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DoJ Has The Goods On Trump

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Bradley K. Sherman

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Aug 10, 2022, 8:35:22 AM8/10/22
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David Laufman, former head of DoJ counter-intelligence:
| ...
| "For the department to pursue a search warrant at
| Mar-a-Lago tells me that the quantum and quality of the
| evidence they were reciting -- in a search warrant and
| affidavit that an FBI agent swore to -- was likely so
| pulverizing in its force as to eviscerate any notion that
| the search warrant and this investigation is politically
| motivated,"
| ...
<https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/why-the-trump-search-warrant-is-nothing-like-hillarys-emails-00050691>

--bks

Ken

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Aug 13, 2022, 11:37:26 AM8/13/22
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If the evidence was so devastating in its force, why did the raid take
place more than two days after receiving the warrant?

Bradley K. Sherman

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Aug 13, 2022, 1:01:41 PM8/13/22
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Ken <K...@invalid.com> wrote:
>Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> David Laufman, former head of DoJ counter-intelligence:
>> | ...
>> | "For the department to pursue a search warrant at
>> | Mar-a-Lago tells me that the quantum and quality of the
>> | evidence they were reciting -- in a search warrant and
>> | affidavit that an FBI agent swore to -- was likely so
>> | pulverizing in its force as to eviscerate any notion that
>> | the search warrant and this investigation is politically
>> | motivated,"
>> | ...
>>
><https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/09/why-the-trump-search-warrant-is-nothing-like-hillarys-emails-00050691>
>
>If the evidence was so devastating in its force, why did the raid take
>place more than two days after receiving the warrant?

You seem very unclear on the timeline. What part of served
a subpoena do you not understand?

--bks

Siri Cruise

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Aug 13, 2022, 3:17:11 PM8/13/22
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In article <td8gfk$2s0vr$1...@dont-email.me>, Ken <K...@invalid.com>
wrote:

> If the evidence was so devastating in its force, why did the raid take
> place more than two days after receiving the warrant?

There were twelve boxes of evidence you are pretending don't
exist.

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Ken

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Aug 13, 2022, 3:56:02 PM8/13/22
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You seem very unclear as what to do if the need for a warrant is
devastating in its force. If it was (pulverizing) devastating, it
should have been done immediately after being signed by the judge, not
2-3 days later.

From the article you cited: "A court-authorized FBI search, like the
one that occurred Monday, would be warranted, Aftergood said, if “the
material is of such extraordinary national security sensitivity that it
absolutely must be within government custody.”

“That’s not something you write letters about,” he added. “That’s
something you need to take custody of now and argue about later.”

NoBody

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Aug 13, 2022, 4:38:33 PM8/13/22
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They executed the warrant as soon as it was practical to do so. They knew the
flim-flammer Trump was not at his dump, and they didn't think anyone there was
going to remove or destroy the *stolen* documents. You can bet they had the
place under surveillance.

Blue Lives Matter

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Aug 13, 2022, 5:15:50 PM8/13/22
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I read the warrant. It looks like a clear violation of the Fourth
Amendment...

no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or
affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and
the persons or things to be seized.

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-4/

AlleyCat

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Aug 13, 2022, 5:21:01 PM8/13/22
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It isn't. You have no expertise in this at all.

>
> no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,

There was.

> supported by Oath or affirmation,

There was.

> and particularly describing the place to be searched,

It did.

> and the persons or things to be seized.

It did.


The search warrant is rock-solid.

governo...@gmail.com

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Aug 13, 2022, 6:12:50 PM8/13/22
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It didn't.

Swill
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"Every investigation thus far makes one conclusion abundantly clear:
Secretary Clinton's fundamental lack of judgment and wanton disregard
for protecting and keeping information confidential raises continued
questions about the exposure of our nation's diplomatic and national
security secrets,"
Kevin McCarthy (R) commenting on the Mar a Lago search August 09, 2022

governo...@gmail.com

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Aug 13, 2022, 6:16:41 PM8/13/22
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Who said anything about "2 - 3 days"? What you've posted says nothing
about any delay and includes no dates. Post your evidence of any
delay between signing and when the search warrant was executed.

