Obama: GET THE PEOPLE!!!

[Tracey12]

1. Force communist health care on them.

2. Use the IRS to impose Obama Care on the people.

3. Use drones to spy on the people.

4. Expand GW's Patriot Act to track the people.

5. Use the IRS to intimidate the people.

6. Use the DOJ to go after Fox News reporters.

7. Take as many guns from the people as possible.

Get the people and get them good.

[Tracey12]

Tracked movements via key card, traced calls, searched email...
FLASHBACK: Admin war on FOX...
REPORT: DOJ Leaked Docs to Smear Fast & Furious Whistleblower...
Administration's Two-Front War...
RNC Chief: Obama Creating 'Atomsphere of Guerilla Warfare'...
Congressman: Impeachment is an option...
'Richard Milhous Obama'...

[•RLMeasures]

In article
<e73134eb-075c-4a3f...@y5g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,

• zzzzzzzzzz

[Ron]

On May 20, 1:50 pm, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
> In article
> <e73134eb-075c-4a3f-9243-5940fa8fc...@y5g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,

>
> Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Tracked movements via key card, traced calls, searched email...
> > FLASHBACK: Admin war on FOX...
> > REPORT: DOJ Leaked Docs to Smear Fast & Furious Whistleblower...
> > Administration's Two-Front War...
> > RNC Chief: Obama Creating 'Atomsphere of Guerilla Warfare'...
> > Congressman: Impeachment is an option...
> > 'Richard Milhous Obama'...
>
> •  zzzzzzzzzz

YAAAAWN.......BELCH........FAAART...........

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On May 20, 1:50 pm, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
> In article
> <e73134eb-075c-4a3f-9243-5940fa8fc...@y5g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
>

> Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Tracked movements via key card, traced calls, searched email...
> > FLASHBACK: Admin war on FOX...
> > REPORT: DOJ Leaked Docs to Smear Fast & Furious Whistleblower...
> > Administration's Two-Front War...
> > RNC Chief: Obama Creating 'Atomsphere of Guerilla Warfare'...
> > Congressman: Impeachment is an option...
> > 'Richard Milhous Obama'...
>
> •  zzzzzzzzzz

Would you be zzzzzzzzzz'n if Bush was POTUS??

[Tracey12]

On May 20, 5:44 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> Right now, Obama is almost double in popularity than the GOP


You're counting chickens again. Hang on. This is going to take
months.
Each day, we find that it looks worse and worse for Obama and Hillary.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 20, 6:03 pm, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Each day, we find that it looks worse and worse for Obama and
Hillary.

Would you put your money where your fat mouth is?

Care to make a specific prediction, perhaps bet on it?

-Ramon

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On May 20, 3:32 pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 20, 1:50=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95RLMeasures) wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <e73134eb-075c-4a3f-9243-5940fa8fc...@y5g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Tracked movements via key card, traced calls, searched email...
> > > > FLASHBACK: Admin war on FOX...
> > > > REPORT: DOJ Leaked Docs to Smear Fast & Furious Whistleblower...
> > > > Administration's Two-Front War...
> > > > RNC Chief: Obama Creating 'Atomsphere of Guerilla Warfare'...
> > > > Congressman: Impeachment is an option...
> > > > 'Richard Milhous Obama'...
>

> > > =95 =A0zzzzzzzzzz

>
> > Would you be zzzzzzzzzz'n if Bush was POTUS?
>

> If i may butt it the conversation.
> I wouldn't zzzzzzzzzzzzz if W. was POTUS.
> war is more exciting than peace.
> Financial collapse is more exciting than recovery.
> Buffoonery in the White House is more interesting than competence.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If THAT'S the case, this Regime should be the most interesting in
recorded history.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On May 20, 5:44 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:13:58 -0700 (PDT), "Robert Westergrom,1900

>
> Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > FLASHBACK: Admin war on FOX...
> >> > REPORT: DOJ Leaked Docs to Smear Fast & Furious Whistleblower...
> >> > Administration's Two-Front War...
> >> > RNC Chief: Obama Creating 'Atomsphere of Guerilla Warfare'...
> >> > Congressman: Impeachment is an option...
> >> > 'Richard Milhous Obama'...
>
> >> •  zzzzzzzzzz
>
> >Would you be zzzzzzzzzz'n if Bush was POTUS??
>

> We can list a dozen things impeachable against bush
>
> However, any political party that uses the impeachment clause for
> purely POLITICAL reasons WILL lose.
>
> Like in 1998

>
> Right now, Obama is almost double in popularity than the GOP
>

> SNICKER

Cite?

