[I] Among the Wossnames
Jon
traveler, explorer and liar;
After leavynge the countrie of the Anthropophagi, and the men whofe
heads do grow beneath their shoulders, we came upon another countrie,
which is inhabited by a people, very numerous, who call themfelves
Wossnames (though as is common among thefe folk, some difagree, and ufe
other names). This People are divided into many tribes, and delight to
difpute among themfelves, tribe by tribe or even within one tribe. They
live in a fair lande, about a body of Water they calle 'The Ponde', and
exceeding diverfe are their kinds.
The most numerous Tribe, in so far as I coulde tell, are the
/Swedebedeborgs/, who live in a Mountainous countrie on the right-hande
side of the Ponde. They are notable for swordfmanfhip, pine furniture,
and meatballes. This People is greatly feared by all other Kindes of the
Wossnames for their National Epic, the /Talevalevala/, the which is
recited by relays of Bards (or /Skalds/), oft fortified by Spirits and
other Liquors, and is said to have no Ende, whifst the beginnings are
Loft in the Mifts of Legend. So obfcure are the meanings of this Saga
that a whole Class or Clan of folke have grown up employed merely to
explicate the abftrufe kennings employed.
Oft founde in the company of the Swedebedeborgs are the clan of the
/Cheannedeachedelhissi/, who live by a Lake said by some to be haunted
by a Fearfome Monfter, and by others to be a Righte Loade of Olde
Bollockes. This people are notable for poesy, but not, alas, for
spellinge.
Another people I did not myfelf see, but have heard tell of, are the
/Grey Hames/. I mifdoubt that much of what I was told concerning thefe
was Fantastical, but it is certain that they dress from head to foot in
Leather, and keep Serfs in Bondage. Other tribes value them for their
leatherwork, which may be had for very reafonable Prices, I am told.
By the shores of the Ponde, in very low-lying and marfhy environs, live
the /Cloggenses/. This moft interefting People have many strange Rites
and Ceremonies. They are famed for riding about on small two-wheeled
Cartes, and it is it seems a Rite of Passage for the young to hurl thefe
into Canals to celebrate their comynge of Age. They are a Kindly people,
but their Cheefe is a national difgrace.
Concerning the /Merkinantes/, my lady /Gloagtrotter/ saith that while
their name is juftly feared in many quarters, thofe that inhabit the
countrie of the Wossnames are for the moft part friendly folk, and
well-loved by others of that Lande. Their strange cuftoms are many, but
it is said that on high holidays great difplays of Ferrets are held, to
the acclaim of all. Among their kinde are swordfwomen of great
puissance, and alfo thofe skilled in the art of playinge the Virginals.
Trolls are often found in these regions, but are hunted down mercilessly
and beheaded by the swordfwomen. The /Canadadadians/ are in most
refpects similar to the Merkinantes, but wax moft diftressed if this is
bruited about abroade.
Other Tribes of which I have heard include the /Tolerable Frogges/, who
live on naught but Wine, and travel in Balloones, the /Jammers/, skilled
at playing musical inftruments, who eat only Toasted Breade, the
/Convictienses/ who live at a great remove from all the other tribes,
and know nothing of Real Beer, and many another I have but heard Rumour
of such as the Geekes, the Sys-apes, the Wandering Singers, and diverfe
others.
/Hedgehogges/ are held in great efteem throughout the countrie, and it
is an offence to try and bother them at all. Alle peoples enjoy the
eatinge of /Chocoatl/, and trie ceaselessly to think of new things to
coat with it. (Hence the common phrase among the People, 'I wille get my
Coate').
Of /Governmente/ there appears to be none, although some say there is a
Cabal that Rules Alle Peoples, moft denie this, and cry 'tinc' at thofe
who would uphold it. The Assemblie of the Wossnames is called the
/Hub-bubb/, and all greate matters are decided here. Eventuallie. It is
a mark of alle Wossnames that they chiefly delight in Difpute and
Debate, which they indulge in conftantly. Such Difputations are only
ended when a reading is taken from the Booke of Gideon, againft which
there can be no further arguement (except from thofe of the Cluelesse
Newbies, also known as the Ayoell; thefe however have short lives,
though some say they form Chrysalids, and then re-emerge as the
Cluefulle. I can say no more of this matter).
