Insurance, and
such. To me, his color is irrelevant, except as it influences HIS
prejudices.
Nick
John R. Carroll
Yep,
LMFAO
And he's actually not doing too bad a job, all things considered, and that
drives the nut cases bat shit crazier.
--
John R. Carroll
Calif Bill
"John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
news:VPWdnZDBJJ-1yx7X...@giganews.com...
Not doing a bad job? What the hell has he done correctly?
John R. Carroll
The perfect question.
If you have to ask it instead of pointing out serious erors, you have
answered you own question.
The real test of this President is yet to come, believe me, and I don't know
if this administration is up to the tasks they will face.
--
John R. Carroll
MagneticEnergy
>
> The Republicans are about one more electoral loss away from fitting
> the definition of a domestic insurrection. It should be noted that
> this outrage, manufactured or not, is almost exclusively white. It's
> white people stockpiling ammunition, disrupting town hall meetings,
> questioning Obama's birth certificate and joining militias. It's white
> people bitching about immigrants and demanding that walls be built,
> it's white people calling Obama a Marxist and it's white people who
> suddenly became "concerned" about the Constitution after eight years
> of Bush and Cheney using it to blow their noses and wipe their butts.
> A black guy is the president of the United States and I think that,
> all by itself, is driving a large portion of White America completely
> fucking crazy.
Well that's a pretty hard accusation to prove considering that the
main stream media refuses to cover as little as possible of any public
gatherings concerning protests against government policies? How do
you know that blacks are not protesting if the media refuses to show
it? And that is a damn insult against the blacks that I have and do
work with in the military and law enforcement communities, not to
mention that most educated black people with college degrees do NOT
talk like you do. That's OK, it will be easier to wipe out the
Democrat political base if they choose to simply argue the issues with
the color of their skin?
And like it or not, people have had enough, and if black people see
other black people getting beat up at protests, are you supposed to
pat yourselves on the back and just call everyone racist who does not
agree with you? That won't work with the Chinese very long, and they
like to build stuff, don't they?
MagneticEnergy
more white protesters because the ratio of education that would allow
people to understand what the proposed laws, policies and regulations
are structured to do, and how they will affect their lives -- is in a
higher proportion for whites, then blacks? Didn't I read some where
that the numbers of blacks who drop out of high school are fairly
high, and if they don't understand what is going on, why should they
protest?
Isn't that a plausible explanation without assuming that some kind of
racism is going on?
Fiftycal
<Chrish...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>The Republicans are about one more electoral loss away from fitting
>the definition of a domestic insurrection.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood
of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson
>It should be noted that
>this outrage, manufactured or not, is almost exclusively white.
No, it's exclusively dimorat. The ONLY people throwing race into this
are dimorats.
> It's
>white people stockpiling ammunition, disrupting town hall meetings,
>questioning Obama's birth certificate and joining militias.
Most dimorats are either afraid of guns or felons, so they CAN'T
legally stockpile ammunition without fear of prison. Union thugs, at
Obammys request have tried to disrupt a few health care truthers, but
they were so inept that even the police had to arrest them.
>It's white
>people bitching about immigrants and demanding that walls be built,
ILLEGAL immigrants, mofo.
>it's white people calling Obama a Marxist
Yah, now MORE than 50% of the people recognize Obammy is a
fascist/socialist and more and more of the people that voted for him
to assuage their white guilt are regretting that vote.
>A black guy is the president of the United States and I think that,
>all by itself, is driving a large portion of White America completely
>fucking crazy.
Umm, Obammy is 1/2 "black". And everyone that I know is concerned
because he is a fucking communist and trying to run this country into
the ground before he has to face re-election. Not because he is 1/2
black.
Fiftycal
<nospam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> And he's actually not doing too bad a job, all things considered, and that
>> drives the nut cases bat shit crazier.
>>
>>
>> --
>> John R. Carroll
>>
>>
>
>Not doing a bad job? What the hell has he done correctly?
>
Obammy is "black" (actually 1/2 black). That releases some of the
posters white guilt.
Fiftycal
<nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote:
>> Not doing a bad job? What the hell has he done correctly?
>
>The perfect question.
>If you have to ask it instead of pointing out serious erors, you have
>answered you own question.
>The real test of this President is yet to come, believe me, and I don't know
>if this administration is up to the tasks they will face.
Ah, the "perfect" answer. Totally devoid of substance, depending on
future performance, totally devoid of expectations for that
performance.
So, no matter what The One does in the future, it will be "fantastic",
right, kool-aide drinker?
Calif Bill
"John R. Carroll" <nu...@bidness.dev.nul> wrote in message
Bull on your answer. You are the one that says he is doing a good job.
Back up YOUR statement. I am stating he has sucked so far as the CEO of the
country. Overspent big time, with little to show for it, other than large
debt. Stated bills would be transparent and 5 days for the public to review
before he signed. Can not explain the current healthcare bill (actually 3
competing bills) and wanted them by Aug 1. Wants to control 1/6 of the US
GDP and can not explain the bill? Can not answer where it is going to save
money. Has not improved Iraq, cranked up Afghanistan. What the hell has he
done correctly?
Gray Ghost
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> 2rIaQ [
That's right jackass. Don't piss us off.
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Yeah that's it. You found us out. We're all racists.
Couldn't be we object to all you listed on rational and reasonable grounds
becuase we're not reasonable and rational, right?
Bigots like you are the reason it's happening.
Gray Ghost
And we note that you are unable to point out anything he's done right.
Billary/2009
Bullshit. I stock up on guns and ammo to protect myself from the very
militia types you claim are ready to commit insurrection. I don't
support their agenda. And when they come for me. I'll be ready. Just
as I'll be ready when the leftist Nazis come for me. How about you
asshole, will you be ready? Or will you just roll over and die?
jon_banqueer
> http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gM22IQrmZnGbPyby5g...
> [
Now, if we can just get them to add Cliffy to the list to be *taken
care of*. Can you imagine how peacful a.m.c would become?
Jon Banqueer
San Diego, CA
Lookout
This was predicted the day after the election. The whiney cry babies
who are disrupting the town meetings are just the latest example of
this.
Lookout
<Chrish...@yahoo.com> wrote:
You nailed it. And the twerps in here fit the description to a T
Lookout
wrote:
>On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:50:05 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Helms
><Chrish...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>The Republicans are about one more electoral loss away from fitting
>>the definition of a domestic insurrection.
>
>The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood
>of patriots and tyrants.
