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Re: Covid 19 Deaths In The USA
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Bradley K. Sherman
Jan 1, 2024, 7:15:32 AMJan 1
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2020
29 Feb 1 (+ 1)
31 Mar 5,210 (+ 5,209)
30 Apr 65,240 (+60,030)
31 May 108,859 (+43,619)
30 Jun 130,448 (+21,581)
31 Jul 157,392 (+26,944)
31 Aug 188,119 (+30,727)
30 Sep 212,088 (+23,969)
31 Oct 236,421 (+24,333)
30 Nov 274,300 (+37,879)
31 Dec 354,215 (+79,915)
2021
31 Jan 452,279 (+98,064)
28 Feb 525,778 (+73,499)
31 Mar 565,256 (+39,478)
30 Apr 592,164 (+26,908)
31 May 609,898 (+17,734)
30 Jun 620,249 (+10,351)
31 Jul 629,315 (+ 9,066)
31 Aug 657,910 (+28,595)
30 Sep 716,847 (+58,937)
31 Oct 766,299 (+49,452)
30 Nov 803,045 (+36,746)
31 Dec 846,905 (+43,860)
2022
31 Jan 910,104 (+63,199)
28 Feb 975,150 (+65,046)
31 Mar 1,007,320 (+32,170)
30 Apr 1,020,833 (+13,513)
31 May 1,031,613 (+10,780)
30 Jun 1,042,678 (+11,065)
31 Jul 1,055,059 (+12,381)
31 Aug 1,071,420 (+16,361)
30 Sep 1,084,803 (+13,383)
31 Oct 1,095,315 (+10,512)
30 Nov 1,105,546 (+10,231)
31 Dec 1,117,983 (+12,437)
2023
31 Jan 1,132,935 (+14,952)
28 Feb 1,145,661 (+12,726)
31 Mar 1,155,069 (+ 9,408)
30 Apr 1,159,839 (+ 4,770)
31 May 1,165,449 (+ 5,610)
30 Jun 1,168,148 (+ 2,699)
31 Jul 1,169,813 (+ 1,665)
31 Aug 1,173,655 (+ 3,842)
30 Sep 1,176,843 (+ 3,188)
31 Oct 1,180,669 (+ 3,826)
30 Nov 1,183,754 (+ 3,085)
31 Dec 1,190,171 (+ 6,417)
<https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
--bks
29 Feb 1 (+ 1)
31 Mar 5,210 (+ 5,209)
30 Apr 65,240 (+60,030)
31 May 108,859 (+43,619)
30 Jun 130,448 (+21,581)
31 Jul 157,392 (+26,944)
31 Aug 188,119 (+30,727)
30 Sep 212,088 (+23,969)
31 Oct 236,421 (+24,333)
30 Nov 274,300 (+37,879)
31 Dec 354,215 (+79,915)
2021
31 Jan 452,279 (+98,064)
28 Feb 525,778 (+73,499)
31 Mar 565,256 (+39,478)
30 Apr 592,164 (+26,908)
31 May 609,898 (+17,734)
30 Jun 620,249 (+10,351)
31 Jul 629,315 (+ 9,066)
31 Aug 657,910 (+28,595)
30 Sep 716,847 (+58,937)
31 Oct 766,299 (+49,452)
30 Nov 803,045 (+36,746)
31 Dec 846,905 (+43,860)
2022
31 Jan 910,104 (+63,199)
28 Feb 975,150 (+65,046)
31 Mar 1,007,320 (+32,170)
30 Apr 1,020,833 (+13,513)
31 May 1,031,613 (+10,780)
30 Jun 1,042,678 (+11,065)
31 Jul 1,055,059 (+12,381)
31 Aug 1,071,420 (+16,361)
30 Sep 1,084,803 (+13,383)
31 Oct 1,095,315 (+10,512)
30 Nov 1,105,546 (+10,231)
31 Dec 1,117,983 (+12,437)
2023
31 Jan 1,132,935 (+14,952)
28 Feb 1,145,661 (+12,726)
31 Mar 1,155,069 (+ 9,408)
30 Apr 1,159,839 (+ 4,770)
31 May 1,165,449 (+ 5,610)
30 Jun 1,168,148 (+ 2,699)
31 Jul 1,169,813 (+ 1,665)
31 Aug 1,173,655 (+ 3,842)
30 Sep 1,176,843 (+ 3,188)
31 Oct 1,180,669 (+ 3,826)
30 Nov 1,183,754 (+ 3,085)
31 Dec 1,190,171 (+ 6,417)
<https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
--bks
-hh
Jan 1, 2024, 8:46:22 AMJan 1
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at Public Health initiatives particularly after the initial onslaught. One gets:
Worst (#1): Arizona (AZ)
#2: West Virginia (WV)
#3: MS
#4: TN
#5: NM
#6: AR
#7: MI
#8: FL
#9: AR
#10: KY
Golly, that’s a lot of Red “Shithole” States at the top of the worst.
-hh
Mitchell Holman
Jan 1, 2024, 10:07:57 AMJan 1
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-hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote in
news:75c9a31c-c8af-41ae...@googlegroups.com:
Watch this space for the usual
"it's all be cause of their blacks"
and "it's all because of Biden's
open border"
news:75c9a31c-c8af-41ae...@googlegroups.com:
"it's all be cause of their blacks"
and "it's all because of Biden's
open border"
NoBody
Jan 1, 2024, 10:40:05 AMJan 1
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On 1 Jan 2024 12:15:28 -0000, b...@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
wrote:
Is this "with Covid" or "from Covid".
Oh and you left out the recovered numbers which is 99%,
Typical lying liberal.
wrote:
Oh and you left out the recovered numbers which is 99%,
Typical lying liberal.
Bradley K. Sherman
Jan 1, 2024, 10:53:45 AMJan 1
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Kremlin Girl <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> ...
From Covid.
--bks
> ...
>>2023
>> 31 Jan 1,132,935 (+14,952)
>> 28 Feb 1,145,661 (+12,726)
>> 31 Mar 1,155,069 (+ 9,408)
>> 30 Apr 1,159,839 (+ 4,770)
>> 31 May 1,165,449 (+ 5,610)
>> 30 Jun 1,168,148 (+ 2,699)
>> 31 Jul 1,169,813 (+ 1,665)
>> 31 Aug 1,173,655 (+ 3,842)
>> 30 Sep 1,176,843 (+ 3,188)
>> 31 Oct 1,180,669 (+ 3,826)
>> 30 Nov 1,183,754 (+ 3,085)
>> 31 Dec 1,190,171 (+ 6,417)
>>
>><https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
> ...
>> 31 Jan 1,132,935 (+14,952)
>> 28 Feb 1,145,661 (+12,726)
>> 31 Mar 1,155,069 (+ 9,408)
>> 30 Apr 1,159,839 (+ 4,770)
>> 31 May 1,165,449 (+ 5,610)
>> 30 Jun 1,168,148 (+ 2,699)
>> 31 Jul 1,169,813 (+ 1,665)
>> 31 Aug 1,173,655 (+ 3,842)
>> 30 Sep 1,176,843 (+ 3,188)
>> 31 Oct 1,180,669 (+ 3,826)
>> 30 Nov 1,183,754 (+ 3,085)
>> 31 Dec 1,190,171 (+ 6,417)
>>
>><https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
>Is this "with Covid" or "from Covid".
> ...
From Covid.
--bks
ELON X.
Jan 1, 2024, 11:48:50 AMJan 1
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>> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 7:15:32ƒ îAM UTC-5, Bradley K. Sherman
>> Golly, thatƒ Ts a lot of Red ƒ oShitholeƒ States at the top of the
by fucking around with the reporting. It's how they save lives in
Floriduh and same way they deal with climate change pertaining to property
at risk of being flooded.
>> worst.
>>
>
>
> Watch this space for the usual
>"it's all be cause of their blacks"
>and "it's all because of Biden's
>open border"
>
Good ole fat Ronnie D in Floriduh simply tries to hide the correct numbers
>>
>
>
> Watch this space for the usual
>"it's all be cause of their blacks"
>and "it's all because of Biden's
>open border"
>
by fucking around with the reporting. It's how they save lives in
Floriduh and same way they deal with climate change pertaining to property
at risk of being flooded.
-hh
Jan 1, 2024, 11:56:26 AMJan 1
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grandparents if they laughed that off, or ask your parents
if they spurned you getting the Polio vaccine.
-hh
-hh
Jan 1, 2024, 12:00:38 PMJan 1
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On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 11:48:50 AM UTC-5, ELON X. wrote:
> >> Golly, thatƒ Ts a lot of Red"Shithole" States at the top of the
in FL such as by cooking the reporting books, but also on how he's probably
getting kickbacks from the corrupt cottage industry of P&C Insurance fraud
that's been running rampant in Florida: in a healthy market, you just don't see
rates don't double within three years when there's not yet been any corresponding
increase in the rate of hurricane landings.
-hh
> >> worst.
> >
> > Watch this space for the usual
> >"it's all be cause of their blacks"
> >and "it's all because of Biden's
> >open border"
> >
> Good ole fat Ronnie D in Floriduh simply tries to hide the correct numbers
> by fucking around with the reporting. It's how they save lives in
> Floriduh and same way they deal with climate change pertaining to property
> at risk of being flooded.