As to /Religion/, it is said that the Wossnames have both Manie and
None, and that this is becaufe of Quantum. Some Wossnames profess the
worshippe of Ignorance, and others are just ignorant, but in truth I saw
lytel that might with sooth be called Religion. There is general
reluctance to speak the name of the Evil One, and instead they refer to
him as 'Mr. Goddwynn'. Invocation of this dark spirit is generally taken
as evidence of a loste arguement.
I have heard rumour that especial reverence is given to a person oft
depicted wearing a Hatte, although his name might not be spoken from one
month's ende to the nexte. It is common for Wossnames to be familiar
with many bookes said to have beene written by this Hatte. Some have
greater knowledge than others, and these are called Pedantes. For
myfelf, I do not in truth know whether this Hatte be a Myth or no, but
it is said to me that he at whiles visits the countrie himfelf, and
difpenfes Sarcasm.
Having journied in this Countrie for some while, I at lengthe assured
myfelf that they had neither the Philofopher's Stone nor the Fountain of
Youth, so I sought passage thence, and travelled on to the Countrie of
the Llamedese, which the Wossnames assured me was both welcoming and of
a Pleafant Climate.
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Stacie Hanes
> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
> traveler, explorer and liar;
<snip most reluctant>
This and the nursery school post are, I believe, my favorite two posts since
I began afp.
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Peter
Jon
> Jon wrote:
>> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>> traveler, explorer and liar;
>
> <snip most reluctant>
>
> This and the nursery school post are, I believe, my favorite two
> posts since I began afp.
Aw, shucks, <drags foot in dirt shyly, blushing the while> thanks. I
just wanna make folks laugh til boogers run out their nose, y'know?
GuitarHuw
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Richard Bos
> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
> traveler, explorer and liar;
Sounds like the man would have been quite at home here...
Richard
Stacie Hanes
A very worthy ambition, IMO. It's been mine, too, for some time; very tricky
in the lit crit business. ;-)
CCA
(reluctant snip)
Most excellent! :-)
CCA:)
Alec Cawley
writes
>Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>traveler, explorer and liar;
I say! Well done that man. Give him a round of applause, you fellahs.
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Dom
Applause
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(I couldn't do a round of Applause, so a square will have to
suffice. ;-)
A jolly good post. Keep up the good work that afper :-)
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Daibhid Ceannaideach
Date: 28/05/04 14:21 GMT Daylight Time
> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>traveler, explorer and liar;
Brilliant. And I may be borrowing "Cheannedeachedelhissi" for self-parody
purposes at some point.
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Jon
> From: "Jon" RSGD90...@aol.com
> Date: 28/05/04 14:21 GMT Daylight Time
>
>> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>> traveler, explorer and liar;
>
> Brilliant. And I may be borrowing "Cheannedeachedelhissi" for
> self-parody purposes at some point.
Certainly, old bean. Going cheap, penny a letter.
Marco Villalta
> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
> traveler, explorer and liar;
Archived!
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And you're cuttin' your own throat, right?
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Rgemini
<thnip>
A wondrous tale, deeply appreciated. I now have a huge silly grin that won't
go away.
Thank you!
Rgemini, who shall remain sigless
Duke of URL
news:2hoshlF...@uni-berlin.de...
> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
> traveler, explorer and liar;
Button-covered Flat Object for Making Documents!
I shall also be sending you a bill for the ribcage-wrap - I laughed until
every one of my ribs hurt! Erm, what was your snailmail again?
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Jon
> Jon <RSGD90...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>> traveler, explorer and liar;
>
> Archived!
What, for future reference for the purposes of Swedebedeborgian revenge? I'd
quail, but I don't know how, so a mere cower will have to suffice.
And I did, amongst all the obvious gags, stick a few shall we say
annotatable references in there ... call it a bit of getting one's own back
... any takers?
Ssirienna
> traveler, explorer and liar;
>
Spot on!! Absolutely!
Have a well deserved glass of something suitable :-))
Ssirienna
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Torak
> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
> traveler, explorer and liar;
I have to print that out in a suitable arcane font on heavy,
parchment-esque paper. Great stuff!
