Iowa governor bans LGBTQ school discussions

[Leroy N. Soetoro]

https://www.newsnationnow.com/lgbtq/iowa-governor-bans-lgbtq-school-
discussions/

Updated: MAY 27, 2023 / 04:33 PM CDT

FILE – Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds speaks during a rally in Des Moines, Iowa.,
on March 9, 2022. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall, File)

(The Hill) — Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds, a Republican, signed a bill into law
on Friday that restricts lessons on gender identity and sexual orientation
in schools from kindergarten through sixth grade.

Reynolds announced her signature on the bill and a few others relating to
education in a release, calling education the “great equalizer” and saying
that everyone involved in education — parents, teachers and students —
should have an environment to “thrive.”

“This legislative session, we secured transformational education reform
that puts parents in the driver’s seat, eliminates burdensome regulations
on public schools, provides flexibility to raise teacher salaries, and
empowers teachers to prepare our kids for their future,” she said.

The law bans teachers from raising issues of sexual orientation and gender
identity in class through grade six and orders the removal of all books
depicting sexual acts from school libraries. But religious texts are
exempt from the book ban.

The law is similar to others that have passed in several Republican-led
states to restrict discussions of these topics in classrooms, perhaps most
notably Florida’s Parental Rights in Education Act, which opponents have
slammed as the “Don’t Say Gay” bill.

All Democrats in the state legislature had opposed the bill, but
Republicans hold comfortable majorities in both the state House and Senate
and passed it last month.

The law also requires school administrators to notify parents if a student
requests to have their pronouns or names used in school changed. Schools
will also be required to post a list of books in their libraries online
and instructions for parents on how to review them and classroom materials
and request that certain material be removed.

Parents will also need to give their approval before schools can
administer surveys to students on various topics like mental health, sex
and political affiliation, under the new law.

Republicans have argued that the law is common sense to keep parents
involved in education and not have teachers discuss sexuality in class.
But Democrats and LGBTQ groups said the law will prevent students from
being able to be open with teachers about their own sexual orientation and
gender identity and see their own experiences reflected in materials.

Reynolds previously signed two bills into law in March to ban gender-
affirming care for minors and prevent transgender students from using the
bathroom or locker room in schools that matches their gender identity.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.



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[Just Wondering]

On 6/2/2023 3:56 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
> https://www.newsnationnow.com/lgbtq/iowa-governor-bans-lgbtq-school-
> discussions/
>
> Updated: MAY 27, 2023 / 04:33 PM CDT
>
> FILE – Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds speaks during a rally in Des Moines, Iowa.,
> on March 9, 2022. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall, File)
>
> (The Hill) — Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds, a Republican, signed a bill into law
> on Friday that restricts lessons on gender identity and sexual orientation
> in schools from kindergarten through sixth grade.
>

Good. Kindergarten teachers should not be discussing sex with their
students.

[Siri Cruise]

Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
> Reynolds announced her signature on the bill and a few others relating to
> education in a release, calling education the “great equalizer” and saying
> that everyone involved in education — parents, teachers and students —
> should have an environment to “thrive.”

And she can be so proud when teenage suicides thrive.

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[😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅]

On 6/3/2023 9:31 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>> Reynolds announced her signature on the bill and a few others
>> relating to
>> education in a release, calling education the “great equalizer” and
>> saying
>> that everyone involved in education — parents, teachers and students —
>> should have an environment to “thrive.”
>
> And she can be so proud when teenage suicides thrive.
>

The alternative is high-school grads can't read, write and do math.

[Siri Cruise]

Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina!
~~ Kindergarten Cop

[😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅]

On 6/3/2023 9:49 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 6/2/2023 3:56 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>>> https://www.newsnationnow.com/lgbtq/iowa-governor-bans-lgbtq-school-
>>> discussions/
>>>
>>> Updated: MAY 27, 2023 / 04:33 PM CDT
>>>
>>> FILE – Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds speaks during a rally in Des Moines,
>>> Iowa.,
>>> on March 9, 2022. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall, File)
>>>
>>> (The Hill) — Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds, a Republican, signed a bill
>>> into law
>>> on Friday that restricts lessons on gender identity and sexual
>>> orientation
>>> in schools from kindergarten through sixth grade.
>>>
>> Good.  Kindergarten teachers should not be discussing sex with their
>> students.
>
> Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina!
> ~~  Kindergarten Cop
>

What about bi and non?

