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Don Stockbauer

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Sep 22, 2022, 7:55:25 PM9/22/22
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On Thursday, March 9, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, RMJon23 wrote:
> (RAWphiliacs: I'm having a tough time getting this to show up on my news
> server, so I've broken it in three. -Michele [AKA Elmyr])
> Changes to v 1.6 of the FAQAFUQ:
> - added new details provided by Michael or Michele (RMJ...@aol.com)
> to section 2.0.1. (the book by Sharon Presley, the 1990 "Loompanics
> Geatest Hits" and exact titles of RAW's contribution to "Popular
> Alienation: A Steamshovel Press Reader)
> - new section: 4.0 PARTIAL LIST OF RAW INTERVIEWS (both on and off
> the WWW); material again provided by RMJon23
>
> - RAW LINKS: included a link to http://www.rit.org
>
> The WWW version can normally be found at
> http://www3.cybercities.com/a/altfanrawilson/
> Due to technical difficulties at cybercities (they are currently
> in the process of updating their hardware), the WWW version may
> not always be available in the next few days. The WWW version
> also lags behind a bit, but will be updated as soon as possible.
>
> (Elmyr)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> UNOFFICIAL ALT.FAN.RAWILSON FAQAFUQ V 1.6
>
> A compilation of Frequently Answered Questions and Frequently
> Unanswered Questions. Also containing some Frequently Questioned
> Answers and all this of course "being" true in some sense, false in
> some sense, meaningful in some sense and meaningless in some sense.
>
> This FAQAFUQ in HTML:
> http://www3.cybercities.com/a/altfanrawilson/
>
> CONTENTS
> 1.0 FREQUENTLY ANSWERED QUESTIONS
> * Will there be another part of the Illuminati Chronicles ?
> * Does RAW read this newsgroup ?
> * What the hell is really going on about The Illuminatus! sequel
> ("Bride of Illuminatus!") ?
> * Was The Principia Discordia written by RAW ?
> * What about the other Bob ?
> * Does anyone know RAW's E-mail address ?
> 1.1 FREQUENTLY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
> * What the hell is really going on ?
> * What the hell is really going on about The Illuminatus! play ?
>
> 2.0 RAW BIBLIOGRAPHY
> 2.0.1 INCOMPLETE LIST OF BOOKS FOR WHICH RAW HAS WRITTEN THE INTRO-
> DUCTION, PREFACE, OR SOME OTHER CONTRIBUTION
>
> 3.0 RAW BIOGRAPHY
>
> 4.0 PARTIAL LIST OF RAW INTERVIEWS
>
> 5.0 RAW LINKS
> 5.1 RAW'S RECOMMENDED READING AND CORRESPONDING/RELATED LINKS
> 5.2 SOMEHOW RELATED LINKS
> 1.0 FREQUENTLY ANSWERED QUESTIONS:
> * Will there be another part of the Illuminati Chronicles ?
> Perhaps. Tentative title The World Turned Upside Down, named after
> a song from the period of the American Revolution. Wilson has had bad
> luck with publishers with this series & doesn't seem in a rush to write
> this book. (ewagn...@aol.com)
> yes, this book is scheduled to be published in early 2000. its
> tentative title is "Here it is You alt.fan.rawilson Fuckers, Book
> Motherfucking Four, Finally". (j...@ntplx.net)
>
> * Does RAW read this newsgroup ?
> Yes, at least sometimes. (ewagn...@aol.com)
>
> * What the hell is really going on about The Illuminatus! sequel
> ("Bride of Illuminatus!") ?
> Wilson & Shea planned this book before Bob Shea's death. Wilson
> published an excerpt in Trajectories. (ewagn...@aol.com)
>
> * Was The Principia Discordia written by RAW ?
> No. The Principia Discordia was written by Lord Omar Khayyam Ravenhurst
> (Kerry Thornley) and Malaclypse the Younger (Greg Hill). However, RAW
> did the introduction to the 4th edition of the Loompanics Principia.
> This introduction can be found at:
> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tilt/principia/intro4.html
> (el...@my-deja.com)
>
> * What about the other Bob ?
> I have been able to find precious little info about Bob Shea. Here is
> what I have:
> Robert Joseph Shea (1933 - March 10, 1994)
> BIBLIOGRAPHY
> Shike : Time of the Dragons (1981)
> Shike : Last of the Zinja (1981)
> All Things Are Lights (1986)
> From No Man's Land to Plaza Del Lago (1987)
> The Saracen : Land of the Infidel (1989)
> The Saracen : The Holy War (1989)
> Shaman (1991)
> (igo...@my-dejanews.com)
>
> * Does anyone know Robert Anton Wilson's E-mail address?
> Sombunall of us think he posts here infrequently. If you have
> around 100 messages on your alt.fan.rawilson "unread" list,
> one of them might have emanated from Our Man. His style seems
> unmistakeable, to me at least. If you've read his books, I'm
> mildly surprised you haven't guessed it yet. There's a chance
> I may be wrong, I dunno. Someone may be pranking by being very
> good at resembling his remarks. Beyond that, I must remain
> silent.
> (RMJ...@aol.com)
>
> 1.1 FREQUENTLY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
> * What the hell is really going on ?
> THINK FOR YOURSELF, SCHMUCK!
> (Robert A. Wilson, Robert Shea,_Illuminatus !_, p.86)
>
> * What the hell is really going on about The Illuminatus! play ?

