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Tracey12

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Nov 7, 2012, 7:07:09 AM11/7/12
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According to democrats, because Obama won by a slim margin, there can
be no opposition to Obama, thus the Republican and Independent parties
must become much more liberal and comply and conform to the demands of
the very liberal democrat party.

Never in a 1000 years!!!

We Conservatives must do all we can to stop the forward march of
socialism and communism, as well as globalism.

Never ever give in! Never comply! Never conform!

Our values are the right values. Obama won by a slim margin. At least
half of America agrees with us. Now we must teach those who do not
know the difference between the radical left and Conservatism.

NEVER GIVE IN NO MATTER WHAT THE LEFT SAYS!

Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names

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Nov 7, 2012, 8:05:15 AM11/7/12
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 04:07:09 -0800 (PST), Tracey12
<tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:

>According to democrats, because Obama won by a slim margin, there can
>be no opposition to Obama, thus the Republican and Independent parties
>must become much more liberal and comply and conform to the demands of
>the very liberal democrat party.


According to Dick Cheney, when GWBush squeaked out victories over Gore
and Kerry, Bush had a "mandate."

Obama has a MANDATE.

Tracey12

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Nov 7, 2012, 8:30:02 AM11/7/12
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On Nov 7, 7:05 am, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
<PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> According to Dick Cheney, when GWBush squeaked out victories over Gore
> and Kerry, Bush had a "mandate."
>
> Obama has a MANDATE.

Obama has a headache,

Even before Obamacare kicks in fully, Obama is running up a 1.2
Trillion dollar increase in the debt each year. In four more, that
will add 5 Trillion more to the 6 Trillion he's already racked up.
And, we are not counting the costs of Obamacare or any other insanity
he might pass.

Therefore, in 4 years, our debt will be the current 16 Trillion plus
an additional 5 Trillion at the very minimum.

With 21 Trillion in debt, our GDP won't touch it since its only 14 to
15 Trillion per year. We will be fully bankrupt and since we are
already using the Federal Reserve to print money for a large portion
of the annual deficit, we may not find anyone who will loan us a
dime. At that point, the USD crashes in value, and the Obama
Depression will look like a nothing compared to the horrible economic
disaster that we will face then.

I beg someone to tell me how we avoid this event. Many are saying it
is going to happen.



Ramon F. Herrera

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Nov 7, 2012, 8:33:23 AM11/7/12
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On Nov 7, 6:07 am, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> According to democrats, because Obama won by a slim margin, there can
> be no opposition to Obama, thus the Republican and Independent parties
> must become much more liberal and comply and conform to the demands of
> the very liberal democrat party.
>
> Never in a 1000 years!!!

No need to wait that long - Just do the natural thing which is to die.

You people are failing badly in your attempts to pass your hatred unto
your descendants.

-Ramon

Tracey12

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Nov 7, 2012, 8:35:51 AM11/7/12
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Your racism is showing again.

David Hartung

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Nov 7, 2012, 9:22:03 AM11/7/12
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On 11/07/2012 07:05 AM, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 04:07:09 -0800 (PST), Tracey12
> <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> According to democrats, because Obama won by a slim margin, there can
>> be no opposition to Obama, thus the Republican and Independent parties
>> must become much more liberal and comply and conform to the demands of
>> the very liberal democrat party.
>
>
> According to Dick Cheney, when GWBush squeaked out victories over Gore
> and Kerry, Bush had a "mandate."
>
> Obama has a MANDATE.

Obama won 50.03% of the popular vote. Hardly a mandate, no matter what
Dick Cheney may or may not have asserted in 2004.

Ron

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Nov 7, 2012, 10:09:40 AM11/7/12
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On Nov 7, 6:07 am, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, start by eliminating the school tax on your home. You
know....where they take your school taxes even though you don't have
children and then give it to people to educate their kids!

Socialism !!

(Dingbat)

Man of Mind

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Nov 7, 2012, 10:13:55 AM11/7/12
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On 11/7/2012 8:22 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 11/07/2012 07:05 AM, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 04:07:09 -0800 (PST), Tracey12
>> <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> According to democrats, because Obama won by a slim margin, there can
>>> be no opposition to Obama, thus the Republican and Independent parties
>>> must become much more liberal and comply and conform to the demands of
>>> the very liberal democrat party.
>>
>>
>> According to Dick Cheney, when GWBush squeaked out victories over Gore
>> and Kerry, Bush had a "mandate."
>>
>> Obama has a MANDATE.
>
> Obama won 50.03% of the popular vote

50.3, 59,700,029 voters at this count/time..

--Still having trouble with numbers, I see..

Kenny McCormack

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Nov 7, 2012, 11:06:32 AM11/7/12
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In article <k7dtqt$1hs$1...@dont-email.me>,
Republicans and math have never been on a first name basis with each other.