>Thomas Jefferson
Good. Line up Lush Dumbo, Palin, bush, Cheney, Rove, Rummy, Hannity,
Reilly, and any others you choose from that side. Give me an M16,
about 20 rounds to zero it and I'll be glad to back up 250 meters and
start the revolution.
>>It should be noted that
>>this outrage, manufactured or not, is almost exclusively white.
>
>No, it's exclusively dimorat. The ONLY people throwing race into this
>are dimorats.
You can't admit it's all white, can you? Why can't you admit that
simple fact?
>> It's
>>white people stockpiling ammunition, disrupting town hall meetings,
>>questioning Obama's birth certificate and joining militias.
>
>Most dimorats are either afraid of guns or felons,
That's a lie.
>so they CAN'T
>legally stockpile ammunition without fear of prison. Union thugs, at
>Obammys request have tried to disrupt a few health care truthers
Another lie
>, but
>they were so inept that even the police had to arrest them.
>
>>It's white
>>people bitching about immigrants and demanding that walls be built,
>
>ILLEGAL immigrants, mofo.
Hey! We agree!
>>it's white people calling Obama a Marxist
>
>Yah, now MORE than 50% of the people recognize Obammy is a
>fascist/socialist and more and more of the people that voted for him
>to assuage their white guilt are regretting that vote.
Another lie.
>>A black guy is the president of the United States and I think that,
>>all by itself, is driving a large portion of White America completely
>>fucking crazy.
>
>Umm, Obammy is 1/2 "black". And everyone that I know is concerned
>because he is a fucking communist and trying to run this country into
>the ground before he has to face re-election. Not because he is 1/2
>black.
On this last point you're just wrong.
Curly Surmudgeon
Do you really believe JRC said that Obama is "doing a good job" or are
you intentionally misrepresenting his words for a rational just so you
can rant?
> Back up YOUR statement. I am stating he has sucked so far as the CEO of
> the country. Overspent big time, with little to show for it, other than
> large debt. Stated bills would be transparent and 5 days for the public
> to review before he signed. Can not explain the current healthcare bill
> (actually 3 competing bills) and wanted them by Aug 1. Wants to control
> 1/6 of the US GDP and can not explain the bill? Can not answer where it
> is going to save money. Has not improved Iraq, cranked up Afghanistan.
> What the hell has he done correctly?
--
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Jeff M
> Good. Line up Lush Dumbo, Palin, bush, Cheney, Rove, Rummy, Hannity,
> Reilly, and any others you choose from that side. Give me an M16,
> about 20 rounds to zero it and I'll be glad to back up 250 meters and
> start the revolution.
You need twenty rounds to zero? Time for a bit more instruction first,
I'd say.
Kirk Gordon
No. If you listen to any of the town hall rantings that have been
reported, it's painfully clear that the white folks doing all the
yelling and screaming don't have a clue, either.
KG
Garlicdude
>
>
> No. If you listen to any of the town hall rantings that have been
> reported, it's painfully clear that the white folks doing all the
> yelling and screaming don't have a clue, either.
>
> KG
>
>
That includes the Congress critters running the town halls
Best,
Steve
--
Regards,
Steve Saling
aka The Garlic Dude �
Gilroy, CA
The Garlic Capital of The World
Scout
> http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gM22IQrmZnGbPyby5gfBqH_2rIaQ
> [
> Incensed by the election of the first black US president, right-wing
> militia groups in the United States are rising again after a decade
> of decline, according to new research on extremist groups released on
> Wednesday.
>
> Ideologically driven by racism and a virulent anti-government,
> anti-taxation and anti-immigrant agenda, the homegrown groups that
> thrived in the 1990s and spurred numerous deadly terrorist attacks
> are expanding, said the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
<snip>
What exactly does a knowledge of Southern Poverty Law have to do with
militias, much less tracking their numbers, principles, etc?
Sounds to me like someone pulling it out of his ass.
Kind of like getting a report from the National Pipefitters Union about the
increase in the Asia Willow Fly in Poland.
One can certainly see the connection........NOT.
MB
Does just one 'black' guy make you a liar or just an idiot?
There are many more 'black' people who disaggree w/BHO.
Do the search.
MB
Curly Surmudgeon
> Only half of it :)
Groucho was informed that he would not be allowed to go in the swimming
pool at a private club because it did not admit Jews. "Well, my son is
half Jewish," he responded, "Can he go in up to his waist?"
Nicholas
<CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:36:03 -0400, Zombywoof <Zomby...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:46:01 -0500, Fiftycal <n...@abcnnbcbs.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:00:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
>>><nospam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> And he's actually not doing too bad a job, all things considered, and
>>>>> that drives the nut cases bat shit crazier.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> John R. Carroll
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Not doing a bad job? What the hell has he done correctly?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Obammy is "black" (actually 1/2 black). That releases some of the
>>>posters white guilt.
>>>
>> Only half of it :)
>
>Groucho was informed that he would not be allowed to go in the swimming
>pool at a private club because it did not admit Jews. "Well, my son is
>half Jewish," he responded, "Can he go in up to his waist?"
Never go into a swimming pool that has children in it. They piss and
shit their suits all the time and you're possibly swallowing bits of
that when you're splashing/swimming about. Oh the chlorine will kill
it? Really? They have to put Signs up for the niggers and trailer
trash here that say DON'T PISS OR SHIT IN THE POOL.
Like people are thinking, "hey, I have to take a leak...let's go over
to the pool for a minute."
Lookout
wrote:
It's been 25 years since I fired a rifle and that was the first time I
had fired any fire arm in my life. I figure 10 just to get used to
timing my breathing and 3 shots of 3 to zero as we did in Basic
Training. I'd say 20 would do it.
Lookout
wrote:
But they are all white folks. This is 90% about racism. The other 10%
is about those who still think Obama is moslem.
Lookout
wrote:
>Kirk Gordon wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> No. If you listen to any of the town hall rantings that have been
>> reported, it's painfully clear that the white folks doing all the
>> yelling and screaming don't have a clue, either.
>>
>> KG
>>
>>
>
>
>That includes the Congress critters running the town halls
>
>Best,
>Steve
Agreed. I've seen some vids where the members of congress have no idea
what they are talking about.
John Husvar
Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:36:03 -0400, Zombywoof <Zomby...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:46:01 -0500, Fiftycal <n...@abcnnbcbs.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:00:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
> >><nospam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> And he's actually not doing too bad a job, all things considered, and
> >>>> that drives the nut cases bat shit crazier.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> John R. Carroll
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Not doing a bad job? What the hell has he done correctly?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Obammy is "black" (actually 1/2 black). That releases some of the
> >>posters white guilt.
