Re: alt.fan.rawilson FAQFUQ 1.6 (in 3 parts)

[Don Stockbauer]

On Thursday, March 9, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, RMJon23 wrote:
> (RAWphiliacs: I'm having a tough time getting this to show up on my news
> server, so I've broken it in three. -Michele [AKA Elmyr])
> Changes to v 1.6 of the FAQAFUQ:
> - added new details provided by Michael or Michele (RMJ...@aol.com)
> to section 2.0.1. (the book by Sharon Presley, the 1990 "Loompanics
> Geatest Hits" and exact titles of RAW's contribution to "Popular
> Alienation: A Steamshovel Press Reader)
> - new section: 4.0 PARTIAL LIST OF RAW INTERVIEWS (both on and off
> the WWW); material again provided by RMJon23
>
> - RAW LINKS: included a link to http://www.rit.org
>
> The WWW version can normally be found at
> http://www3.cybercities.com/a/altfanrawilson/
> Due to technical difficulties at cybercities (they are currently
> in the process of updating their hardware), the WWW version may
> not always be available in the next few days. The WWW version
> also lags behind a bit, but will be updated as soon as possible.
>
> (Elmyr)
>
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> UNOFFICIAL ALT.FAN.RAWILSON FAQAFUQ V 1.6
>
> A compilation of Frequently Answered Questions and Frequently
> Unanswered Questions. Also containing some Frequently Questioned
> Answers and all this of course "being" true in some sense, false in
> some sense, meaningful in some sense and meaningless in some sense.
>
> This FAQAFUQ in HTML:
> http://www3.cybercities.com/a/altfanrawilson/
>
> CONTENTS
> 1.0 FREQUENTLY ANSWERED QUESTIONS
> * Will there be another part of the Illuminati Chronicles ?
> * Does RAW read this newsgroup ?
> * What the hell is really going on about The Illuminatus! sequel
> ("Bride of Illuminatus!") ?
> * Was The Principia Discordia written by RAW ?
> * What about the other Bob ?
> * Does anyone know RAW's E-mail address ?
> 1.1 FREQUENTLY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
> * What the hell is really going on ?
> * What the hell is really going on about The Illuminatus! play ?
>
> 2.0 RAW BIBLIOGRAPHY
> 2.0.1 INCOMPLETE LIST OF BOOKS FOR WHICH RAW HAS WRITTEN THE INTRO-
> DUCTION, PREFACE, OR SOME OTHER CONTRIBUTION
>
> 3.0 RAW BIOGRAPHY
>
> 4.0 PARTIAL LIST OF RAW INTERVIEWS
>
> 5.0 RAW LINKS
> 5.1 RAW'S RECOMMENDED READING AND CORRESPONDING/RELATED LINKS
> 5.2 SOMEHOW RELATED LINKS
> 1.0 FREQUENTLY ANSWERED QUESTIONS:
> * Will there be another part of the Illuminati Chronicles ?
> Perhaps. Tentative title The World Turned Upside Down, named after
> a song from the period of the American Revolution. Wilson has had bad
> luck with publishers with this series & doesn't seem in a rush to write
> this book. (ewagn...@aol.com)
> yes, this book is scheduled to be published in early 2000. its
> tentative title is "Here it is You alt.fan.rawilson Fuckers, Book
> Motherfucking Four, Finally". (j...@ntplx.net)
>
> * Does RAW read this newsgroup ?
> Yes, at least sometimes. (ewagn...@aol.com)
>
> * What the hell is really going on about The Illuminatus! sequel
> ("Bride of Illuminatus!") ?
> Wilson & Shea planned this book before Bob Shea's death. Wilson
> published an excerpt in Trajectories. (ewagn...@aol.com)
>
> * Was The Principia Discordia written by RAW ?
> No. The Principia Discordia was written by Lord Omar Khayyam Ravenhurst
> (Kerry Thornley) and Malaclypse the Younger (Greg Hill). However, RAW
> did the introduction to the 4th edition of the Loompanics Principia.
> This introduction can be found at:
> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~tilt/principia/intro4.html
> (el...@my-deja.com)
>
> * What about the other Bob ?
> I have been able to find precious little info about Bob Shea. Here is
> what I have:
> Robert Joseph Shea (1933 - March 10, 1994)
> BIBLIOGRAPHY
> Shike : Time of the Dragons (1981)
> Shike : Last of the Zinja (1981)
> All Things Are Lights (1986)
> From No Man's Land to Plaza Del Lago (1987)
> The Saracen : Land of the Infidel (1989)
> The Saracen : The Holy War (1989)
> Shaman (1991)
> (igo...@my-dejanews.com)
>
> * Does anyone know Robert Anton Wilson's E-mail address?
> Sombunall of us think he posts here infrequently. If you have
> around 100 messages on your alt.fan.rawilson "unread" list,
> one of them might have emanated from Our Man. His style seems
> unmistakeable, to me at least. If you've read his books, I'm
> mildly surprised you haven't guessed it yet. There's a chance
> I may be wrong, I dunno. Someone may be pranking by being very
> good at resembling his remarks. Beyond that, I must remain
> silent.
> (RMJ...@aol.com)
>
> 1.1 FREQUENTLY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
> * What the hell is really going on ?
> THINK FOR YOURSELF, SCHMUCK!
> (Robert A. Wilson, Robert Shea,_Illuminatus !_, p.86)
>
> * What the hell is really going on about The Illuminatus! play ?