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

Nothing will become of ANY scandal in the regime. Other than Obama
losing the full smokescreen cover and support of a few of his
slavering watercarriers in the MSM. The right will have plenty of ammo
to use against Hillary but it won't matter since over 50% of the
voters couldn't care less about corruption in government as long as
the get dat Obamaphone.

[joecoo...@hotmail.com]

Too bad for your sorry ass there isn't a shred of proof for any of those items, you pathetic clueless babbling fucking asshole moron LIAR.

[Tracey12]

BWAHAHAHA, DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE A NATURAL BORN COMEDIAN ?

[Tracey12]

On May 20, 6:42 pm, "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey
rd.,Wilmington,D.E"

> Nothing will become of ANY scandal in the regime. Other than Obama
> losing the full smokescreen cover and support of a few of his
> slavering watercarriers in the MSM. The right will have plenty of ammo
> to use against Hillary but it won't matter since over 50% of the
> voters couldn't care less about corruption in government as long as
> the get dat Obamaphone.

Obama only gives his followers 250 minutes per month on their
Obamaphones.

Hillary will promise another 250 minutes if you will vote for her.

[Harold Burton]

In article <qn9lp89ecv2eb1gp1...@4ax.com>,

Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:13:58 -0700 (PDT), "Robert Westergrom,1900

> Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > FLASHBACK: Admin war on FOX...
> >> > REPORT: DOJ Leaked Docs to Smear Fast & Furious Whistleblower...
> >> > Administration's Two-Front War...
> >> > RNC Chief: Obama Creating 'Atomsphere of Guerilla Warfare'...
> >> > Congressman: Impeachment is an option...
> >> > 'Richard Milhous Obama'...
> >>
> >> � �zzzzzzzzzz
> >
> >Would you be zzzzzzzzzz'n if Bush was POTUS??
>

> We can list a dozen things impeachable against bush

So do it.

Put them right here_________________________


laugh . . . laugh . . . laugh

[Harold Burton]

In article <u0qlp8pdvlbpeiqhe...@4ax.com>,
Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Mon, 20 May 2013 16:03:01 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
> <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On May 20, 5:44�pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >
> >> Right now, Obama is almost double in popularity than the GOP
> >
> >
> >You're counting chickens again. Hang on. This is going to take
> >months.
>

> And more tax dollars, and more tax dollars . . .


Thank you Obumbya.


Still waiting for you to list 12 impeachable Bush offenses.


snicker

[•RLMeasures]

In article
<3a605409-a9d1-404d...@e13g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,

"Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burto...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On May 20, 1:50=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95RLMeasures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <e73134eb-075c-4a3f-9243-5940fa8fc...@y5g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Tracked movements via key card, traced calls, searched email...
> > > FLASHBACK: Admin war on FOX...
> > > REPORT: DOJ Leaked Docs to Smear Fast & Furious Whistleblower...
> > > Administration's Two-Front War...
> > > RNC Chief: Obama Creating 'Atomsphere of Guerilla Warfare'...
> > > Congressman: Impeachment is an option...
> > > 'Richard Milhous Obama'...
> >

> > =95 =A0zzzzzzzzzz

>
> Would you be zzzzzzzzzz'n if Bush was POTUS??

• whar's that? Which Bush?

[Tracey12]

On May 20, 10:22 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> You did it just 15 years ago $200,000,000 spent---and not one credible
> thing did you find

If you lied to a federal grand jury what would be the penalty?

If you were a lawyer and you lied to a federal grand jury what would
be the penalty?

If you were president of the United States of America and an attorney
and you lied to a federal grand jury what would be the penalty?

Whatever we spent to remove Clinton corruption from the WH was worth
it.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On May 20, 10:22 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Mon, 20 May 2013 16:03:01 -0700 (PDT), Tracey12
>

> <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 20, 5:44 pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> >> Right now, Obama is almost double in popularity than the GOP
>
> >You're counting chickens again.  Hang on.  This is going to take
> >months.
>

> And more tax dollars, and more tax dollars---we know, ya dumb shit

>
> You did it just 15 years ago $200,000,000 spent---and not one credible
> thing did you find
>

> The republican party is taking it in the shorts
>
> You only do this kind of shit----when you're being kicked around

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

Not a PEEP from the 'Rats that spent $200 million+ going after a
baseball player for suspected use of 'Roids.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

That strategy would work in non-industrialized countries, where the
poor people are a large majority and decide the outcome of elections.
Venezuela is a perfect example.

