The Next Book (Inn!)
Chucky & Janica
I would write a Debs-monologue here, about the terrible state of
repair the Next Book Inn is in right now ... but I just don't have it
in me. My broadband isn't broad enough to channel Debs, boom boom.
*sigh*
So yeah, the next Jordan book is out. We don't have it yet, but it's
out. Anyone got it? Let's kick this ant hill.
C&J
Steve
"Chucky & Janica" <janica...@kolumbus.fi> wrote in message
news:1saee5t8kd3e7vomk...@4ax.com...
Mine came in the mail from Amazon yesterday, all almost 800 pages worth. :)
sk
vecki
I've just picked it up from the shops on my lunch break. It is
sitting on my desk taunting me with the knowledge that I probably
won't get a chance to start reading it until tomorrow.
The fiance doesn't understand why I had to get it today, when my
birthday is 'just' a month away and it would have been an excellent
idea for a present. A month! How many others could have read it
before me in that time!?
~*~
vecki
David DeLaney
Got it this morning. Read it today, with a nap and a rehearsal in the middle.
get it.
READ IT.
You won't be sorry.
Dave "there are MULTIPLE Crowning Moments of Awesomeness involved. And we have
TWO MORE BOOKS TO GO yet." DeLaney
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Mark Whitaker
janica...@kolumbus.fi says...
Is it really called "The Gathering Storm: The Majestic Conclusion to the
International Bestselling Wheel of Time Series"?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gathering-Storm-Conclusion-International-
Bestselling/dp/1841492418/
I hope so.
> C&J
Mark
Ilya the Recusant
I don't get paid till next week, and my to-read pile is already big
enough as it is. Might just wait till this bugger's in paperback, or
get it from a local library.
>C&J
Ilya the Recusant
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IlyaP
I caved and picked it up Saturday afternoon. Am already 200 pages into
it. And it's good. It's very good. Good in a way that the series
hasn't been since The Fires of Heaven. Things Happen, and there's a
marked reduction in descriptions of clothing, men not understanding
women, etc.
> C&J
IlyaonGoogle
David DeLaney
Heh. Ilya speaks truth. (And we're gonna hear some shouts of "WHAAAAT?" and
"zomg" from his direction, without needing Usenet to carry them, at various
points before he's done.)
About the worst anyone's said about it is that the feel/voice of Mat wasn't
done right.
>IlyaonGoogle
Dave "tell us when you get to the 'she's WHAAAAT?' point" DeLaney
Morelin
Lamamu
i'm about half way through it. my husband offered to buy it for my
birthday too, but that was 2 weeks away. i couldn't wait that long. :)
and it is really good so far.
Chucky & Janica
DeLaney) wrote:
>>I caved and picked it up Saturday afternoon. Am already 200 pages into
>>it. And it's good. It's very good. Good in a way that the series
>>hasn't been since The Fires of Heaven. Things Happen, and there's a
>>marked reduction in descriptions of clothing, men not understanding
>>women, etc.
>
>Heh. Ilya speaks truth. (And we're gonna hear some shouts of "WHAAAAT?" and
>"zomg" from his direction, without needing Usenet to carry them, at various
>points before he's done.)
>
>About the worst anyone's said about it is that the feel/voice of Mat wasn't
>done right.
[J] Yeah. He's not nearly as annoying as he used to be. :)
>Dave "tell us when you get to the 'she's WHAAAAT?' point" DeLaney
[J] I did, and it was awesome.
Chucky's finishing the new Pratchett before getting into this one.
C&J
Brinner
Its actually out? A fuckity, I need to hit a bookshop.
Brinner
Brinner
> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:54:53 -0500, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David
>
> DeLaney) wrote:
> >>I caved and picked it up Saturday afternoon. Am already 200 pages into
> >>it. And it's good. It's very good. Good in a way that the series
> >>hasn't been since The Fires of Heaven. Things Happen, and there's a
> >>marked reduction in descriptions of clothing, men not understanding
> >>women, etc.
>
> >Heh. Ilya speaks truth. (And we're gonna hear some shouts of "WHAAAAT?" and
> >"zomg" from his direction, without needing Usenet to carry them, at various
> >points before he's done.)
>
> >About the worst anyone's said about it is that the feel/voice of Mat wasn't
> >done right.
>
> [J] Yeah. He's not nearly as annoying as he used to be. :)
I don't know about that now, he's pretty annoying.