Orjan Westin
> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
> traveler, explorer and liar;
Right, this is one for the best-of-afp (if it's still running. esmi?)
Orjan
Daibhid Ceannaideach
>From: "Jon" RSGD90...@aol.com
>Date: 28/05/04 22:33 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <2hppf2F...@uni-berlin.de>
>
>þus cwæð Marco Villalta;
Don't look at me. I'm far too busy sticking random lines from The Tale: Episode
Twenty-one and a Half into the http://lyrics.astraweb.com/ search engine, in
the hope one of them will turn out to be the pop ref Marco says we haven't
found...
grahamafforda...@hotmail.com
On Fri, 28 May 2004 14:21:12 +0100, "Jon" <RSGD90...@aol.com>
wrote:
> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>traveler, explorer and liar;
ROFLALALALALAL!!!!! :-)
Cheers,
Graham.
Marco Villalta
>žus cwęš Marco Villalta;
>> Jon <RSGD90...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>>> traveler, explorer and liar;
>>
>> Archived!
>
> What, for future reference for the purposes of Swedebedeborgian
> revenge? I'd quail, but I don't know how, so a mere cower will have
> to suffice.
No need... you could call it for future reference, if you like...
what I've done is protect it from deletion, so that it isn't lost
when the time comes to purge its contemporary posts... I want to
save it, savour it, take it out and read it in front of the
fireplace on a rainy day... it's certainly deserving
Lesley Weston
on 28/05/2004 6:21 AM:
<snip excellent stuff>
> and beheaded by the swordfwomen. The /Canadadadians/ are in most
> refpects similar to the Merkinantes, but wax moft diftressed if this is
> bruited about abroade.
But now you have bruited it about abroade - how could you? Anyway, everybody
knows that we're the *nice* ones.
<more excellent stuff>
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David Jensen
<2hoshlF...@uni-berlin.de>:
> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>traveler, explorer and liar;
Well done.
Maddeville? Any chance it has four lakes and a capitol between a couple
of them?
The Stainless Steel Cat
"Jon" <RSGD90...@aol.com> wrote:
> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>traveler, explorer and liar;
A related extract from the "Doings of the Royal Society."
(Lord Cat of Steelforth stands)
Mr Chairman! Are we to sit here and listen to this ridiculous fluff and
bafflegab?
The noble scientists, engineers, devicists and layabouts of this esteemed
Society can surely not be expected to believe that such a place as this
actually exists?
Why for sure, Professor Challenger would fall off his Lost Plateau laughing
at such an idea, were he not in fact in the ante-room protecting his trusty
hunting-stegosaur from an attack by a crocodile brought in by Sir Jon!
E'en my friend, Lord Greystoke here, cannot countenance such creatures as
these "Wossnames"!
(Greystoke vigourously agrees, by jumping up and down and shouting
"Eeee-eee! Ooook!")
Mr Chairman, I propose that Sir Jon be thrown from this chamber without
further ado!
...unless of course, he has any tales of those lands I have heard tell of,
where women wear hardly any petticoats at all, and do interesting things
with vegetables...?
Cat.
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Sanity
article <2hoshlF...@uni-berlin.de>:
> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
> traveler, explorer and liar;
You should have more free time and get out less ;-)
Brillant!
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Torak
> Jon wrote:
>
>>Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>>traveler, explorer and liar;
>
>
> This and the nursery school post are, I believe, my favorite two posts since
> I began afp.
I'd probably agree with that, though I didn't really read the nursery
one very carefully...
Torak
>
> Aw, shucks, <drags foot in dirt shyly, blushing the while> thanks. I
> just wanna make folks laugh til boogers run out their nose, y'know?
Have a look at <http://www.andrew-perry.com/files/wossnames.pdf> and see
what you think. Hope you don't mind - if you want any modifications or
anything, let me know.
Irina Rempt
> Have a look at <http://www.andrew-perry.com/files/wossnames.pdf> and
> see what you think. Hope you don't mind - if you want any
> modifications or anything, let me know.
Erm, yes, I'd like a file there!
