9/11 strikes : Conclusions of Muhammad Columbo/Sky Confusor/Agent86
MuhammadColumbo
Agent86. To remove any confusion and make things as short as possible, I
decided to write that conclusion.
By my part, I refuse to consider all phone calls or eye witnesses that can
not be proved. I consider them not reliable as long as they are not proved
with real facts. Because everypeople can lie, and phone calls can be made by
computers with the same sound of any people, and cellular phone calls from
planes flying at more than 10000ft is almost impossible.
Sky Confusor and Agent86 refuses to consider the timeline of take off,
hijack, deviation and crash times of the planes. They refuses to consider
that the planes waited each other before deviate from their route. That
information is proved from all sources, including the commission report.
That timeline shows it is IMPOSSIBLE to make the hijacks by 4 different
teams. It also shows that the hijacks were made by only ONE team that
hijacked the planes one after other. That timeline is shown in my web site
http://users.swing.be/muhammadcolumbo/
Finally Sky Confusor and Agent86 refuses to explain HOW and WHY 4
independent teams hijacked 4 different planes in a sequential order as it
happened? When one was ending its flight, the following one deviated from
its route.
That shows the strikes were made by an internal team to USA.
age...@justicespammail.com
<muhammad...@swing.be> wrote:
>Here is the conclusion of very longtime discussion between me, Sky Confusor,
>Agent86. To remove any confusion and make things as short as possible, I
>decided to write that conclusion.
>
>By my part, I refuse to consider all phone calls or eye witnesses that can
>not be proved.
Because they contradict the muslim apologist's theory. And prove that
muslims committed the deed.
>Sky Confusor and Agent86 refuses to consider the timeline of take off,
>hijack, deviation and crash times of the planes.
Wrong. But your fantasy regarding the timeline is meaningless.
>They refuses to consider
>that the planes waited each other before deviate from their route.
Because there is no evidence that they "waited" for such a thing.
>That
>information is proved from all sources, including the commission report.
There is absolutely no evidence that the hijackers intentionally
waited for a previous plane to be near crashing.
>That timeline shows it is IMPOSSIBLE to make the hijacks by 4 different
>teams.
It shows no such thing, except in muhammed's wild fantasy.
>It also shows that the hijacks were made by only ONE team that
>hijacked the planes one after other.
Again, there is no evidence that point to such a conclusion.
>Finally Sky Confusor and Agent86 refuses to explain HOW and WHY 4
>independent teams hijacked 4 different planes in a sequential order as it
>happened? When one was ending its flight, the following one deviated from
>its route.
And it's been explained several times.
>That shows the strikes were made by an internal team to USA.
Only in muhammed fantasy world.
Vandar
There's a reason people consider you a kook and your theories laughable,
Muhammad, and this post is an example of why.
Fredric L. Rice
>Here is the conclusion of very longtime discussion between me, Sky Confusor, Agent86.
Is LSD your problem? Just how much LSD have you done?
---
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Sky King
> There's a reason people consider you a kook and your theories laughable,
> Muhammad, and this post is an example of why.
No, I'm afraid you're confused. It's YOU they're laughing at. No one
agrees with you except me and a few of our equally confused fellow
dog-fucking morons.
Sky King
So, who's the asshole posting from p-201.newsdawg.com that's posing as
me?
Vandar
Awww look... Sky King has a pet who is as dumb as a box of rocks.
Sky King
Be nice to me - I would have been your dad if the poodle hadn't made it
over the fence first.
Vandar
Sky King, your pet keeps trying to hump my leg.
MuhammadColumbo
"Vandar" <vand...@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
iwc9f.11374$cg....@news02.roc.ny...
The reason is easy : I am muslim. And you can not imagine a muslim telling
truth, and proving that your government did 9/11 strikes. But I now what I
say is true, simply because I verified all necessary information source.
But for you, you have no one proof, and you are only able to insult. That
shows how kook you are.
That's all. I will not linger in that thread.
MuhammadColumbo
<age...@justicespammail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1ggam11s5eut85mmo...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:29:53 +0100, "MuhammadColumbo"
> <muhammad...@swing.be> wrote:
>
>>Here is the conclusion of very longtime discussion between me, Sky
>>Confusor,
>>Agent86. To remove any confusion and make things as short as possible, I
>>decided to write that conclusion.
>>
>>By my part, I refuse to consider all phone calls or eye witnesses that can
>>not be proved.
>
> Because they contradict the muslim apologist's theory. And prove that
> muslims committed the deed.