[NoBody]

On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 06:31:53 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>> Reynolds announced her signature on the bill and a few others relating to
>> education in a release, calling education the “great equalizer” and saying
>> that everyone involved in education — parents, teachers and students —
>> should have an environment to “thrive.”
>
>And she can be so proud when teenage suicides thrive.

Support your claim that allowing transitions reduces suicide rates.

[NoBody]

Where did you get the idea school is for actual education. It exists
for indoctrination.

[NoBody]

On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 06:49:21 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 6/2/2023 3:56 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>>> https://www.newsnationnow.com/lgbtq/iowa-governor-bans-lgbtq-school-
>>>
>>> discussions/
>>>
>>> Updated: MAY 27, 2023 / 04:33 PM CDT
>>>
>>> FILE – Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds speaks during a rally in Des
>>> Moines, Iowa.,
>>> on March 9, 2022. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall, File)
>>>
>>> (The Hill) — Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds, a Republican, signed a bill
>>> into law
>>> on Friday that restricts lessons on gender identity and sexual
>>> orientation
>>> in schools from kindergarten through sixth grade.
>>>
>> Good.  Kindergarten teachers should not be discussing sex with
>> their students.
>
>Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina!
>~~ Kindergarten Cop

Even that little kid is smarter than you.

[Lee]

Since when does "allowing" a private
medical treatment have to be justified?

You want the government to ban it,
show us why that is necessary.

[NoBody]

On Sun, 04 Jun 2023 16:19:35 +0000, "Lee" <cle...@gmail.com> wrote:

>NoBody wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 06:31:53 -0700, Siri Cruise
>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>> >> Reynolds announced her signature on the bill and a few others
>> relating to >> education in a release, calling education the “great
>> equalizer” and saying >> that everyone involved in education —
>> parents, teachers and students — >> should have an environment to
>> “thrive.”
>> >
>> > And she can be so proud when teenage suicides thrive.
>>
>> Support your claim that allowing transitions reduces suicide rates.
>
>
>
> Since when does "allowing" a private
>medical treatment have to be justified?
>

Pay attention! He claimed that transitioning reduces suicide.

> You want the government to ban it,
>show us why that is necessary.

You mean other than normalizing mental illness increases it's
frequency in society? One only needs to look at the trans movement
for that evidence...duh.
>
>
>
>
>

[Lee]

If it is a mental illness
then it needs treatment. Why
are Republicans trying BAN
treatment?

[Siri Cruise]

NoBody wrote:
> Pay attention! He claimed that transitioning reduces suicide.

https://www.thetrevorproject.org/

[NoBody]

Because normalizing it and humoring a mental illness is NOT treating
it...diuh.
>

[NoBody]

On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 10:18:56 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>NoBody wrote:
>> Pay attention! He claimed that transitioning reduces suicide.
>https://www.thetrevorproject.org/

Independant research please.

[Lee]

Treating a medical condition
is "normalizing" ot?

[Siri Cruise]

Lee wrote:
>> Because normalizing it and humoring a mental illness is NOT treating
>> it...diuh.
>
> Treating a medical condition
> is "normalizing" ot?

https://time.com/6074783/psychiatry-history-women-mental-health/

On a hot summer’s night in June 1860, the heavy door of the insane
asylum clanged shut behind Elizabeth Packard and she felt all hope
desert her.

Because she was not mad. She was merely independent.

Yet according to 19th century psychiatry, female independence was
madness. Elizabeth, a housewife and mother of six, had simply
stood up to her domineering husband. As she would record in a
defense of her sanity that she wrote while in the asylum, she’d
insisted, “I, though a woman, have just as good a right to my
opinion as my husband has to his”—but assertive women in those
days were swiftly dispatched to asylums, institutionalized for
causing “the greatest annoyances to the family” and for defying
“all domestic control.” No wonder Elizabeth had found herself on
the wrong side of a locked ward door in the Jacksonville Insane
Asylum, in Illinois.

The received medical wisdom of the age was that assertive,
ambitious women were unnatural, and therefore sick. For centuries,
women’s natures had been thought inextricably linked to their
reproductive organs and, over time, this supposedly scientific
fact had evolved into the belief that it was natural for women to
be fulfilled solely by being wives and mothers. When, in the 19th
century, biological-based gender roles came to the fore (work and
intellect for men, home and children for women), it was one small
step for doctors to declare that any woman who rejected her
submissive, domestic role was medically impaired. Said one doctor
after visiting a girls’ school in 1858: “You seem to be training
your girls for the lunatic asylum.” Women who studied or read—or
who simply had minds of their own and a determination to use
them—were demonstrating “eccentricity of conduct,” which meant
they were “morally insane,” a diagnosis invented by James Cowles
Prichard in 1835. They were to be locked away until they conformed
to more natural, feminine behavior.

