-[I]- Lost threads and messages
Lesley Weston
Anyway, on Sunday, I had to close it in the middle of reading afp and in
particular Nigel's post with the link to his essay about Dylan Thomas,
which I had carefully marked (the post) as unread so that I could read
it later. When I reopened Thunderbird, Nigel's post had disappeared, and
now I keep seeing replies to messages that I hadn't seen, so presumably
they disappeared too.
So Nigel, could you very kindly re-post that link? The first paragraph
of the essay looked interesting and I would like to read the rest. And
everybody, if there is a post that I should have replied to and didn't,
it could be because of the above; if it seems worth the bother, perhaps
you could re-post?
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Lesley Weston
The addy above is real, but I won't see anything posted to it for a long
time. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca, adjusting as necessary.
Nigel Stapley
> Thunderbird is behaving badly, or possibly I have done something stupid.
> Anyway, on Sunday, I had to close it in the middle of reading afp and in
> particular Nigel's post with the link to his essay about Dylan Thomas,
> which I had carefully marked (the post) as unread so that I could read
> it later. When I reopened Thunderbird, Nigel's post had disappeared, and
> now I keep seeing replies to messages that I hadn't seen, so presumably
> they disappeared too.
>
> So Nigel, could you very kindly re-post that link? The first
> paragraph of the essay looked interesting and I would like to read the
> rest. And everybody, if there is a post that I should have replied to
> and didn't, it could be because of the above; if it seems worth the
> bother, perhaps you could re-post?
>
Could be your newsfeed's server has reset. One of the Microsoft
newsgroups suffered a similar problem yesterday. Or that closing Tbird
did something to the read items count.
The blog link was
http://www.thejudge.me.uk/Rants/Rants_archive_03.htm#12_11_03
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Regards
Nigel Stapley
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Lesley Weston
Merthyr at around the same time as Thomas. Her father didn't learn
English until he went to school and her mother was bilingual too, yet
she (my mother) hardly spoke a word of Welsh. She didn't hate her
heritage, far from it, she just didn't want to learn a language that
didn't seem important during her childhood and her parents didn't see to
it for her; she regretted it later, and so do I.
I still feel strongly in favour of Under Milk Wood and some of Dylan
Thomas' other work. I don't see it as quaint at all, just as beautiful
language, and in the BBC production beautifully delivered. Do you really
not see dogs in the "nose-wet yard" or pigs in the "pig-loving sun" as
worthwhile? And how can you resit the heartbreak of "What's the smell of
parsley?"
I also like that Welsh poem written some time ago in Welsh, since that
was the poet's only language, that translates roughly as something like:
"I wasn't feeling too good when I woke up this morning, but then I
killed some Saxons and now I feel just fine".
Nigel Stapley
> Nigel Stapley wrote:
>> Lesley Weston wrote:
>>> Thunderbird is behaving badly, or possibly I have done something
>>> stupid. Anyway, on Sunday, I had to close it in the middle of reading
>>> afp and in particular Nigel's post with the link to his essay about
>>> Dylan Thomas, which I had carefully marked (the post) as unread so
>>> that I could read it later. When I reopened Thunderbird, Nigel's post
>>> had disappeared, and now I keep seeing replies to messages that I
>>> hadn't seen, so presumably they disappeared too.
>>>
>>> So Nigel, could you very kindly re-post that link? The first
>>> paragraph of the essay looked interesting and I would like to read
>>> the rest. And everybody, if there is a post that I should have
>>> replied to and didn't, it could be because of the above; if it seems
>>> worth the bother, perhaps you could re-post?
>>>
>>
>> Could be your newsfeed's server has reset. One of the Microsoft
>> newsgroups suffered a similar problem yesterday. Or that closing Tbird
>> did something to the read items count.
>>
>> The blog link was
>> http://www.thejudge.me.uk/Rants/Rants_archive_03.htm#12_11_03
>>
> Thank you! As I thought, it is interesting.
Thank 'ew.
> My mother was born in
> Merthyr at around the same time as Thomas. Her father didn't learn
> English until he went to school and her mother was bilingual too, yet
> she (my mother) hardly spoke a word of Welsh. She didn't hate her
> heritage, far from it, she just didn't want to learn a language that
> didn't seem important during her childhood and her parents didn't see to
> it for her; she regretted it later, and so do I.