Man I can hear those conti tractors go on a lot. I bet they'll have that hay baled up pretty soon now you know you can get a real prime price for that if you know how to market it right.

[Don Stockbauer]

and the Conti's got another cutting just like this week. man you look down on the Guadalupe floodplain there's hundreds and hundreds of bales
you do know that bells of hay are used to feed cattle and then those go into your local McDonald's itz that stuff between the two buns, so anyway, y'all have a magnificent day and eat more pecans.

[Don Stockbauer]

My friend told me he's dating a lady from Turkey. I really didn't believe him.
I thought he was just telling a lie .

Then I saw her fez
Now I'm a believer
Not a trace
Of doubt in my mind.

[Don Stockbauer]

test

[Don Stockbauer]

I wonder if AI and ChatGPT was written up by Mackay in his classic "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" under the tulipmania section.

[Don Stockbauer]

I know cryptocurrency was written up. Mackay had a motto, "The more abstract your monetary system is the easier it is to get huckstered out of your money."

[Don Stockbauer]

What has to be done is you get as many systems out there as possible fighting climate change, anywhere from big organizations down to one guy recycling plastic and then you make sure that those systems combine according to the metasystem transition , which will make everything go very very quickly. But you have to figure out how to force a metasystem transition upon them because not all systems combine into one. An acorn does when it grows into an oak tree , a supersaturated solution does when it's shaken, amazingly fast. But maybe there's no way to force one upon systems. Is the mere fact that the systems communicate with each other enough?
We might not even be able to recognize the metasystem for what it is, just as a single individual has trouble knowing what's going on with the entire Earth.

[Don Stockbauer]

of course, one problem is that there is so much smart ass, tongue-in-cheek material, printed out there that when somebody actually does come up with something useful, it's just dismissed and everybody dies .

[Don Stockbauer]

One way to handle global warming is that well around here in Texas we have 100° afternoons Fahrenheit but mornings are like 70° so once the temperatures get up to like about 150 or so the morning temperature gonna be 80° or so and you just get out and do your work then don't wait till the 150° temperature in the afternoon. Oh I remember my father we would be grubbing Huisache is and then it will be hot in the afternoons and he would say well. Just get up at five in the morning no big deal. Have a nice day.

[Don Stockbauer]

And probably you can try to ensure that a metasystem takes place to reverse climate change, but either it does by itself or it doesn't, but I suspect how you can aid it is to make sure there's as much communication among the subsystems as possible. We already have a tremendous amount of communication everywhere, but what would help would be that the subsystems that go into defeating climate change would especially need a lot of communication.

[Don Stockbauer]

"Oh my God, Ralph. We have stupidity coming in that the Russians have just done a preemptive launch of all their nuclear forces against the United States!"

" Oh Gertrude, are you sure you've got the stupidity right , you better phone the boys over at the central, stupidity agency, and confirm that" Yes it's confirmed. The russkies have done a preemptive strike against the United States and of course MAD will prevail. the situation is mad isn't it? Yes it is. What's that motto you have up there on the wall ? "any civilization which is so intelligent, as to create nuclear weapons, deserves to die by them "

[Don Stockbauer]

Humans should be thankful for these latest sciences, such as cybernetics and chaos theory and principles such as self organization and the metasystem transition and emergence and transcendence and all that because they do so much work for them , they can get on Facebook and create endless inane dialogues made to structure their lives, then they die.

[Don Stockbauer]

It amazes to me that you can meet someone , get to know them well , spent 30 years with them and they'll still have relatives out there that they've never mentioned to you.