(I do like the suggestions for improving the spelling of the URL, but
all I did was click on the link)
Irina
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Torak
I've turned it into a PDF at <www.andrew-perry.com/files/wossname.pdf>
(if you approve, that is, I'll take it down if you mind). I can't figure
out how to change the background colour, but it'll look nice printed on
good paper.
Torak
> "Jon" <RSGD90...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Mr Chairman, I propose that Sir Jon be thrown from this chamber without
> further ado!
>
> where women wear hardly any petticoats at all, and do interesting things
> with vegetables...?
Sir, I volunteer to lead an expedition to this heathen land.
Irina Rempt
> I've turned it into a PDF at <www.andrew-perry.com/files/wossname.pdf>
Try <www.andrew-perry.com/files/wossnames.pdf>, 'cause that's where it
is :-)
Jon
> On Saturday 29 May 2004 14:11 Torak (and...@andrew-perry.com) wrote:
>
>> Have a look at <http://www.andrew-perry.com/files/wossnames.pdf> and
>> see what you think. Hope you don't mind - if you want any
>> modifications or anything, let me know.
>
> Erm, yes, I'd like a file there!
>
> (I do like the suggestions for improving the spelling of the URL, but
> all I did was click on the link)
There's a file there now, and I'm glad somebody replied to this, since I
don't seem to have Torak's original post! (and it isn't on Google yet).
Replying to Torak:
Well, I am both flattered and impressed by your effort, but, erm, this is
the Countrie of the Wossnames, and I will now engage in nit-picking and
difpute.
Only one nit, actually: the use of 'Ye' to mean 'The'; this is an
abomination caused by people not knowing Old English letters; it isn't a Y,
it's the capital of the OE letter 'eth', standing for voiced 'th'. The lower
case of eth may be seen at the very beginning of all my posts (the other OE
letter there is 'thorn', which is unvoiced 'th'.
OK, nitpick over; it's a just a bit of a hobby horse of mine. I shudder most
horribly every time I pass a Tea Shoppe (I'd shudder even more if I was daft
enough to go in and pay for something).
(Oh, and I don't suppose there's anyway of getting those f's replaced by the
real old-fashioned 'long' s, which is an f without the crossbar? I bet there
isn't an ASCII code for it ...)
Jon
Drat, that reminds me I had a gag worked out especially for Orjan, and
forgot to put it in ...
(Glad you and Marco liked it, btw)
Jon
> In article <2hoshlF...@uni-berlin.de>,
> "Jon" <RSGD90...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>> traveler, explorer and liar;
>
> A related extract from the "Doings of the Royal Society."
<snip>
> Mr Chairman, I propose that Sir Jon be thrown from this chamber
> without further ado!
>
> ...unless of course, he has any tales of those lands I have heard
> tell of, where women wear hardly any petticoats at all, and do
> interesting things with vegetables...?
Ah, you refer to the enigmatic tribe known as the Delias.
Jon
> Only one nit, actually: the use of 'Ye' to mean 'The';
Er, cancel that nit, as closer inspection reveals correct usage of capital
eth, and not as I had at first glance thought, a Y.
*cough*
Mine's the one marked 'short-sighted idiot', thank-you.
Daibhid Ceannaideach
Date: 29/05/04 14:21 GMT Daylight Time
>Replying to Torak:
>
>Well, I am both flattered and impressed by your effort, but, erm, this is
>the Countrie of the Wossnames, and I will now engage in nit-picking and
>difpute.
>
>Only one nit, actually: the use of 'Ye' to mean 'The';
Surely it's actually a grammatical error, and he means "All rights reserved,
ye. Layout done by Torak."
Alternatively, if you can use "f" to represent "long s", why not "y" to
represent "eth"? Although I think a "d" might actually be closer...
>(Oh, and I don't suppose there's anyway of getting those f's replaced by the
>real old-fashioned 'long' s, which is an f without the crossbar? I bet there
>isn't an ASCII code for it ...)
There's a font called "Old English Bookhand" that gives you "long s"... not to
mention thorn, eth, wynn, yogh and long r.
Jon
> From: "Jon" RSGD90...@aol.com
> Date: 29/05/04 14:21 GMT Daylight Time
>
>> Replying to Torak:
>>
>> Well, I am both flattered and impressed by your effort, but, erm,
>> this is the Countrie of the Wossnames, and I will now engage in
>> nit-picking and difpute.