[Rightist Indoctrination]

>Where did you get the idea school is for actual education. It exists
>for indoctrination.
>

Don't go to school unless you want to end up a lefty.


That's why rightists go to church and not to school, they also like the
sex.


Child sex abuse happens across Protestant and evangelical churches - and,
at times, at a higher rate.

An investigation by The Associated Press recently found three insurance
companies in the United States that provide liability coverage for 165,000
Protestant churches typically receive 260 reports every year of children
being sexually abused by Protestant clergy or other staff.

In 2013, Boz Tchividjian, a Liberty University law professor, said the
Christian mission field is a "magnet" for sexual abusers.

Tchividjian, a grandson of the late evangelist the Rev. Billy Graham,
excoriated evangelicals for turning a blind eye to abuse among their
ranks.

The Presbyterian Church

In recent years, the Presbyterian Church, one of the most progressive
mainline denominations, has been rocked by child sexual abuse cases. The
majority of cases involved the children of missionaries serving overseas
from the 1950s to 1990.

In the wake of mounting allegations, the church commissioned an
independent panel to investigate the reports. The panel found that at
least nine individuals, including ministers ordained with the
denomination, had abused children.

A similar investigation in 2002 found "overwhelming" evidence that at
least 22 girls and women had been sexually abused by a Presbyterian
minister and missionary over a 40-year period.

The abuse took place in Africa and the United States.

Matt York/AP

Southern Baptists

A survey by the Journal of Pastoral Care in 1993 found that 14 percent of
Southern Baptist ministers said they had engaged in "inappropriate sexual
behavior."

By 2000, a report to the Baptist General Convention found the incidence of
sexual abuse by clergy had reached "horrific proportions." Victims
advocates have derided church leadership for protecting predators and
covering up crimes.

In 2016 the Southern Baptist Convention elected Steve Gaines as its
president. A few years earlier, Gaines, at the time head of a Memphis,
Tennessee, church was implicated in clergy child molestation case.
Investigators said Gaines knew for years that one of his ministers had
sexually molested a child. Gaines neither reported the crime to police or
his congregation, police said.

Jehovah's Witnesses

Leaked internal documents this year catapulted the Jehovah's Witnesses
church unto the child sex crimes roster.

The insular church discouraged victims of sexual abuse from reporting the
abuse, the documents showed.

The leaked documents exposed sexual abuse accusations from three accusers
against a member of the church. The documents outline the efforts by the
church to cover up the scandal and keep it from the "worldly court of
law."

Since the news broke, hundreds of church members have come forward with
their own accounts of abuse. Attorneys believe there are thousands of
victims involved.

Predators: not so much pastors but volunteers

The majority of accused predators in faith settings are not clergy or
staff but church volunteers.

That is according to the Christian Ministry Resources, which serves more
than 75,000 congregations and 1,000 denominational agencies nationwide.

Annual surveys from the organization suggest that in recent years, the
pace of child-abuse allegations against American churches has averaged 70
a week.


Ultra-orthodox Jews

The New York community of ultra-Orthodox Jews has faced a backlash for
asking observant Jews to consult a rabbi instead of going immediately to
police with evidence of child sexual abuse.

Similar cases have sprung in other cities, including Baltimore and Miami,
involving allegations of sexual misconduct by orthodox Jewish leaders.

The case involving Rabbi Shmuel Krawatsky, formerly of the Beth Tfiloh
Dahan Community School in Baltimore, involves the alleged abuse of at
least three boys at a summer camp.

According to a report by The Jewish Week, the rabbi, who was naked and
alone in a pool changing room with two alleged victims, touched the boys
inappropriately before asking them to touch his "private parts" in
exchange for $100."

The report also states that the rabbi threatened the young boys not to
tell their parents.

Given the faith's shroud of secrecy there is no hard data regarding the
number of potential abuse victims in the Orthodox Jewish community.
Experts estimate that there could be thousands of victims dating back
decades.

The principle of mesirah forbids reporting a Jewish practitioner to
secular authorities. Issues are supposed to be handled internally within
the greater faith community.