> >>
> > Only half of it :)
>
> Groucho was informed that he would not be allowed to go in the swimming
> pool at a private club because it did not admit Jews. "Well, my son is
> half Jewish," he responded, "Can he go in up to his waist?"
Fiorello La Guardia, when it was mentioned he was half Jewish, replied
to the effect of: Hell, half Jewish ain't worth talking about!
Exactly what he meant by that, I don't know, but he apparently didn't
consider it the pejorative that might have been intended.
Billary/2009
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> Cliff wrote:
> >http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gM22IQrmZnGbPyby5g...
Well to be completely fair. They get much of their information from
local authorities, Feds and informant/infiltrators. Then they spin
it. I am very pro 2nd amendment and always vote that issue FIRST. But
if you've ever met or seen some of these white supremacist types.
You'd be scared. They are a scary bunch. They are just as angry and
mentally unstable as the inner city gang bangers are. But for
different reasons.
Fred Brown
"Christopher Helms" <Chrish...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:51731437-c1d8-4bd0...@r18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 12, 6:17 pm, Cliff <Clhupr...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gM22IQrmZnGbPyby5g...
> [
> Incensed by the election of the first black US president, right-wing
> militia
> groups in the United States are rising again after a decade of decline,
> according to new research on extremist groups released on Wednesday.
Don't worry, it's just panicky left wing democrats trying to divert
attention
from Obama's policys by menacing the people with a new imaginary
hobgoblin. Those scarey militia pople and their scarey guns. OooooH!
> Ideologically driven by racism and a virulent anti-government,
> anti-taxation and
> anti-immigrant agenda, the homegrown groups that thrived in the 1990s and
> spurred numerous deadly terrorist attacks are expanding, said the Southern
> Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
>
Without the white vote Barack Obama would still be a senator in
congress. It was the white vote that put him in office. He promised
change and transparency in government and then crafted the changes
behind closed doors and tried and in some cases succeeded in ramming
the changes through congress. Obama had a chance to be a great
president but blew it with his hidden socialist agenda. The White
House will never see another black president.
Cliff
<Chrish...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Aug 12, 6:17�pm, Cliff <Clhupr...@aol.com> wrote:
>> http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gM22IQrmZnGbPyby5g...
>> [
>> Incensed by the election of the first black US president, right-wing militia
>> groups in the United States are rising again after a decade of decline,
>> according to new research on extremist groups released on Wednesday.
>>
>> Ideologically driven by racism and a virulent anti-government, anti-taxation and
>> anti-immigrant agenda, the homegrown groups that thrived in the 1990s and
>> spurred numerous deadly terrorist attacks are expanding, said the Southern
>> Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
>>
>> "This is the most significant growth we've seen in 10 to 12 years," said a law
>> enforcement official quoted by the SPLC in its special report "The Second Wave:
>> Return of the Militias."
>>
>> "All it's lacking is a spark," said the official, adding it is "only a matter of
>> time before you see threats and violence."
>>
>> Attacks continued in the last decade after the 1995 bombing of a government
>> building in Oklahoma, killing 168 people -- the deadliest domestic terrorist
>> attack on US soil
>> ....
>> ]
>
>
>The Republicans are about one more electoral loss away from fitting
>the definition of a domestic insurrection. It should be noted that
>this outrage, manufactured or not, is almost exclusively white. It's
>white people stockpiling ammunition, disrupting town hall meetings,
>questioning Obama's birth certificate and joining militias. It's white
>people bitching about immigrants and demanding that walls be built,
>it's white people calling Obama a Marxist and it's white people who
>suddenly became "concerned" about the Constitution after eight years
>of Bush and Cheney using it to blow their noses and wipe their butts.
News is out that Cheney may be squealing on bush.
>A black guy is the president of the United States and I think that,
>all by itself, is driving a large portion of White America completely
>fucking crazy.
We have found the racists & they are all rethugs & wingers ....
and ignorant.
Plus Obama is smart & educated. And is not a tool of the lobbiests,
fundies & fools.
Sadly he IS a centrist.
--
Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
>My issue with Obamination is
>POLICY. How is he going to further fvck up my Medical Insurance
How bad is it NOW?
How expensive will it be in 10 years with ~20% price hikes each year?
[
10 Ways to Tell Your Company has Switched to Cheaper Health Insurance
Your annual breast exam is done at Hooters.
Directions to your doctor's office include "Take a left at the trailer park."
The tongue depressors taste faintly of Fudgesicles
The only proctologist in the plan is "Gus" from Roto-Rooter.
The only item listed under Preventative Care Coverage is "An apple a day."
Your primary care physician is wearing the pants you gave to Goodwill last
month.
"The patient is responsible for 200% of out-of-network charges."
The only expense covered 100% is "embalming."
Your Prozac comes in different colors with little M's on them.
You ask for Viagra, and they give you a Popsicle stick and duct tape.
]
Cliff
<butterf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>You said:
>>
>> The Republicans are about one more electoral loss away from fitting
>> the definition of a domestic insurrection. It should be noted that
>> this outrage, manufactured or not, is almost exclusively white. It's
>> white people stockpiling ammunition, disrupting town hall meetings,
>> questioning Obama's birth certificate and joining militias. It's white
>> people bitching about immigrants and demanding that walls be built,
>> it's white people calling Obama a Marxist and it's white people who
>> suddenly became "concerned" about the Constitution after eight years
>> of Bush and Cheney using it to blow their noses and wipe their butts.
>> A black guy is the president of the United States and I think that,
>> all by itself, is driving a large portion of White America completely
>> fucking crazy.
>
>
>Well that's a pretty hard accusation to prove considering that the
>main stream media refuses to cover as little as possible of any public
>gatherings concerning protests against government policies?
The most popular thing being pushed by winger media?
Popular with them, anyway.
>How do
>you know that blacks are not protesting if the media refuses to show
>it?
I suppose you could count faces.
>And that is a damn insult against the blacks that I have and do
>work with in the military and law enforcement communities, not to
>mention that most educated black people with college degrees do NOT
>talk like you do.
They are rethugs?
>That's OK, it will be easier to wipe out the
>Democrat political base if they choose to simply argue the issues with
>the color of their skin?
With the wingers screaming lies how can anybody talk about the issues?
That's the LAST thing they want.
You've seen the rethug plan, right?
Probably involves sheets by now.
>And like it or not, people have had enough, and if black people see
>other black people getting beat up at protests,
When are the wingers starting with this plan?