I gave the reason why I refuse to consider them.
>>Sky Confusor and Agent86 refuses to consider the timeline of take off,
>>hijack, deviation and crash times of the planes.
>
> Wrong. But your fantasy regarding the timeline is meaningless.
>
>>They refuses to consider
>>that the planes waited each other before deviate from their route.
>
> Because there is no evidence that they "waited" for such a thing.
>
>>That
>>information is proved from all sources, including the commission report.
>
> There is absolutely no evidence that the hijackers intentionally
> waited for a previous plane to be near crashing.
>
>>That timeline shows it is IMPOSSIBLE to make the hijacks by 4 different
>>teams.
>
> It shows no such thing, except in muhammed's wild fantasy.
>
>>It also shows that the hijacks were made by only ONE team that
>>hijacked the planes one after other.
>
> Again, there is no evidence that point to such a conclusion.
>
>>Finally Sky Confusor and Agent86 refuses to explain HOW and WHY 4
>>independent teams hijacked 4 different planes in a sequential order as it
>>happened? When one was ending its flight, the following one deviated from
>>its route.
>
> And it's been explained several times.
>
>>That shows the strikes were made by an internal team to USA.
>
> Only in muhammed fantasy world.
All what you say here proves that the conclusions I gave are right. You
refuse to consider the timeline.
Every people will have his own idea on the reasons why you refuse to
consider the timeline.
Finally, I gave the conclusions, I will not linger in that thread.
Sky King
Vandar
Your religious beliefs have nothing to do with it.
Sky King
Of course he does - it smells like your mom.
Orval Fairbairn
"MuhammadColumbo" <muhammad...@swing.be> wrote:
(snipped)
> >
> > There's a reason people consider you a kook and your theories laughable,
> > Muhammad, and this post is an example of why.
>
> The reason is easy : I am muslim. And you can not imagine a muslim telling
> truth, and proving that your government did 9/11 strikes. But I now what I
> say is true, simply because I verified all necessary information source.
>
> But for you, you have no one proof, and you are only able to insult. That
> shows how kook you are.
>
> That's all. I will not linger in that thread.
Mohammad certainly does his fellow Muslims no credit with his "proofs"!
He shows that Islamic education comes up short when it comes to
standards of proof and evidence.
It is no wonder that Islamic societies are backward and have contributed
little to the advancement of civilization for the last 500 years.
Sky King
The appropriate complaint has been filed with newsguy/newsdawg
informing them of your impersonation of me.
george
MuhammadColumbo wrote:
half baked claims removed for the sake of brevity and look, nothing
left..
mad muslims hijacked airliners and crashed them into structures except
in one case where heroic passengers almost succeeded in taking the
aircraft back.
Nearly 3000 people were murdered by these senseless thugs from a
thought process that the west dumped way back in antiquity..
MuhammadColumbo
"Sky King" <sky...@scientist.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1130760372.9...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>Finally Sky Confusor and Agent86 refuses to explain HOW and WHY 4
> >>independent teams hijacked 4 different planes in a sequential order as
> >>it
> >>happened? When one was ending its flight, the following one deviated
> >>from
> >>its route.
> >
> > And it's been explained several times.
> >
> >>That shows the strikes were made by an internal team to USA.
> >
> > Only in muhammed fantasy world.
>
> All what you say here proves that the conclusions I gave are right. You
> refuse to consider the timeline.
>
> Every people will have his own idea on the reasons why you refuse to
> consider the timeline.
>
> Finally, I gave the conclusions, I will not linger in that thread.
This kind of insulting articles shows how you are small minded people. When
you are unable to argue, you just attack people by insulting them.
Be sure, this kind of comments will never reach me. I know what I am.
So, that's all.
Sky King
You've insulted our intelligence for far too long, Muhammad Columbo.
You've only received what you asked for and deserve 100%.
>
> Be sure, this kind of comments will never reach me. I know what I am.
You are unable to support your fairy tale, Muhammad, despite our pleas
that you support it with facts and evidence.
We gave you every chance for months. You refused.
Finally, I had to do what was required to support the truth:
Your fairy-tale scenario, stupid, irrational, childish, and 100%
against the facts, is finished and in the trash bin of history,
Muhammad Columbo.
The record of your idiocy is preserved here on Usenet and I will do my
part to support rational thinking and civilized behavior by exposing
you for the idiot Muslim you are who is taking Islam further back into
the Middle Ages instead of facing the modern world honestly.