DeSantis is such a crooked, lying toad. Not only for his coverup on CoVid19
> >
> > Watch this space for the usual
> >"it's all be cause of their blacks"
> >and "it's all because of Biden's
> >open border"
> >
> Good ole fat Ronnie D in Floriduh simply tries to hide the correct numbers
> by fucking around with the reporting. It's how they save lives in
> Floriduh and same way they deal with climate change pertaining to property
> at risk of being flooded.
in FL such as by cooking the reporting books, but also on how he's probably
getting kickbacks from the corrupt cottage industry of P&C Insurance fraud
that's been running rampant in Florida: in a healthy market, you just don't see
rates don't double within three years when there's not yet been any corresponding
increase in the rate of hurricane landings.
-hh
Johnny
Jan 1, 2024, 12:02:27 PMJan 1
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Josh Rosenbluth
Jan 1, 2024, 12:16:07 PMJan 1
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On 1/1/2024 9:02 AM, Johnny wrote:
{snip}
> The polio vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine didn't.
The latter did not eradicate COVID. But, it enabled us to get our lives
back to normal. After the vaccine came out, red state death rates (where
the vaccine was less adopted) were higher than blue-state death rates.
https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
{snip}
> The polio vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine didn't.
back to normal. After the vaccine came out, red state death rates (where
the vaccine was less adopted) were higher than blue-state death rates.
https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
Johnny
Jan 1, 2024, 12:27:31 PMJan 1
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cotton masks will not even slow down a virus. People were totally
dependent on that vaccine, and it didn't work.
The people that sold masks got rich.
-hh
Jan 1, 2024, 12:41:34 PMJan 1
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On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 12:27:31 PM UTC-5, Johnny wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:15:51 -0800
> Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> > On 1/1/2024 9:02 AM, Johnny wrote:
> >
> > {snip}
> >
> > > The polio vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine didn't.
> >
> > The latter did not eradicate COVID. But, it enabled us to get our
> > lives back to normal. After the vaccine came out, red state death
> > rates (where the vaccine was less adopted) were higher than
> > blue-state death rates.
> >
> > https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
> >
> The fake vaccine and the lockdowns tore our lives apart.
But if the vaccine was “fake”, then why did hospitalizations & deaths decline
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:15:51 -0800
> Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> > On 1/1/2024 9:02 AM, Johnny wrote:
> >
> > {snip}
> >
> > > The polio vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine didn't.
> >
> > The latter did not eradicate COVID. But, it enabled us to get our
> > lives back to normal. After the vaccine came out, red state death
> > rates (where the vaccine was less adopted) were higher than
> > blue-state death rates.
> >
> > https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
> >
> The fake vaccine and the lockdowns tore our lives apart.
so much in regions with high vaccine adoption rates, whereas it didn’t do so
in those places which had low uptake rates?
> Cloth and cotton masks will not even slow down a virus.
despite not being as objectively significant as KN95’s.
> People were totally dependent on that vaccine, and it didn't work.
> The people that sold masks got rich.
-hh
Josh Rosenbluth
Jan 1, 2024, 12:43:08 PMJan 1
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got rich). But again, the vaccine saved us (did you read my link). The
anti-vax folks are nuts.
Johnny
Jan 1, 2024, 1:06:38 PMJan 1
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On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:42:52 -0800
Yes I read your link about the red and blue states.
During the so called pandemic, the tests were faulty. Elon Musk
proved that by taking four in one day. Two positive and two negative.
Same nurse same test.
When a person died they were tested for the virus. If they had the
virus it was assumed they died from the virus. That wasn't true. How
many of those test were wrong?
The schools were closed. Children were the ones least affected by the
virus.
The virus mainly was worse for older people and people with weak immune
systems.
The lockdowns were a terrible mistake.
During the so called pandemic, the tests were faulty. Elon Musk
proved that by taking four in one day. Two positive and two negative.
Same nurse same test.
When a person died they were tested for the virus. If they had the
virus it was assumed they died from the virus. That wasn't true. How
many of those test were wrong?
The schools were closed. Children were the ones least affected by the
virus.
The virus mainly was worse for older people and people with weak immune
systems.
The lockdowns were a terrible mistake.
Josh Rosenbluth
Jan 1, 2024, 1:28:39 PMJan 1
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was used
> The schools were closed. Children were the ones least affected by the
> virus.
>
> The virus mainly was worse for older people and people with weak immune
> systems.
>
> The lockdowns were a terrible mistake.
Johnny
Jan 1, 2024, 2:02:32 PMJan 1
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On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 10:28:22 -0800
Yes I am when the vaccine is worthless. When you get vaccinated for
smallpox you don't get smallpox, when you receive the polio vaccine,
you don't get polio.
smallpox you don't get smallpox, when you receive the polio vaccine,
you don't get polio.
Siri Cruise
Jan 1, 2024, 2:38:37 PMJan 1
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Johnny wrote:
> when you receive the polio vaccine,
> you don't get polio.
Ummmmmm....
> when you receive the polio vaccine,
> you don't get polio.
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-hh
Jan 1, 2024, 3:11:56 PMJan 1
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On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-5, Siri Cruise wrote:
> Johnny wrote:
> > when you receive the polio vaccine,
> > you don't get polio.
>
> Ummmmmm....
These boys are too young to remember that the polio vaccine wasn't
> Johnny wrote:
> > when you receive the polio vaccine,
> > you don't get polio.
>
> Ummmmmm....
a single inoculation. It required two doses to get to 90% effective,
and three doses to get to 99%.
They probably also don't realize that there's still one "Iron Lung" survivor
still living...and that's he's spent the past 71 years living that way.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Alexander_(polio_survivor)>
-hh
Johnny
Jan 1, 2024, 3:26:59 PMJan 1
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die than live like that.
The polio vaccine consisted of one sugar cube with one drop of weakened
live polio virus.
https://www.passporthealthglobal.com/2022/01/flashback-vaccination-with-sugar-cubes/
Siri Cruise
Jan 1, 2024, 3:32:55 PMJan 1
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-hh wrote:
> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-5, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> Johnny wrote:
>>> when you receive the polio vaccine,
>>> you don't get polio.
>>
>> Ummmmmm....
>
> These boys are too young to remember that the polio vaccine wasn't
> a single inoculation. It required two doses to get to 90% effective,
> and three doses to get to 99%.
One polio vaccine in the US was discontinued because the disease
> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-5, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> Johnny wrote:
>>> when you receive the polio vaccine,
>>> you don't get polio.
>>
>> Ummmmmm....
>
> These boys are too young to remember that the polio vaccine wasn't
> a single inoculation. It required two doses to get to 90% effective,
> and three doses to get to 99%.
is so rare that vaccine has become more dangerous.
Johnny wrote:>> None of that is relevant to he vaccines. You are
an anti-vax nut case.
> Yes I am when the vaccine is worthless. When you get
vaccinated for
> smallpox you don't get smallpox, when you receive the polio
> Yes I am when the vaccine is worthless. When you get
vaccinated for
vaccine,
> you don't get polio.
Like everything in our immune system, it's probabilistic not
> you don't get polio.
absolute. Covid vaccine reduces the probability of disease. No
vaccine is absolutely effective. When the disease is rare enough,
probabilities shift and the vaccine can become worse, at which
point it is discontinued.
Vaccines activate the immune system to the virus surface. This
part of the virus is usually conserved because even small
molecular changes can kill the virus. Unfortunately for us covid
remains effective even after mutating its surface. Again
probability. It's improbable for a virus to have this ability
hence the struggle to kill it.
Josh Rosenbluth
Jan 1, 2024, 3:34:07 PMJan 1
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Johnny
Jan 1, 2024, 3:38:06 PMJan 1
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On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 12:33:51 -0800
It shouldn't be called a vaccine. Tell the people the truth. It's a
treatment for the virus.
treatment for the virus.
-hh
Jan 1, 2024, 3:40:47 PMJan 1
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On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 3:26:59 PM UTC-5, Johnny wrote:
> The polio vaccine consisted of one sugar cube with one drop of weakened
> live polio virus.
>
> https://www.passporthealthglobal.com/2022/01/flashback-vaccination-with-sugar-cubes/
Not anymore. As Siri noted that version's side effects were an unacceptable risk,
so its just Inactivated Polio Vaccine (IPV) as the only polio vaccine that's been used
in the USA since 2000.
In the meantime, the more we're learning about CoVid19, the worse its long term
health implications are: the Merck Manual has published that SARS-CoV-2, like HIV,
causes lymphocytopenia...
<https://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/hematology-and-oncology/leukopenias/lymphocytopenia>
...which means that CoVid19 is a chronic immune system disease, which means that
contracting it has quality of life reductions and significant long term healthcare expenses
for those individual(s). Presently, the lymphocytopenia contraction rate appears to be
highly variable ... 35% to 83% ... but the most worrying part of that metric is that the
lower limit of 35% is extremely high (eg, "one in three"). Plus they're also finding that
CoVid19 is linking to cardiac arrests in people under age 30...and that's on top of how
myocardia rates in under age 25 are ~5x the population baseline.
-hh
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 12:11:54 -0800 (PST) -hh wrote:
> > On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-5, Siri Cruise wrote:
> > > Johnny wrote:
> > > > when you receive the polio vaccine,
> > > > you don't get polio.