[Don Stockbauer]

So basically, what should be done is people working on climate change elimination should get with the new sciences , such as cybernetics , instead of being stuck with old fashion, stodgy sciences, like quantum theory and relativity theory.

[Don Stockbauer]

The entire body of Zen knowledge can be condensed to the following two sentences:

It can't be told with words.

It can't be told without words.

[Don Stockbauer]

What if the acceleration we see of the Universe does not have to be powered by energy , what if it's just an attribute of the Universe ever since the Big Bang , just like gravity is?

[Don Stockbauer]

Since everyone now has a communications device in their hand during their every waking hour, except for a few people living in mud huts along the Congo River, the Global Brain should be locking-in pretty fast now.

[Don Stockbauer]

Boy, the Earth sure has a lot of big problems ,
doesn't it?

[Don Stockbauer]

I've heard the same thing from two different people in the last few days. You have those countries like China, Mexico and India that are not going to adhere to any lowered CO2 emission standards, so what can we do? just turn our jugular veins to the side and wait to die ??? Well, it just Hass to be some type of world government. How do you achieve that ? Would Cybernetic Socialism automatically formed by the massive amount of communications we have worldwide automatically form a living planet that cares about itself be the solution?

[Don Stockbauer]

I kind of get a kick out of this : we're having all these hot temperatures, like Phoenix today has 115F, Whamblurt in China has 134 and what is all this? Reporting. We're reporting temperatures . Are we doing anything about it? No. We're reporting that we got a bunch of worthless reporters out there reporting the temperatures . Reminds me of this analogy , a guy has been set on flames and he says "I'm now at 1000°F, I'm now at 1100 degrees, now at 1200....."

[Don Stockbauer]

I just finished listening to the song "Pretty Ballerina". Now I believe everything.

[Don Stockbauer]

Well, not me really , the singer sings "was I surprised , yes . was I surprised, no not at all " Which is a direct contradiction .Douglas Hofstadter in Godel, Escher, Bach said that if we encounter a direct contradiction in our lives we are forced to believe everything , which is what the logic boils down to, however, he goes on to explain that we probably wouldn't just go out and believe everything , we'd probably look at information outside the contradiction and so forth to make sense of it .

[Don Stockbauer]

Well, seems like the Global Brain might come in handy to help solve the climate change crisis, but you know what, how many thousand other huge problems does the Earth have, and what's the only thing that has any chance of solving all those?

[Don Stockbauer]

I read up a little bit about tipping points. pretty grim. Does anybody know if we've already reached the tipping point on a lot of these things they talk about like the Antarctic ice sheet or whatever ? it's pretty grim . it looks like you could extinct humanity by having a terrorist group go around and start forest fires everywhere . pretty grim .and you know what ?when the Earth is a charred cinder either from climate change or from nuclear war the galaxy won't even care. why ? well , Sagan had his pale blue dot analogy but I like this one better : suppose the galaxy is analogous to a city of 1 million people . suppose one homeless person dies in it. does that city care??? No . it buries the body out in pauper's field, , so what happens when earth goes lifeless ? Does the galaxy care ? One more planet lifeless instead of with life , no big deal.

[Don Stockbauer]

In climate science, a tipping point is a critical threshold that, when crossed, leads to large and often irreversible changes in the climate system.[1] If tipping points are crossed, they are likely to have severe impacts on human society.[2][3] Tipping behavior is found across the climate system, in ecosystems, ice sheets, and the circulation of the ocean and atmosphere.[3]

[Don Stockbauer]

and these people think that you can go out to a ranch and tip over a cow while it is sleeping standing up, which is just impossible, good grief they sleep lying down. That's also how the cow prevents the bull from mating with her : fun facts to know and tell.

[Don Stockbauer]

"Waitress. Do you have a jar around here to put tips in?"

"Yes, it's right over there , that's our tipping point."

[Don Stockbauer]

so how do we know when we've tipped over past the tipping point? we have an awfully hot summer. Have we tipped over past the tipping point already, kind of sounds like if you've tipped over past the tipping point things are pretty rotten for you. You should've done something to prevent the tipping point before the tipping point tipped over.

[Don Stockbauer]

By my experience, shuddahs aren't very helpful.

[Don Stockbauer]

There are as many stars in the Universe
as there are grains of sand on all the beaches of Planet Earth.

- Carl Sagan

[Don Stockbauer]

I keep saying that machines have to be governed by humans but I keep forgetting that science fiction where machines get so advanced they're equal to or are superior to humans .