Dennis Hastert

In 2016, Dennis Hastert, the longest-serving Republican Speaker of the
House in U.S. history, was sentenced to 15 months in federal prison for
structuring payouts in order to cover up the sexual abuses he perpetrated
as a wrestling coach in Illinois decades ago.

"The thing I want to do is say I'm sorry to those I've hurt and misled.
They looked at me and I took advantage of them," Hastert told a judge.

U.S. District Judge Thomas Durkin called Hastert "a serial child
molester."

Hastert was released last year from a federal prison in Minnesota after
serving nearly 13 months.

The former Republican powerhouse was ordered to serve two years of court-
ordered supervised release .


Jerry Sandusky

Former Penn State football coach Jerry Sandusky is serving up to 60 years
in prison for sexually abusing 10 boys between 1994 and 2009.

Sandusky targeted his victims from among the boys who attended his Second
Mile camp, a charity that he ran for at-risk youth. He was convicted of 45
of 48 counts of child sexual abuse against young boys from the charity

Banned swimming coaches

Approximately 150 youth swimming coaches have been banned for life as a
result of credible child sex crimes allegations against them.

In 2010, Andy King, a coach with a California aquatics club, was charged
with 20 counts of lewd acts with girls 15 and younger. He was sentenced to
40 years in prison for molesting girls training with the San Jose Aquatics
Club. King was alleged to have impregnated one of his victims when she was
14.

In 2008, Central Indiana Aquatics coach Brian Hindson was accused of
setting up hidden cameras in locker rooms. He pleaded guilty to charges
including distribution, production and possession of child pornography and
was sentenced to 33 years in prison.

A coach who failed to step up

Chuch Wielgus, who served as executive director of USA Swimming for nearly
20 years, came under fire for his handling of sex abuse cases.

In 2014, more than four years after rebuking culpability, Wielgus
apologized to victims and acknowledged that he should have done more to
protect athletes.

He wrote in a blog post: "I wish my eyes had been more open to the
individual stories of the horrors of sexual abuse. I wish I had known more
so perhaps I could have done more."



Young children have long been taught about "stranger danger," but, in
fact, most perpetrators are individuals close to a child, including a day
care worker or volunteer. According to federal health authorities,
pedophiles and child molesters, in general:

tend to be male
can be heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual
range in age from teens to midlife
are usually a relative, friend, or neighbor of the child
carry the abuse out in the home of the victim
often claim that they themselves were victims of childhood sexual
abuse.

The majority of victims are girls. When boys are victims, the sexual abuse
tends to take place outside the home, and the perpetrator may be a
stranger.

[NIMBY DONALD]

>You mean other than normalizing mental illness increases it's
>frequency in society? One only needs to look at the trans movement

Rightists have normalized pedophila in the church.



It's morally imperative that the predominantly conservative Protestant and
Catholic clergy have the children to themselves for sex. That's why
there's a war on LGBTQIA+ for they are perceived to be
competition.

As you can see, religious fanatics should be prohibited from reproducing.

Wielgus died in 2017.

Millions of children abused by teachers

Schools are supposed to be a safe environment for children, but they can
actually be one of the most dangerous places for children with regards to
sexual abuse.

A study commissioned by the U.S. Department of Education found that up to
7 percent of all middle and high school students were the targets of
physical sexual abuse by teachers, coaches and other adults working in the
school system.

That statistic puts the number of young teens sexually abused by teachers
and other school adults in the millions.

A 2015 report found that just under 500 educators were arrested in
connection to child sex crimes:

3.5 million students (grades 8th-11th) reported having had physical
sexual contact from an adult (most often a teacher or coach).
4.5 million children reported being shown pornography or being
subjected to sexually explicit language or exhibitionism.

According to a report by The Washington Post, 35 percent of educators
convicted or accused of sexual misconduct with children had used social
media to gain access to their victims.

[Governor Swill]

Yes, "normal" changes over time. Take away electricity and see what changes happen to
"normal".

Swill
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[😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅]

Well… the word “woman” comes from the Old English “wifman (wifmon)”
which is a combination of wif (female, wife) and man (man, human). Woman
literally means “wife of man,” thus establishing men as the standard and
women as an appendage.

https://www.siue.edu/diversity/the-hub/signature-programs-events/phenomenal-women/Why_The_Asterisk.shtml

[Siri Cruise]

😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
> Well… the word “woman” comes from the Old English “wifman
> (wifmon)” which is a combination of wif (female, wife) and man
> (man, human). Woman literally means “wife of man,” thus
> establishing men as the standard and women as an appendage.