> > >
> > > Ummmmmm....
> >
> > These boys are too young to remember that the polio vaccine wasn't
> > a single inoculation. It required two doses to get to 90% effective,
> > and three doses to get to 99%.
> >
> > They probably also don't realize that there's still one "Iron Lung"
> > survivor still living...and that's he's spent the past 71 years
> > living that way.
> >
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Alexander_(polio_survivor)>
>
> > On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 2:38:37 PM UTC-5, Siri Cruise wrote:
> > > Johnny wrote:
> > > > when you receive the polio vaccine,
> > > > you don't get polio.
> > >
> > > Ummmmmm....
> >
> > These boys are too young to remember that the polio vaccine wasn't
> > a single inoculation. It required two doses to get to 90% effective,
> > and three doses to get to 99%.
> >
> > They probably also don't realize that there's still one "Iron Lung"
> > survivor still living...and that's he's spent the past 71 years
> > living that way.
> >
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Alexander_(polio_survivor)>
>
> It's a shame euthanasia was not allowed back then. I know I'd rather
> die than live like that.
There was hope for years that a cure would be found, hence why one waited.
> die than live like that.
> The polio vaccine consisted of one sugar cube with one drop of weakened
> live polio virus.
>
> https://www.passporthealthglobal.com/2022/01/flashback-vaccination-with-sugar-cubes/
so its just Inactivated Polio Vaccine (IPV) as the only polio vaccine that's been used
in the USA since 2000.
In the meantime, the more we're learning about CoVid19, the worse its long term
health implications are: the Merck Manual has published that SARS-CoV-2, like HIV,
causes lymphocytopenia...
<https://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/hematology-and-oncology/leukopenias/lymphocytopenia>
...which means that CoVid19 is a chronic immune system disease, which means that
contracting it has quality of life reductions and significant long term healthcare expenses
for those individual(s). Presently, the lymphocytopenia contraction rate appears to be
highly variable ... 35% to 83% ... but the most worrying part of that metric is that the
lower limit of 35% is extremely high (eg, "one in three"). Plus they're also finding that
CoVid19 is linking to cardiac arrests in people under age 30...and that's on top of how
myocardia rates in under age 25 are ~5x the population baseline.
-hh
-hh
Jan 1, 2024, 3:42:56 PMJan 1
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For treatment, there's Paxlovid, an anti-viral cocktail which if not for Government
subsidy, currently retails for ~$400 for a five (5) day treatment.
-hh
OrigInfoJunkie
Jan 1, 2024, 4:14:14 PMJan 1
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rankings for public health, education, social well-being, happiness, etc.
pyotr filipivich
Jan 1, 2024, 4:14:19 PMJan 1
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you didn't get the vaccine. The vaccine works.
Ihor Procyk
Jan 1, 2024, 4:14:20 PMJan 1
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On 1/1/2024 10:06 AM, Johnny wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:42:52 -0800
> Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/1/2024 9:27 AM, Johnny wrote:
>>> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:15:51 -0800
>>> Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/1/2024 9:02 AM, Johnny wrote:
>>>>
>>>> {snip}
>>>>
>>>>> The polio vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine didn't.
>>>>
>>>> The latter did not eradicate COVID. But, it enabled us to get our
>>>> lives back to normal. After the vaccine came out, red state death
>>>> rates (where the vaccine was less adopted) were higher than
>>>> blue-state death rates.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
>>>>
>>>
>>> The fake vaccine and the lockdowns tore our lives apart. Cloth and
>>> cotton masks will not even slow down a virus. People were totally
>>> dependent on that vaccine, and it didn't work.
>>>
>>> The people that sold masks got rich.
>>
>> I agree with you on the cloth masks (but, N95s work and I'm not sure
>> who got rich). But again, the vaccine saved us (did you read my
>> link). The anti-vax folks are nuts.
>
> Yes I read your link about the red and blue states.
>
> During the so called pandemic,
This is why shitbags like "johnny" get no serious engagement. There was a
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:42:52 -0800
> Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/1/2024 9:27 AM, Johnny wrote:
>>> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:15:51 -0800
>>> Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/1/2024 9:02 AM, Johnny wrote:
>>>>
>>>> {snip}
>>>>
>>>>> The polio vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine didn't.
>>>>
>>>> The latter did not eradicate COVID. But, it enabled us to get our
>>>> lives back to normal. After the vaccine came out, red state death
>>>> rates (where the vaccine was less adopted) were higher than
>>>> blue-state death rates.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
>>>>
>>>
>>> The fake vaccine and the lockdowns tore our lives apart. Cloth and
>>> cotton masks will not even slow down a virus. People were totally
>>> dependent on that vaccine, and it didn't work.
>>>
>>> The people that sold masks got rich.
>>
>> I agree with you on the cloth masks (but, N95s work and I'm not sure
>> who got rich). But again, the vaccine saved us (did you read my
>> link). The anti-vax folks are nuts.
>
> Yes I read your link about the red and blue states.
>
> During the so called pandemic,
pandemic — that is not in dispute.
Harlan Banks
Jan 1, 2024, 4:14:21 PMJan 1
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Michael A Terrell
Jan 1, 2024, 4:14:22 PMJan 1
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On 1/1/2024 9:27 AM, Johnny wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:15:51 -0800
> Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/1/2024 9:02 AM, Johnny wrote:
>>
>> {snip}
>>
>>> The polio vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine didn't.
>>
>> The latter did not eradicate COVID. But, it enabled us to get our
>> lives back to normal. After the vaccine came out, red state death
>> rates (where the vaccine was less adopted) were higher than
>> blue-state death rates.
>>
>> https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
>>
>
> The fake vaccine and the lockdowns tore our lives apart.
The vaccine is not fake, and it did work at greatly reducing severe illness and
> Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/1/2024 9:02 AM, Johnny wrote:
>>
>> {snip}
>>
>>> The polio vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine didn't.
>>
>> The latter did not eradicate COVID. But, it enabled us to get our
>> lives back to normal. After the vaccine came out, red state death
>> rates (where the vaccine was less adopted) were higher than
>> blue-state death rates.
>>
>> https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
>>
>
> The fake vaccine and the lockdowns tore our lives apart.
death. You're lying about that.
> People were totally dependent on that vaccine, and it didn't work.
David Hartung
Jan 1, 2024, 4:14:23 PMJan 1
to
On 1/1/2024 9:02 AM, Johnny wrote:
right-wing fuckscum keep lying about this.
Duane D La Motte
Jan 1, 2024, 4:17:12 PMJan 1
to
true is actually false.
Ihor Procyk
Jan 1, 2024, 4:17:52 PMJan 1
to
Jack Carlson
Jan 1, 2024, 4:20:40 PMJan 1
to
On 1/1/2024 7:53 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> Kremlin Girl <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> ...
>
> From Covid.
This "from vs with" argument is bullshit. They *all* were *from* COVID.
> Kremlin Girl <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> ...
>>> 2023
>>> 31 Jan 1,132,935 (+14,952)
>>> 28 Feb 1,145,661 (+12,726)
>>> 31 Mar 1,155,069 (+ 9,408)
>>> 30 Apr 1,159,839 (+ 4,770)
>>> 31 May 1,165,449 (+ 5,610)
>>> 30 Jun 1,168,148 (+ 2,699)
>>> 31 Jul 1,169,813 (+ 1,665)
>>> 31 Aug 1,173,655 (+ 3,842)
>>> 30 Sep 1,176,843 (+ 3,188)
>>> 31 Oct 1,180,669 (+ 3,826)
>>> 30 Nov 1,183,754 (+ 3,085)
>>> 31 Dec 1,190,171 (+ 6,417)
>>>
>>> <https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
>> ...
>>> 31 Jan 1,132,935 (+14,952)
>>> 28 Feb 1,145,661 (+12,726)
>>> 31 Mar 1,155,069 (+ 9,408)
>>> 30 Apr 1,159,839 (+ 4,770)
>>> 31 May 1,165,449 (+ 5,610)
>>> 30 Jun 1,168,148 (+ 2,699)
>>> 31 Jul 1,169,813 (+ 1,665)
>>> 31 Aug 1,173,655 (+ 3,842)
>>> 30 Sep 1,176,843 (+ 3,188)
>>> 31 Oct 1,180,669 (+ 3,826)
>>> 30 Nov 1,183,754 (+ 3,085)
>>> 31 Dec 1,190,171 (+ 6,417)
>>>
>>> <https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
>> Is this "with Covid" or "from Covid".
>> ...
>
> From Covid.
This "from vs with" argument is bullshit. They *all* were *from* COVID.
Siri Cruise
Jan 1, 2024, 5:10:50 PMJan 1
to
vaccine.
Mitchell Holman
Jan 1, 2024, 10:11:11 PMJan 1
to
Johnny <joh...@invalid.net> wrote in
news:20240101142656.53f68292@Johnny:
And even that was blasted as
socialism by conservatives.
"When Jonas Salk developed a polio
vaccine in 1955, for instance, Democrats
proposed a federal program to distribute
the vaccine to all American schoolchildren.
Eisenhower’s secretary of health education
and welfare (HEW), a Texas millionaire
named Oveta Culp Hobby, objected to the
plan: "That’s socialized medicine by the
back door, not the front door."
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/republicans-have-history-weaponizing-
socialism-do-they-understand-what-it-n1244465
news:20240101142656.53f68292@Johnny:
socialism by conservatives.