Things sure get complicated, don't they. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

[Don Stockbauer]

Does the tipping point apply to just individual things like the Greenland ice sheet or does it apply to the Earth as a whole , that is , have the global temperatures reached a tipping point?

[Don Stockbauer]

do your thoughts automatically go into metasystem transition and form higher level thoughts

[Don Stockbauer]

If I had a box just for wishes
And dreams that had never come true
The box would be empty
Except for the memory of how they were answered by you.

boy, that's a hard one to figure out, isn't it?

[Don Stockbauer]

A fellow bought a TV mainly for his wife's enjoyment. However, when he got it home, he found that the cord didn't quite reach the electrical outlet, so he went out and bought an extension cord so that he could thrill his wife with extra inches.

[Don Stockbauer]

Ralph and George were good friends but then George decided he wanted out of the relationship so he decided to never communicate with Ralph again . Years go by and George needs a kidney to live. Ralph knows where there's a kidney to be had so he sends a message to George to that effect. George decides to keep his vow to never communicate with Ralph again, and he dies.

[Don Stockbauer]

never display inappropriate behavior.

[Don Stockbauer]

Do you think it would do some good to use AI art to make a video about how Humanity will be extincted by climate change, and then arrange a worldwide Zoom session for world leaders to view the video and then maybe talk about it a little bit ?

Should be interesting how each coming summer will get hotter and hotter.

[Don Stockbauer]

The tourists going to see the Great Pyramid of Giza have been complaining about the long drive, so the Egyptian government has decided move the pyramid stone by stone to just outside the airport.

[Don Stockbauer]

Any civilization stupid enough to build nuclear weapons deserves to die by them.

[Don Stockbauer]

Don McLean had a couple of very interesting lines in one of the songs , which go:

If Humanity is allowed to destroy all it needs,
It may soon have to pay with its life for its greed.

[Don Stockbauer]

Actually, everybody on Earth would need to get in on the Zoom session because Global Brain theory states that everybody is running the Earth, not just leaders, whether they know it or not.

[Don Stockbauer]

A man rides into town on a horse and he needs to take it to a blacksmith to have its shoe repaired and he can't quite remember where the shop is so he asks himself "Where did I take this horse that I rode in on at to before."

[Don Stockbauer]

The best way to exert control over someone no
matter how powerful is to ignore them.

[Don Stockbauer]

I think that this summer's high temperatures are a government conspiracy.

[Don Stockbauer]

And Richard Cory went to bed,
and put a bullet through his head.

[Don Stockbauer]

So generate a lot of systems .

Make sure they will combine into a metasystem.

Once the metasystem forms do not expect to even recognize it for what it is ; does one neuron in a brain understand the mind it helps form???

[Don Stockbauer]

The best way to control someone is to ignore them.

[Don Stockbauer]

Metasystem's are very powerful.

[Don Stockbauer]

I wonder if monkeys and gorillas and such consider us humans to be bullying invading monkeys and gorillas, who are using an unfair tactic: "intelligence ".

[Don Stockbauer]

I think we're pretty much doomed. Do you think we'll ever get everybody cooperating and working together?If a nation sees that it's in their favor to burn tons and tons of coal , they'll do it. Oh well, like that movie "On the Waterfront " had a line, "Earth could have been a contender. "

[Don Stockbauer]

we're probably not doomed
probably just have to accommodate high temperatures.
Probably the population will come way down which is probably a good thing
I mean too many people to get to know in one
lifetime anyway.

[Don Stockbauer]

I was driving out of our ranch yesterday and right where our road meets the highway is the railroad tracks. You see this train go by maybe once a week , three or 400 train car loads of coal because we have a coal fired plant down here at Coleto Creek, isn't that nice , three or 400 railway cars full of coal for a city of 70,000 , and we wonder why the temperature is 134 in China and 105° each day here in Victoria Texas and we're dumping 40,000,000,000 tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere each year and basically no abatement in sight . isn't this wonderful ? just wonderful beyond belief. a civilization that can't give up fossil fuels reminds me of a prospector in the desert, and he finds 100 pounds of gold which he
puts in his backpack and then that hundred pounds of gold kills him because he can't get back to civilization with it and dies of thirst. Isn't that wonderful? have a nice day and eat more pecans.

[Don Stockbauer]

Well, maybe not 134 F , but pretty darn hot anyway.