Man I can hear those conti tractors go on a lot. I bet they'll have that hay baled up pretty soon now you know you can get a real prime price for that if you know how to market it right.

Don Stockbauer

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Jul 29, 2023, 9:17:21 AM7/29/23
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and the Conti's got another cutting just like this week. man you look down on the Guadalupe floodplain there's hundreds and hundreds of bales
you do know that bells of hay are used to feed cattle and then those go into your local McDonald's itz that stuff between the two buns, so anyway, y'all have a magnificent day and eat more pecans.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 5, 2023, 12:59:44 AM8/5/23
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My friend told me he's dating a lady from Turkey. I really didn't believe him.
I thought he was just telling a lie .

Then I saw her fez
Now I'm a believer
Not a trace
Of doubt in my mind.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 5, 2023, 1:37:08 PM8/5/23
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test

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 7, 2023, 7:06:45 AM8/7/23
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I wonder if AI and ChatGPT was written up by Mackay in his classic "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" under the tulipmania section.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 7, 2023, 3:56:27 PM8/7/23
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I know cryptocurrency was written up. Mackay had a motto, "The more abstract your monetary system is the easier it is to get huckstered out of your money."

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 7, 2023, 3:57:44 PM8/7/23
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What has to be done is you get as many systems out there as possible fighting climate change, anywhere from big organizations down to one guy recycling plastic and then you make sure that those systems combine according to the metasystem transition , which will make everything go very very quickly. But you have to figure out how to force a metasystem transition upon them because not all systems combine into one. An acorn does when it grows into an oak tree , a supersaturated solution does when it's shaken, amazingly fast. But maybe there's no way to force one upon systems. Is the mere fact that the systems communicate with each other enough?
We might not even be able to recognize the metasystem for what it is, just as a single individual has trouble knowing what's going on with the entire Earth.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 8, 2023, 4:25:22 AM8/8/23
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of course, one problem is that there is so much smart ass, tongue-in-cheek material, printed out there that when somebody actually does come up with something useful, it's just dismissed and everybody dies .

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 8, 2023, 5:06:46 AM8/8/23
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One way to handle global warming is that well around here in Texas we have 100° afternoons Fahrenheit but mornings are like 70° so once the temperatures get up to like about 150 or so the morning temperature gonna be 80° or so and you just get out and do your work then don't wait till the 150° temperature in the afternoon. Oh I remember my father we would be grubbing Huisache is and then it will be hot in the afternoons and he would say well. Just get up at five in the morning no big deal. Have a nice day.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 8, 2023, 12:29:47 PM8/8/23
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And probably you can try to ensure that a metasystem takes place to reverse climate change, but either it does by itself or it doesn't, but I suspect how you can aid it is to make sure there's as much communication among the subsystems as possible. We already have a tremendous amount of communication everywhere, but what would help would be that the subsystems that go into defeating climate change would especially need a lot of communication.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 9, 2023, 10:52:35 AM8/9/23
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"Oh my God, Ralph. We have stupidity coming in that the Russians have just done a preemptive launch of all their nuclear forces against the United States!"