One of the greatest (if not THE greatest) successes of the USA is its
economic composition:

- At the top we have a tiny percentage of very rich people

- At the bottom we have a tiny percentage of the poor.

- In the middle, we have a HUGE percentage of middle class (who
DECIDE every election and DO NOT get ObamaPhones)

You conscience clearly is bothering you, since just just attempted to
blame "the gifts" for the minorities supporting the Democrat party. Do
Asians get ObamaPhones? Do Jews? Do gays? Do young, single women? Does
the young people in general?

IT IS THE HATRED, STUPID!!

If you want to know the real reason, just look in a fuck*ng mirror.

-Ramon

The following consideration trumps everything else:

"Why should I vote for a party that hates me?"

[•RLMeasures]

In article
<d82d382b-1615-453c...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
Tracey12 <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:

• The problem in the Clinton Administration was suction, not corruption.

[George Kerby]

On 5/20/13 2:54 PM, in article
6e5645f7-f9b3-498d...@r3g2000yqe.googlegroups.com, "Ron"

Yep. You two dimwit dimocraps - doing what you do best, between waiting on
dem guvmint checks, eh?

Simply enlightening...

[George Kerby]

On 5/20/13 6:03 PM, in article
85a99eb1-051c-4673...@v14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com,

Yogurt cannot count beyond his fingers and toes. That's a 'Given'...

[George Kerby]

On 5/20/13 6:40 PM, in article
24f852ae-ea1b-4294...@d6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com, "Robert

Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burto...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yogurt's fantasy world...

[George Kerby]

On 5/20/13 8:38 PM, in article 20130520213855.728$o...@newsreader.com, "Denny"

<dzwe...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:

> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burto...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

>> On May 20, 5:44=A0pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>> On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:13:58 -0700 (PDT), "Robert Westergrom,1900
>>>
>>> Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> FLASHBACK: Admin war on FOX...
>>>>>> REPORT: DOJ Leaked Docs to Smear Fast & Furious Whistleblower...
>>>>>> Administration's Two-Front War...
>>>>>> RNC Chief: Obama Creating 'Atomsphere of Guerilla Warfare'...
>>>>>> Congressman: Impeachment is an option...
>>>>>> 'Richard Milhous Obama'...
>>>

>>>>> =95 =A0zzzzzzzzzz

>>>
>>>> Would you be zzzzzzzzzz'n if Bush was POTUS??
>>>
>>> We can list a dozen things impeachable against bush
>>>
>>> However, any political party that uses the impeachment clause for
>>> purely POLITICAL reasons WILL lose.
>>>
>>> Like in 1998
>>>
>>> Right now, Obama is almost double in popularity than the GOP
>>>
>>> SNICKER
>>
>> Cite?
>

> Regardless of the ratio, the President is rising and the Republicans are
> spiraling downward. The lack of outrage from the three "scandals"
> illustrate this. Just a prediction. And the looming Republican Civil War
> euthanize the patient.
>
> The rapidly changing public opinion of gay equality, legalization of
> marijuana, and support for gun regulation are telling. It seems like, in a
> way, the country is maturing, changing from adolescence to maturity. It
> seems to me that the dark old hateful days are fading away, and quickly.
> The Republican party will have to change a lot, or vanish.

Whistling past your graveyard again, Denny-boi?

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 21, 9:01 am, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:

> •  The problem in the Clinton Administration was suction, not
corruption.

"I have no idea how Monica was able to fit. Trust me: I have been down
there is there is not much space".

http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Not-Much-Room-for-Maneuver.jpg

- John-John Kennedy

(real quote, maybe not verbatim)

[•RLMeasures]

In article
<7942fde5-db27-4bb4...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, "Ramon
F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

> On May 21, 9:01=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> > =95 =A0The problem in the Clinton Administration was suction, not

> corruption.
>
> "I have no idea how Monica was able to fit. Trust me: I have been down
> there is there is not much space".
>
> http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Not-Much-Room-for-Maneuver.jpg
>
> - John-John Kennedy
>
> (real quote, maybe not verbatim)

• Able to fit what?

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 21, 9:58 am, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
> In article
> <7942fde5-db27-4bb4-b02a-e9d916848...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, "Ramon

Whatever John-John did, I suppose!