"When Jonas Salk developed a polio
vaccine in 1955, for instance, Democrats
proposed a federal program to distribute
the vaccine to all American schoolchildren.
Eisenhower’s secretary of health education
and welfare (HEW), a Texas millionaire
named Oveta Culp Hobby, objected to the
plan: "That’s socialized medicine by the
back door, not the front door."
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/republicans-have-history-weaponizing-
socialism-do-they-understand-what-it-n1244465
NoBody
Jan 2, 2024, 7:09:22 AMJan 2
to
On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 15:53:42 -0000 (UTC), b...@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:
>Kremlin Girl <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> ...
>>>2023
>>> 31 Jan 1,132,935 (+14,952)
>>> 28 Feb 1,145,661 (+12,726)
>>> 31 Mar 1,155,069 (+ 9,408)
>>> 30 Apr 1,159,839 (+ 4,770)
>>> 31 May 1,165,449 (+ 5,610)
>>> 30 Jun 1,168,148 (+ 2,699)
>>> 31 Jul 1,169,813 (+ 1,665)
>>> 31 Aug 1,173,655 (+ 3,842)
>>> 30 Sep 1,176,843 (+ 3,188)
>>> 31 Oct 1,180,669 (+ 3,826)
>>> 30 Nov 1,183,754 (+ 3,085)
>>> 31 Dec 1,190,171 (+ 6,417)
>>>
>>><https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
>> ...
>>Is this "with Covid" or "from Covid".
>> ...
>
>From Covid.
>
> --bks
Sherman) wrote:
>Kremlin Girl <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> ...
>>>2023
>>> 31 Jan 1,132,935 (+14,952)
>>> 28 Feb 1,145,661 (+12,726)
>>> 31 Mar 1,155,069 (+ 9,408)
>>> 30 Apr 1,159,839 (+ 4,770)
>>> 31 May 1,165,449 (+ 5,610)
>>> 30 Jun 1,168,148 (+ 2,699)
>>> 31 Jul 1,169,813 (+ 1,665)
>>> 31 Aug 1,173,655 (+ 3,842)
>>> 30 Sep 1,176,843 (+ 3,188)
>>> 31 Oct 1,180,669 (+ 3,826)
>>> 30 Nov 1,183,754 (+ 3,085)
>>> 31 Dec 1,190,171 (+ 6,417)
>>>
>>><https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
>> ...
>>Is this "with Covid" or "from Covid".
>> ...
>
>From Covid.
>
Source that this is the case?
And you clipped thee 99% recovery rate.
NoBody
Jan 2, 2024, 7:12:13 AMJan 2
to
On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:15:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
wrote:
>On 1/1/2024 9:02 AM, Johnny wrote:
>
>{snip}
>
>> The polio vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine didn't.
>
>The latter did not eradicate COVID. But, it enabled us to get our lives
>back to normal. After the vaccine came out, red state death rates (where
>the vaccine was less adopted) were higher than blue-state death rates.
>
>https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
Interesting that he doesn't cite his source.
>On 1/1/2024 9:02 AM, Johnny wrote:
>
>{snip}
>
>> The polio vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine didn't.
>
>The latter did not eradicate COVID. But, it enabled us to get our lives
>back to normal. After the vaccine came out, red state death rates (where
>the vaccine was less adopted) were higher than blue-state death rates.
>
>https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
NoBody
Jan 2, 2024, 7:13:07 AMJan 2
to
On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:42:52 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
Are you still getting your shot every six months still?
NoBody
Jan 2, 2024, 7:15:00 AMJan 2
to
On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 12:33:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
I'm sorry but I don't think that's really been established. Each shot
I got made me progressively sicker. I stopped getting it and had a
very mild case of Covid. Nothing since.
I got made me progressively sicker. I stopped getting it and had a
very mild case of Covid. Nothing since.
-hh
Jan 2, 2024, 7:46:43 AMJan 2
to
> I stopped getting it and had a very mild case of Covid. Nothing since.
-hh
Bradley K. Sherman
Jan 2, 2024, 9:21:26 AMJan 2
to
Kremlin Girl <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>2023
>>>> 31 Jan 1,132,935 (+14,952)
>>>> 28 Feb 1,145,661 (+12,726)
>>>> 31 Mar 1,155,069 (+ 9,408)
>>>> 30 Apr 1,159,839 (+ 4,770)
>>>> 31 May 1,165,449 (+ 5,610)
>>>> 30 Jun 1,168,148 (+ 2,699)
>>>> 31 Jul 1,169,813 (+ 1,665)
>>>> 31 Aug 1,173,655 (+ 3,842)
>>>> 30 Sep 1,176,843 (+ 3,188)
>>>> 31 Oct 1,180,669 (+ 3,826)
>>>> 30 Nov 1,183,754 (+ 3,085)
>>>> 31 Dec 1,190,171 (+ 6,417)
>>>>
>>>><https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/> <-+
>>> ...
>>>>2023
>>>> 31 Jan 1,132,935 (+14,952)
>>>> 28 Feb 1,145,661 (+12,726)
>>>> 31 Mar 1,155,069 (+ 9,408)
>>>> 30 Apr 1,159,839 (+ 4,770)
>>>> 31 May 1,165,449 (+ 5,610)
>>>> 30 Jun 1,168,148 (+ 2,699)
>>>> 31 Jul 1,169,813 (+ 1,665)
>>>> 31 Aug 1,173,655 (+ 3,842)
>>>> 30 Sep 1,176,843 (+ 3,188)
>>>> 31 Oct 1,180,669 (+ 3,826)
>>>> 30 Nov 1,183,754 (+ 3,085)
>>>> 31 Dec 1,190,171 (+ 6,417)
>>>>
> ... |
>Source ... ? |
> ... |
|
It's right there, Russian troll ------------------------------+
--bks
Mike Colangelo
Jan 2, 2024, 9:56:17 AMJan 2
to
get COVID-19 at all, and they are far less likely to die from — not "with" —
COVID19.
> Each shot I got made me progressively sicker.
plus four boosters — and I haven't had COVID-19 once. They work. See?
Josh Rosenbluth
Jan 2, 2024, 11:00:08 AMJan 2
to
Josh Rosenbluth
Jan 2, 2024, 11:01:09 AMJan 2
to
nickname unavailable
Jan 2, 2024, 11:11:11 AMJan 2
to
source, you can be assured a source was given.
Mitchell Holman
Jan 2, 2024, 1:56:49 PMJan 2
to
Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con> wrote in
news:iuVkN.124182$p%Mb.1...@fx15.iad:
When doctors get vaccinated and get
their families vaccinated I generally
trust that is the right thing to do.
AMA survey shows over 96% of doctors fully
vaccinated against COVID-19
JUN 11, 2021
http://tinyurl.com/y6ruwtjr
news:iuVkN.124182$p%Mb.1...@fx15.iad:
their families vaccinated I generally
trust that is the right thing to do.
AMA survey shows over 96% of doctors fully
vaccinated against COVID-19
JUN 11, 2021
http://tinyurl.com/y6ruwtjr
Governor Swill
Jan 2, 2024, 8:03:00 PMJan 2
to
On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 05:46:20 -0800 (PST), -hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
AR is listed twice? #9 should be AL.
Swill
--
"I don't want everybody to vote. As a matter of fact, our leverage in
the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."
- Paul Weyrich, co founder of Heritage Foundation and Moral Majority
Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/
Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!
Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!
Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!
Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>
>> 2023
>> 31 Jan 1,132,935 (+14,952)
>> 28 Feb 1,145,661 (+12,726)
>> 31 Mar 1,155,069 (+ 9,408)
>> 30 Apr 1,159,839 (+ 4,770)
>> 31 May 1,165,449 (+ 5,610)
>> 30 Jun 1,168,148 (+ 2,699)
>> 31 Jul 1,169,813 (+ 1,665)
>> 31 Aug 1,173,655 (+ 3,842)
>> 30 Sep 1,176,843 (+ 3,188)
>> 31 Oct 1,180,669 (+ 3,826)
>> 30 Nov 1,183,754 (+ 3,085)
>> 31 Dec 1,190,171 (+ 6,417)
>>
>> <https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
>>
>> 31 Jan 1,132,935 (+14,952)
>> 28 Feb 1,145,661 (+12,726)
>> 31 Mar 1,155,069 (+ 9,408)
>> 30 Apr 1,159,839 (+ 4,770)
>> 31 May 1,165,449 (+ 5,610)
>> 30 Jun 1,168,148 (+ 2,699)
>> 31 Jul 1,169,813 (+ 1,665)
>> 31 Aug 1,173,655 (+ 3,842)
>> 30 Sep 1,176,843 (+ 3,188)
>> 31 Oct 1,180,669 (+ 3,826)
>> 30 Nov 1,183,754 (+ 3,085)
>> 31 Dec 1,190,171 (+ 6,417)
>>
>> <https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
>>
>> --bks
>
>Now sort by deaths per capita, to assess what states have been doing better/worse
>at Public Health initiatives particularly after the initial onslaught. One gets:
>
>Worst (#1): Arizona (AZ)
>#2: West Virginia (WV)
>#3: MS
>#4: TN
>#5: NM
>#6: AR
>#7: MI
>#8: FL
>#9: AR
>#10: KY
>
>Golly, that’s a lot of Red “Shithole” States at the top of the worst.