My mother's father had the language. He didn't pass it on to any of his
children (i.e. the five of the ten who survived to adulthood), and I
think he subsequently regretted it even if they didn't (this last I only
knew from my mother's opinion, as Taid died when I was about 18 months
old, but she always said that he would have been proud of my learning
the language).
>
> I still feel strongly in favour of Under Milk Wood and some of Dylan
> Thomas' other work. I don't see it as quaint at all, just as beautiful
> language, and in the BBC production beautifully delivered. Do you really
> not see dogs in the "nose-wet yard" or pigs in the "pig-loving sun" as
> worthwhile? And how can you resit the heartbreak of "What's the smell of
> parsley?"
There's such a thing as trying too hard for an effect, I think. Like
Dickens' names. Also, I find Thomas' own voice ridiculous. It gives the
word 'orotund' a bad name.
However, YMMV, de gustibus non disputandem est, and it's quicker by
Tube. :-)
>
> I also like that Welsh poem written some time ago in Welsh, since
> that was the poet's only language, that translates roughly as something
> like: "I wasn't feeling too good when I woke up this morning, but then I
> killed some Saxons and now I feel just fine".
>
Could have been written any time from about 590AD to last Friday.
BTW, could I interest you in an essay about a *truly* talented Welshman?
http://www.transdiffusion.org/emc/tvheroes/ryan_davies.php
Lesley Weston
> Lesley Weston wrote:
<Dylan Thomas>
> There's such a thing as trying too hard for an effect, I think. Like
> Dickens' names. Also, I find Thomas' own voice ridiculous. It gives the
> word 'orotund' a bad name.
I agree. The original New York recording of UMW with him as First Voice
and a bunch of American actors trying to do Welsh accents is
embarrassing, but I love the BBC version with Richard Burton and a Welsh
cast.
>
> However, YMMV, de gustibus non disputandem est, and it's quicker by
> Tube. :-)
Not in Vancouver it isn't.
>
>>
>> I also like that Welsh poem written some time ago in Welsh, since
>> that was the poet's only language, that translates roughly as
>> something like: "I wasn't feeling too good when I woke up this
>> morning, but then I killed some Saxons and now I feel just fine".
>>
>
> Could have been written any time from about 590AD to last Friday.
>
> BTW, could I interest you in an essay about a *truly* talented Welshman?
>
> http://www.transdiffusion.org/emc/tvheroes/ryan_davies.php
Also interesting. I seem to have missed him altogether, possibly because
we left the UK in 1974. I don't see how he could have replaced Bill
Owens, though, unless he could do Yorkshire.
Nigel Stapley
> Nigel Stapley wrote:
>> BTW, could I interest you in an essay about a *truly* talented Welshman?
>>
>> http://www.transdiffusion.org/emc/tvheroes/ryan_davies.php
>
> Also interesting. I seem to have missed him altogether, possibly because
> we left the UK in 1974. I don't see how he could have replaced Bill
> Owens, though, unless he could do Yorkshire.
>
Yes, I'm very sceptical about that rumour.
Ryan And Ronnie did two or three series in English which were networked.
At least one of them must have been shown before you left, because the
partnership itself broke up the following year.
Lesley Weston
> Lesley Weston wrote:
>> Nigel Stapley wrote:
>
>>> BTW, could I interest you in an essay about a *truly* talented Welshman?
>>>
>>> http://www.transdiffusion.org/emc/tvheroes/ryan_davies.php
>>
>> Also interesting. I seem to have missed him altogether, possibly
>> because we left the UK in 1974. I don't see how he could have replaced
>> Bill Owens, though, unless he could do Yorkshire.
>>
>
> Yes, I'm very sceptical about that rumour.
>
> Ryan And Ronnie did two or three series in English which were networked.
> At least one of them must have been shown before you left, because the
> partnership itself broke up the following year.
>
Esra Sdrawkcab
> Nigel Stapley wrote:
>> Lesley Weston wrote:
>>> Nigel Stapley wrote:
>>
>>>> BTW, could I interest you in an essay about a *truly* talented
>>>> Welshman?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.transdiffusion.org/emc/tvheroes/ryan_davies.php
>>>
>>> Also interesting. I seem to have missed him altogether, possibly
>>> because we left the UK in 1974. I don't see how he could have
>>> replaced Bill Owens, though, unless he could do Yorkshire.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I'm very sceptical about that rumour.
>>
>> Ryan And Ronnie did two or three series in English which were
>> networked. At least one of them must have been shown before you left,
>> because the partnership itself broke up the following year.
>>
> Then it's a great shame that we missed them.
>