>>
>> Only one nit, actually: the use of 'Ye' to mean 'The';
>
> Surely it's actually a grammatical error, and he means "All rights
> reserved, ye. Layout done by Torak."
Um, see my last, grovellingly apologetic post ...
>
> Alternatively, if you can use "f" to represent "long s", why not "y"
> to represent "eth"? Although I think a "d" might actually be closer...
>
>> (Oh, and I don't suppose there's anyway of getting those f's
>> replaced by the real old-fashioned 'long' s, which is an f without
>> the crossbar? I bet there isn't an ASCII code for it ...)
>
> There's a font called "Old English Bookhand" that gives you "long
> s"... not to mention thorn, eth, wynn, yogh and long r.
So there is. I say, that's rather good, isn't it? I can use that ...
Marco Villalta
> žus cwęš Orjan Westin;
>> Jon wrote:
>>
>>> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>>> traveler, explorer and liar;
>>
Seconded. I'd like to suggest it is also added to the other
perspectives in the "What is a.f.p?" section. It describes the
group oh so well.
> Drat, that reminds me I had a gag worked out especially for Orjan,
> and forgot to put it in ...
Do tell...
Daibhid Ceannaideach
>From: "Jon" RSGD90...@aol.com
>Date: 29/05/04 14:27 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <2hrhcnF...@uni-berlin.de>
>
>þus cwæð The Stainless Steel Cat;
"At the great ceremonie to bring on the Raine, the /Deila/ would provide
Sustenanse for the white-cladde Supplicants, for great Renown did she have in
the preperatione of Foodstuffs. Untill itte was discovered that she had decyved
them all, and gained these foodes from the /Merchant of Sparkes/, knowne
throughout that lande for his lighte meals and white undergarments..."
Jon
> Jon <RSGD90...@aol.com> wrote:
>> þus cwæð Orjan Westin;
>>> Jon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>>>> traveler, explorer and liar;
>>>
>>> Right, this is one for the best-of-afp.
>
> Seconded. I'd like to suggest it is also added to the other
> perspectives in the "What is a.f.p?" section. It describes the
> group oh so well.
>
>> Drat, that reminds me I had a gag worked out especially for Orjan,
>> and forgot to put it in ...
>
> Do tell...
"The Skalds refuse utterly to recite the Talevalevala in any language other
than their own, even though their skill with tongues is legendary".
Jon
>> From: "Jon" RSGD90...@aol.com
>> Date: 29/05/04 14:27 GMT Daylight Time
>> Message-id: <2hrhcnF...@uni-berlin.de>
>>
>>> In article <2hoshlF...@uni-berlin.de>,
>>> "Jon" <RSGD90...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>>>> traveler, explorer and liar;
>>>
>>> A related extract from the "Doings of the Royal Society."
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Mr Chairman, I propose that Sir Jon be thrown from this chamber
>>> without further ado!
>>>
>>> ...unless of course, he has any tales of those lands I have heard
>>> tell of, where women wear hardly any petticoats at all, and do
>>> interesting things with vegetables...?
>>
>> Ah, you refer to the enigmatic tribe known as the Delias.
>
> "At the great ceremonie to bring on the Raine, the /Deila/ would
> provide Sustenanse for the white-cladde Supplicants, for great Renown
> did she have in the preperatione of Foodstuffs. Untill itte was
> discovered that she had decyved them all, and gained these foodes
> from the /Merchant of Sparkes/, knowne throughout that lande for his
> lighte meals and white undergarments..."
Though, certes, hir Recipes and Suggestiones, in especial those concerned
with the preparation of /Fowle/, are notte without merit, defpite what
cavillers from /Ipswyche/ might say.
Axel Kielhorn
> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
> traveler, explorer and liar;
>
> After leavynge the countrie of the Anthropophagi, and the men whofe
> heads do grow beneath their shoulders, we came upon another countrie,
> which is inhabited by a people, very numerous, who call themfelves
> Wossnames (though as is common among thefe folk, some difagree, and ufe
> other names).
Great, now I'm looking for a font with a real f to print this.[1]
BTW, are these really Wossnames, or are they Woffnames?