--
But the Bush apologists hope that you won't remember all that. And they
also have a theory, which I've been hearing more and more - namely,
that President Obama, though not yet in office or even elected, caused the
2008 slump. You see, people were worried in advance about his future
policies, and that's what caused the economy to tank. Seriously.

(Paul Krugman - Addicted to Bush)

Lee L. Curtis

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Nov 7, 2012, 11:33:07 AM11/7/12
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What number do you consider a "mandatate"?



Lee L. Curtis

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Nov 7, 2012, 11:35:04 AM11/7/12
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The best part of the vote last night - the
huge number of young voters, and voting Demo.

The future does not bode well for the GOP.



duke

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Nov 7, 2012, 11:43:31 AM11/7/12
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 04:07:09 -0800 (PST), Tracey12 <tracey...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>According to democrats, because Obama won by a slim margin, there can
>be no opposition to Obama, thus the Republican and Independent parties
>must become much more liberal and comply and conform to the demands of
>the very liberal democrat party.
>Never in a 1000 years!!!

Where did that one come from? They play "hit below the belt". Now it's our
turn. 49% (57 million people) of the US said no to obama.

>We Conservatives must do all we can to stop the forward march of
>socialism and communism, as well as globalism.
>
>Never ever give in! Never comply! Never conform!
>
>Our values are the right values. Obama won by a slim margin. At least
>half of America agrees with us. Now we must teach those who do not
>know the difference between the radical left and Conservatism.
>
>NEVER GIVE IN NO MATTER WHAT THE LEFT SAYS!

The dukester, American - American
********************************************
You can't fix stupid.
********************************************

David Hartung

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Nov 7, 2012, 11:45:40 AM11/7/12
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Something a lot bigger than a .3% vote margin.

Message has been deleted

duke

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Nov 7, 2012, 11:51:36 AM11/7/12
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 08:05:15 -0500, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
<PopUl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 04:07:09 -0800 (PST), Tracey12
><tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>According to democrats, because Obama won by a slim margin, there can
>>be no opposition to Obama, thus the Republican and Independent parties
>>must become much more liberal and comply and conform to the demands of
>>the very liberal democrat party.
>
>
>According to Dick Cheney, when GWBush squeaked out victories over Gore
>and Kerry, Bush had a "mandate."
>
>Obama has a MANDATE.

With 49% of the country against him, hell no.

•R.Measures

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Nov 7, 2012, 12:17:56 PM11/7/12
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In article <4u3l98t7b0m17skgl...@4ax.com>, duke
• Let us critics of the RCC give thanks.

Lee L. Curtis

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Nov 7, 2012, 12:47:49 PM11/7/12
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So what number is a "mandate", in your opinion?






Willard Twitt Romney, LOSER

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Nov 7, 2012, 1:01:56 PM11/7/12
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On 11/07/2012 11:06 AM, Kenny McCormack wrote:
> In article<k7dtqt$1hs$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Man of Mind<baron.v...@gmail.invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 11/7/2012 8:22 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 11/07/2012 07:05 AM, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 04:07:09 -0800 (PST), Tracey12
>>>> <tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> According to democrats, because Obama won by a slim margin, there can
>>>>> be no opposition to Obama, thus the Republican and Independent parties
>>>>> must become much more liberal and comply and conform to the demands of
>>>>> the very liberal democrat party.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> According to Dick Cheney, when GWBush squeaked out victories over Gore
>>>> and Kerry, Bush had a "mandate."
>>>>
>>>> Obama has a MANDATE.
>>>
>>> Obama won 50.03% of the popular vote
>>
>> 50.3, 59,700,029 voters at this count/time..
>>
>> --Still having trouble with numbers, I see..
>
> Republicans and math have never been on a first name basis with each other.
>

Too much like science.

David Hartung

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Nov 7, 2012, 1:22:15 PM11/7/12
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A good question, probably 55-60% of the popular vote, or 35-40 out of 50
states.

Alan Ferris

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Nov 7, 2012, 2:13:08 PM11/7/12
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And Bush won with less than 50%....does not mean much really.
--
Ferrit

()'.'.'()
( (T) )
( ) . ( )
(")_(")

Ramon F. Herrera

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Nov 7, 2012, 2:21:49 PM11/7/12
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I L-O-V-E all races.

I am only intolerant against intolerance (*) such as the one spread by
you and other "Christians" (whose actions are not liked by Jesus) on a
daily basis.

-Ramon

(*) This phenomenon has been studied.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

David Hartung

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Nov 7, 2012, 2:37:09 PM11/7/12
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Have you ever seen me assert that Bush had a mandate?

Gary DW

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Nov 7, 2012, 2:49:33 PM11/7/12
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In article
<UYCdnRhzlsMR8wfN...@giganews.com>, David
Hartung says...