You are a idiot and destroyer of Islam, Muhammad Columbo, just the
person Osama Bin Laden depends on to advance the cause of
Islamofascism. That is the choice you have made and all the world who
reads your crap sees it.
You can go away now, Muhammad Columbo. No one here believes the
irrational nonsense you write. It's nothing but spam.
age...@justicespammail.com
<muhammad...@swing.be> wrote:
>
><age...@justicespammail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
>1ggam11s5eut85mmo...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:29:53 +0100, "MuhammadColumbo"
>> <muhammad...@swing.be> wrote:
>>
>>>Here is the conclusion of very longtime discussion between me, Sky
>>>Confusor,
>>>Agent86. To remove any confusion and make things as short as possible, I
>>>decided to write that conclusion.
>>>
>>>By my part, I refuse to consider all phone calls or eye witnesses that can
>>>not be proved.
>>
>> Because they contradict the muslim apologist's theory. And prove that
>> muslims committed the deed.
>
>I gave the reason why I refuse to consider them.
And your "reason" is not valid.
>>>Sky Confusor and Agent86 refuses to consider the timeline of take off,
>>>hijack, deviation and crash times of the planes.
>>
>> Wrong. But your fantasy regarding the timeline is meaningless.
>>
>>>They refuses to consider
>>>that the planes waited each other before deviate from their route.
>>
>> Because there is no evidence that they "waited" for such a thing.
>>
>>>That
>>>information is proved from all sources, including the commission report.
>>
>> There is absolutely no evidence that the hijackers intentionally
>> waited for a previous plane to be near crashing.
>>
>>>That timeline shows it is IMPOSSIBLE to make the hijacks by 4 different
>>>teams.
>>
>> It shows no such thing, except in muhammed's wild fantasy.
>>
>>>It also shows that the hijacks were made by only ONE team that
>>>hijacked the planes one after other.
>>
>> Again, there is no evidence that point to such a conclusion.
>>
>>>Finally Sky Confusor and Agent86 refuses to explain HOW and WHY 4
>>>independent teams hijacked 4 different planes in a sequential order as it
>>>happened? When one was ending its flight, the following one deviated from
>>>its route.
>>
>> And it's been explained several times.
>>
>>>That shows the strikes were made by an internal team to USA.
>>
>> Only in muhammed's fantasy world.
>
>All what you say here proves that the conclusions I gave are right. You
>refuse to consider the timeline.
No, muhammed the idiot, muslim apologist, the timeline has been
considered. It's just that one can't reach your "conclusion" solely
based on that information. You've been given other possible
explanations and you've rejected them all in favor of your unsupported
fantasy.
>Every people will have his own idea on the reasons why you refuse to
>consider the timeline.
>
>Finally, I gave the conclusions, I will not linger in that thread.
Wanna bet?
age...@justicespammail.com
<muhammad...@swing.be> wrote:
>
>"Sky King" <sky...@scientist.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
>1130760372.9...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>> >>Finally Sky Confusor and Agent86 refuses to explain HOW and WHY 4
>> >>independent teams hijacked 4 different planes in a sequential order as
>> >>it
>> >>happened? When one was ending its flight, the following one deviated
>> >>from
>> >>its route.
>> >
>> > And it's been explained several times.
>> >
>> >>That shows the strikes were made by an internal team to USA.
>> >
>> > Only in muhammed fantasy world.
>>
>> All what you say here proves that the conclusions I gave are right. You
>> refuse to consider the timeline.
>>
>> Every people will have his own idea on the reasons why you refuse to
>> consider the timeline.
>>
>> Finally, I gave the conclusions, I will not linger in that thread.
>This kind of insulting articles shows how you are small minded people. When
>you are unable to argue, you just attack people by insulting them.
>
>Be sure, this kind of comments will never reach me. I know what I am.
>
>So, that's all.
See, I told you you wouldn't stay away.
age...@justicespammail.com
<muhammad...@swing.be> wrote:
>That's all. I will not linger in that thread.
So you continue to claim. But then you keep posting, don't you?
Sarah
Then by your statement, you're confirming it was the US government
who planned and attacked the US for financial profit, by stating 3rd
world people aren't educated or intelligent enough to pull off such a
catastrophe.
BTW, it wasn't terrorists who were in charge of airport security at
all three airports, but in fact was Wackenhut Security, owned and run
by ex-CIA/FBI agents who were. The same Wackenhut Security who
Bush teamed up with FEMA, who receives 98% of all government
security contracts, and just happened to recently replace the security
at both West Point and Annapolis.