'mon' does not mean a male. It's translated as 'one' or 'person'.
A male was 'wer' as in modern 'weregild' or 'werewolf'. 'wifmon'
would analyze as 'female person'. 'wif' was displacing 'cwen' to
mean 'wife' so 'wifmon' was any female adult and not just a 'wif'.

[😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅]

On 6/7/2023 1:00 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
>> Well… the word “woman” comes from the Old English “wifman (wifmon)”
>> which is a combination of wif (female, wife) and man (man, human).
>> Woman literally means “wife of man,” thus establishing men as the
>> standard and women as an appendage.
>
> 'mon' does not mean a male. It's translated as 'one' or 'person'. A
> male was 'wer' as in modern 'weregild' or 'werewolf'. 'wifmon' would
> analyze as 'female person'. 'wif' was displacing 'cwen' to mean 'wife'
> so 'wifmon' was any female adult and not just a 'wif'.
>

Woman was not counted because man was the standard and woman was an
appendage. A woman was not even counted as a person in law. Are you old
enough to remember "he", "him", and "his" were the pronouns used in the
law books, not "he/she", "him/her" or "his/her/hers". It was clarified
after the "women's liberation movement" that the male pronouns used in
law also include the female population. "The West" was as repressive as
the Muslims.

[Siri Cruise]

😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:

> Are you old enough to remember "he", "him", and "his" were the

> pronouns used in the law books. The pronouns used in english for wifmon were he/hine/his/him 'he/him/his/him' because wifmon is masculine.

[NoBody]

It's a mental illness not a physical medical condition. We don't
promote or normalize people throwing up if they have anorexia, we
treat them to *eliminate* the disease.
>

[NoBody]

Up next - normalizing pedos. It's already underway. Just because
people exhibt traits doesn't mean society should accept it.

[NoBody]

And Lying Lee has vanished.

[NoBody]

I'll have to assume that Swill is for this movement since he doesn't
seem to have an opinion on this.

[Lee]

In that case you agree with
people getting medical treatment.

> not a physical medical condition. We don't
> promote or normalize people throwing up if they have anorexia, we

> treat them to eliminate the disease.


Just post your proof that
treating a medical condition
is "normalizing" it.

[Blue Lives Matter]

Of course. For their mental illness.

[NoBody]

Yep but mental illness treatment does not involve humoring the ill
person to tell them it's fine.

>
>> not a physical medical condition. We don't
>> promote or normalize people throwing up if they have anorexia, we
>> treat them to eliminate the disease.
>
>
> Just post your proof that
>treating a medical condition
>is "normalizing" it.
>

Pay attention! That's not what I said.

[Lee]

So you agree doctors should be able
to treat gender dysphoria according to
accepted medical practice.

>
> >> not a physical medical condition. We don't
> >> promote or normalize people throwing up if they have anorexia, we
> >> treat them to eliminate the disease.
> >
> >
> > Just post your proof that
> > treating a medical condition
> > is "normalizing" it.
> >

--

[Lee]

That is a medical decision
for doctors, not a political
decision for legislators

>
> >
> >> not a physical medical condition. We don't
> >> promote or normalize people throwing up if they have anorexia, we
> >> treat them to eliminate the disease.
> >
> >
> > Just post your proof that
> > treating a medical condition
> > is "normalizing" it.
> >
>
> Pay attention! That's not what I said.

"Because normalizing it and
humoring a mental illness is
NOT treating it...diuh."

Who is "normalizing" it?

[Blue Lives Matter]

Not if it involves surgery or hormones for minors. Adults wanting to
screw up their bodies is fine with me.

[NoBody]

That isn't what he said. Your definition of "treatment" (allowing the
mentally ill to live in their delusional state) is not actual
treatment.

[NoBody]

Cause nothing says "we love our kids" than encouraging to live in
their mental illness by altering their biochemistry and hacking them
up...

[NoBody]

Look at you thinking doctors are above the law!

>> >
>> >> not a physical medical condition. We don't
>> >> promote or normalize people throwing up if they have anorexia, we
>> >> treat them to eliminate the disease.
>> >
>> >
>> > Just post your proof that
>> > treating a medical condition
>> > is "normalizing" it.
>> >
>>
>> Pay attention! That's not what I said.
>
>
>
>"Because normalizing it and
>humoring a mental illness is
>NOT treating it...diuh."