" Oh Gertrude, are you sure you've got the stupidity right , you better phone the boys over at the central, stupidity agency, and confirm that" Yes it's confirmed. The russkies have done a preemptive strike against the United States and of course MAD will prevail. the situation is mad isn't it? Yes it is. What's that motto you have up there on the wall ? "any civilization which is so intelligent, as to create nuclear weapons, deserves to die by them "

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 9, 2023, 12:23:56 PM8/9/23
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Humans should be thankful for these latest sciences, such as cybernetics and chaos theory and principles such as self organization and the metasystem transition and emergence and transcendence and all that because they do so much work for them , they can get on Facebook and create endless inane dialogues made to structure their lives, then they die.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 9, 2023, 2:25:19 PM8/9/23
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It amazes to me that you can meet someone , get to know them well , spent 30 years with them and they'll still have relatives out there that they've never mentioned to you.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 9, 2023, 6:31:38 PM8/9/23
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So basically, what should be done is people working on climate change elimination should get with the new sciences , such as cybernetics , instead of being stuck with old fashion, stodgy sciences, like quantum theory and relativity theory.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 9, 2023, 9:51:36 PM8/9/23
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The entire body of Zen knowledge can be condensed to the following two sentences:

It can't be told with words.

It can't be told without words.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 9, 2023, 9:57:43 PM8/9/23
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What if the acceleration we see of the Universe does not have to be powered by energy , what if it's just an attribute of the Universe ever since the Big Bang , just like gravity is?

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 10, 2023, 2:08:26 AM8/10/23
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Since everyone now has a communications device in their hand during their every waking hour, except for a few people living in mud huts along the Congo River, the Global Brain should be locking-in pretty fast now.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 10, 2023, 3:11:15 AM8/10/23
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Boy, the Earth sure has a lot of big problems ,
doesn't it?

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 10, 2023, 8:59:04 AM8/10/23
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I've heard the same thing from two different people in the last few days. You have those countries like China, Mexico and India that are not going to adhere to any lowered CO2 emission standards, so what can we do? just turn our jugular veins to the side and wait to die ??? Well, it just Hass to be some type of world government. How do you achieve that ? Would Cybernetic Socialism automatically formed by the massive amount of communications we have worldwide automatically form a living planet that cares about itself be the solution?

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 10, 2023, 5:12:02 PM8/10/23
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I kind of get a kick out of this : we're having all these hot temperatures, like Phoenix today has 115F, Whamblurt in China has 134 and what is all this? Reporting. We're reporting temperatures . Are we doing anything about it? No. We're reporting that we got a bunch of worthless reporters out there reporting the temperatures . Reminds me of this analogy , a guy has been set on flames and he says "I'm now at 1000°F, I'm now at 1100 degrees, now at 1200....."

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 10, 2023, 7:33:06 PM8/10/23
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I just finished listening to the song "Pretty Ballerina". Now I believe everything.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 11, 2023, 3:30:54 PM8/11/23
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Well, not me really , the singer sings "was I surprised , yes . was I surprised, no not at all " Which is a direct contradiction .Douglas Hofstadter in Godel, Escher, Bach said that if we encounter a direct contradiction in our lives we are forced to believe everything , which is what the logic boils down to, however, he goes on to explain that we probably wouldn't just go out and believe everything , we'd probably look at information outside the contradiction and so forth to make sense of it .

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 11, 2023, 6:08:33 PM8/11/23
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Well, seems like the Global Brain might come in handy to help solve the climate change crisis, but you know what, how many thousand other huge problems does the Earth have, and what's the only thing that has any chance of solving all those?

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 12, 2023, 4:21:55 AM8/12/23
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I read up a little bit about tipping points. pretty grim. Does anybody know if we've already reached the tipping point on a lot of these things they talk about like the Antarctic ice sheet or whatever ? it's pretty grim . it looks like you could extinct humanity by having a terrorist group go around and start forest fires everywhere . pretty grim .and you know what ?when the Earth is a charred cinder either from climate change or from nuclear war the galaxy won't even care. why ? well , Sagan had his pale blue dot analogy but I like this one better : suppose the galaxy is analogous to a city of 1 million people . suppose one homeless person dies in it. does that city care??? No . it buries the body out in pauper's field, , so what happens when earth goes lifeless ? Does the galaxy care ? One more planet lifeless instead of with life , no big deal.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 12, 2023, 4:57:41 AM8/12/23
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In climate science, a tipping point is a critical threshold that, when crossed, leads to large and often irreversible changes in the climate system.[1] If tipping points are crossed, they are likely to have severe impacts on human society.[2][3] Tipping behavior is found across the climate system, in ecosystems, ice sheets, and the circulation of the ocean and atmosphere.[3]


Don Stockbauer

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Aug 12, 2023, 5:03:10 PM8/12/23
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and these people think that you can go out to a ranch and tip over a cow while it is sleeping standing up, which is just impossible, good grief they sleep lying down. That's also how the cow prevents the bull from mating with her : fun facts to know and tell.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 12, 2023, 5:07:04 PM8/12/23
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"Waitress. Do you have a jar around here to put tips in?"