Now supposedly it was the BS appointed 9/11 commission appointed
by Bush after the evidence was removed of course, who was supposed
to find out how 9/11 could have happened in the first place.
Now one would think they would be certainly interested in just how it
was that 19 supposed hijackers not only managed to get past the
passenger security check without tickets, by even managed to get
past the boarding gates without boarding passes.
Yet strangely enough, Wackenhut Security was never questioned by
the 9/11 commission. Hummmmmmm
A few more facts Bush just can't seem to explain away :
Amazing how the government also claimed with their official story that
flight # 93 went down in Pennsylvania, which had the tail registration
#N591UA and nose registration # 5491.
Maybe Bush and his lying government can explain how Capt
Friedman with Untied Airlines, on April 10, 2003 just happened
to be flying a 757, flight # 1111, from ORD leaving gate C20, and
arrived in LAS at gate D39 with the same tail registration # N591UA
and nose registration # 5491, a year and a half after it supposedly
crashed ?
Since Capt Friedman did a lot of flying, he decided he would
keep a detailed log of every flight he flew for the year 2003.
Details included what meals were served, departure, arrival,
gates, registrations, type of the aircraft, crew member etc.
Bush and the government wasn't banking on someone recognizing
those registration numbers from his detailed log as being the same as
the aircraft of flight # 93.
1. Then some have claimed he wrote down the wrong number. Unlikely
given the fact both numbers he wrote down were assigned to flight #93,
and if he wrote the tail number wrong, then it wouldn't have matched
the nose registration number.
2. And what would the chances be of writing both numbers wrong, yet
both wrong numbers just happen match the aircraft the government
claimed crashed on 9/11 ? A trillion to one ?
More interesting facts about the 4 flights on 9-11
On Sept 12, Oprah had a guest claiming he had checked in two of the
hijackers on the first part of their two leg flight, and that he had a
weird feeling about the two men, so he didn't give them their boarding
passes for the second leg of their flights, so they would have to re
check in at Logan airport in Boston for their flight to Los Angeles.
He went on an on about how one of the guys eyes were really evil
looking etc. and described how they were acting, and so on.
There's just a few things wrong with this guys story, but first I
seriously doubt he even works for any airline company, but
instead for the government.
1. He claimed he checked the two guys in at the ticket counter, which
means tickets were issued to the two guys, which included their
connecting flight , flight #11 Boston to Los Angeles.
2. Strange how American Airlines has no record of tickets purchased
by either of the two so called hijackers, no carbon copies of their
tickets which are removed when you check in and get your
boarding pass, nor are either listed on the official passenger list
for flight # 11.
Other interesting information regarding the 4 so called hijacked
airliners on 9-11
Flight # 11, 92 crew/passengers, including two pilots and 9 stewards
on the flight.
Only 20 ( 22%) are listed in the social security death database.
Only 3 family members of the 92 on board collected $1.8 million
each from the government's Compensation Fund for the loss of
their loved one.
All 3 were passengers, no crew members.
Judy Larocque
Laurie Neira
Candace Lee Williams
Flight # 77, 64 people, which includes 6 crew, 4 were attendants
who are listed on the official passenger list as being killed,
only 14 are listed in the social security death database (22%), and
only 5 of those 14 show up on the Compensation Fund list as receiving
the $1.8 million.
All were passengers, no crew :
William Caswell
Eddie Dillard
Ian Gray
John Sammartino
Leonard Taylor
Barbara Olson, who was supposedly onboard and married to U.S.
Solicitor General Ted Olson, and supposedly called her husband twice
before going down isn't listed in the social security death database,
and she isn't one of the 5 listed as receiving the $1.8 million from
the Compensation Fund.
Ever hear of any politician turning down $1.8 million, or any money
for that matter ? There's probably not one person who is going to
pass up receiving $1.8 million in compensation, and a 100%
guarantee no politician is going to, including Ted Olsen
Two of the flight attendants on the flight were husband and wife, but
neither is listed in the social security death database, and neither
one is listed on the Compensation Fund, that would be $3.6 million for
their surviving children, if they had any, or next of kin if they
didn't.
Flight # 175, 65 people including two pilots and seven attendants,
with only 18 listed in the social security death database ( 28%), and
only 3 are listed on the Compensation Fund list as receiving $1.8
million.
Michael C. Tarrou - flight attendant, not in the S/S database,
Gloria Debarrera - passenger
Timothy Ward - passenger
ELLEN MARIANI's husband Louis was killed on this flight. She had
requested the passenger list several times and kept getting the run
around. After finally getting the list she tried to contact other
family members who lost loved ones on the flight as well.