Monica did not have much room for maneuver, since she did not have the
little doggie door (which JFK ordered built) and JFK II faced the
FRONT of the desk, playing with photographers.

-RFH

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <cq6np8p07qjnfjao4...@4ax.com>,
<Yoor...@Jurgis.net> wrote:
...
>*************************************************************
>
>>� The problem in the Clinton Administration was suction, not corruption.
>
>"Problem"?
>
>A consensual blowjob from a lady surely can't be problematic to you,
>can it?

As I often say, it doesn't matter to sophisticated and educated types like
you and me, but it matters a lot to the man-on-the-street. I.e., the
typical Republican base voter don't know much about the economy or
politics, but he knows what a BJ is.

--
One of the best lines I've heard lately:

Obama could cure cancer tomorrow, and the Republicans would be
complaining that he had ruined the pharmaceutical business.

(Heard on Stephanie Miller = but the sad thing is that there is an awful lot
of direct truth in it. We've constructed an economy in which eliminating
cancer would be a horrible disaster. There are many other such examples.)

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On May 21, 11:24 am, gaze...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack)
wrote:

> In article <cq6np8p07qjnfjao4peeejl85v7asb1...@4ax.com>, <Yoorg...@Jurgis.net> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> >*************************************************************
>
> >>•  The problem in the Clinton Administration was suction, not corruption.
>
> >"Problem"?
>
> >A consensual blowjob from a lady surely can't be problematic to you,
> >can it?
>
> As I often say, it doesn't matter to sophisticated and educated types like
> you and me, but it matters a lot to the man-on-the-street.  I.e., the
> typical Republican base voter don't know much about the economy or
> politics, but he knows what a BJ is.
>
> --
> One of the best lines I've heard lately:
>
>     Obama could cure cancer tomorrow, and the Republicans would be
>     complaining that he had ruined the pharmaceutical business.
>

HUH ?? YOU MEAN HE CAN'T ??? OOOHHHHHH !! THE HUMANITY !!!!

> (Heard on Stephanie Miller = but the sad thing is that there is an awful lot
> of direct truth in it.  We've constructed an economy in which eliminating
> cancer would be a horrible disaster.  There are many other such examples.)

Smoking. If tobacco was as bad as liberal busy bodies say then why
isn' it banned from the U.S ? Wouldn't have anything to do with tax
revenue generated by the sale of tobacco products would it?

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On May 21, 11:56 am, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E" <burtonu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 21, 4:42=A0am, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > On May 20, 10:22=A0pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> > > > You did it just 15 years ago $200,000,000 spent---and not one
> > > > credible thing did you find
>
> > > If you lied to a federal grand jury what would be the penalty?
>
> > > If you were a lawyer and you lied to a federal grand jury what would
> > > be the penalty?
>
> > > If you were president of the United States of America and an attorney
> > > and you lied to a federal grand jury what would be the penalty?
>
> > > Whatever we spent to remove Clinton corruption from the WH was worth
> > > it.
>
> > Not a PEEP from the 'Rats that spent $200 million+ going after a
> > baseball player for suspected use of 'Roids.
>

> PPEP! That creep belongs in prison. Anyways, you bust guys like that for
> the same reason you bust white-collar criminals: To keep the other creeps
> from getting ideas.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

And Obama is setting a good exampe for future politicians. If you
weren't born black at least spray paint yourself black, run on
hope&change, promise to spread somebody else's wealth, getting back at
whitey and you're not only a shoe in for the LIV entitlement crowd
you're immune to criticism and the rule of law.

[George Kerby]

On 5/21/13 12:47 PM, in article 20130521134749.138$w...@newsreader.com,
"Denny" <dzwe...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:

> YOU CHEATED!

Just like a DemoCrap Pimp that you are when you're girls aren't paying off.
You stomp your feet and start crying, and they snicker at you.

Go find another way to produce income: Pimping is NOT for you, Denny-Boi.

[Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E]

On May 21, 12:47 pm, dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:
> George Kerby <ghost_top...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On 5/20/13 8:38 PM, in article 20130520213855.728...@newsreader.com,

> > "Denny" <dzweib...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Robert Westergrom,1900 Harvey rd.,Wilmington,D.E"

> YOU CHEATED! I used the same line on you a couple of weeks ago. I'ts nice
> that you are gaining a bit of wisdom from my efforts, a very small bit.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

[•RLMeasures]

In article
<ca631590-d2a5-40b1...@n11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,

"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

> On May 21, 9:58=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95RLMeasures) wrote:
> > In article

> > <7942fde5-db27-4bb4-b02a-e9d916848...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, "Ramo=

> n
> >
> > F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

> > > On May 21, 9:01=3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D95RLMeasures) wrote:
> >
> > > =A0> =3D95 =3DA0The problem in the Clinton Administration was suction, =

> not
> > > corruption.
> >
> > > "I have no idea how Monica was able to fit. Trust me: I have been down
> > > there is there is not much space".
> >

> > > =A0http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Not-Much-Room-for-Maneuver.jpg

> >
> > > - John-John Kennedy
> >
> > > (real quote, maybe not verbatim)
> >
>

> > =95 =A0Able to fit what?

>
> Whatever John-John did, I suppose!
>
> Monica did not have much room for maneuver, since she did not have the
> little doggie door (which JFK ordered built) and JFK II faced the
> FRONT of the desk, playing with photographers.
>

• JFK was apparently boning women like Judith Exner and Norma Jean Baker
when John-John and Caroline were napping.

[•RLMeasures]

In article <cq6np8p07qjnfjao4...@4ax.com>,
Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Tue, 21 May 2013 07:01:54 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><d82d382b-1615-453c...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> >Tracey12 <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On May 20, 10:22=A0pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >>
> >> > You did it just 15 years ago $200,000,000 spent---and not one credible
> >> > thing did you find
>

> For the TraceyLoon:

>
> >> If you lied to a federal grand jury what would be the penalty?
>

> Well, Raygun got proven a perjuer. Clinton did not lie---and was
> never charged or convicted of perjury. His denial of a "DEFINITION"
> was accepted and he won the Jones Civil Suit

• In hindsight Bill Clinton would have fared better to have instead said
I did not have Coitus with that woman, Monica Lewinsky since Bill's semen
deposit on the blue dress proves it beyond a shadow of doubt.
>
> That same "denial" was reversed because he "settled" instead of
> "re-winning" (which he would have). When he settled, the "denial"
> became "inoperative" and therefore FORCED Judge Wright to FINE him.
>
> Filing a "false declaration" is no a felony.
> (and NOT an "impeachable offense like Raygun's subversion of govt and
> Perjury)

>
> >> If you were a lawyer and you lied to a federal grand jury what would
> >> be the penalty?
>

> He didn't. I just explained it.

>
> >> If you were president of the United States of America and an attorney
> >> and you lied to a federal grand jury what would be the penalty?
>

> He didn't. So the Judge awarded him the Judgment in the Jones Civil
> Action.
>
> The testimony never changed, which shoots down your inept, ignorant
> beliefs

>
> >> Whatever we spent to remove Clinton corruption from the WH was worth
> >> it.
>

> Not one shred of credible, provable, sourced (first hand) evidence
> EVER was produced to suggest Clinton was "corrupt"
>
> What he was, However---was the most efficient righwing ass-kicker
> since FDR and/or Kennedy
>
> *************************************************************

>
> >• The problem in the Clinton Administration was suction, not corruption.
>

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On May 21, 3:21 pm, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
> In article

> <ca631590-d2a5-40b1-a62b-87defba98...@n11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,

Apparently!??? LOL. That is matter of public record (*).

The lady who *really* got in trouble was Mary Pinchot Meyer:

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKmeyerM.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_American_Affair
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0899138/
http://fringe.devhub.com/blog/498244-mary-pinchot-meyer/

-Ramon

(*) Not making any statement about the napping part or the children
being nearby.

[the wharf rat]

In article <5290e9c6-547c-4106...@w13g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,

Ramon F. Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>

> - In the middle, we have a HUGE percentage of middle class (who
>DECIDE every election and DO NOT get ObamaPhones)
>

Not anymore.

[Mike Smith]

On 21 May 2013 23:29:14 GMT, dzwe...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:

>Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 13:21:14 -0700, r...@somis.org (�RLMeasures) wrote:
>>
>> >> Monica did not have much room for maneuver, since she did not have the
>> >> little doggie door (which JFK ordered built) and JFK II faced the
>> >> FRONT of the desk, playing with photographers.
>> >>
>> >� JFK was apparently boning women like Judith Exner and Norma Jean
>> >Baker when John-John and Caroline were napping.
>>

>> Proving that our decent American presidents were also "lusty"
>>
>> That isn't an impeachable thing---it's something they'll have to
>> figure out how to explain it to that "higher power" so enamored by the
>> rightwing.
>
>I wish everyone would ignore personal details about political figures. I
>don't care about their sex lives, or drinking, or being a Walker.