> >> According to democrats, because Obama won by a slim margin, there can
> >> be no opposition to Obama, thus the Republican and Independent parties
> >> must become much more liberal and comply and conform to the demands of
> >> the very liberal democrat party.
> >
> >
> > According to Dick Cheney, when GWBush squeaked out victories over Gore
> > and Kerry, Bush had a "mandate."
> >
> > Obama has a MANDATE.
>
> Obama won 50.03% of the popular vote. Hardly a mandate, no matter what
> Dick Cheney may or may not have asserted in 2004.
>
>
>


Is that what you said back then?

Don't lie!

Jesus is watching...


--
"[The] debt explosion has resulted not from big spending
by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party's
embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious
doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from
tax cuts."
-Reagan budget chief David Stockman

Alan Ferris

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Nov 7, 2012, 2:53:15 PM11/7/12
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No, but he did.

David Hartung

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Nov 7, 2012, 2:58:34 PM11/7/12
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So?

David Hartung

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Nov 7, 2012, 3:01:26 PM11/7/12
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On 11/07/2012 01:49 PM, Gary DW wrote:
> In article
> <UYCdnRhzlsMR8wfN...@giganews.com>, David
> Hartung says...
>
>
>>>> According to democrats, because Obama won by a slim margin, there can
>>>> be no opposition to Obama, thus the Republican and Independent parties
>>>> must become much more liberal and comply and conform to the demands of
>>>> the very liberal democrat party.
>>>
>>>
>>> According to Dick Cheney, when GWBush squeaked out victories over Gore
>>> and Kerry, Bush had a "mandate."
>>>
>>> Obama has a MANDATE.
>>
>> Obama won 50.03% of the popular vote. Hardly a mandate, no matter what
>> Dick Cheney may or may not have asserted in 2004.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Is that what you said back then?

As it has been 12 years since that election, I do not remember
specifically what I said, but for me to have claimed a mandate would
have been out of character for me. If I did claim a mandate for Bush, I
was wrong.

Alan Ferris

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Nov 8, 2012, 2:42:51 AM11/8/12
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Just pointing out the irrelevance of it all.

duke

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Nov 8, 2012, 6:58:17 AM11/8/12
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When less than 49.97% of the country is against the mandate.

duke

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Nov 8, 2012, 7:00:31 AM11/8/12
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:49:59 -0700, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 04:07:09 -0800 (PST), Tracey12
><tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>According to democrats, because Obama won by a slim margin, there can
>>be no opposition to Obama, thus the Republican and Independent parties
>>must become much more liberal and comply and conform to the demands of
>>the very liberal democrat party.
>
>Looks like even a moron like you ought to figure out that
>conservatism/loonytarianism got shit on pretty good.

>Maybe you ought to try a winner for a change?

No, those are the people that are the democrat freeloaders.

Obama Phone

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Nov 8, 2012, 7:52:38 AM11/8/12
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Obammy has no mandate. 50% + or - is hardly a mandate.

He has a narrow victory. And now he has a president's 2nd term curse.

read today's NY Times. Obammy is in for a rough ride.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/us/politics/triumphant-obama-faces-new-foe-in-second-term-curse.html

Christopher Helms

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Nov 8, 2012, 9:21:57 AM11/8/12
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On Nov 7, 6:07 am, Tracey12 <tracey12em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> According to democrats, because Obama won by a slim margin, there can
> be no opposition to Obama, thus the Republican and Independent parties
> must become much more liberal and comply and conform to the demands of
> the very liberal democrat party.
>
> Never in a 1000 years!!!
>
> We Conservatives must do all we can to stop the forward march of
> socialism and communism, as well as globalism.
>
> Never ever give in!  Never comply!  Never conform!
>
> Our values are the right values. Obama won by a slim margin.  At least
> half of America agrees with us.  Now we must teach those who do not
> know the difference between the radical left and Conservatism.
>
> NEVER GIVE IN NO MATTER WHAT THE LEFT SAYS!


Conservatives don't have to become liberals, but they can't sit there
listening to the right wing media and stewing in their own paranoid
neuroses either, unless they like losing.