>are you supposed to
>pat yourselves on the back and just call everyone racist who does not
>agree with you? That won't work with the Chinese very long, and they
>like to build stuff, don't they?
Now you blame China?
--
Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
>They have to put Signs up for the niggers and trailer
>trash here that say DON'T PISS OR SHIT IN THE POOL.
They have audio tapes for the wingers?
--
Cliff
Cliff
<BillaryCl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>leftist Nazis
That was a party of wingers. Nothing less.
They call it the right-wing because they lie about everything,
starting with "right". Probably in their rules. That and being idiots
& wanting to steal & murder people. And impose their silly superstitions
by force on everybody but themselves.
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include the right to life, liberty, and property.
]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservativism
[
Conservatism is a relativistic term used to describe political philosophies that
favor traditional values, where "tradition" refers to religious, cultural, or
nationally defined beliefs and customs.
...
Some conservatives seek to preserve the status quo, while others seek to return
to the values of an earlier time, the status quo ante.
...
The prototype of a conservative society is the medieval manor where the majority
were serfs who lived under the authority of the "lords" and the Church. Such an
arrangement insulated itself from change. Conservatism has not produced, nor
does it tend to produce systematic treatises like Hobbes� Leviathan or Locke�s
Two Treatises of Government.
...
[
Scholar R.J. White once put it this way:
"To put conservatism in a bottle with a label is like trying to liquefy the
atmosphere � The difficulty arises from the nature of the thing. Conservatives
are people who live in the shroud of ignorance and darkness...."
]
...
Benjamin Disraeli, himself a member of the Conservative Party in England, wrote
in 1845, "A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy. The comment was
provoked when the Conservative Party split into two groups, based on whether or
not they would personally profit from the repeal of the corn laws"
...
In western democracies, 'conservative' and 'right-wing' are often used
interchangeably, as near-synonyms.
...
Religious conservatives seek to preserve the teachings of some particular
religion, sometimes by proclaiming the value of those teachings, at other times
seeking to have those teachings given the force of law.
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
"Early support for the Nazis, displayed in various parades, came from the old
conservative order that was the military."
...
"... Nazism's populism, anti-Communism and anti-capitalism helped it become
more powerful and popular than traditional conservative parties."
...
"The simplicity of Nazi rhetoric, campaigns, and ideology also made its
conservative allies underestimate its strength .."
...
" .. Britain (from 1931 onwards under an overwhelmingly Conservative
government) had appeased pre-Nazi Germany."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
"Fascism had a strong base of support among the working classes and extremely
poor peasants. Other supports have included members of big business, farmers and
landowners, nationalists, and reactionaries, disaffected World War I veterans,
intellectuals such as Gabriele D'Annunzio, Curzio Malaparte, Filippo Tommaso
Marinetti, Carl Schmitt and Martin Heidegger, conservatives and small
businessmen."
...
"Italian Fascism took power with the blessing of Italy's king after years of
leftist-led unrest led many conservatives to fear that a communist revolution
was inevitable (Marxist philosopher Antonio Gramsci popularized the conception
that fascism was the Capital's response to the organized workers' movement)."
...
Throughout Europe, numerous aristocrats, conservative intellectuals,
capitalists and industrialists lent their support to fascist movements in their
countries that emulated Italian Fascism. In Germany, numerous right-wing
nationalist groups arose ...
...
Fascist movements like Rexism in Belgium and the Christian Social Party also
combined fascist and conservative populist Roman Catholic elements."
]
[
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal
[
Liberalism refers to a broad array of related doctrines, ideologies,
philosophical views, and political traditions which advocate individual liberty.
...
Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights. It seeks a society
characterized by freedom of thought for individuals, limitations on power
(especially of government and religion), the rule of law, the free exchange of
ideas, a market economy that supports free private enterprise, and a transparent
system of government in which the rights of all citizens are protected.
...
Liberalism rejected many foundational assumptions that dominated most earlier
theories of government, such as the Divine Right of Kings, hereditary status,
and established religion. Fundamental human rights that all liberals support
include the right to life, liberty, and property.
]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservativism
[
Conservatism is a relativistic term used to describe political philosophies that
favor traditional values, where "tradition" refers to religious, cultural, or
nationally defined beliefs and customs.
...
Some conservatives seek to preserve the status quo, while others seek to return
to the values of an earlier time, the status quo ante.
...
The prototype of a conservative society is the medieval manor where the majority
were serfs who lived under the authority of the "lords" and the Church. Such an
arrangement insulated itself from change. Conservatism has not produced, nor
does it tend to produce systematic treatises like Hobbes� Leviathan or Locke�s
Two Treatises of Government.
...
[
Scholar R.J. White once put it this way:
"To put conservatism in a bottle with a label is like trying to liquefy the
atmosphere � The difficulty arises from the nature of the thing. Conservatives
are people who live in the shroud of ignorance and darkness...."
]
...
Benjamin Disraeli, himself a member of the Conservative Party in England, wrote
in 1845, "A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy. The comment was
provoked when the Conservative Party split into two groups, based on whether or
not they would personally profit from the repeal of the corn laws"
...
In western democracies, 'conservative' and 'right-wing' are often used
interchangeably, as near-synonyms.
...
Religious conservatives seek to preserve the teachings of some particular
religion, sometimes by proclaiming the value of those teachings, at other times
seeking to have those teachings given the force of law.
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
"Early support for the Nazis, displayed in various parades, came from the old
conservative order that was the military."
...
"... Nazism's populism, anti-Communism and anti-capitalism helped it become
more powerful and popular than traditional conservative parties."
...
"The simplicity of Nazi rhetoric, campaigns, and ideology also made its
conservative allies underestimate its strength .."
...
" .. Britain (from 1931 onwards under an overwhelmingly Conservative
government) had appeased pre-Nazi Germany."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
"Fascism had a strong base of support among the working classes and extremely
poor peasants. Other supports have included members of big business, farmers and
landowners, nationalists, and reactionaries, disaffected World War I veterans,
intellectuals such as Gabriele D'Annunzio, Curzio Malaparte, Filippo Tommaso
Marinetti, Carl Schmitt and Martin Heidegger, conservatives and small
businessmen."
...
"Italian Fascism took power with the blessing of Italy's king after years of
leftist-led unrest led many conservatives to fear that a communist revolution
was inevitable (Marxist philosopher Antonio Gramsci popularized the conception
that fascism was the Capital's response to the organized workers' movement)."
...