Waiting for your to refute that, not what you *think* it means.

>
>
> Who is "normalizing" it?

Normalizing something is not treating something. It's calling an
abberation normal. Damn you're dumb.
>
>
>

[Siri Cruise]

In which state did you get your medical license?

[Lee]

Look at you thinking politicians know
more about proper medical treatments
than doctors.

>
> >> >
> >> >> not a physical medical condition. We don't
> >> >> promote or normalize people throwing up if they have anorexia,
> we >> >> treat them to eliminate the disease.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Just post your proof that
> >> > treating a medical condition
> >> > is "normalizing" it.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Pay attention! That's not what I said.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Because normalizing it and
> > humoring a mental illness is
> > NOT treating it...diuh."
>

> Waiting for your to refute that, not what you think it means.


This is your claim, back it up with proof.

>
> >
> >
> > Who is "normalizing" it?
>
> Normalizing something is not treating something.

So getting treatment is NOT "normalizing" it!

By your definition........

> It's calling an abberation normal.

Is lap band surgery "normalizing" obesity?

Is Viagra "normalizing" erectile disfunction?

Is Antabuse "normalizing" alcoholism?

[NoBody]

And around you go again...

>
>>
>> >> >
>> >> >> not a physical medical condition. We don't
>> >> >> promote or normalize people throwing up if they have anorexia,
>> we >> >> treat them to eliminate the disease.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Just post your proof that
>> >> > treating a medical condition
>> >> > is "normalizing" it.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Pay attention! That's not what I said.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Because normalizing it and
>> > humoring a mental illness is
>> > NOT treating it...diuh."
>>
>> Waiting for your to refute that, not what you think it means.
>
>
> This is your claim, back it up with proof.

Proof not necessary. t's self-evident (except to morons). Tell an
alchoholic that it's perfectly fine that they drink themselves to
death or an anorexic patient to just go throw up so they feel better.
How well does that work?

>
>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Who is "normalizing" it?
>>
>> Normalizing something is not treating something.
>
>
> So getting treatment is NOT "normalizing" it!

No, you dimbulb. Treating a mental illness is not done by telling
them to pursue it and we all should accept it.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[Lee]

Doctors prescribing drugs to treat
alcoholism = good, doctors prescribing
drugs to treat gender dysphoria = bad.

Does that cover it?

> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Who is "normalizing" it?
> >>
> >> Normalizing something is not treating something.
> >
> >
> > So getting treatment is NOT "normalizing" it!
>
> No, you dimbulb. Treating a mental illness is not done by telling
> them to pursue it and we all should accept it.

So what do you want people with
a "mental illness" to do about it?

>
> By your definition........
>
>
>> It's calling an abberation normal.
>

So you don't want people with
with gender dysphoria to get medical
treatment and you DO want them to get
treatment for it.

>
>
>
> Is lap band surgery "normalizing" obesity?
>

Well?

> Is Viagra "normalizing" erectile disfunction?
>

Well?


> Is Antabuse "normalizing" alcoholism?


Well?

[NoBody]

The drugs to treat alchoholism are used to STOP the mental disease not
further it.

Duh....

>
>
>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Who is "normalizing" it?
>> >>
>> >> Normalizing something is not treating something.
>> >
>> >
>> > So getting treatment is NOT "normalizing" it!
>>
>> No, you dimbulb. Treating a mental illness is not done by telling
>> them to pursue it and we all should accept it.
>
>
> So what do you want people with
>a "mental illness" to do about it?
>

Treatment for a disease is meant to control it not increase it.

Duh...

>
>>
>> By your definition........
>>
>>
>>> It's calling an abberation normal.
>>
>
> So you don't want people with
>with gender dysphoria to get medical
>treatment and you DO want them to get
>treatment for it.

You're as dumb as a post.

>
>>
>>
>>
>> Is lap band surgery "normalizing" obesity?
>>
>
> Well?

Sigh. The above is to stop obesity not allow it to continue.

Duh...

>
>
>> Is Viagra "normalizing" erectile disfunction?

The above is to stop a medical condition and not allow it to continue.

Duh...

>>
>
> Well?
>
>
>> Is Antabuse "normalizing" alcoholism?
>
>
> Well?
>
>

You're too dumb for words.
>
>

[Lee]

You think alcoholism can be "stopped"?