>
> >Dave "tell us when you get to the 'she's WHAAAAT?' point" DeLaney
>
> [J] I did, and it was awesome.
I am 2/3 of the way through the beast. I hope I haven't got to that
part yet, if I have I am disapointed.
> Chucky's finishing the new Pratchett before getting into this one.
>
hmph.
Brinner
David DeLaney
The word of the day is 'green'. Help spread the word.
Dave
Brinner
> Brinner <keating.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Chucky & Janica <janica.hin...@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
> >> >Dave "tell us when you get to the 'she's WHAAAAT?' point" DeLaney
>
> >> [J] I did, and it was awesome.
>
> >I am 2/3 of the way through the beast. I hope I haven't got to that
> >part yet, if I have I am disapointed.
>
> The word of the day is 'green'. Help spread the word.
>
Just read that earlier. I wondered what the jaysus was going on with
her, makes complete sense. I liked it.
Brinner
Ilya the Recusant
Janica <janica...@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
>
So I'm about 2/3 of the way through the novel (non-spoiler indicator
of location: Gawyn and Bryne). Dare I say this is actually better than
anything written by Jordan in over ten years, if not more.
And I'm going to have to disagree with the naysayers as regards Mat's
sense of humour in this book - if anything he's more toned down, and
less irritating than he has been for, jeez, I don't know how long now
since book 6 maybe?
Sanderson gives good WoT, he really does. It's as though he saw the
annoyances in Jordan's prose and tried to minimise them as much as
possible.
Brinner
> In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space, Chucky &
>
>
> >I would write a Debs-monologue here, about the terrible state of
> >repair the Next Book Inn is in right now ... but I just don't have it
> >in me. My broadband isn't broad enough to channel Debs, boom boom.
>
> >*sigh*
>
> >So yeah, the next Jordan book is out. We don't have it yet, but it's
> >out. Anyone got it? Let's kick this ant hill.
>
> So I'm about 2/3 of the way through the novel (non-spoiler indicator
> of location: Gawyn and Bryne). Dare I say this is actually better than
> anything written by Jordan in over ten years, if not more.
>
> And I'm going to have to disagree with the naysayers as regards Mat's
> sense of humour in this book - if anything he's more toned down, and
> less irritating than he has been for, jeez, I don't know how long now
> since book 6 maybe?
>
> Sanderson gives good WoT, he really does. It's as though he saw the
> annoyances in Jordan's prose and tried to minimise them as much as
> possible.
>
Finished the book a few days ago. I agree with everything you said
there, which makes me slightly uncomfortable.
Brinner
Ilya the Recusant
As the old saying goes: Great Minds and Fools Thinks Alike.
>Brinner
Ilya the Recusant
>Brinner <keatin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Chucky & Janica <janica.hin...@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
>>> >Dave "tell us when you get to the 'she's WHAAAAT?' point" DeLaney
>>>
>>> [J] I did, and it was awesome.
>>
>>I am 2/3 of the way through the beast. I hope I haven't got to that
>>part yet, if I have I am disapointed.
>
>The word of the day is 'green'. Help spread the word.
Any clue as to what you mean? Finished the book this afternoon.
>Dave
Brinner
> In a not so bright galaxy nowhere near intelligent space,
>
> d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
> >>Chucky & Janica <janica.hin...@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
> >>> >Dave "tell us when you get to the 'she's WHAAAAT?' point" DeLaney
>
> >>> [J] I did, and it was awesome.
>
> >>I am 2/3 of the way through the beast. I hope I haven't got to that
> >>part yet, if I have I am disapointed.
>
> >The word of the day is 'green'. Help spread the word.
>
> Any clue as to what you mean? Finished the book this afternoon.
>
>
Verin: "Your dress is green".
Brinner
Ilya the Recusant
Ah yes, that was indeed, awesome.
>Brinner
Angus McSmashie
news:g9tgg554f7j539e9n...@4ax.com:
I just finished the new book. Awesome. (Like a hot dog?)
Hello again, all you alt.fanners.
Glad to see that so many of you were right about someone's identity.
Angus McSmashie
Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom
> Got it this morning. Read it today, with a nap and a rehearsal in the middle.
I finally finished it off, I had that Pratchett to finish and also I
had to stop reading a few times when my finger got sore from tracing
the lines ... it's a long-arsed book.
> get it.
>
> READ IT.
>
> You won't be sorry.