[1] Does anyone know how to inftall a pfb font on MacOS X?
Axel
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isn't paying proper attention.
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Jon
> Jon <RSGD90...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>> traveler, explorer and liar;
>>
>> After leavynge the countrie of the Anthropophagi, and the men whofe
>> heads do grow beneath their shoulders, we came upon another countrie,
>> which is inhabited by a people, very numerous, who call themfelves
>> Wossnames (though as is common among thefe folk, some difagree, and
>> ufe other names).
>
> Great, now I'm looking for a font with a real f to print this.[1]
>
> BTW, are these really Wossnames, or are they Woffnames?
Wossnames they be. AFAIK the 'long' s wasn't used for double-s (or for
capitals, and I haven't used it for letters beginning or ending a word, but
that's just me).
Irina Rempt
> þus cwæð Axel Kielhorn;
>> BTW, are these really Wossnames, or are they Woffnames?
>
> Wossnames they be. AFAIK the 'long' s wasn't used for double-s (or for
> capitals, and I haven't used it for letters beginning or ending a
> word, but that's just me).
Wouldn't it be Wofsnames?
Irina
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Leo Breebaart
> >> Jon wrote:
> >>
> >>> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
> >>> traveler, explorer and liar;
> >>
> >> Right, this is one for the best-of-afp.
>
> Seconded. I'd like to suggest it is also added to the other
> perspectives in the "What is a.f.p?" section. It describes the
> group oh so well.
Best of afp, sure; but I don't think "what is afp?" is an
appropriate place. Jon's excellent piece serves as a recognisable
and funny description of afp mostly *to the people already here*,
who will get all the references and name puns and whatnot.
But I doubt if a random stranger would really feel that it helped
them understand afp better; although I can imagine they might
still find it funny, which is precisely why it would be entirely
well-suited to the best-of-afp section of L-Space. All you have
to do is submit it to esmi (es...@lspace.org) and see if she
agrees. :-)
<http://www.lspace.org/fandom/afp/what-is-afp/>
<http://www.lspace.org/fandom/afp/best-of-afp/>
--
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Jon
> Marco Villalta <marcos_b...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>>>> Jon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>>>>> traveler, explorer and liar;
>>>>
>>>> Right, this is one for the best-of-afp.
>>
>> Seconded. I'd like to suggest it is also added to the other
>> perspectives in the "What is a.f.p?" section. It describes the
>> group oh so well.
>
> Best of afp, sure; but I don't think "what is afp?" is an
> appropriate place. Jon's excellent piece serves as a recognisable
> and funny description of afp mostly *to the people already here*,
> who will get all the references and name puns and whatnot.
>
> But I doubt if a random stranger would really feel that it helped
> them understand afp better; although I can imagine they might
> still find it funny, which is precisely why it would be entirely
> well-suited to the best-of-afp section of L-Space.
I agree; anybody seeking information about afp would not be very enlightened
by it. In fact they'd probably run a mile ...
The Stainless Steel Cat
"Jon" <RSGD90...@aol.com> wrote:
>žus cwęš The Stainless Steel Cat;
>> Mr Chairman, I propose that Sir Jon be thrown from this chamber
>> without further ado!
>>
>> ...unless of course, he has any tales of those lands I have heard
>> tell of, where women wear hardly any petticoats at all, and do
>> interesting things with vegetables...?
>
>Ah, you refer to the enigmatic tribe known as the Delias.
<bows>
I do indeed. Known for their famous religious texts; "How To Recognise
Water" (as translated by Linda 'Complainability' Smith), and their fourteen
volume saga on boiling eggs, mistranslated by Sir Richard Burton as
something utterly mucky (but much more interesting!)
Dom
Yes, they have been known to work endlessly in front of hot fires
in order to shape the vegetables using the tools of their trade.
It is also said that if a man leaves his horse outside their door
one evening, that he will find a tasty pie in it's place the next
day[1] ;-)
[1] Disclaimer - to the best of my knowledge DS has never cooked
a horse.