vit...@gmail.com

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Nov 8, 2012, 9:38:07 AM11/8/12
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On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 5:30:02 AM UTC-8, Tracey12 wrote:
> On Nov 7, 7:05 am, Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
>
> <PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > According to Dick Cheney, when GWBush squeaked out victories over Gore
>
> > and Kerry, Bush had a "mandate."
>
> >
>
> > Obama has a MANDATE.
>
>
>
> Obama has a headache,
>
>
>
> Even before Obamacare kicks in fully, Obama is running up a 1.2
>
> Trillion dollar increase in the debt each year. In four more, that
>
> will add 5 Trillion more to the 6 Trillion he's already racked up.
>
> And, we are not counting the costs of Obamacare or any other insanity
>
> he might pass.
>
>
>
> Therefore, in 4 years, our debt will be the current 16 Trillion plus
>
> an additional 5 Trillion at the very minimum.
>
>
>
> With 21 Trillion in debt, our GDP won't touch it since its only 14 to
>
> 15 Trillion per year. We will be fully bankrupt and since we are
>
> already using the Federal Reserve to print money for a large portion
>
> of the annual deficit, we may not find anyone who will loan us a
>
> dime. At that point, the USD crashes in value, and the Obama
>
> Depression will look like a nothing compared to the horrible economic
>
> disaster that we will face then.
>
>
>
> I beg someone to tell me how we avoid this event. Many are saying it
>
> is going to happen.

I love the way you assholes run up the debt and shift the blame to others. Your day is over pig.

vit...@gmail.com

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Nov 8, 2012, 9:40:10 AM11/8/12
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So you pathetic assholes can not make things better, but you sure can make them worse. Try holding your breath.

M.I.Wakefield

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Nov 8, 2012, 9:43:05 AM11/8/12
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"Christopher Helms" wrote in message
news:c26770a1-4a53-46bc...@j10g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

> Conservatives don't have to become liberals, but they can't sit there
> listening to the right wing media and stewing in their own paranoid
> neuroses either, unless they like losing.

And they have to admit that the words "trans-vaginal ultrasound" are
antithetical to the concept of small, limited, government that they claim to
espouse.

mr_antone

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Nov 8, 2012, 9:52:55 AM11/8/12
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 04:07:09 -0800 (PST), Tracey12
<tracey...@gmail.com> wrote:

>According to democrats, because Obama won by a slim margin, there can
>be no opposition to Obama, thus the Republican and Independent parties
>must become much more liberal and comply and conform to the demands of
>the very liberal democrat party.

Malarkey.

>
>Never in a 1000 years!!!
>
>We Conservatives must do all we can to stop the forward march of
>socialism and communism, as well as globalism.
>
>Never ever give in! Never comply! Never conform!
>
>Our values are the right values. Obama won by a slim margin. At least
>half of America agrees with us. Now we must teach those who do not
>know the difference between the radical left and Conservatism.
>
>NEVER GIVE IN NO MATTER WHAT THE LEFT SAYS!

What Conservatives do is when a Republican is elected President is
hide under their beds.

Reagan and both Bushes - Responsible for the greatest increases in the
Federal government, regulations, debt and unfunded mandates.

Every single time.


mr_antone

--

Bert

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Nov 8, 2012, 10:05:26 AM11/8/12
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In news:i8hn98pujouc76iik...@4ax.com mr_antone
<ju...@not.here> wrote:

> Reagan and both Bushes - Responsible for the greatest increases in the
> Federal government, regulations, debt and unfunded mandates.

Some people still think there are real differences between modern
Democrats and Republicans.

[Newsgroups trimmed]

--
be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN

•R.Measures

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Nov 8, 2012, 10:33:38 AM11/8/12
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In article <k7ggdr$nlu$1...@dont-email.me>, "M.I.Wakefield"
АА not much chance of that MI.

•R.Measures

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Nov 8, 2012, 10:36:17 AM11/8/12
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In article <i8hn98pujouc76iik...@4ax.com>, mr_antone
• But it doesn't matter to Neo-cons Mr. A. since they are virtually
immune to unfavorable reality.

mr_antone

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Nov 8, 2012, 11:14:25 AM11/8/12
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On 08 Nov 2012 15:05:26 GMT, Bert <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:

>In news:i8hn98pujouc76iik...@4ax.com mr_antone
><ju...@not.here> wrote:
>
>> Reagan and both Bushes - Responsible for the greatest increases in the
>> Federal government, regulations, debt and unfunded mandates.
>
>Some people still think there are real differences between modern
>Democrats and Republicans.

Subject is about Conservatives.

mr_antone

--

Gary DW

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Nov 8, 2012, 2:19:46 PM11/8/12
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In article
<Ub2dnU8uC4KLIwfN...@giganews.com>, David
Hartung says...
Well, considering you have absolutely no self-
awareness... zero. Zilch NONE... I will take this with a
grain of salt.

There nothing about your character that doesn't suggesat
you thought Bush had a mandate.



If I did claim a mandate for Bush, I
> was wrong.


How convenient.

rin tin timkovych

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Nov 10, 2012, 12:44:04 PM11/10/12
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On 11/7/2012 8:13 AM, Man of Mind wrote:
>
> --Still having trouble with numbers, I see..
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To add to some people's idea that the Greys look like
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I 'll be happy to sent you a copy of this article if
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I got ahold of a copy of Strieber's Majestic and find
most of it to be interesting. I still get the impression
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the government officialdom is still quite embarrassed.
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