I got up this morning and there was a gecko in the house. This one was really weak, but I tried save it. I took it and put a little drop of water in front of its nose, but it was too weak to even drink. I had to watch it die over the next five minutes . I bet that's the same with a lot of systems , they get so far gone there's no saving them, even by the inhabitant's best efforts.

[Don Stockbauer]

I remember a story about Buzz
Aldrin. He was at a public gathering. Some guy keeps yelling "The moon landing wasn't real. It wasn't real."
Buzz replied "Well, it sure seemed real to me."

[Don Stockbauer]

I had to have a CAT scan done for an infected ear so I'm sitting there in front of the lady and she hands me about 20 pages of fine print to sign. Of course I couldn't read it all. the next day vinyl siding installers pulled up to my house.

[Don Stockbauer]

It's 73 degrees F in Victoria ,Texas at dawn .
106°F at 4 PM.
Get your work done early in the morning, my father used to say .
Donn, up at 5 AM and grub your Huisaches, it Hass to be done.
I'd tell him I I'd rather just be hot.
I have a good heat tolerance.

[Don Stockbauer]

So it seems to me the big problem is how are you going to get all of these various systems for either removing or keeping carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere to form a metasystem transition for sure . something to be worked on, no?

[Don Stockbauer]

The main way we humans deal with one another is to ignore one another.

[Don Stockbauer]

I had a date with a pretty ballerina.
Her hair was so brilliant that it hurt my eyes.
I asked her for this dance , she said she'd oblige me.
Was I surprised, yes.
Was I surprised, no, not at all.

So according to Douglas Hofstadter I now believe anything and everything.

[Don Stockbauer]

At Indian lake you'll be able to mate the way the Indians do .

well, point one , you're not supposed to call them Indians anymore , and point two, don't you feel ashamed stealing their secret mating rituals?

[Don Stockbauer]

do systems connected by communication automatically form a metasystem?

[Don Stockbauer]

I had the strangest dream last night. I dreamed I was in a resort, and they served me some food, and it actually had a live lizard in with it, so I was trying to figure out what to do with it , the nearest actual natural terrain with real plants and such was way away, I didn't want the hotel staff to catch me with it so I went over to a planter box with nothing but plastic plants and let it go and then it tried to eat the plastic leaves.

[Don Stockbauer]

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from being sufficient.

[Don Stockbauer]

remember, the metasystem transition is very fast.

[Don Stockbauer]

Now there's revolution, but we don't know what we're fighting.

[Don Stockbauer]

I noticed that the Clements over there are bailing hay . the Clements have the ranch just past the Conti's. You can make quite a bit of money off those big bales. It's kind of funny, these ranch families around here really make no more effort than city people to get to know one another . I'll go 10 years without running across one of these neighbors. maybe it's just me.

[Don Stockbauer]

At the moment of ecstasy her wings flutter like windblown leaves.

[Don Stockbauer]

"Any civilization so stupid as to create nuclear weapons deserves to die by them."

– Alfred E Newman.

[Don Stockbauer]

Want to read about more insanity concerning nuclear warfare, go on over to Wikipedia and study up on "Dead Hand".

[Don Stockbauer]

hey, how about this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand


A Russian nuclear system supposedly actually in place now which , according to wiki, if we're pounding Russia with exploding Thermonuclear warheads and all of Russia's ICBMs are still in their silos, will detect the presence of our exploding warheads and fire the Russian ICBMs toward the United States, even with all the Russian command and control destroyed by our warheads. Sounds groovy, doesn't it?

George C Scott says "Gee, I wish we had one of them Dead Hands things"

[Don Stockbauer]

Einstein: God does not play dice with the Universe.

Hawking: God not only plays dice with the Universe, sometimes He throws the dice where they cannot be seen.

Somebody: If the dice cannot be seen you have to quit playing games, or at least games that involve dice. Remember, all conversations have the form of a game.

[Don Stockbauer]

What's old, wrinkly, and smells like ginger?'
Fred Astaire's face.

[Don Stockbauer]

people are too smart for their own damn good.

[Don Stockbauer]

Love means never having to say you're sorry.

Hit-and-run also means never having to say you're sorry.

[Don Stockbauer]

I notice the Conti's are shredding today. That must be in preparation for their next big hay crop.