Agreed, it was very nicely done. Only a couple of parts dragged
painfully - like the Gawyn bits and the Mat and Perrin bits - and even
they had their pay-offs. And may have seemed so draggy because they
were used to break up interesting bits like Rand and Egwene's
storyline, that I never wanted to stop.
"Oh come on! They're doing things! Don't stop there!"
Mind you, the last three books or more have dragged like the worst
parts of this one. I mean, I thought the best part of "Knife of
Dreams" was the Egwene chapters, and not because of the spankings. And
it just got better in this book.
> Dave "there are MULTIPLE Crowning Moments of Awesomeness involved. And we have
> TWO MORE BOOKS TO GO yet." DeLaney
I'm trying to decide whether it would have been cooler if Rand had
killed Tam, or if that would have just been too much like Lews Therin
all over again.
I may have to make some separate threads for some of the stuff in this
book.
C@w
--
It should have been called "The Gathering Awesome".
Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom
> > So yeah, the next Jordan book is out. We don't have it yet, but it's
> > out. Anyone got it? Let's kick this ant hill.
>
> Is it really called "The Gathering Storm: The Majestic Conclusion to the
> International Bestselling Wheel of Time Series"?
I think we can oversell it more.
C@w
--
Basically take the Wolf Shirt blurb, and change it to "The Gathering
Storm".
"This book cured my AIDS."
Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom
> About the worst anyone's said about it is that the feel/voice of Mat wasn't
> done right.
I don't know, I had a giggle when one of his peeps called him a
whiner. There's a nice payoff after ten years of Janica saying pretty
much exactly the same thing.
I think Sanderson has done his best to fix up a lot of these
characters. Nynaeve grips her braid but only tugs it once or twice. A
few women fold their arms under their breasts but they're not all in-
your-face about it. And in this book, unlike all the others, when
someone does something that impacts the other threads of the story,
the people in the other threads generally hear about it.
I'm still waiting for Gawyn to realise that a) his mother is still
alive and b) that Rand did the right thing all along, but I guess we
can't have everything. Egwene telling him to sit the fuck down and
Bryne telling him his mother was Lord Gaebril's bitch was a good
start. By midway through the next book, I'm predicting that Gawyn will
actually have a clue.
C@w
--
Oh, and the annoying-arse Siuan-Gareth romance thread? Thank you,
Brandon Sanderson. Thank you SO FUCKING MUCH.
Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom
> > Chucky's finishing the new Pratchett before getting into this one.
>
> hmph.
It was a good book. Not one of Pratchett's best, but definitely fun.
Also, Brandon Sanderson looks like Ponder Stibbons.
C@w
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Brandon_Sanderson_at_CONduit_2007.png
http://tinyurl.com/yc7p2kp
Go on. Tell me I'm wrong. And also, Harry Potter is a total ripoff of
these two.
Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom
> >Verin: "Your dress is green".
>
> Ah yes, that was indeed, awesome.
Explains neatly that bit where she apparently lied in an earlier book.
Does make one wonder how much of it was planned and how much of it was
a plot-shift to cover up an earlier blunder.
If it was a plot-shift to make a retcon, it was very freaking cool.
Made Verin bad without actually having to be bad, and it managed to
deal with most of the Black Ajah at the same time.
C@w
--
And Sanderson pre-empted anyone who was about to say "that's a pretty
dumb loophole in the Dark One's vows" by making Egwene and Verin say
it themselves. Nice one. Although the Dark One is still a tit.
Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom
> I just finished the new book. Awesome. (Like a hot dog?)
Hell diddly ding-dong crap, it's McSmashie!
> Hello again, all you alt.fanners.
Wellity wellity wellity. if it isn't our favourite psychotic Scottish
midget.
Actually it's not. There are at least two or three psychotic Scottish
midgets I like better. But you're in the top ten.
> Glad to see that so many of you were right about someone's identity.
I'm still holding out hope for a turn-around. Rand's use of the True
Power and entering Moridin's dream are clear precursors to him
blending with the anti-Dragon, and now that Lews Therin is out of the
way we can get on with it.
Ishamael was only ever kidding himself about being the anti-Dragon,
and Moridin still gets pissed when people assume he's Ishamael, even
though he is happy to let them believe it. I'm still keeping faith
that this won't be a stupid waste of a good character. Sanderson has
given me reason to believe again.
C@w
--
Also, I don't care.
Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom
> So I'm about 2/3 of the way through the novel (non-spoiler indicator
> of location: Gawyn and Bryne). Dare I say this is actually better than
> anything written by Jordan in over ten years, if not more.
If not more than over ten years? You mean over over ten years?
Sorry, arguing with Contro too much has made me sensitive.
> Sanderson gives good WoT, he really does. It's as though he saw the
> annoyances in Jordan's prose and tried to minimise them as much as
> possible.
Damn right, he's managed to write an 800 pager without that much
padding at all. He still could have cut a few pages of some of the
chapters, but I guess to have that sense of crawling time and epic
extent, you need to put in some filler.
C@w
--
And it was okay filler. I couldn't skim past more than two or three
pages.
Angus McSmashie
c13e-48f6-9bb...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
> On 1 joulu, 10:24, Angus McSmashie <Nos...@sucker.com> wrote:
>
>> I just finished the new book. Awesome. (Like a hot dog?)
>
> Hell diddly ding-dong crap, it's McSmashie!
>
>> Hello again, all you alt.fanners.
>
> Wellity wellity wellity. if it isn't our favourite psychotic Scottish
> midget.
>
> Actually it's not. There are at least two or three psychotic Scottish
> midgets I like better. But you're in the top ten.
Hey hey. Are you and Janica still living in the land of ten thousand lakes?
I still am a big Finnish music fan. (Sonata Arctica, Amorphis,
Thunderstone, etc...)
I'm not dead, but Jordan seems to be. Not to be insensetive, but he could
have been dead for the last ten years for all that he wrote.
Lord Fiddleshits Cuntbottom
> > Wellity wellity wellity. if it isn't our favourite psychotic Scottish
> > midget.
>
> > Actually it's not. There are at least two or three psychotic Scottish
> > midgets I like better. But you're in the top ten.
>
> Hey hey. Are you and Janica still living in the land of ten thousand lakes?
Absolutely. Early December is mild and pleasant, with warm rains and
perpetual darkness.
> I still am a big Finnish music fan. (Sonata Arctica, Amorphis,
> Thunderstone, etc...)
Look up Korpiklaani if you haven't already.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbcwOHvoZbA&feature=fvst
> I'm not dead, but Jordan seems to be. Not to be insensetive, but he could
> have been dead for the last ten years for all that he wrote.
He wasted a lot of quality down-time there.
C@w
--
And Sanderson could have taken over three books ago.
Yes, that *was* insensitive.
Ilya the Recusant
He's the Dark One. He has plans. They're just...very transparent. And
dumb.
Evil does as evil is.
Ilya the Recusant
Fiddleshits Cuntbottom <st.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
Ilya the Recusant
Fiddleshits Cuntbottom <st.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So I'm about 2/3 of the way through the novel (non-spoiler indicator
>> of location: Gawyn and Bryne). Dare I say this is actually better than
>> anything written by Jordan in over ten years, if not more.
>
>If not more than over ten years? You mean over over ten years?
Well let's call fair fair, and admit that Knife of Dreams was a marked
improvement over all of the WoT books from book 7 onwards, and not
just a marked improvement, but a drastic improvement.
>Sorry, arguing with Contro too much has made me sensitive.
He's Contro. Bashing your head into a wall is more productive.
>> Sanderson gives good WoT, he really does. It's as though he saw the
>> annoyances in Jordan's prose and tried to minimise them as much as
>> possible.
>
>Damn right, he's managed to write an 800 pager without that much
>padding at all. He still could have cut a few pages of some of the
>chapters, but I guess to have that sense of crawling time and epic
>extent, you need to put in some filler.
If there was filler in TGS, I did not see it. Honestly. Barring a bit
of necessary descriptive prose, and maybe the prologue with the
farmer, there was scant little that didn't feel like Sanderson trying
his very hardest to wrap Everything up in a way that (a) made sense
and (b) wasn't incredibly stupid.
>C@w
Ilya the Recusant
Fiddleshits Cuntbottom <st.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 1 joulu, 22:22, Angus McSmashie <Nos...@sucker.com> wrote:
>
>> > Wellity wellity wellity. if it isn't our favourite psychotic Scottish
>> > midget.
>>
>> > Actually it's not. There are at least two or three psychotic Scottish
>> > midgets I like better. But you're in the top ten.
>>
>> Hey hey. Are you and Janica still living in the land of ten thousand lakes?
>
>Absolutely. Early December is mild and pleasant, with warm rains and
>perpetual darkness.