>
>-hh
>
>Now sort by deaths per capita, to assess what states have been doing better/worse
>at Public Health initiatives particularly after the initial onslaught. One gets:
>
>Worst (#1): Arizona (AZ)
>#2: West Virginia (WV)
>#3: MS
>#4: TN
>#5: NM
>#6: AR
>#7: MI
>#8: FL
>#9: AR
>#10: KY
>
>Golly, that’s a lot of Red “Shithole” States at the top of the worst.
>
AR is listed twice? #9 should be AL.
Swill
--
"I don't want everybody to vote. As a matter of fact, our leverage in
the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."
- Paul Weyrich, co founder of Heritage Foundation and Moral Majority
Not left, not right, https://www.forwardparty.com/
Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!
Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!
Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!
Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>
Governor Swill
Jan 2, 2024, 8:04:31 PMJan 2
to
On Mon, 01 Jan 2024 15:07:45 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noe...@verizon.net> wrote:
>-hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote in
>news:75c9a31c-c8af-41ae...@googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 7:15:32 AM UTC-5, Bradley K. Sherman
>> Golly, that’s a lot of Red “Shithole� States at the top of the
>> worst.
>>
>
>
> Watch this space for the usual
>"it's all be cause of their blacks"
>and "it's all because of Biden's
>open border"
Yeah, TN, MS and WV have really struggled with their border with Mexico.
>-hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote in
>news:75c9a31c-c8af-41ae...@googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 7:15:32 AM UTC-5, Bradley K. Sherman
>> worst.
>>
>
>
> Watch this space for the usual
>"it's all be cause of their blacks"
>and "it's all because of Biden's
>open border"
Yeah, TN, MS and WV have really struggled with their border with Mexico.
Governor Swill
Jan 2, 2024, 8:10:04 PMJan 2
to
On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:41:32 -0800 (PST), -hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 12:27:31?PM UTC-5, Johnny wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:15:51 -0800
>> Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On 1/1/2024 9:02 AM, Johnny wrote:
>> >
>> > {snip}
>> >
>> > > The polio vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine didn't.
>> >
>> > The latter did not eradicate COVID. But, it enabled us to get our
>> > lives back to normal. After the vaccine came out, red state death
>> > rates (where the vaccine was less adopted) were higher than
>> > blue-state death rates.
>> >
>> > https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
>> >
>> The fake vaccine and the lockdowns tore our lives apart.
>
>But if the vaccine was “fake”, then why did hospitalizations & deaths decline
>so much in regions with high vaccine adoption rates, whereas it didn’t do so
>in those places which had low uptake rates?
>despite not being as objectively significant as KN95’s.
The popular misconception was that masks could keep you safe from infection. Surgical
teams don't wear mask so the patient doesn't make *them* sick, they wear masks so they
don't infect the *patient*.
>> People were totally dependent on that vaccine, and it didn't work.
>
>The vaccine did increase complacency, but did also reduce the recession.
I did the Johnson and Johnson and I haven't had Covid. Everybody else in the house has
and so have most of the folks in my neighborhood in Florida.
>> The people that sold masks got rich.
>
>Jealous much? How about substantiation of that claim?
Is making money suddenly a bad thing in Republican circles?
Swill
NP: Caroline's Spine - Turned Blue
>On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 12:27:31?PM UTC-5, Johnny wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:15:51 -0800
>> Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On 1/1/2024 9:02 AM, Johnny wrote:
>> >
>> > {snip}
>> >
>> > > The polio vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine didn't.
>> >
>> > The latter did not eradicate COVID. But, it enabled us to get our
>> > lives back to normal. After the vaccine came out, red state death
>> > rates (where the vaccine was less adopted) were higher than
>> > blue-state death rates.
>> >
>> > https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
>> >
>> The fake vaccine and the lockdowns tore our lives apart.
>
>so much in regions with high vaccine adoption rates, whereas it didn’t do so
>in those places which had low uptake rates?
>
>> Cloth and cotton masks will not even slow down a virus.
>
>Another falsehood. And even DIY cotton masks had an effect,
>> Cloth and cotton masks will not even slow down a virus.
>
>despite not being as objectively significant as KN95’s.
The popular misconception was that masks could keep you safe from infection. Surgical
teams don't wear mask so the patient doesn't make *them* sick, they wear masks so they
don't infect the *patient*.
>> People were totally dependent on that vaccine, and it didn't work.
>
I did the Johnson and Johnson and I haven't had Covid. Everybody else in the house has
and so have most of the folks in my neighborhood in Florida.
>> The people that sold masks got rich.
>
Is making money suddenly a bad thing in Republican circles?
Swill
NP: Caroline's Spine - Turned Blue
Governor Swill
Jan 2, 2024, 8:17:05 PMJan 2
to
On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 13:17:10 -0800, Duane D La Motte <another.wi...@arent.they.all>
wrote:
That's because he's a troll. He doesn't believe the shit he posts either.
Swill
NP: Spin Doctors - Little Miss Can't Be Wrong
wrote:
Swill
NP: Spin Doctors - Little Miss Can't Be Wrong
NoBody
Jan 7, 2024, 1:05:47 PMJan 7
to
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 07:59:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
Pretty sure it's supposed to be twice a year for "proper" protection.
Of course you're free to poison your body. I've not seen anything
that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed. We have
no massive plague going on even with only a few die hards getting the
booster.
Of course you're free to poison your body. I've not seen anything
that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed. We have
no massive plague going on even with only a few die hards getting the
booster.
NoBody
Jan 7, 2024, 1:08:05 PMJan 7
to
On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 08:00:52 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
Footnote 2 references something from 2019 and does not answer my
question.
question.
NoBody
Jan 7, 2024, 1:08:56 PMJan 7
to
what you dishonestly snipped.
Josh Rosenbluth
Jan 7, 2024, 1:12:10 PMJan 7
to
Shingles, RSV, Pneumococcal?
Josh Rosenbluth
Jan 7, 2024, 1:13:50 PMJan 7
to
states) from Worldometers through 9/2023.
Mitchell Holman
Jan 7, 2024, 1:54:55 PMJan 7
to
Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:unephn$15l6e$2...@dont-email.me:
I did. This fall has been Vaccine Season
for me. RSV, Shingles, flu, the latest Covid
shot, pneumonia. At my age I don't have the
energy to fight of something as nasty as
Shingles all on my own.
news:unephn$15l6e$2...@dont-email.me:
for me. RSV, Shingles, flu, the latest Covid
shot, pneumonia. At my age I don't have the
energy to fight of something as nasty as
Shingles all on my own.
Lou Bricano
Jan 7, 2024, 2:15:35 PMJan 7
to
younger than you. It was extremely debilitating for several months.
-hh
Jan 7, 2024, 2:30:37 PMJan 7
to
Where 'different' means substantially smaller HSR sample sizes during their
Phase II & III trials, which means that they're less well tested than the CoVid19 vaccine.
But don't let facts get in the way... /s
In the meantime,
<https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00246-9/>
which links to:
<https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2666-5247%2821%2900246-9>
which states:
"COVID-19 has overtaken tuberculosis as the leading infectious cause of death,
which, among other things, is an ironclad justification for the resources that the
pandemic response has attracted."
Because as everyone like NoBody knows, TB is super harmless! /s
And while we're at it:
<https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2807617>
[quote]
Question Was political party affiliation a risk factor associated with excess mortality
during the COVID-19 pandemic in Florida and Ohio?
Findings In this cohort study evaluating 538 159 deaths in individuals aged 25 years
and older in Florida and Ohio between March 2020 and December 2021, excess mortality
was significantly higher for Republican voters than Democratic voters after COVID-19
vaccines were available to all adults, but not before. These differences were concentrated
in counties with lower vaccination rates, and primarily noted in voters residing in Ohio.
Meaning The differences in excess mortality by political party affiliation after COVID-19
vaccines were available to all adults suggest that differences in vaccination attitudes and
reported uptake between Republican and Democratic voters may have been a factor in the
severity and trajectory of the pandemic in the US.
[/quote]
-hh
Siri Cruise
Jan 7, 2024, 2:40:23 PMJan 7
to
NoBody wrote:
> Pretty sure it's supposed to be twice a year for "proper" protection.
> Of course you're free to poison your body. I've not seen anything
> that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed. We have
> no massive plague going on even with only a few die hards getting the
> booster.
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration,
> Pretty sure it's supposed to be twice a year for "proper" protection.
> Of course you're free to poison your body. I've not seen anything
> that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed. We have
> no massive plague going on even with only a few die hards getting the
> booster.
Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the
international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our
precious bodily fluids.
Josh Rosenbluth
Jan 7, 2024, 2:50:47 PMJan 7
to
On 1/7/2024 11:40 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> NoBody wrote:
>> Pretty sure it's supposed to be twice a year for "proper" protection.
>> Of course you're free to poison your body. I've not seen anything
>> that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed. We have
>> no massive plague going on even with only a few die hards getting the
>> booster.
>
> I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist
> indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist
> conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
You win the thread.
> NoBody wrote:
>> Pretty sure it's supposed to be twice a year for "proper" protection.
>> Of course you're free to poison your body. I've not seen anything
>> that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed. We have
>> no massive plague going on even with only a few die hards getting the
>> booster.