Of course. You are a liberal. Just because someone is immoral in their
personal lives does not mean they will be immoral in their public
lives. You liberals are stupid in that way of thinking.

Mike Smith

[Vandar]

On 5/21/2013 12:20 PM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Tue, 21 May 2013 07:01:54 -0700, r...@somis.org (�RLMeasures) wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <d82d382b-1615-453c...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
>> Tracey12 <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On May 20, 10:22=A0pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> You did it just 15 years ago $200,000,000 spent---and not one credible
>>>> thing did you find
>
> For the TraceyLoon:
>
>>> If you lied to a federal grand jury what would be the penalty?
>
> Well, Raygun got proven a perjuer.

No he didn't. He was cleared by the Tower Commission.

> Clinton did not lie

Yes he did. He admitted it.
"I tried to walk a fine line between acting lawfully and testifying
falsely, but I now recognize that I did not fully accomplish that goal
and that certain of my responses to questions about Ms Lewinsky were
false." - Bill Clinton, on his last day in office.

> ---and was
> never charged or convicted of perjury. His denial of a "DEFINITION"
> was accepted and he won the Jones Civil Suit
>

> That same "denial" was reversed because he "settled" instead of
> "re-winning" (which he would have). When he settled, the "denial"
> became "inoperative" and therefore FORCED Judge Wright to FINE him.

"Simply put, the president's deposition testimony regarding whether he
had ever been alone with Ms. Lewinsky was intentionally false, and his
statements regarding whether he had ever engaged in sexual relations
with Ms. Lewinsky likewise were intentionally false, notwithstanding
tortured definitions and interpretations of the term 'sexual relations"
- Judge Wright

[Vandar]

On 5/21/2013 5:55 PM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Tue, 21 May 2013 13:27:31 -0700, r...@somis.org (�RLMeasures) wrote:
>
>> In article <cq6np8p07qjnfjao4...@4ax.com>,
>> Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>

>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 07:01:54 -0700, r...@somis.org (�RLMeasures) wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article
>>>> <d82d382b-1615-453c...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> Tracey12 <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On May 20, 10:22=A0pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You did it just 15 years ago $200,000,000 spent---and not one credible
>>>>>> thing did you find
>>>
>>> For the TraceyLoon:
>>>
>>>>> If you lied to a federal grand jury what would be the penalty?
>>>
>>> Well, Raygun got proven a perjuer. Clinton did not lie---and was
>>> never charged or convicted of perjury. His denial of a "DEFINITION"
>>> was accepted and he won the Jones Civil Suit
>>

>> � In hindsight Bill Clinton would have fared better to have instead said

>> I did not have Coitus with that woman, Monica Lewinsky since Bill's semen
>> deposit on the blue dress proves it beyond a shadow of doubt.
>

> No, that's not a correct conclusion
>
> That only is relevant IF Jones atty's would have used the ACCEPTED
> Legal definition of "sexual relations"
>
> Jones INSISTED on using THEIR definition of "sexual relations"
>
> When Wright cautioned them----Jones atty's said "no" we want OUR
> defintion.
>
> That gave Clinton the RIGHT to deny it---without penalty.
>
> That's why Clinton won---Jones had NO evidence or testimony that
> proved anything. (including the dress)
>
> The "Dress" only proved they "Had sex"
>
> "Having sex" is NOT the accepted LEgal definition of "sexual
> intercourse" and WRight ruled correctly
>
> When Clinton CHOSE to settle (instead of spending $2-4 million to
> "Re-WIN"----he didn't give jones what she really wanted---(civil
> actions are limited to money) She wanted a admission ( of what?)
>
> When he settled, THAT made the Jones definition automatically become
> "legal" and THAT is why Wright was forced to "fine him"
>
> Had he chose to Re-Win----He could not have been touched.......at all.

You are quite wrong.
Clinton testified in the Jones deposition that he had never been alone
with Lewinsky.
He then testified before the Grand Jury that he had been alone with
Lewinsky numerous times.

That's all it took. That's contempt. It has nothing to do with the
definition of sexual relations and Judge Wright even went so far as to
say exactly that in her ruling of contempt against him.