Siri Cruise

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Aug 13, 2022, 8:04:59 PM8/13/22
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In article <td8vkf$2tdkl$1...@dont-email.me>, Ken <K...@invalid.com>
wrote:

> should have been done immediately after being signed by the judge, not
> 2-3 days later.

Tough shit. It's called prosecutorial discretion.

NoBody

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Aug 13, 2022, 8:15:04 PM8/13/22
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The magistrate judge Bruce Reinhart approved the search warrant on Friday, Aug
5. The warrant was executed and the search conducted on Monday, Aug 8. That's
three days after the warrant was approved, dummy.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-08-12/timeline-of-events-leading-to-fbi-search-of-trumps-home

governo...@gmail.com

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Aug 14, 2022, 12:20:16 AM8/14/22
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I expect the timing is up to the local office. Best thing to do is
ask them.

BeamMeUpScotty

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Aug 14, 2022, 7:17:09 AM8/14/22
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Attempt number 5,6 or 7 to find a paperwork crime for papers or
transcripts or leakers they call ( *whistle-blowers* to protect the
Democrat liars and leakers from prosecution) they say they have
information that's evidence of a crime that turns out to... either NOT
be a crime at all or has been faked by the FBI and the "Democrat
whistle-blowers" which is their euphemism for *LYING DEMOCRATS* isn't it?

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others means their attempts to figure-out what's wrong is an exercise in
futility, because what they think they know they really don't know, and
fixing problems without the truth... becomes a fools errand.

BeamMeUpScotty

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Aug 14, 2022, 10:02:29 AM8/14/22
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There are no "GOODS" to have on TRUMP so it must be yet another lie...
as President TRUMP was the Executive that is the Executive Branch all
others in the executive Branch are employed BY the President. They are
there to work for the President, the President tells them what to do,
they don't tell the President what he can or can't do. The Supreme court
will do that. Because the limits to the Presidency are contained in
what is written in the Constitution. There are no laws that restrict
the the president unless they are based on the delegated powers in the
Constitution. And NATIONAL security and Classified material in the
executive branch is the purview of the President who creates the
Executive Orders that makes things classified.


NO crime here to claim are the "goods" in the first place. You'd need an
actual crime that took place, and you haven't got one, so there are no
goods to have on TRUMP.

governo...@gmail.com

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Aug 14, 2022, 3:48:00 PM8/14/22
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 00:18:40 -0400, governo...@gmail.com wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 17:15:00 -0700, NoBody <NoB...@noplace.com> wrote:
>
>>On 8/13/2022 3:15 PM, governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2022 14:55:57 -0500, Ken <K...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> You seem very unclear as what to do if the need for a warrant is
>>>> devastating in its force. If it was (pulverizing) devastating, it
>>>> should have been done immediately after being signed by the judge, not
>>>> 2-3 days later.
>>>>
>>>> From the article you cited: "A court-authorized FBI search, like the
>>>> one that occurred Monday, would be warranted, Aftergood said, if “the
>>>> material is of such extraordinary national security sensitivity that it
>>>> absolutely must be within government custody.”
>>>>
>>>> “That’s not something you write letters about,” he added. “That’s
>>>> something you need to take custody of now and argue about later.”
>>>
>>> Who said anything about "2 - 3 days"? What you've posted says nothing
>>> about any delay and includes no dates. Post your evidence of any
>>> delay between signing and when the search warrant was executed.
>>
>>The magistrate judge Bruce Reinhart approved the search warrant on Friday, Aug
>>5. The warrant was executed and the search conducted on Monday, Aug 8. That's
>>three days after the warrant was approved, dummy.
>>
>>https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-08-12/timeline-of-events-leading-to-fbi-search-of-trumps-home
>
>I expect the timing is up to the local office. Best thing to do is
>ask them.

Here's Ken's/Nobody's (actually Ruby's) answer.

"Two days earlier, on Friday, a federal magistrate judge in West Palm
Beach had approved the search warrant. That meant the judge had
reviewed a sealed filing describing steps taken in the investigation
so far and found there was probable cause that evidence of a crime
would be located at the 17-acre club property.

"When agents arrived Monday morning, Trump’s team scrambled to
respond."

The warrant was signed Friday and executed next business day.
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