Well apparently she is the only living family member of every
passenger and crew member on that flight, because she has
been unable to find even one family member to anyone else
supposedly on the flight. Odd.
Flight # 93 had 45 on the flight, including 5 flight attendants, 2
pilots, 38 passengers.
6 passengers are listed in the social security death database (13% ),
not one crew member.
Of the 45 total onboard, not one is on the Compensation Fund list.
For the total 38 passengers there were 5 flight attendants, which
comes out to 1 attendant for every 7 passengers. 38 passengers
on a cross country flight, on an airliner that holds 230+ passengers.
Amazing.
Also, Mark Bingham, who's mother claimed he called her and left a
message before they crashed, saying " Mom, this is your son Mark
Bingham ", now why on earth would someone say to their mother, this is
your son and give his full name ? I remember his mom stating this to a
reporter on the news, and thought even then how strange it was for
someone to give their full name when it was his own mother.
Now as greedy as most people are, it's amazing how only 11 families
out of the 266 people on all 4 flights collected $1.8 million each,
from the governments Compensation Fund.
If that isn't a red flag, I don't know what is.
And of those 11, only one was a crew member, a flight attendant,
the other 10 were passengers.
Flight # 77 had a total of 58 passengers, yet had 4 attendants,
Flight # 93 had a total of 38 passengers yet had 5 attendants
Flight # 11 had a total of 81 passengers yet had 9 attendants
Flight # 11 had a total of 56 passengers yet had 7 attendants
That's 25 attendants for 4 flights, serving the amount of
passengers you would have on a normal full flight.
I've done a hell of a lot of flying cross country and international,
99% being early morning flights, or red eye, and most were nearly
full if not full flights, and the most flight attendants on a flight
was 8.
The government's lies and cover up's don't hold water. If it had
been terrorists like the government claims, then why has the
government changed their story when they've been caught
lying ? If it had been terrorist, the facts wouldn't keep changing.
But then again. logic and common sense are becoming obsolete
in this country with people believing everything the government
tells them as the gospel truth.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see who attacked the US,
because the US government couldn't tell the truth if their lives
depended on it. The sad part is they don't even need to lie, because
the American people certainly aren't going to do anything about their
lies, corruption, murders, world terrorism, etc.
Adolph Hitler stated :
"What good fortune for those in power, that people do not think "
Sadly, truer words have never been spoken.
Sarah
It wasn't terrorists who were in charge of airport security at all
three airports, but in fact was Wackenhut Security, owned and run
by ex-CIA/FBI agents who were. The same Wackenhut Security who
Bush teamed up with FEMA, who receives 98% of all government
security contracts, and just happened to recently replace the security
at both West Point and Annapolis.
Now supposedly it was the BS appointed 9/11 commission by Bush,
Orval Fairbairn
Sarah <liv...@sarah-hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:53:47 GMT, Orval Fairbairn
> <orfai...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <4365eb74$0$8363$ba62...@news.skynet.be>,
> > "MuhammadColumbo" <muhammad...@swing.be> wrote:
> >
> >(snipped)
> >> >
> >> > There's a reason people consider you a kook and your theories laughable,
> >> > Muhammad, and this post is an example of why.
> >>
> >> The reason is easy : I am muslim. And you can not imagine a muslim telling
> >> truth, and proving that your government did 9/11 strikes. But I now what I
> >> say is true, simply because I verified all necessary information source.
> >>
> >> But for you, you have no one proof, and you are only able to insult. That
> >> shows how kook you are.
> >>
> >> That's all. I will not linger in that thread.
> >
> >Mohammad certainly does his fellow Muslims no credit with his "proofs"!
> >He shows that Islamic education comes up short when it comes to
> >standards of proof and evidence.
> >
> >It is no wonder that Islamic societies are backward and have contributed
> >little to the advancement of civilization for the last 500 years.
>
> Then by your statement, you're confirming it was the US government
> who planned and attacked the US for financial profit, by stating 3rd
> world people aren't educated or intelligent enough to pull off such a
> catastrophe.
(kookbabble snipped)
No, what I said was that "It is no wonder that Islamic societies are
backward and have contributed little to the advancement of civilization
for the last 500 years."
I did not say that Muslims were too stupid to put together organized
heinous acts. The problem is that their religion hampers scientific and
intellectual development and that some of them blame non-Muslims for
their self-inflicted problems.