Throughout Europe, numerous aristocrats, conservative intellectuals,
capitalists and industrialists lent their support to fascist movements in their
countries that emulated Italian Fascism. In Germany, numerous right-wing
nationalist groups arose ...
...
Fascist movements like Rexism in Belgium and the Christian Social Party also
combined fascist and conservative populist Roman Catholic elements."
]
[
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal
[
Liberalism refers to a broad array of related doctrines, ideologies,
philosophical views, and political traditions which advocate individual liberty.
...
Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights. It seeks a society
characterized by freedom of thought for individuals, limitations on power
(especially of government and religion), the rule of law, the free exchange of
ideas, a market economy that supports free private enterprise, and a transparent
system of government in which the rights of all citizens are protected.
...
Liberalism rejected many foundational assumptions that dominated most earlier
theories of government, such as the Divine Right of Kings, hereditary status,
and established religion. Fundamental human rights that all liberals support
include the right to life, liberty, and property.
]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservativism
[
Conservatism is a relativistic term used to describe political philosophies that
favor traditional values, where "tradition" refers to religious, cultural, or
nationally defined beliefs and customs.
...
Some conservatives seek to preserve the status quo, while others seek to return
to the values of an earlier time, the status quo ante.
...
The prototype of a conservative society is the medieval manor where the majority
were serfs who lived under the authority of the "lords" and the Church. Such an
arrangement insulated itself from change. Conservatism has not produced, nor
does it tend to produce systematic treatises like Hobbes� Leviathan or Locke�s
Two Treatises of Government.
...
[
Scholar R.J. White once put it this way:
"To put conservatism in a bottle with a label is like trying to liquefy the
atmosphere � The difficulty arises from the nature of the thing. Conservatives
are people who live in the shroud of ignorance and darkness...."
]
...
Benjamin Disraeli, himself a member of the Conservative Party in England, wrote
in 1845, "A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy. The comment was
provoked when the Conservative Party split into two groups, based on whether or
not they would personally profit from the repeal of the corn laws"
...
In western democracies, 'conservative' and 'right-wing' are often used
interchangeably, as near-synonyms.
...
Religious conservatives seek to preserve the teachings of some particular
religion, sometimes by proclaiming the value of those teachings, at other times
seeking to have those teachings given the force of law.
...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
"Early support for the Nazis, displayed in various parades, came from the old
conservative order that was the military."
...
"... Nazism's populism, anti-Communism and anti-capitalism helped it become
more powerful and popular than traditional conservative parties."
...
"The simplicity of Nazi rhetoric, campaigns, and ideology also made its
conservative allies underestimate its strength .."
...
" .. Britain (from 1931 onwards under an overwhelmingly Conservative
government) had appeased pre-Nazi Germany."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
"Fascism had a strong base of support among the working classes and extremely
poor peasants. Other supports have included members of big business, farmers and
landowners, nationalists, and reactionaries, disaffected World War I veterans,
intellectuals such as Gabriele D'Annunzio, Curzio Malaparte, Filippo Tommaso
Marinetti, Carl Schmitt and Martin Heidegger, conservatives and small
businessmen."
...
"Italian Fascism took power with the blessing of Italy's king after years of
leftist-led unrest led many conservatives to fear that a communist revolution
was inevitable (Marxist philosopher Antonio Gramsci popularized the conception
that fascism was the Capital's response to the organized workers' movement)."
...
Throughout Europe, numerous aristocrats, conservative intellectuals,
capitalists and industrialists lent their support to fascist movements in their
countries that emulated Italian Fascism. In Germany, numerous right-wing
nationalist groups arose ...
...
Fascist movements like Rexism in Belgium and the Christian Social Party also
combined fascist and conservative populist Roman Catholic elements."
]
BTW, Found those "WMDs" yet?
The Bush Doctrine: Lie, lie some more, create ultimate disasters,
take vacation.
"You Have To Keep Repeating Things To Catapult The Propaganda". -
george w. bush on May 24 2005
"If you repeat a lie often enough, then it becomes a Bush policy."
SureShot Cheney is no Dan Quayle !!
[
Quotes: Family Guy: Peter
[Riding a circus elephant]
Peter: Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a
fat white guy who is threatened by change.
]
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different
results." - Albert Einstein
Found those "WMDs" yet?
--
Cliff
Joe788
> http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gM22IQrmZnGbPyby5g...
> [
> Incensed by the election of the first black US president, right-wing militia
> groups in the United States are rising again after a decade of decline,
> according to new research on extremist groups released on Wednesday.
>
> Ideologically driven by racism and a virulent anti-government, anti-taxation and
> anti-immigrant agenda, the homegrown groups that thrived in the 1990s and
> spurred numerous deadly terrorist attacks are expanding, said the Southern
> Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
>
> "This is the most significant growth we've seen in 10 to 12 years," said a law
> enforcement official quoted by the SPLC in its special report "The Second Wave:
> Return of the Militias."
>
> "All it's lacking is a spark," said the official, adding it is "only a matter of
> time before you see threats and violence."
>
> Attacks continued in the last decade after the 1995 bombing of a government
> building in Oklahoma, killing 168 people -- the deadliest domestic terrorist
> attack on US soil
> ....
> ]
Can you post a list of what constitutes a "right-wing militia"?
I like how they throw the Oklahoma bombing in there, as if it was
perpetrated by some "racist, right-wing militia". I guess people who
are stupid enough to believe it won't know or remember who/how that
bombing happened in the first place.
Cliff
>>"This is the most significant growth we've seen in 10 to 12 years," said a law
>>enforcement official quoted by the SPLC in its special report "The Second Wave:
>>Return of the Militias."
>>
>And as long as they are involved with lawful activities what is wrong
>with the right of free association? Is it the fact that they like to
>play dress-up that scares you?
Why should I care how wingers dress? It's a free country (if we can keep
it so from them)?
Cliff
>>"All it's lacking is a spark," said the official, adding it is "only a matter of
>>time before you see threats and violence."
>>
>You see threats all the time on both sides of the fence, not really
>anything new. Perhaps it is only a matter of time before the shit
>hits the fan, after all the left threw quite a bit of shit into it in
>the 60's & 70's prior to getting a better Public Relations Machine
>going.
And now you report to Vietnam. right?
--
Cliff
Cliff
>>Attacks continued in the last decade after the 1995 bombing of a government
>>building in Oklahoma, killing 168 people -- the deadliest domestic terrorist
>>attack on US soil
>>
>And exactly which attacks would those be? Are they any different then
>the attacks made by extreme left-wing organizations like the
>Weathermen, Black Panthers & Symbionese Liberation Army all of which
>committed bank robberies, murders and other acts of violence.