--
Dom
afpSlave to CCA
Torak
> On Saturday 29 May 2004 14:11 Torak (and...@andrew-perry.com) wrote:
>
>>Have a look at <http://www.andrew-perry.com/files/wossnames.pdf> and
>>see what you think. Hope you don't mind - if you want any
>>modifications or anything, let me know.
>
> Erm, yes, I'd like a file there!
>
> (I do like the suggestions for improving the spelling of the URL, but
> all I did was click on the link)
There is a file there... I just tested, it works fine. Perhaps you
managed to click it in the thirty seconds between me posting the link
and uploading the file? ;-)
Torak
> On Saturday 29 May 2004 14:31 Torak (and...@andrew-perry.com) wrote:
>
>>I've turned it into a PDF at <www.andrew-perry.com/files/wossname.pdf>
>
> Try <www.andrew-perry.com/files/wossnames.pdf>, 'cause that's where it
> is :-)
Yes, that would probably be better. :-D
Lesley Weston
It's very nice and quite appropriate, but is there a font that lets you do
the "s"s rendered by Jon as "f"s in the kind of script that makes them look
like integral signs? Then it would look more authentic.
--
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actually read anything sent to it before I empty it. To reach me, use lesley
att vancouverbc dott nett, changing spelling and spacing as required.
CCA
[>http://www.andrew-perry.com/files/wossnames.pdf]
>There's a file there now
When I tried the link, there wasn't a file there. Will try again later.
CCA:)
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Marco Villalta
> Marco Villalta <marcos_b...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> I'd like to suggest it is also added to the other
>> perspectives in the "What is a.f.p?" section. It describes the
>> group oh so well.
>
> Best of afp, sure; but I don't think "what is afp?" is an
> appropriate place. Jon's excellent piece serves as a recognisable
> and funny description of afp mostly *to the people already here*,
> who will get all the references and name puns and whatnot.
>
> But I doubt if a random stranger would really feel that it helped
> them understand afp better;
True, but I wonder if you couldn't, to some degree, make the same
argument about Pia's biblical recap (which, by-the-by, is
absolutely fabulous), or even Gideon's comment. As it looks now,
the "What is a.f.p?" section consists of a detailed explanation
with added viewpoints. Among those viewpoints, Jon's piece
wouldn't look *entirely* out of place.
But, as you say, it's esmi who has the final word.
Torak
> şus cwæğ Irina Rempt;
>>On Saturday 29 May 2004 14:11 Torak (and...@andrew-perry.com) wrote:
>>
>>>Have a look at <http://www.andrew-perry.com/files/wossnames.pdf> and
>>>see what you think. Hope you don't mind - if you want any
>>>modifications or anything, let me know.
>>
>>Erm, yes, I'd like a file there!
>>
>>(I do like the suggestions for improving the spelling of the URL, but
>>all I did was click on the link)
>
> There's a file there now, and I'm glad somebody replied to this, since I
> don't seem to have Torak's original post! (and it isn't on Google yet).
>
> Replying to Torak:
>
> Well, I am both flattered and impressed by your effort, but, erm, this is
> the Countrie of the Wossnames, and I will now engage in nit-picking and
> difpute.
>
> Only one nit, actually: the use of 'Ye' to mean 'The'; this is an
> abomination caused by people not knowing Old English letters; it isn't a Y,
> it's the capital of the OE letter 'eth', standing for voiced 'th'. The lower
> case of eth may be seen at the very beginning of all my posts (the other OE
> letter there is 'thorn', which is unvoiced 'th'.
I know - Ş - I just put that in as a sort of micro-injoke. (Actually, to
be *really* honest, it's because I couldn't find a thorn in that font...)
> OK, nitpick over; it's a just a bit of a hobby horse of mine. I shudder most
> horribly every time I pass a Tea Shoppe (I'd shudder even more if I was daft
> enough to go in and pay for something).
Don't we all?
> (Oh, and I don't suppose there's anyway of getting those f's replaced by the
> real old-fashioned 'long' s, which is an f without the crossbar? I bet there
> isn't an ASCII code for it ...)
I did have a hunt around in the character set, but didn't find anything.
I'll try again in the morning when I have more time.
How did you like the rest of it? The copyright notice is OK by you?
Torak
> žus cwęš Marco Villalta;
Let's not bring the Frogs back into this...