Oom Papa Maomao
Ooooh, oooh!! Me too! I want to issue some empty threats!!
I use newsguy, too, and I need some help, please.
What's the form for the "appropriate complaint" for someone
impersonating someone impersonating a fictional character?
How do you know he was impersonating you and not impersonating the
fictional character you're impersonating?
george
Sarah wrote:
> On 31 Oct 2005 12:19:11 -0800, "george" <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >MuhammadColumbo wrote:
> >half baked claims removed for the sake of brevity and look, nothing
> >left..
> >mad muslims hijacked airliners and crashed them into structures except
> >in one case where heroic passengers almost succeeded in taking the
> >aircraft back.
> >Nearly 3000 people were murdered by these senseless thugs from a
> >thought process that the west dumped way back in antiquity..
>
> It wasn't terrorists who were in charge of airport security at all
> three airports, but in fact was Wackenhut Security, owned and run
> by ex-CIA/FBI agents who were. The same Wackenhut Security who
> Bush teamed up with FEMA, who receives 98% of all government
> security contracts, and just happened to recently replace the security
> at both West Point and Annapolis.
and ???
No-one before 9/11 expected muslim maniacs to hijack airliners filled
with cvilians and crash them into structures...
This evil was done by mad muslims, it was not a product of any security
company!
That claim is the sort of thing that comes from muslim apologists who
condone the murder of innocents and civilians in their attempts to
force their primitive idiom upon a free world!
age...@justicespammail.com
wrote:
>BTW, it wasn't terrorists who were in charge of airport security at
>all three airports, but in fact was Wackenhut Security, owned and run
>by ex-CIA/FBI agents who were. The same Wackenhut Security who
>Bush teamed up with FEMA, who receives 98% of all government
>security contracts, and just happened to recently replace the security
>at both West Point and Annapolis.
>
>Now supposedly it was the BS appointed 9/11 commission appointed
>by Bush after the evidence was removed of course, who was supposed
>to find out how 9/11 could have happened in the first place.
>
>Now one would think they would be certainly interested in just how it
>was that 19 supposed hijackers not only managed to get past the
>passenger security check without tickets, by even managed to get
>past the boarding gates without boarding passes.
They had tickets and boarding passes.
>Amazing how the government also claimed with their official story that
>flight # 93 went down in Pennsylvania, which had the tail registration
>#N591UA and nose registration # 5491.
Cite? It's impossible for the the two numbers not to match. Not to
mention that the nose number couldn't have been 5491.
>Maybe Bush and his lying government can explain how Capt
>Friedman with Untied Airlines, on April 10, 2003 just happened
>to be flying a 757, flight # 1111, from ORD leaving gate C20, and
>arrived in LAS at gate D39 with the same tail registration # N591UA
>and nose registration # 5491, a year and a half after it supposedly
>crashed ?
It's already been shown that Friedman mad a mistake. The Bureau of
Transportation Statistics (www.bts.gov) lists Flight 1111 on April 10,
2003. Except the aircraft that was used was N594UA, not N591UA.
Capt. Friedman misread a 1 for a 4.
age...@justicespammail.com
wrote:
My apologies. The previous message was sent before I finished it.
Here's the correct one.
>BTW, it wasn't terrorists who were in charge of airport security at
>all three airports, but in fact was Wackenhut Security, owned and run
>by ex-CIA/FBI agents who were. The same Wackenhut Security who
>Bush teamed up with FEMA, who receives 98% of all government
>security contracts, and just happened to recently replace the security
>at both West Point and Annapolis.
Cite?
>Now one would think they would be certainly interested in just how it
>was that 19 supposed hijackers not only managed to get past the
>passenger security check without tickets, by even managed to get
>past the boarding gates without boarding passes.
They had tickets and boarding passes.
>Amazing how the government also claimed with their official story that
>flight # 93 went down in Pennsylvania, which had the tail registration
>#N591UA and nose registration # 5491.
Which is the plane that went down.
>Maybe Bush and his lying government can explain how Capt
>Friedman with Untied Airlines, on April 10, 2003 just happened
>to be flying a 757, flight # 1111, from ORD leaving gate C20, and
>arrived in LAS at gate D39 with the same tail registration # N591UA
>and nose registration # 5491, a year and a half after it supposedly
>crashed ?
It's already been shown that Friedman mad a mistake. The Bureau of
Transportation Statistics (www.bts.gov) lists Flight 1111 on April 10,
2003. Except the aircraft that was used was N594UA, not N591UA.
Capt. Friedman misread a 1 for a 4.