It's so nice to see you trying to justify crazed wingers.
Csn't you blame Clinton or poor little Monica?
--
Cliff
Gray Ghost
news:53e2b5c3-864a-461e...@o32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
Most of them are harmless. I've outwitted them numerous times.
However you haven't heard the word "nigger" until you hear one of those
slackjaws say it.
--
"Universal" American healthcare coverage, explained:
You get the "care" they approve for you, when they get around to it, if they
think your life is worth saving. And you'll pay for everyone's care, too,
whether or not they've paid in, whether or not they deem you valuable enough
to care for, 'cause they think your money is valuable enough to steal.
Scout
I have. I have also met or seen some of those black supremacist types. Just
as Mr Louis Farrakhan. Who is as much of a racist as any white supremacist I
ever met. It's just racism in a different direction, which I suppose is what
makes all the difference, because as long as it's white you are racist
against, then that's ok, and you can get to express your hate speech on
National TV.
> You'd be scared. They are a scary bunch.
Not really, I typically consider them a bunch of delusional nut cases, that
are nothing but talk.
> They are just as angry and
> mentally unstable as the inner city gang bangers are.
And yet when was the last time you saw any white supremist going around
murdering people, at anything like the numbers of the inner city gang
bangers?
> But for
> different reasons.
Sorry, but I've met with a number of militia groups over the years, and by
and large "white supremacist" isn't an applicable descriptor of the
membership. Indeed, most groups will actively deny or expel members driven
by such hate. So what does your rant against white supremacists have to do
with militia groups?
I will simply note the your response had nothing to do with the point I
brought up. Nor is your attempt at bigotry going to change that.
Scout
Heck, if you want pure unadulterated racism, just get hold of any speech by
Louis Farrakhan. Exceeds anything I ever heard from any white supremist, but
racism against whites probably doesn't count with liberal.
Cliff
>I already reported to Vietnam, and have the orders to prove it.
IOW It left you brainwashed by wingers.
You entirely missed the point.
--
Cliff
Cliff
>Well during that time Clinton was abroad learning how to be a good
>little Socialist, and Monica was suckling on teats not peckers.
I knew you could do it.
How did I know?
--
Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
>The real test of this President is yet to come, believe me, and I don't know
>if this administration is up to the tasks they will face.
??
What are you expecting?
Why?
--
Cliff
Lookout
wrote:
An absolutely asinine statement.
Lookout
Harriet Miers already is.
Cliff
>> News is out that Cheney may be squealing on bush.
>
>Harriet Miers already is.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/opinion/13thu2.html?em
Karnak sees jail time in some futures ...
--
Cliff
RBnDFW
I'm sure he meant they were going to turn the lights off in the Oval
Office :)
pyotr filipivich
Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:36:03 -0400 did write/type or cause to appear in
talk.politics.guns the following:
>On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:46:01 -0500, Fiftycal <n...@abcnnbcbs.com>
>wrote:
>>On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:00:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
>><nospam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>> And he's actually not doing too bad a job, all things considered, and that
>>>> drives the nut cases bat shit crazier.
>>>> John R. Carroll
>>>Not doing a bad job? What the hell has he done correctly?
>>Obammy is "black" (actually 1/2 black). That releases some of the
>>posters white guilt.
>Only half of it :)
Considering that Obama's daddy was Majority Arab heritage, that
relieves whites of even more. Don't forget the small minor detail,
that as a Kenyan, Obama's daddy was a Muslim from East Africa, the
majority of blacks in the US had been sold by Muslims from Western
Africa.
toodles
pyotr
-
pyotr filipivich
"Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "
Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD
(A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)
Cliff
wrote:
>Let the Record show that Zombywoof <Zomby...@cox.net> on or about
>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:36:03 -0400 did write/type or cause to appear in
>talk.politics.guns the following:
>>On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:46:01 -0500, Fiftycal <n...@abcnnbcbs.com>
>>wrote:
>>>On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:00:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
>>><nospam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>> And he's actually not doing too bad a job, all things considered, and that
>>>>> drives the nut cases bat shit crazier.
>>>>> John R. Carroll
>>>>Not doing a bad job? What the hell has he done correctly?
>>>Obammy is "black" (actually 1/2 black). That releases some of the
>>>posters white guilt.
>>Only half of it :)
>
> Considering that Obama's daddy was Majority Arab heritage, that
>relieves whites of even more. Don't forget the small minor detail,
>that as a Kenyan, Obama's daddy was a Muslim from East Africa, the
>majority of blacks in the US had been sold by Muslims from Western
>Africa.
Fat white guys loved them.
[
Quotes: Family Guy: Peter [Riding a circus elephant]
Peter: Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a
fat white guy who is threatened by change.
]
--
Cliff
Compact Adolescent
"Christopher Helms" <Chrish...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:51731437-c1d8-4bd0...@r18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 12, 6:17 pm, Cliff <Clhupr...@aol.com> wrote:
>> http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gM22IQrmZnGbPyby5g...
>> [
>> Incensed by the election of the first black US president, right-wing
>> militia
>> groups in the United States are rising again after a decade of decline,
>> according to new research on extremist groups released on Wednesday.
>>
The only ones upset with Obama's blackness are the libs. Bush and Cheney
had lots of blacks serving during their administration. Compare that to the
liberal administrations before that.
Gunner Asch
<Chrish...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>The Republicans are about one more electoral loss away from fitting
>the definition of a domestic insurrection. It should be noted that
>this outrage, manufactured or not, is almost exclusively white. It's
>white people stockpiling ammunition, disrupting town hall meetings,
>questioning Obama's birth certificate and joining militias. It's white
>people bitching about immigrants and demanding that walls be built,
>it's white people calling Obama a Marxist and it's white people who
>suddenly became "concerned" about the Constitution after eight years
>of Bush and Cheney using it to blow their noses and wipe their butts.
>A black guy is the president of the United States and I think that,
>all by itself, is driving a large portion of White America completely
>fucking crazy.
Oddly ehough..your racist and bigoty is noted with serious contempt.
Two of the local militia leaders in my area are black. Another is
latino.
The locak blue color bar where I go to listen to Mo-Town on Thursday
nights is black..and the vast majority of them hate the Obamassiah..the
few that support him keep very quiet.
We are living in interesting times. Ultimately the blacks will join the
whites in running the Latinos out of the US. That particular war has
been going on for at least 10 yrs..with Latinos advocating genocide.