[Don Stockbauer]

The last colony of great auks lived on Geirfuglasker (the "Great Auk Rock") off Iceland. This islet was a volcanic rock surrounded by cliffs that made it inaccessible to humans, but in 1830, the islet submerged after a volcanic eruption, and the birds moved to the nearby island of Eldey, which was accessible from a single side. When the colony initially was discovered in 1835, nearly fifty birds were present. Museums, desiring the skins of the great auk for preservation and display, quickly began collecting birds from the colony.[21]: 43  The last pair, found incubating an egg, was killed there on 3 June 1844, on request from a merchant who wanted specimens, with Jón Brandsson and Sigurður Ísleifsson strangling the adults and Ketill Ketilsson smashing the egg with his boot.

[Don Stockbauer]

The Scala and Kolacny brothers staged a recital of the Divinyls "I touch myself" using about 30 16 year old girls. I wonder if these girls realized the song was about female masturbation.

[Don Stockbauer]

Does the Israel-Hamas war have any good points? Well , certainly there's more communication in the world after the war started , and more communication makes for a stronger Global Brain.

[Don Stockbauer]

Of course, World War III would also have this effect. There would be a huge rise in communications for about an hour, and then all communications would go dead , killing the Global Brain. So it would achieve its peak and minimum very close together:

[Don Stockbauer]

do you think that if we had a World War III that civilization could recover enough to have a world war four?

[Don Stockbauer]

the annular eclipse tried it from Raisin, Texas
couldn't get any data but at least saw it naked eye
a lot better than my last eclipse near Mazatlan Mexico around 1990. all I saw was it got dark couldn't even see the sun.

[Don Stockbauer]

What's the next thing you know?

Old Jed's a millionaire.

[Don Stockbauer]

I didn't mention that the reason the eclipse was not visible at Raisin, TX was because of clouds they were so you could see the basic eclipse naked eye, but the clouds prevented any data taking

[Don Stockbauer]

There was one really sick news story , this mother and her five-year-old daughter were living in an apartment and they were robbed and mother was killed. The daughter knew enough to dial 911. She's talking to the 911 operator and said "I think mommy is dead. She's not moving . I think that means that she's dead. "

[Don Stockbauer]

Maybe Christ rising from the dead really means all the living people that come after him carrying on his good works.

[Don Stockbauer]

War is just a bad habit.

[Don Stockbauer]

I just finished watching a YouTube on Grant Wood's painting American Gothic. The narrator kept emphasizing what a horrible time it was for America , the 30s depression . I remember my father telling me they didn't even know that a depression was on , they had always been dirt poor and they just continued to eat food from the farm.

[Don Stockbauer]

if we destroy ourselves by nuclear war or runaway greenhouse heating, the galaxy won't care at all about us .
you can draw an analogy between the galaxy and a 1 million person populated city. What if one homeless person dies in the city ? it doesn't care one little bit . it's the same with our galaxy, if the earth is reduced to a barren scarred rock the galaxy won't care , it's got 99,999,999,999 other stars and even more planets still OK . so what?

[Don Stockbauer]

This war may be making the Global Brain increase because of the overall total communication on Earth being larger than before the war and communication forms the Global Brain, but you can't go too far with that. At some point the larger the war the more it starts destructing global communications facilities, and you're diminishing the global brain.

It's like this ridiculous term they throw around now "disrupting", meaning (I think ) to keep things stirred up and growing . Too little disruption and you don't change anything ; too much disruption and you have a planet that's on fire.

[Don Stockbauer]

- [ ] I saw on Wiki in the write up of 9/11 that the terrorist planners at one point thought about targeting nuclear power plants , but their consensus was that "It might just get out of hand. " I don't know if that's still there ; I'm getting disappointed with remembering quotes from wiki, and then you go and look and they're gone.

[Don Stockbauer]

an example is in wiki's write up on the assassination of President Kennedy several years ago, they stated that the Secret Service strong armed Kennedys body away from the Dallas coroner at gunpoint ; now if you read it, it says that there was a scuffle between the Kennedys and the coroner's office , just a little different.

[Don Stockbauer]

I guess the second coming is a better scenario than rising from the dead.

[Don Stockbauer]

It bears repeating that the more people that know about the Global Brain, the stronger it becomes because the effect is self-awareness; more self-aware a system is the more intelligent it is , just as a human has much more
self-awareness than a chimpanzee and it's much more intelligent due to that.

[Don Stockbauer]

I consider any interaction I have with people to be successful as long as I don't curse at them.

[Don Stockbauer]

another one to repeat, would be the rising tide raises all boats, which explains why we're jaded, and we could be in the most fantastic civilization known to the universe, and we would still bitch about it, but myself and others have covered that before