>More interesting facts about the 4 flights on 9-11
>
>On Sept 12, Oprah had a guest claiming he had checked in two of the
>hijackers on the first part of their two leg flight, and that he had a
>weird feeling about the two men, so he didn't give them their boarding
>passes for the second leg of their flights, so they would have to re
>check in at Logan airport in Boston for their flight to Los Angeles.
>He went on an on about how one of the guys eyes were really evil
>looking etc. and described how they were acting, and so on.
>
>There's just a few things wrong with this guys story, but first I
>seriously doubt he even works for any airline company, but
>instead for the government.
>
>1. He claimed he checked the two guys in at the ticket counter, which
>means tickets were issued to the two guys, which included their
>connecting flight , flight #11 Boston to Los Angeles.
And tickets were issued.
>2. Strange how American Airlines has no record of tickets purchased
>by either of the two so called hijackers, no carbon copies of their
>tickets which are removed when you check in and get your
>boarding pass,
Haven't flown lately, have you? Never used an eticket?
>nor are either listed on the official passenger list
>for flight # 11.
Except that they are on the passenger list.
>Other interesting information regarding the 4 so called hijacked
>airliners on 9-11
>
>Flight # 11, 92 crew/passengers, including two pilots and 9 stewards
>on the flight.
>
>Only 20 ( 22%) are listed in the social security death database.
And you don't have a clue as to what the social security death index
is. This too has been explained in depth before.
>Only 3 family members of the 92 on board collected $1.8 million
>each from the government's Compensation Fund for the loss of
>their loved one.
This also has been explained. If one collected from the fund, you
signed away your right to all future litigation. Not to mention that
you're lying about the amount.
The amount paid was dependent on several factors
Here's an example calculation:
http://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/tows_2002/tows_past_20020131_b.jhtml
"The size of award depends on the victim's family size, age and
salary. For example, take a 30-year-old victim who had a wife and 2
young children and made $50,000 in annual income.
His family would receive:
Pain and mental anguish......... $250,000
3 dependents($50,000 each).... $150,000
Loss of future earnings............ $1,300,000
Total compensation before deductions $1,700,000
Deductions:
Life insurance......................... $100,000
Pension plan
(employee contrib.)................. $60,000
Social Security....................... $160,000
Worker's compensation........... $950,000
Total compensation with deductions $430,000
Some families with larger insurance policies would receive
even less or possibly no money at all.
The Federal Government also requires that every victim who
accepts payment from the fund must waive the right to sue the airline
industry."
Note the sentence "Some families with larger insurance policies would
receive even less or possibly no money at all."
But then where are you getting your information about who had applied
for the fund? According to CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/23/victims.fund/
There was a late surge in applications. And also, passengers may have
collected directly from the airlines which would have negated any
benefits that they would have received from the compensation fund. So
how many of the passengers collected from the airlines? Even with the
$1.5 billion per airplane cap, passengers could have collected around
$2 million each from the airlines.
>ELLEN MARIANI's husband Louis was killed on this flight. She had
>requested the passenger list several times and kept getting the run
>around. After finally getting the list she tried to contact other
>family members who lost loved ones on the flight as well.
>
>Well apparently she is the only living family member of every
>passenger and crew member on that flight, because she has
>been unable to find even one family member to anyone else
>supposedly on the flight. Odd.
Yes, it is, since Peter Burton Hanson called his father from the
flight.
Madeline Sweeney husband Michael Sweeney, of Acton, Mass. and
children, Jack, 4, and Anna, 6, are still alive.
John Ogonowski's wife, Peggy, and their three children are still quite
alive.
Just to name a few.
<snip>
>Flight # 77 had a total of 58 passengers, yet had 4 attendants,
>Flight # 93 had a total of 38 passengers yet had 5 attendants
>Flight # 11 had a total of 81 passengers yet had 9 attendants
>Flight # 11 had a total of 56 passengers yet had 7 attendants
>
>That's 25 attendants for 4 flights, serving the amount of
>passengers you would have on a normal full flight.
And flight attendants are not assigned based on the aircraft loading.
And we won't even mention that "Sarah" stole most of this post from a
post previously made From: "BUSH=DISCIP...@SATAN.COM"
<BUSH=DISCIP...@SATAN.COM> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 07:49:26 -0700
Check Google.
age...@justicespammail.com
wrote:
My apologies. The previous message was sent before I finished it.
Here's the correct one.