Gunner Asch
>On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:00:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
><nospam...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>> And he's actually not doing too bad a job, all things considered, and that
>>> drives the nut cases bat shit crazier.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> John R. Carroll
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Not doing a bad job? What the hell has he done correctly?
>>
>
>Obammy is "black" (actually 1/2 black). That releases some of the
>posters white guilt.
Actually,,he is only 6% black
50% white, and 44% middle eastern.
That does NOT make him black.
Gunner Asch
<butterf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Didn't I read some where
>that the numbers of blacks who drop out of high school are fairly
>high
45%
1 in 3 black males have at least one felony conviction
75% of black children are born illegitimate.
They as a group of Americans..are not holding up their part of the
nation.
Well...1 in 3 did at least once....
Cliff
wrote:
Why are you xposting here?
--
Cliff
Cliff
wrote:
>1 in 3 black males have at least one felony conviction
>
>75% of black children are born illegitimate.
These are YOUR militia guys, right?
--
Cliff
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:53:21 -0500, Nicholas
><Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:50:05 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Helms
>><Chrish...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>That's a pretty big generalization. My issue with Obamination is
>>POLICY. How is he going to further fvck up my Medical Insurance, and
>>such. To me, his color is irrelevant, except as it influences HIS
>>prejudices.
>>
>As is most people objections. It has little to nothing to do with the
>color of his skin, but his thoughts & agendas which just may have been
>influenced by the color of his skin.
The only color he is that Im concerned about..is Red.
'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith
becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact
equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the
person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag,
the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the
English language.. and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people.'
Theodore Ro osevelt 1907
tv
I expect the GOP to increase their number of seats in both Houses in
the next election.
Nicholas
I would be also, were I in your financial situation. OTOH, I don't
have it so easy myself. I'm underwater already and headed for the
bottom ... as in 50,000 fathoms Under the Sea. It isn't pleasant
position to be in, as you know.
Kaptin Nemo
John R. Carroll
> tv wrote:
>
>> I expect the GOP to increase their number of seats in both Houses in
>> the next election.
>
> works out for you....
They probably will if history is any guide.
They are going to have to get off of the "crazy" pedal first, however.
LOL
--
John R. Carroll
Gunner Asch
<Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
My house is paid for, though not worth enough to take (and homesteaded),
Im paying on my property taxes a year at a time, my rolling stock is
paid for, I have few monthly bills other than cable and cell phone and
power, meds and water. I share internet with a neighbor (using wifi).
I spend $400 each week in work expenses. Truck, fuel, travel trailer
space rent, etc etc. So I have to come up with at minimum $1600 each
month just to work. That does NOT include my home expenses..which runs
another $1100 or so a month. So I have to come up with $2700 a month
just to bring in money.
To date..this year..Ive brought in right at $10k. 8th month...less than
$1500 a month. Now Ive been doing side work here and there, selling
some machinery etc etc. Add another $5k total. My year to date is less
than $16k.
With a $250,000 bill hanging over my head that the Leftards insist I
must pay off.
I could, could sell everything I own. Might bring up $75,000 total, and
leave me living out of a cardboard box. Then I could go on welfare,
live in Sec 8 housing and be making MORE money than I currently do. I
would simply add my medically challenged wife and we could be living
better than we do now. And Id still owe $150,000.000. But hey...I could
jump totally on the Leftard bandwagon, buy some dope, sit home in my
welfare housing and watch the tube all day.
And fuck of course. Lots of chicks to fuck in welfare housing.
Cool idea, no?
Gunner
Jeff M
> tv wrote:
>
>> I expect the GOP to increase their number of seats in both Houses in
>> the next election.
>
> for you....
Historically, that's what usually happens in off-year elections. The
minority party tends to gain some seats.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
>On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:06:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
>Pretty much. You just need to pull an Al Jolson.
Nope...they come in all colors. So I can simply stay white and go on
the dole and fuck my brains out and be much beloved by the Leftards
Gunner
Nicholas
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
As an idea, cool I guess. Not something I see happening in your Life
any time soon according to my crystal ball. Furthermore, you're to
antsy to sit around and *watch the tube all day.* You're like me in
that respect. Have to be doing =something= all the time, be it on the
computer, in the workshop, around the house, on the vehicle etc etc.
I just finished replacing some plumbing that was leaking. What a PITA
but somebody had to do it and we CAN'T afford a plumber.
Well I just hope I'm not fixing up my house for someone else, you
know. I owe more on it than its market value, which means I now have
ZERO equity in it. Very dangerous for me. These are dangerous times
we live in.
IMO, were your case and my case to go to court concerning our
financial situations, you would walk away in better condition that I
would. Just a hunch, if it ever came to that. I'm a bit jumpy and a
bit scared, but you know, that just means I'm paying attention ;-\
Nick
pyotr filipivich
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Sat, 15 Aug 2009
01:51:25 -0700 in misc.survivalism:
I do believe, than in the old South, home of the Democrats as I
recall, 6% (6.25% or 1/16. That is your grandparent's grand parent,
for those who went to a public school after the establishment of the
Department of Education as a cabinet position.) was enough to be
considered to have an Ethiopian in the fuel supply.
tschus
pyotr
-
pyotr filipivich.
Just about the time you finally see light at the end of the tunnel,
you find out it's a Government Project to build more tunnel.
pyotr filipivich
14:06:18 -0700 in misc.survivalism:
>
>I could, could sell everything I own. Might bring up $75,000 total, and
>leave me living out of a cardboard box. Then I could go on welfare,
>live in Sec 8 housing and be making MORE money than I currently do. I
>would simply add my medically challenged wife and we could be living
>better than we do now. And Id still owe $150,000.000. But hey...I could
>jump totally on the Leftard bandwagon, buy some dope, sit home in my
>welfare housing and watch the tube all day.
>
>And fuck of course. Lots of chicks to fuck in welfare housing.
That was about the only good thing of my SO getting pushed into
being a Welfare Queen - we didn't have to coordinate work schedules
any more .
>Cool idea, no?
Maybe .... B)
Christopher Helms
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:50:05 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Helms
>
>
> >The Republicans are about one more electoral loss away from fitting
> >the definition of a domestic insurrection.
>
> of patriots and tyrants.
> Thomas Jefferson
>
> >It should be noted that
> >this outrage, manufactured or not, is almost exclusively white.
>
> are dimorats.
You obviously haven't seen some of the signs the tea bagging rent-a-
mobbers have been carrying.