>
> I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist
> indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist
> conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
David Hartung
Jan 7, 2024, 6:11:58 PMJan 7
to
On 1/7/2024 10:08 AM, NoBody wrote:
https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
nickname unavailable
Jan 7, 2024, 6:12:01 PMJan 7
to
On 1/7/2024 10:05 AM, NoBody wrote:
> I've not seen anything that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed.
/argumentum ad ignorantiam/
The fact that you haven't seen anything surprises no one.
Michael A Terrell
Jan 7, 2024, 6:14:54 PMJan 7
to
in the Worldometers page. She needs to look at footnote 2 in the Nate Silver
page. That footnote *points to* the Worldometers page. She's stupid.
OrigInfoJunkie
Jan 7, 2024, 6:17:06 PMJan 7
to
fine by me.
Lee
Jan 8, 2024, 11:19:18 AMJan 8
to
new vaccine is released for a new
variant.
> Of course you're free to poison your body.
vaccinations you have had so far?
> I've not seen anything
> that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed. We have
> no massive plague going on even with only a few die hards getting the
> booster.
Perhaps they know more about this
than you?
https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-survey-shows-ov
er-96-doctors-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19
NoBody
Jan 12, 2024, 7:03:23 AMJan 12
to
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 10:13:32 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
The question was if the data is deaths *from* Covid* or *with Covid*.
Sorry you didn't read before responding.
Sorry you didn't read before responding.
NoBody
Jan 12, 2024, 7:05:09 AMJan 12
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On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 10:11:52 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
No to the last three. And these are actual vaccinations, not some
snake oil that needs "boosters" two to three times a year.
snake oil that needs "boosters" two to three times a year.
NoBody
Jan 12, 2024, 7:06:02 AMJan 12
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On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 11:40:11 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>NoBody wrote:
>> Pretty sure it's supposed to be twice a year for "proper" protection.
>> Of course you're free to poison your body. I've not seen anything
>> that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed. We have
>> no massive plague going on even with only a few die hards getting the
>> booster.
>
>I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration,
>Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the
>international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our
>precious bodily fluids.
You are *seriously* drunk today.
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>NoBody wrote:
>> Pretty sure it's supposed to be twice a year for "proper" protection.
>> Of course you're free to poison your body. I've not seen anything
>> that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed. We have
>> no massive plague going on even with only a few die hards getting the
>> booster.
>
>I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration,
>Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the
>international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our
>precious bodily fluids.
NoBody
Jan 12, 2024, 7:07:40 AMJan 12
to
On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 11:50:28 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
wrote:
How is being against the right to choose what substances go into your
body Communism?
You're drinking the same stuff he is.
wrote:
body Communism?
You're drinking the same stuff he is.
-hh
Jan 12, 2024, 7:25:33 AMJan 12
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-hh
Siri Cruise
Jan 12, 2024, 9:28:43 AMJan 12
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NoBody wrote:
> The question was if the data is deaths*from* Covid* or*with Covid*.
on the other side of the continent are vaccinated?
> The question was if the data is deaths*from* Covid* or*with Covid*.
> Sorry you didn't read before responding.
Let's tackle a more fundamental question. Should I care if goobers
on the other side of the continent are vaccinated?
Siri Cruise
Jan 12, 2024, 9:31:16 AMJan 12
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-hh wrote:
> How about polio? Did you get that shot?
We got sugar cubes at school. And our parents were glad.
> How about polio? Did you get that shot?
Siri Cruise
Jan 12, 2024, 9:33:50 AMJan 12
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second time!
Siri Cruise
Jan 12, 2024, 9:36:02 AMJan 12
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animal-food-trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your
mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries.
Josh Rosenbluth
Jan 12, 2024, 11:11:17 AMJan 12
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On 1/12/2024 6:33 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> NoBody wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 11:50:28 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/7/2024 11:40 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>>> Pretty sure it's supposed to be twice a year for "proper" protection.
>>>>> Of course you're free to poison your body. I've not seen anything
>>>>> that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed. We have
>>>>> no massive plague going on even with only a few die hards getting the
>>>>> booster.
>>>>
>>>> I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist
>>>> indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist
>>>> conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
>>>
>>> You win the thread.
>>
>> How is being against the right to choose what substances go into your
>> body Communism?
>>
>> You're drinking the same stuff he is.
>>
>
> Yes. You lost the thread. Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!
Two victories in one thread for Siri!
> NoBody wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 11:50:28 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/7/2024 11:40 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>>> Pretty sure it's supposed to be twice a year for "proper" protection.
>>>>> Of course you're free to poison your body. I've not seen anything
>>>>> that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed. We have
>>>>> no massive plague going on even with only a few die hards getting the
>>>>> booster.
>>>>
>>>> I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist
>>>> indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist
>>>> conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
>>>
>>> You win the thread.
>>
>> How is being against the right to choose what substances go into your
>> body Communism?
>>
>> You're drinking the same stuff he is.
>>
>
> Yes. You lost the thread. Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!
Paul Jackson
Jan 12, 2024, 12:14:53 PMJan 12
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OrigInfoJunkie
Jan 12, 2024, 12:15:45 PMJan 12
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On 1/7/2024 10:05 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 07:59:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/2/2024 4:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:42:52 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
https://about.kaiserpermanente.org/news/5-things-to-know-about-the-covid-19-vaccines
> On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 07:59:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/2/2024 4:13 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:42:52 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/1/2024 9:27 AM, Johnny wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:15:51 -0800
>>>
>>>> On 1/1/2024 9:27 AM, Johnny wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:15:51 -0800
>>>>> Josh Rosenbluth <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/1/2024 9:02 AM, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The polio vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine didn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The latter did not eradicate COVID. But, it enabled us to get our
>>>>>> lives back to normal. After the vaccine came out, red state death
>>>>>> rates (where the vaccine was less adopted) were higher than
>>>>>> blue-state death rates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/1/2024 9:02 AM, Johnny wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The polio vaccine worked. The COVID vaccine didn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The latter did not eradicate COVID. But, it enabled us to get our
>>>>>> lives back to normal. After the vaccine came out, red state death
>>>>>> rates (where the vaccine was less adopted) were higher than
>>>>>> blue-state death rates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The fake vaccine and the lockdowns tore our lives apart. Cloth and
>>>>> cotton masks will not even slow down a virus. People were totally
>>>>> dependent on that vaccine, and it didn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> The people that sold masks got rich.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you on the cloth masks (but, N95s work and I'm not sure who
>>>> got rich). But again, the vaccine saved us (did you read my link). The
>>>> anti-vax folks are nuts.
>>>
>>> Are you still getting your shot every six months still?
>>
>> Once a year, like the flu shot.
>
>>>>> cotton masks will not even slow down a virus. People were totally
>>>>> dependent on that vaccine, and it didn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> The people that sold masks got rich.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you on the cloth masks (but, N95s work and I'm not sure who
>>>> got rich). But again, the vaccine saved us (did you read my link). The
>>>> anti-vax folks are nuts.
>>>
>>> Are you still getting your shot every six months still?
>>
>> Once a year, like the flu shot.
>
> Pretty sure it's supposed to be twice a year for "proper" protection.
*Once* a year.
https://about.kaiserpermanente.org/news/5-things-to-know-about-the-covid-19-vaccines
NoBody
Jan 13, 2024, 10:23:28 AMJan 13
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Try again.
>
>
>> Of course you're free to poison your body.
>
>
> Were you "poisoned" by all the
>vaccinations you have had so far?
don't require twice yearly "boosters") no.
But you're an idiot so there's that.
>
>
>
>> I've not seen anything
>> that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed. We have
>> no massive plague going on even with only a few die hards getting the
>> booster.
>
>
> 96% of doctors got vaccinated.
>Perhaps they know more about this
>than you?
>
>
>
>https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-survey-shows-ov
>er-96-doctors-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19
Does that include twice yearly "boosters"?
NoBody
Jan 13, 2024, 10:24:34 AMJan 13
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 06:31:11 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>-hh wrote:
>
>> How about polio? Did you get that shot?
>
>We got sugar cubes at school. And our parents were glad.
Do you have to get twice yearly "boosters" for polio?
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>-hh wrote:
>
>> How about polio? Did you get that shot?
>
>We got sugar cubes at school. And our parents were glad.
NoBody
Jan 13, 2024, 10:26:00 AMJan 13
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On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 06:35:58 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>NoBody wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 11:40:11 -0800, Siri Cruise
>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>> Pretty sure it's supposed to be twice a year for "proper" protection.
>>>> Of course you're free to poison your body. I've not seen anything
>>>> that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed. We have
>>>> no massive plague going on even with only a few die hards getting the
>>>> booster.
>>>
>>> I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration,
>>> Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the
>>> international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our
>>> precious bodily fluids.
>>
>> You are *seriously* drunk today.
>
>I don’t want to talk to you no more, you empty-headed
>animal-food-trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your
>mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries.
Yet another gibberish response.
>NoBody wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Jan 2024 11:40:11 -0800, Siri Cruise
>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>> Pretty sure it's supposed to be twice a year for "proper" protection.
>>>> Of course you're free to poison your body. I've not seen anything
>>>> that the boosters are particularly effective or even needed. We have
>>>> no massive plague going on even with only a few die hards getting the
>>>> booster.