>BTW, it wasn't terrorists who were in charge of airport security at
>all three airports, but in fact was Wackenhut Security, owned and run
>by ex-CIA/FBI agents who were. The same Wackenhut Security who
>Bush teamed up with FEMA, who receives 98% of all government
>security contracts, and just happened to recently replace the security
>at both West Point and Annapolis.
Cite?
Some conspiracy wacko websites claim that a "ůcompany named
Stratesec had an ongoing contractor to handle security at the World
Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down" according to CEO
Barry McDaniel. The company, formerly named Securacom, acquired an
$8.3 million World Trade Center contract in October 1996, according to
SEC filings. The company also provided security for Dulles
International Airport and United Airlines ů"
>Now one would think they would be certainly interested in just how it
>was that 19 supposed hijackers not only managed to get past the
>passenger security check without tickets, by even managed to get
>past the boarding gates without boarding passes.
They had tickets and boarding passes.
>Amazing how the government also claimed with their official story that
>flight # 93 went down in Pennsylvania, which had the tail registration
>#N591UA and nose registration # 5491.
Which is the plane that went down.
>Maybe Bush and his lying government can explain how Capt
>Friedman with Untied Airlines, on April 10, 2003 just happened
>to be flying a 757, flight # 1111, from ORD leaving gate C20, and
>arrived in LAS at gate D39 with the same tail registration # N591UA
>and nose registration # 5491, a year and a half after it supposedly
>crashed ?
It's already been shown that Friedman mad a mistake. The Bureau of
Transportation Statistics (www.bts.gov) lists Flight 1111 on April 10,
2003. Except the aircraft that was used was N594UA, not N591UA.
Capt. Friedman misread a 1 for a 4.
>More interesting facts about the 4 flights on 9-11
>
>On Sept 12, Oprah had a guest claiming he had checked in two of the
>hijackers on the first part of their two leg flight, and that he had a
>weird feeling about the two men, so he didn't give them their boarding
>passes for the second leg of their flights, so they would have to re
>check in at Logan airport in Boston for their flight to Los Angeles.
>He went on an on about how one of the guys eyes were really evil
>looking etc. and described how they were acting, and so on.
>
>There's just a few things wrong with this guys story, but first I
>seriously doubt he even works for any airline company, but
>instead for the government.
>
>1. He claimed he checked the two guys in at the ticket counter, which
>means tickets were issued to the two guys, which included their
>connecting flight , flight #11 Boston to Los Angeles.
And tickets were issued.
>2. Strange how American Airlines has no record of tickets purchased
>by either of the two so called hijackers, no carbon copies of their
>tickets which are removed when you check in and get your
>boarding pass,
Haven't flown lately, have you? Never used an eticket?
>nor are either listed on the official passenger list
>for flight # 11.
Except that they are on the passenger list.
>Other interesting information regarding the 4 so called hijacked
>airliners on 9-11
>
>Flight # 11, 92 crew/passengers, including two pilots and 9 stewards
>on the flight.
>
>Only 20 ( 22%) are listed in the social security death database.
And you don't have a clue as to what the social security death index
is. This too has been explained in depth before.
>Only 3 family members of the 92 on board collected $1.8 million
>each from the government's Compensation Fund for the loss of
>their loved one.
This also has been explained. If one collected from the fund, you
http://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/tows_2002/tows_past_20020131_b.jhtml
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/23/victims.fund/
>ELLEN MARIANI's husband Louis was killed on this flight. She had
>requested the passenger list several times and kept getting the run
>around. After finally getting the list she tried to contact other
>family members who lost loved ones on the flight as well.
>
>Well apparently she is the only living family member of every
>passenger and crew member on that flight, because she has
>been unable to find even one family member to anyone else
>supposedly on the flight. Odd.
Yes, it is, since Peter Burton Hanson called his father from the
flight.
Madeline Sweeney husband Michael Sweeney, of Acton, Mass. and
children, Jack, 4, and Anna, 6, are still alive.
John Ogonowski's wife, Peggy, and their three children are still quite
alive.
Just to name a few.
<snip>
>Flight # 77 had a total of 58 passengers, yet had 4 attendants,
>Flight # 93 had a total of 38 passengers yet had 5 attendants
>Flight # 11 had a total of 81 passengers yet had 9 attendants
>Flight # 11 had a total of 56 passengers yet had 7 attendants
>
>That's 25 attendants for 4 flights, serving the amount of
>passengers you would have on a normal full flight.
And flight attendants are not assigned based on the aircraft loading.