[•RLMeasures]

In article
<ac523e22-5859-4154...@h13g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,

"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

> On May 21, 3:21=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95RLMeasures) wrote:
> > In article

> > <ca631590-d2a5-40b1-a62b-87defba98...@n11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On May 21, 9:58=3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D95RLMeasures) wrote:
> > > > In article

> > > > <7942fde5-db27-4bb4-b02a-e9d916848...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, "=
> Ramo=3D

> > > n
> >
> > > > F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

> > > > > On May 21, 9:01=3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D95RLMeasures) wrote:
> >
> > > > > =3DA0> =3D3D95 =3D3DA0The problem in the Clinton Administration was=
> suction, =3D
> > > not
> > > > > corruption.
> >
> > > > > "I have no idea how Monica was able to fit. Trust me: I have been d=

> own
> > > > > there is there is not much space".
> >

> > > > > =3DA0http://patriot.net/~ramon/misc/Not-Much-Room-for-Maneuver.jpg

> >
> > > > > - John-John Kennedy
> >
> > > > > (real quote, maybe not verbatim)
> >

> > > =A0> =3D95 =3DA0Able to fit what?

> >
> > > Whatever John-John did, I suppose!
> >
> > > Monica did not have much room for maneuver, since she did not have the
> > > little doggie door (which JFK ordered built) and JFK II faced the
> > > FRONT of the desk, playing with photographers.
> >
>

> > =95 =A0JFK was apparently boning women like Judith Exner and

> > Norma Jean Baker when John-John and Caroline were napping.
>
> Apparently!??? LOL. That is matter of public record (*).

*** When the children were napping is fluff.

[•RLMeasures]

In article <vsqnp8lj75fh37sch...@4ax.com>,

Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Tue, 21 May 2013 13:21:14 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>

> >> Monica did not have much room for maneuver, since she did not have the
> >> little doggie door (which JFK ordered built) and JFK II faced the
> >> FRONT of the desk, playing with photographers.
> >>
> >• JFK was apparently boning women like Judith Exner and Norma Jean Baker
> >when John-John and Caroline were napping.
>

> Proving that our decent American presidents were also "lusty"

• Coitus with famous men is to be expected of seductive women. That's
their mission here.

>
> That isn't an impeachable thing---it's something they'll have to
> figure out how to explain it to that "higher power" so enamored by the
> rightwing.

• Righties seem to be more enamored with cute guys. Different strokes
for different folks -- not that there's anything wrong with that.

[•RLMeasures]

In article <20rnp8ld4r655kv5i...@4ax.com>,
Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> On Tue, 21 May 2013 13:27:31 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >In article <cq6np8p07qjnfjao4...@4ax.com>,
> >Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 21 May 2013 07:01:54 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article
> >> ><d82d382b-1615-453c...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
> >> >Tracey12 <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On May 20, 10:22=A0pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > You did it just 15 years ago $200,000,000 spent---and not one credible
> >> >> > thing did you find
> >>
> >> For the TraceyLoon:
> >>
> >> >> If you lied to a federal grand jury what would be the penalty?
> >>
> >> Well, Raygun got proven a perjuer. Clinton did not lie---and was
> >> never charged or convicted of perjury. His denial of a "DEFINITION"
> >> was accepted and he won the Jones Civil Suit
> >
> >• In hindsight Bill Clinton would have fared better to have instead said
> >I did not have Coitus with that woman, Monica Lewinsky since Bill's semen
> >deposit on the blue dress proves it beyond a shadow of doubt.
>

> No, that's not a correct conclusion

• sexual relations could men licking the lotus stamen or getting a knob
job. The word Coitus narrows it down to a penis in a vagina..

>
> That only is relevant IF Jones atty's would have used the ACCEPTED
> Legal definition of "sexual relations"
>
> Jones INSISTED on using THEIR definition of "sexual relations"
>
> When Wright cautioned them----Jones atty's said "no" we want OUR
> defintion.
>
> That gave Clinton the RIGHT to deny it---without penalty.
>
> That's why Clinton won---Jones had NO evidence or testimony that
> proved anything. (including the dress)
>
> The "Dress" only proved they "Had sex"
>
> "Having sex" is NOT the accepted LEgal definition of "sexual
> intercourse" and WRight ruled correctly
>
> When Clinton CHOSE to settle (instead of spending $2-4 million to
> "Re-WIN"----he didn't give jones what she really wanted---(civil
> actions are limited to money) She wanted a admission ( of what?)
>
> When he settled, THAT made the Jones definition automatically become
> "legal" and THAT is why Wright was forced to "fine him"
>
> Had he chose to Re-Win----He could not have been touched.......at all.
>

> >> That same "denial" was reversed because he "settled" instead of
> >> "re-winning" (which he would have). When he settled, the "denial"
> >> became "inoperative" and therefore FORCED Judge Wright to FINE him.
> >>

> >> Filing a "false declaration" is not a felony.