Christopher Helms
wrote:
> On Aug 12, 7:50 pm, Christopher Helms <Chrishelms...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 12, 6:17 pm, Cliff <Clhupr...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gM22IQrmZnGbPyby5g...
> > > [
> > > Incensed by the election of the first black US president, right-wing militia
> > > groups in the United States are rising again after a decade of decline,
> > > according to new research on extremist groups released on Wednesday.
>
> > > Ideologically driven by racism and a virulent anti-government, anti-taxation and
> > > anti-immigrant agenda, the homegrown groups that thrived in the 1990s and
> > > spurred numerous deadly terrorist attacks are expanding, said the Southern
> > > Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
>
> > > "This is the most significant growth we've seen in 10 to 12 years," said a law
> > > enforcement official quoted by the SPLC in its special report "The Second Wave:
> > > Return of the Militias."
>
> > > "All it's lacking is a spark," said the official, adding it is "only a matter of
> > > time before you see threats and violence."
>
> > > Attacks continued in the last decade after the 1995 bombing of a government
> > > building in Oklahoma, killing 168 people -- the deadliest domestic terrorist
> > > attack on US soil
> > > ....
> > > ]
>
> > this outrage, manufactured or not, is almost exclusively white. It's
> > white people stockpiling ammunition, disrupting town hall meetings,
> > questioning Obama's birth certificate and joining militias. It's white
> > people bitching about immigrants and demanding that walls be built,
> > it's white people calling Obama a Marxist and it's white people who
> > suddenly became "concerned" about the Constitution after eight years
> > of Bush and Cheney using it to blow their noses and wipe their butts.
> > A black guy is the president of the United States and I think that,
> > all by itself, is driving a large portion of White America completely
> > fucking crazy.
>
> militia types you claim are ready to commit insurrection. I don't
> support their agenda. And when they come for me. I'll be ready. Just
> as I'll be ready when the leftist Nazis come for me. How about you
> asshole, will you be ready? Or will you just roll over and die?
I don't consider life a war and I'm not arming myself to the teeth in
preparation for... whatever the hell it is you guys think is coming
for you.
John R. Carroll
Nothing.
That's the trend.
>we've never seen the minority party go batshit crazy like we
> are seeing now.
Jesus Christ, you just posted examples of exactly that.
--
John R. Carroll
Billary/2009
Actually I don't think ANYTHING is coming for me. At least not yet.
Trust me. You'll know when it happens. It'll resemble what happened in
Nazi Germany back in the 1930's. Or maybe it'll look like the race
riots of the 1960's, or the LA riots after Rodney King or the madness
after Hurricane Katrina. Until then, it's just a good idea to be
prepared. Few people remember that during the LA riots LIBERALS ran
out by the hundreds and emptied the gun store shelves of guns & ammo.
Don't wait, arm yourself now.
PLMerite
No, I haven't. Could you point me towards some photos ?
Regards, PLMerite
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Gunner Asch
Ayup..and at 12% Native American, Im eligible for some indian monies.
Id never take it..but Im twice as "minority" as the Obamassiah....yet
its not a big part of my makeup. Im American, not Ojibawa.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
<Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Well I just hope I'm not fixing up my house for someone else, you
>know. I owe more on it than its market value, which means I now have
>ZERO equity in it. Very dangerous for me. These are dangerous times
>we live in.
Have you considered consulting a firm and seeing about getting your
house revalued and the payments lowered? Its pretty common here in
California. The financiers dont much like it...but rather than moving
you out, and letting it rot and not making ANY money on it...they have
been dropping the values..and your payments.
Gunner
Gunner Asch
Good for you laddy boyo. Its your choice. Choose wisely.
You could go through life and never need a gun. Or you could need one 20
minutes from now.
Just keep in mind..that if you own one, and know how to use it..you are
100% better off than you are now. Cheap insurance.
Those that remain unarmed die early, or become the beasts pulling the
plow for those that are armed, when things turn to shit.
One also assumes you dont have a reasonably decent first aid kit, fire
extinguishers or smoke detectors in your domicile either. Correct?
Nicholas
<gun...@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:33:53 -0500, Nicholas
><Lawrence...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Well I just hope I'm not fixing up my house for someone else, you
>>know. I owe more on it than its market value, which means I now have
>>ZERO equity in it. Very dangerous for me. These are dangerous times
>>we live in.
>
>
>Have you considered consulting a firm and seeing about getting your
>house revalued and the payments lowered? Its pretty common here in
>California. The financiers dont much like it...but rather than moving
>you out, and letting it rot and not making ANY money on it...they have
>been dropping the values..and your payments.
>
>Gunner
I'm working on that right at this moment. I hope I have the Time to
get the job done to my advantage.
Nick
Gunner Asch
<BillaryCl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Few people remember that during the LA riots LIBERALS ran
>out by the hundreds and emptied the gun store shelves of guns & ammo.
>Don't wait, arm yourself now.
Actually...Liberals TRIED to empty the shelves. Because California has
a 15 day Waiting period...the vast majority of Liberals couldnt take
home any firearms. Just ammo.
I bought several Cases of shotgun shells from Libs who bought shells for
the guns they were trying to buy. Chuckle..after the riots died
down..they decided they didnt want the shotguns and got their money
back, but were stuck with the shells.
Crom but I love it when Libs shit in their hats.
Gunner Asch
Good luck to you.
I know a number of people who were sucessful.
They say the next round of foreclosures and evictions will happen around
April of the coming year. That will be a BIG BIG event..and millions
will be homeless.
Strabo
> tv wrote:
>
>> I expect the GOP to increase their number of seats in both Houses in
>> the next election.
>
>
> http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/article1027502.ece
>
> Why scientists are seldom Republicans
>
> By Robyn E. Blumner, Times Columnist
>
> Have you ever wondered what the world would be like without
> scientists?
>
> Ask the Republican Party.
>
> It lives in such a world.
>
And what a world it is!
Yes, the venerated Grand Old Party, host of the Military/Industrial
Complex, an imperialist consortage of reprobates in perennial
competition with the Democratic Party's Academic Agitprop circle jerk,
otherwise known as the Professorial Educator's Scam, masters of social
engineering, deceit, and brainwashing.
Scientists? Can there truly be a scientist among those who suckle at the
teats of Government Largese - nestled, snug and warm, cheek to jowl, in
the bristled shitty coat of Mother Hog, Queen of the Welfare Tribes?
Ever so eager to do the bidding of their Masters, what truth would such
a creature recognize other than the anus of his Fellow Traveler.
Nay, no scientist here, only the boorish of boars.
>
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