>
>> I still am a big Finnish music fan. (Sonata Arctica, Amorphis,
>> Thunderstone, etc...)
>
>Look up Korpiklaani if you haven't already.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbcwOHvoZbA&feature=fvst
They're a great band. Am absolutely backing Chucky up on this one.
That and
>> I'm not dead, but Jordan seems to be. Not to be insensetive, but he could
>> have been dead for the last ten years for all that he wrote.
>
>He wasted a lot of quality down-time there.
>
>
>
>C@w
>--
>And Sanderson could have taken over three books ago.
>
>Yes, that *was* insensitive.
But true.
Chucky & Janica
<keatin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >About the worst anyone's said about it is that the feel/voice of Mat wasn't
>> >done right.
>>
>> [J] Yeah. He's not nearly as annoying as he used to be. :)
>
>I don't know about that now, he's pretty annoying.
Well, he was way more annoying before.
>> >Dave "tell us when you get to the 'she's WHAAAAT?' point" DeLaney
>>
>> [J] I did, and it was awesome.
>
>I am 2/3 of the way through the beast. I hope I haven't got to that
>part yet, if I have I am disapointed.
There were a few such parts. I'm pleased to announce that I knew what
Aviendha was doing wrong in her Wise One test about 600 pages before
she did.
Which isn't really saying much, since most of us know 600 pages ahead
of the characters what is actually going on. If not more.
>> Chucky's finishing the new Pratchett before getting into this one.
>
>hmph.
It was good. "The Gathering Storm" was better.
And I don't know if I've ever said that about the latest Pratchett vs.
the latest Jordan.
C&J
Sure, Jordan is dead and somebody else wrote his book and Pratchett
has Alzheimer's, but still. Holy crap.
Chucky & Janica
<q...@deadspam.net> wrote:
>>> I still am a big Finnish music fan. (Sonata Arctica, Amorphis,
>>> Thunderstone, etc...)
>>
>>Look up Korpiklaani if you haven't already.
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbcwOHvoZbA&feature=fvst
>
>They're a great band. Am absolutely backing Chucky up on this one.
>That and
It was not me who silenced Ilya this time. But it was funny.
>>> I'm not dead, but Jordan seems to be. Not to be insensetive, but he could
>>> have been dead for the last ten years for all that he wrote.
>>
>>He wasted a lot of quality down-time there.
>>
>>And Sanderson could have taken over three books ago.
>>
>>Yes, that *was* insensitive.
>
>But true.
Yeah. But insensitive.
C&J
Chucky & Janica
<q...@deadspam.net> wrote:
>>Oh, and the annoying-arse Siuan-Gareth romance thread? Thank you,
>>Brandon Sanderson. Thank you SO FUCKING MUCH.
>
>I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
Serious. They were annoying as all fuck for about four books.
Sanderson paired them up and made them act like God damn adults.
Finally.
C&J
Chucky & Janica
<q...@deadspam.net> wrote:
>>> So I'm about 2/3 of the way through the novel (non-spoiler indicator
>>> of location: Gawyn and Bryne). Dare I say this is actually better than
>>> anything written by Jordan in over ten years, if not more.
>>
>>If not more than over ten years? You mean over over ten years?
>
>Well let's call fair fair, and admit that Knife of Dreams was a marked
>improvement over all of the WoT books from book 7 onwards, and not
>just a marked improvement, but a drastic improvement.
I can get behind that proposition.
>>Sorry, arguing with Contro too much has made me sensitive.
>
>He's Contro. Bashing your head into a wall is more productive.
And this one.
>>Damn right, he's managed to write an 800 pager without that much
>>padding at all. He still could have cut a few pages of some of the
>>chapters, but I guess to have that sense of crawling time and epic
>>extent, you need to put in some filler.
>
>If there was filler in TGS, I did not see it.
Well, I confess to rolling my eyes every time a Gawyn chapter came up.
Those were a bit uneventful. But even those, he tossed in a few nice
gory Bubbles of Evil(TM) to liven things up.
>Honestly. Barring a bit
>of necessary descriptive prose, and maybe the prologue with the
>farmer, there was scant little that didn't feel like Sanderson trying
>his very hardest to wrap Everything up in a way that (a) made sense
>and (b) wasn't incredibly stupid.
Yeah. Fair enough. We did need the farmer scene though, as without it
we would still not know what was going on in the Borderlands. They're
basically ... uh, rallying? or fleeing?
C&J
Flallying.