>>>
>>> I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration,
>>> Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the
>>> international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our
>>> precious bodily fluids.
>>
>> You are *seriously* drunk today.
>
>I don’t want to talk to you no more, you empty-headed
>animal-food-trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your
>mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries.
Siri Cruise
Jan 13, 2024, 10:30:21 AMJan 13
to
exposing the wee ones to diseases that can kill and maim them.
These aren't diseases that endanger adults. Adult vaccines are to
protect children. I would get polio vaccines if a doctor
recommended them.
-hh
Jan 13, 2024, 9:00:49 PMJan 13
to
The recommended dose schedule is twice the first year, then
another in the second year, and the fourth dose three years later.
Plus there’s also an adult booster dose, typically for those traveling to
higher risk geographical regions. BTDT.
But what allows Polio to be subsequently non-recurring is because we got very
lucky genetically in having a target site that’s effectively mutation-resistant.
That’s not the case for SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2 viruses: their target site
mutates quickly, so it requires constant updating to maintain effectiveness.
-hh
NoBody
Jan 14, 2024, 11:20:54 AMJan 14
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 07:30:10 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>NoBody wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 06:31:11 -0800, Siri Cruise
>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> -hh wrote:
>>>
>>>> How about polio? Did you get that shot?
>>>
>>> We got sugar cubes at school. And our parents were glad.
>>
>> Do you have to get twice yearly "boosters" for polio?
>>
>
>At times I get rubella and percussive vaccines. Unlike you I dread
>exposing the wee ones to diseases that can kill and maim them.
>These aren't diseases that endanger adults. Adult vaccines are to
>protect children. I would get polio vaccines if a doctor
>recommended them.
Once again you wander away from the topic.
>NoBody wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 06:31:11 -0800, Siri Cruise
>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> -hh wrote:
>>>
>>>> How about polio? Did you get that shot?
>>>
>>> We got sugar cubes at school. And our parents were glad.
>>
>> Do you have to get twice yearly "boosters" for polio?
>>
>
>At times I get rubella and percussive vaccines. Unlike you I dread
>exposing the wee ones to diseases that can kill and maim them.
>These aren't diseases that endanger adults. Adult vaccines are to
>protect children. I would get polio vaccines if a doctor
>recommended them.
NoBody
Jan 14, 2024, 11:21:26 AMJan 14
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Siri Cruise
Jan 14, 2024, 11:41:07 AMJan 14
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NoBody
Jan 15, 2024, 6:51:27 AMJan 15
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 08:41:03 -0800, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>NoBody wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 07:30:10 -0800, Siri Cruise
>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 06:31:11 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How about polio? Did you get that shot?
>>>>>
>>>>> We got sugar cubes at school. And our parents were glad.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have to get twice yearly "boosters" for polio?
>>>>
>>>
>>> At times I get rubella and percussive vaccines. Unlike you I dread
>>> exposing the wee ones to diseases that can kill and maim them.
>>> These aren't diseases that endanger adults. Adult vaccines are to
>>> protect children. I would get polio vaccines if a doctor
>>> recommended them.
>>
>> Once again you wander away from the topic.
>>
>
>The topic being your intense desire to have a millstone on your neck.
Drunk again I see.
>NoBody wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 07:30:10 -0800, Siri Cruise
>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 06:31:11 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How about polio? Did you get that shot?
>>>>>
>>>>> We got sugar cubes at school. And our parents were glad.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have to get twice yearly "boosters" for polio?
>>>>
>>>
>>> At times I get rubella and percussive vaccines. Unlike you I dread
>>> exposing the wee ones to diseases that can kill and maim them.
>>> These aren't diseases that endanger adults. Adult vaccines are to
>>> protect children. I would get polio vaccines if a doctor
>>> recommended them.
>>
>> Once again you wander away from the topic.
>>
>
>The topic being your intense desire to have a millstone on your neck.
Governor Swill
Jan 15, 2024, 11:32:25 AMJan 15
to
On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 18:00:47 -0800 (PST), -hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
Steven King's The Stand comes always to my mind when viral mutation is discussed.
Obviously it was a work of fiction and obviously there isn't - yet - any virus that can
mutate itself on a time scale of hours or minutes. Still, politicizing disease and
treatment is, to use a phrase Trumpers can understand, a bad thing.
Swill
--
The moon landing was real, Bigfoot does not
roam the northern forests and the 2020 election was not rigged.
GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!
Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!
Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!
Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!
Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>
Obviously it was a work of fiction and obviously there isn't - yet - any virus that can
mutate itself on a time scale of hours or minutes. Still, politicizing disease and
treatment is, to use a phrase Trumpers can understand, a bad thing.
Swill
--
The moon landing was real, Bigfoot does not
roam the northern forests and the 2020 election was not rigged.
GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!
Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!
Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!
Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!
Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>
-hh
Jan 15, 2024, 11:56:36 AMJan 15
to
On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:32:25 AM UTC-5, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 18:00:47 -0800 (PST), -hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> >On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 10:24:34?AM UTC-5, NoBody wrote:
> >> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 06:31:11 -0800, Siri Cruise
> >> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >-hh wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> How about polio? Did you get that shot?
> >> >
> >> >We got sugar cubes at school. And our parents were glad.
> >>
> >> Do you have to get twice yearly "boosters" for polio?
> >
> >Polio’s vaccination schedule calls for four doses.
> >
> >The recommended dose schedule is twice the first year, then
> >another in the second year, and the fourth dose three years later.
> >
> >Plus there’s also an adult booster dose, typically for those traveling to
> >higher risk geographical regions. BTDT.
> >
> >But what allows Polio to be subsequently non-recurring is because we got very
> >lucky genetically in having a target site that’s effectively mutation-resistant.
> >That’s not the case for SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2 viruses: their target site
> >mutates quickly, so it requires constant updating to maintain effectiveness.
>
> Steven King's The Stand comes always to my mind when viral mutation is discussed.
I’ve never read it. Will have to take a look sometime.
> On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 18:00:47 -0800 (PST), -hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> >On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 10:24:34?AM UTC-5, NoBody wrote:
> >> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 06:31:11 -0800, Siri Cruise
> >> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >-hh wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> How about polio? Did you get that shot?
> >> >
> >> >We got sugar cubes at school. And our parents were glad.
> >>
> >> Do you have to get twice yearly "boosters" for polio?
> >
> >Polio’s vaccination schedule calls for four doses.
> >
> >The recommended dose schedule is twice the first year, then
> >another in the second year, and the fourth dose three years later.
> >
> >Plus there’s also an adult booster dose, typically for those traveling to
> >higher risk geographical regions. BTDT.
> >
> >But what allows Polio to be subsequently non-recurring is because we got very
> >lucky genetically in having a target site that’s effectively mutation-resistant.
> >That’s not the case for SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2 viruses: their target site
> >mutates quickly, so it requires constant updating to maintain effectiveness.
>
> Steven King's The Stand comes always to my mind when viral mutation is discussed.
> Obviously it was a work of fiction and obviously there isn't - yet - any virus that
> can mutate itself on a time scale of hours or minutes.
quantity. For example, an infection which has 100,000 active individual
virus cells present means that at an individual virus mutation rate of 1/year,
the overall infection is going to have 11 mutations per *hour.*
> Still, politicizing disease and treatment is, to use a phrase Trumpers
> can understand, a bad thing.
Because own body’s cells mutate too; it’s where our cancers come from.
That rate is 9 cellular mutations per day, which nearly all of the time, our
body identifies it and kills it off with our T cells to keep us cancer-free.
But guess what: we’ve learned that the Covid SARS2 virus *kills* our T cells.
With a decline in T cells, we are wide open for a huge uptick in contracting cancers.
It will probably take another ~5 years for this to become evident in Stage 2/3/4
rates…but it’s already coming for those with Long Covid, which is already ~7.5%
of our population. Guess what that’s going to do to healthcare insurance costs!
-hh
Governor Swill
Jan 16, 2024, 11:41:42 AMJan 16
to
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 08:56:35 -0800 (PST), -hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:32:25?AM UTC-5, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 18:00:47 -0800 (PST), -hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> >On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 10:24:34?AM UTC-5, NoBody wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 06:31:11 -0800, Siri Cruise
>> >> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >-hh wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> How about polio? Did you get that shot?
>> >> >
>> >> >We got sugar cubes at school. And our parents were glad.
>> >>
>> >> Do you have to get twice yearly "boosters" for polio?
>> >
>> >Polio’s vaccination schedule calls for four doses.
>> >
>> >The recommended dose schedule is twice the first year, then
>> >another in the second year, and the fourth dose three years later.
>> >
>> >Plus there’s also an adult booster dose, typically for those traveling to
>> >higher risk geographical regions. BTDT.
>> >
>> >But what allows Polio to be subsequently non-recurring is because we got very
>> >lucky genetically in having a target site that’s effectively mutation-resistant.
>> >That’s not the case for SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2 viruses: their target site
>> >mutates quickly, so it requires constant updating to maintain effectiveness.
>>
>> Steven King's The Stand comes always to my mind when viral mutation is discussed.
>
>I’ve never read it. Will have to take a look sometime.
Even the original, short version is a long read and once the stage is set with the virus,
the rest of the book addresses the human condition. It's King's magnum opus, especially
the unexpurgated author's edit.