LOL!

https://nexusrecoveryservices.com/alcoholism/can-alcoholism-be-cured/

>
> >
> >
> >
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Who is "normalizing" it?
> >> >>
> >> >> Normalizing something is not treating something.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > So getting treatment is NOT "normalizing" it!
> >>
> >> No, you dimbulb. Treating a mental illness is not done by telling
> >> them to pursue it and we all should accept it.
> >
> >
> > So what do you want people with
> > a "mental illness" to do about it?
> >
>
> Treatment for a disease is meant to control it not increase it.
>

What treatment for what disease is
trying to increase it?

> Duh...
>
> >
> > >
> >> By your definition........
> > >
> > >
> >>> It's calling an abberation normal.
> > >
> >
> > So you don't want people with
> > with gender dysphoria to get medical
> > treatment and you DO want them to get
> > treatment for it.
>
> You're as dumb as a post.
>
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >> Is lap band surgery "normalizing" obesity?
> > >
> >
> > Well?
>
> Sigh. The above is to stop obesity not allow it to continue.
>
> Duh...

Weren't you just telling us that
surgery shouldn't be used to treat
a mental condition?

>
> >
> >
> >> Is Viagra "normalizing" erectile disfunction?
>
> The above is to stop a medical condition and not allow it to continue.
>
> Duh...

Who are you to decide what constitutes
a medical condition?

>
> > >
> >
> > Well?
> >
> >
> >> Is Antabuse "normalizing" alcoholism?
> >
> >
> > Well?
> >
> >
>
> You're too dumb for words.

Even you cannot defend your "treating
a medical condition is normalizing it" claim.

[NoBody]

Would the better choice of word be "supressed"? In either case,
treatment is aimed at *reducing or eliminating* the disease. The
"treatment" for trans is neither.

Duh....

>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Who is "normalizing" it?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Normalizing something is not treating something.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > So getting treatment is NOT "normalizing" it!
>> >>
>> >> No, you dimbulb. Treating a mental illness is not done by telling
>> >> them to pursue it and we all should accept it.
>> >
>> >
>> > So what do you want people with
>> > a "mental illness" to do about it?
>> >
>>
>> Treatment for a disease is meant to control it not increase it.
>>
>
>
> What treatment for what disease is
>trying to increase it?

Rearrange your word salad please. That's not what I said.

Duh....

>
>
>
>
>> Duh...
>>
>> >
>> > >
>> >> By your definition........
>> > >
>> > >
>> >>> It's calling an abberation normal.
>> > >
>> >
>> > So you don't want people with
>> > with gender dysphoria to get medical
>> > treatment and you DO want them to get
>> > treatment for it.
>>
>> You're as dumb as a post.
>>
>>

Glad you don't disagree with me.

>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >> Is lap band surgery "normalizing" obesity?
>> > >
>> >
>> > Well?
>>
>> Sigh. The above is to stop obesity not allow it to continue.
>>
>> Duh...
>
>
> Weren't you just telling us that
>surgery shouldn't be used to treat
>a mental condition?
>

Lousy analogy since the surgery restores it to normal function, not
turn it into a garden hose.

Duh....

>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >> Is Viagra "normalizing" erectile disfunction?
>>
>> The above is to stop a medical condition and not allow it to continue.
>>
>> Duh...
>
>
> Who are you to decide what constitutes
>a medical condition?

Who says I am? I defining what the purpose of *treatment* is.

Duh....
Duh....
DUH....

>
>
>>
>> > >
>> >
>> > Well?
>> >
>> >
>> >> Is Antabuse "normalizing" alcoholism?
>> >
>> >
>> > Well?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> You're too dumb for words.
>
>
> Even you cannot defend your "treating
>a medical condition is normalizing it" claim.
>

If you're going to rest on this argument, at least get what I'm saying
correctly instead of changing what I've said.

Also learn what the term "normalizing" is when it comes to a mental
illness.

Oy vey!

[Siri Cruise]

NoBody wrote:
> Also learn what the term "normalizing" is when it comes to a mental
> illness.

It means you're still trying to overturn the 14th.

[NoBody]

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 14:23:41 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>NoBody wrote:
>> Also learn what the term "normalizing" is when it comes to a mental
>> illness.
>
>It means you're still trying to overturn the 14th.

What?

Siri: "Hic!"

[NoBody]

And Lying Lee has fled.