"Yes, it's right over there , that's our tipping point."

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 13, 2023, 12:44:57 AM8/13/23
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so how do we know when we've tipped over past the tipping point? we have an awfully hot summer. Have we tipped over past the tipping point already, kind of sounds like if you've tipped over past the tipping point things are pretty rotten for you. You should've done something to prevent the tipping point before the tipping point tipped over.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 13, 2023, 12:28:40 PM8/13/23
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By my experience, shuddahs aren't very helpful.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 13, 2023, 1:22:35 PM8/13/23
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There are as many stars in the Universe
as there are grains of sand on all the beaches of Planet Earth.

- Carl Sagan

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 15, 2023, 1:50:31 PM8/15/23
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I keep saying that machines have to be governed by humans but I keep forgetting that science fiction where machines get so advanced they're equal to or are superior to humans .

Things sure get complicated, don't they. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 15, 2023, 4:12:44 PM8/15/23
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Does the tipping point apply to just individual things like the Greenland ice sheet or does it apply to the Earth as a whole , that is , have the global temperatures reached a tipping point?

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 16, 2023, 12:05:37 AM8/16/23
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do your thoughts automatically go into metasystem transition and form higher level thoughts

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 16, 2023, 1:33:59 AM8/16/23
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If I had a box just for wishes
And dreams that had never come true
The box would be empty
Except for the memory of how they were answered by you.

boy, that's a hard one to figure out, isn't it?

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 16, 2023, 2:03:30 AM8/16/23
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A fellow bought a TV mainly for his wife's enjoyment. However, when he got it home, he found that the cord didn't quite reach the electrical outlet, so he went out and bought an extension cord so that he could thrill his wife with extra inches.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 16, 2023, 2:20:30 AM8/16/23
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Ralph and George were good friends but then George decided he wanted out of the relationship so he decided to never communicate with Ralph again . Years go by and George needs a kidney to live. Ralph knows where there's a kidney to be had so he sends a message to George to that effect. George decides to keep his vow to never communicate with Ralph again, and he dies.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 16, 2023, 2:32:16 AM8/16/23
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never display inappropriate behavior.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 16, 2023, 5:23:18 PM8/16/23
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Do you think it would do some good to use AI art to make a video about how Humanity will be extincted by climate change, and then arrange a worldwide Zoom session for world leaders to view the video and then maybe talk about it a little bit ?

Should be interesting how each coming summer will get hotter and hotter.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 16, 2023, 6:05:22 PM8/16/23
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The tourists going to see the Great Pyramid of Giza have been complaining about the long drive, so the Egyptian government has decided move the pyramid stone by stone to just outside the airport.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 17, 2023, 12:08:44 AM8/17/23
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Any civilization stupid enough to build nuclear weapons deserves to die by them.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 17, 2023, 12:13:11 AM8/17/23
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Don McLean had a couple of very interesting lines in one of the songs , which go:

If Humanity is allowed to destroy all it needs,
It may soon have to pay with its life for its greed.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 17, 2023, 1:33:49 PM8/17/23
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Actually, everybody on Earth would need to get in on the Zoom session because Global Brain theory states that everybody is running the Earth, not just leaders, whether they know it or not.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 17, 2023, 1:46:23 PM8/17/23
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A man rides into town on a horse and he needs to take it to a blacksmith to have its shoe repaired and he can't quite remember where the shop is so he asks himself "Where did I take this horse that I rode in on at to before."

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 17, 2023, 6:43:34 PM8/17/23
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The best way to exert control over someone no
matter how powerful is to ignore them.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 17, 2023, 7:32:17 PM8/17/23
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I think that this summer's high temperatures are a government conspiracy.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 18, 2023, 1:38:38 AM8/18/23
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And Richard Cory went to bed,
and put a bullet through his head.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 20, 2023, 6:38:39 AM8/20/23
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So generate a lot of systems .

Make sure they will combine into a metasystem.

Once the metasystem forms do not expect to even recognize it for what it is ; does one neuron in a brain understand the mind it helps form???

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 20, 2023, 6:48:43 AM8/20/23
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The best way to control someone is to ignore them.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 20, 2023, 10:49:03 AM8/20/23
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Metasystem's are very powerful.

Don Stockbauer

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Aug 20, 2023, 10:50:21 AM8/20/23
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I wonder if monkeys and gorillas and such consider us humans to be bullying invading monkeys and gorillas, who are using an unfair tactic: "intelligence ".