>> Obviously it was a work of fiction and obviously there isn't - yet - any virus that
>> can mutate itself on a time scale of hours or minutes.
>
>A more rapid rate only makes the risks higher, because there’s also the
>quantity. For example, an infection which has 100,000 active individual
>virus cells present means that at an individual virus mutation rate of 1/year,
>the overall infection is going to have 11 mutations per *hour.*
>
>> Still, politicizing disease and treatment is, to use a phrase Trumpers
>> can understand, a bad thing.
>
>Particularly as we’re learning more & more about bad Covid SARS2 is.
>
>Because own body’s cells mutate too; it’s where our cancers come from.
>That rate is 9 cellular mutations per day, which nearly all of the time, our
>body identifies it and kills it off with our T cells to keep us cancer-free.
>
>But guess what: we’ve learned that the Covid SARS2 virus *kills* our T cells.
>
>With a decline in T cells, we are wide open for a huge uptick in contracting cancers.
>
>It will probably take another ~5 years for this to become evident in Stage 2/3/4
>rates…but it’s already coming for those with Long Covid, which is already ~7.5%
>of our population. Guess what that’s going to do to healthcare insurance costs!
Ignorance is the bane of human politics.
>On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:32:25?AM UTC-5, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 18:00:47 -0800 (PST), -hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> >On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 10:24:34?AM UTC-5, NoBody wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 06:31:11 -0800, Siri Cruise
>> >> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >-hh wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> How about polio? Did you get that shot?
>> >> >
>> >> >We got sugar cubes at school. And our parents were glad.
>> >>
>> >> Do you have to get twice yearly "boosters" for polio?
>> >
>> >Polio’s vaccination schedule calls for four doses.
>> >
>> >The recommended dose schedule is twice the first year, then
>> >another in the second year, and the fourth dose three years later.
>> >
>> >Plus there’s also an adult booster dose, typically for those traveling to
>> >higher risk geographical regions. BTDT.
>> >
>> >But what allows Polio to be subsequently non-recurring is because we got very
>> >lucky genetically in having a target site that’s effectively mutation-resistant.
>> >That’s not the case for SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2 viruses: their target site
>> >mutates quickly, so it requires constant updating to maintain effectiveness.
>>
>> Steven King's The Stand comes always to my mind when viral mutation is discussed.
>
>I’ve never read it. Will have to take a look sometime.
the rest of the book addresses the human condition. It's King's magnum opus, especially
the unexpurgated author's edit.
>> Obviously it was a work of fiction and obviously there isn't - yet - any virus that
>> can mutate itself on a time scale of hours or minutes.
>
>A more rapid rate only makes the risks higher, because there’s also the
>quantity. For example, an infection which has 100,000 active individual
>virus cells present means that at an individual virus mutation rate of 1/year,
>the overall infection is going to have 11 mutations per *hour.*
>
>> Still, politicizing disease and treatment is, to use a phrase Trumpers
>> can understand, a bad thing.
>
>Particularly as we’re learning more & more about bad Covid SARS2 is.
>
>Because own body’s cells mutate too; it’s where our cancers come from.
>That rate is 9 cellular mutations per day, which nearly all of the time, our
>body identifies it and kills it off with our T cells to keep us cancer-free.
>
>But guess what: we’ve learned that the Covid SARS2 virus *kills* our T cells.
>
>With a decline in T cells, we are wide open for a huge uptick in contracting cancers.
>
>It will probably take another ~5 years for this to become evident in Stage 2/3/4
>rates…but it’s already coming for those with Long Covid, which is already ~7.5%
>of our population. Guess what that’s going to do to healthcare insurance costs!
Bradley K. Sherman
Feb 1, 2024, 7:04:09 AMFeb 1
to
2020
29 Feb 1 (+ 1)
31 Mar 5,210 (+ 5,209)
30 Apr 65,240 (+60,030)
31 May 108,859 (+43,619)
30 Jun 130,448 (+21,581)
31 Jul 157,392 (+26,944)
31 Aug 188,119 (+30,727)
30 Sep 212,088 (+23,969)
31 Oct 236,421 (+24,333)
30 Nov 274,300 (+37,879)
31 Dec 354,215 (+79,915)
2021
31 Jan 452,279 (+98,064)
28 Feb 525,778 (+73,499)
31 Mar 565,256 (+39,478)
30 Apr 592,164 (+26,908)
31 May 609,898 (+17,734)
30 Jun 620,249 (+10,351)
31 Jul 629,315 (+ 9,066)
31 Aug 657,910 (+28,595)
30 Sep 716,847 (+58,937)
31 Oct 766,299 (+49,452)
30 Nov 803,045 (+36,746)
31 Dec 846,905 (+43,860)
2022
31 Jan 910,104 (+63,199)
28 Feb 975,150 (+65,046)
31 Mar 1,007,320 (+32,170)
30 Apr 1,020,833 (+13,513)
31 May 1,031,613 (+10,780)
30 Jun 1,042,678 (+11,065)
31 Jul 1,055,059 (+12,381)
31 Aug 1,071,420 (+16,361)
30 Sep 1,084,803 (+13,383)
31 Oct 1,095,315 (+10,512)
30 Nov 1,105,546 (+10,231)
31 Dec 1,117,983 (+12,437)
2023
31 Jan 1,132,935 (+14,952)
28 Feb 1,145,661 (+12,726)
31 Mar 1,155,069 (+ 9,408)
30 Apr 1,159,839 (+ 4,770)
31 May 1,165,449 (+ 5,610)
30 Jun 1,168,148 (+ 2,699)
31 Jul 1,169,813 (+ 1,665)
31 Aug 1,173,655 (+ 3,842)
30 Sep 1,176,843 (+ 3,188)
31 Oct 1,180,669 (+ 3,826)
30 Nov 1,183,754 (+ 3,085)
31 Dec 1,190,171 (+ 6,417)
2024
31 Jan 1,194,100 (+ 3,929)
<https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
--bks
29 Feb 1 (+ 1)
31 Mar 5,210 (+ 5,209)
30 Apr 65,240 (+60,030)
31 May 108,859 (+43,619)
30 Jun 130,448 (+21,581)
31 Jul 157,392 (+26,944)
31 Aug 188,119 (+30,727)
30 Sep 212,088 (+23,969)
31 Oct 236,421 (+24,333)
30 Nov 274,300 (+37,879)
31 Dec 354,215 (+79,915)
2021
31 Jan 452,279 (+98,064)
28 Feb 525,778 (+73,499)
31 Mar 565,256 (+39,478)
30 Apr 592,164 (+26,908)
31 May 609,898 (+17,734)
30 Jun 620,249 (+10,351)
31 Jul 629,315 (+ 9,066)
31 Aug 657,910 (+28,595)
30 Sep 716,847 (+58,937)
31 Oct 766,299 (+49,452)
30 Nov 803,045 (+36,746)
31 Dec 846,905 (+43,860)
2022
31 Jan 910,104 (+63,199)
28 Feb 975,150 (+65,046)
31 Mar 1,007,320 (+32,170)
30 Apr 1,020,833 (+13,513)
31 May 1,031,613 (+10,780)
30 Jun 1,042,678 (+11,065)
31 Jul 1,055,059 (+12,381)
31 Aug 1,071,420 (+16,361)
30 Sep 1,084,803 (+13,383)
31 Oct 1,095,315 (+10,512)
30 Nov 1,105,546 (+10,231)
31 Dec 1,117,983 (+12,437)
2023
31 Jan 1,132,935 (+14,952)
28 Feb 1,145,661 (+12,726)
31 Mar 1,155,069 (+ 9,408)
30 Apr 1,159,839 (+ 4,770)
31 May 1,165,449 (+ 5,610)
30 Jun 1,168,148 (+ 2,699)
31 Jul 1,169,813 (+ 1,665)
31 Aug 1,173,655 (+ 3,842)
30 Sep 1,176,843 (+ 3,188)
31 Oct 1,180,669 (+ 3,826)
30 Nov 1,183,754 (+ 3,085)
31 Dec 1,190,171 (+ 6,417)
2024
31 Jan 1,194,100 (+ 3,929)
<https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
--bks
Bradley K. Sherman
Feb 22, 2024, 7:38:05 AMFeb 22
to
|
| Covid death toll in US likely 16% higher than official
| tally, study says
|
| Researchers think undercounting goes beyond overloaded
| health systems to a lack of awareness of Covid and low
| levels of testing
|
| The Covid death toll in the US is likely at least 16%
| higher than the official tally, according to a new study,
| and researchers believe the cause of the undercounting goes
| beyond overloaded health systems to a lack of awareness of
| Covid and low levels of testing.
| ...
<https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/21/us-covid-death-rate-testing-reporting>
The study:
<https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2313661121>
--bks
| Covid death toll in US likely 16% higher than official
| tally, study says
|
| Researchers think undercounting goes beyond overloaded
| health systems to a lack of awareness of Covid and low
| levels of testing
|
| The Covid death toll in the US is likely at least 16%
| higher than the official tally, according to a new study,
| and researchers believe the cause of the undercounting goes
| beyond overloaded health systems to a lack of awareness of
| Covid and low levels of testing.
| ...
<https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/21/us-covid-death-rate-testing-reporting>
The study:
<https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2313661121>
--bks
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