[•RLMeasures]

In article <20130521192914.980$i...@newsreader.com>,

dzwe...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:

> Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

> > On Tue, 21 May 2013 13:21:14 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
> >
> > >> Monica did not have much room for maneuver, since she did not have the
> > >> little doggie door (which JFK ordered built) and JFK II faced the
> > >> FRONT of the desk, playing with photographers.
> > >>
> > >• JFK was apparently boning women like Judith Exner and Norma Jean
> > >Baker when John-John and Caroline were napping.
> >

> > Proving that our decent American presidents were also "lusty"
> >

> > That isn't an impeachable thing---it's something they'll have to
> > figure out how to explain it to that "higher power" so enamored by the
> > rightwing.
>

> I wish everyone would ignore personal details about political figures. I
> don't care about their sex lives, or drinking, or being a Walker.

• who is forcing you to read this stuff?

[George Kerby]

On 5/22/13 6:29 AM, in article 3uapp8hkt9f4shjb4...@4ax.com,

And he has to have his *son* tell him just what "sex" is.

Denny-boi cannot 'think': The Cerebral Cortex dissolved long ago...

[George Kerby]

On 5/22/13 12:36 PM, in article 20130522133654.197$Z...@newsreader.com,
"Denny" <dzwe...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:

> Aw my point failed. Sophisticated satire has no place here. I'm wasting my
> time here. Pearls before swine.

You know about 'Pearl Necklaces', eh?!?

[George Kerby]

On 5/22/13 1:48 PM, in article r-2205131...@10.0.1.3, "•RLMeasures"

*You wanna tell us about Barney Frankfurter then? Perhaps R.I.'s David
Cicilline? How about Jared Polis of Colorado?!?

Hmmmmmm?!?

*Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[George Kerby]

On 5/22/13 1:54 PM, in article r-2205131...@10.0.1.3, "•RLMeasures"

<r...@somis.org> wrote:

> In article <20rnp8ld4r655kv5i...@4ax.com>,
> Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 13:27:31 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>>
>>> In article <cq6np8p07qjnfjao4...@4ax.com>,
>>> Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 07:01:54 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <d82d382b-1615-453c...@v9g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> Tracey12 <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 20, 10:22=A0pm, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You did it just 15 years ago $200,000,000 spent---and not one credible
>>>>>>> thing did you find
>>>>
>>>> For the TraceyLoon:
>>>>
>>>>>> If you lied to a federal grand jury what would be the penalty?
>>>>
>>>> Well, Raygun got proven a perjuer. Clinton did not lie---and was
>>>> never charged or convicted of perjury. His denial of a "DEFINITION"
>>>> was accepted and he won the Jones Civil Suit
>>>
>>> • In hindsight Bill Clinton would have fared better to have instead said
>>> I did not have Coitus with that woman, Monica Lewinsky since Bill's semen
>>> deposit on the blue dress proves it beyond a shadow of doubt.
>>
>> No, that's not a correct conclusion
>
> • sexual relations could men licking the lotus stamen or getting a knob
> job.

Your fear of your partner going all "Bobbitt" on you cause that Freudian
Slip above, Measures?

[George Kerby]

On 5/22/13 1:55 PM, in article r-2205131...@10.0.1.3, "•RLMeasures"

You were not paying attention? His son, of course.

[•RLMeasures]

In article <20130522150557.766$y...@newsreader.com>,
dzwe...@REMOVEyahoo.com (Denny) wrote:

> It's my patriotic duty. To enlighten and entertain.

• chortle

[•RLMeasures]

In article <CDC29323.9C2A3%ghost_...@hotmail.com>, George Kerby

• I do not know them.

[•RLMeasures]

In article <CDC293C4.9C2A5%ghost_...@hotmail.com>, George Kerby

• Some of it stuck to her slip as well as the blue dress?

[•RLMeasures]

In article <CDC293F4.9C2A6%ghost_...@hotmail.com>, George Kerby

• _____