Torak
> Jon <RSGD90...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the famous
>>traveler, explorer and liar;
>>
>>After leavynge the countrie of the Anthropophagi, and the men whofe
>>heads do grow beneath their shoulders, we came upon another countrie,
>>which is inhabited by a people, very numerous, who call themfelves
>>Wossnames (though as is common among thefe folk, some difagree, and ufe
>>other names).
>
>
> Great, now I'm looking for a font with a real f to print this.[1]
Well, have a looke at <www.andrew-perry.com/files/wossnames.pdf> as
mentioned here and there.... ;-)
Torak
>
> But I doubt if a random stranger would really feel that it helped
> them understand afp better; although I can imagine they might
> still find it funny, which is precisely why it would be entirely
> well-suited to the best-of-afp section of L-Space. All you have
> to do is submit it to esmi (es...@lspace.org) and see if she
> agrees. :-)
Yes, submit the PDF! Go on!
Jon
<snippaş and hidaş>
> How did you like the rest of it? The copyright notice is OK by you?
'Tis very agreeable, thank-you. I extend my most cordial contrafibularities
to you.
Torak
>>(if you approve, that is, I'll take it down if you mind). I can't figure
>>out how to change the background colour, but it'll look nice printed on
>>good paper.
>
> It's very nice and quite appropriate, but is there a font that lets you do
> the "s"s rendered by Jon as "f"s in the kind of script that makes them look
> like integral signs? Then it would look more authentic.
I couldn't find one at the time, but I'm going to have a hunt around.
Matt
> Jon wrote:
>
>> (Oh, and I don't suppose there's anyway of getting those f's replaced
>> by the real old-fashioned 'long' s, which is an f without the crossbar?
>> I bet there isn't an ASCII code for it ...)
>
> I did have a hunt around in the character set, but didn't find anything.
> I'll try again in the morning when I have more time.
I'm not sure which of these it should be:
017f Latin Small Letter Long S ſ
0283 Latin Small Letter esh ʃ
Your decorative font probably doesn't have these...
--
Matt
CCA
>A related extract from the "Doings of the Royal Society."
[Reluctant snip]
Excellent stuff :-)
>...unless of course, he has any tales of those lands I have heard tell of,
>where women wear hardly any petticoats at all, and do interesting things
>with vegetables...?
Lady CC of A clears throat politely and asks...
"What do the men wear? Just out of interest, you know..."
;-)
CCA
>The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:
>> "Jon" wrote:
>> Mr Chairman, I propose that Sir Jon be thrown from this chamber without
>> further ado!
>> ....unless of course, he has any tales of those lands I have heard tell of,
>> where women wear hardly any petticoats at all, and do interesting things
>> with vegetables...?
>
>Sir, I volunteer to lead an expedition to this heathen land.
>
I second that. Purely in the interests of research, of course...
Matthew Seaman
> The Stainless Steel Cat wrote
>
> >A related extract from the "Doings of the Royal Society."
>
> [Reluctant snip]
>
> Excellent stuff :-)
>
> >...unless of course, he has any tales of those lands I have heard tell of,
> >where women wear hardly any petticoats at all, and do interesting things
> >with vegetables...?
>
> Lady CC of A clears throat politely and asks...
> "What do the men wear? Just out of interest, you know..."
> ;-)
Rubber.
After all, someone has to pull on the Marigolds and do the washing up...
Cheers,
Matthew
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In that utility, you'll find *every* character of every font you've
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Duke of URL
news:868yfa1...@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk...
> sphir...@aol.com (CCA) writes:
> > The Stainless Steel Cat wrote
> >
> > >A related extract from the "Doings of the Royal Society."
> > [Reluctant snip]
> > Excellent stuff :-)
> >
> > >...unless of course, he has any tales of those lands I have heard tell
of,
> > >where women wear hardly any petticoats at all, and do interesting
things
> > >with vegetables...?
> >
> > Lady CC of A clears throat politely and asks...
> > "What do the men wear? Just out of interest, you know..."
>
> Rubber.
> After all, someone has to pull on the Marigolds and do the washing up...
Er, pull on Marigold's /what/?
Richard Bos
> Torak wrote:
>
> > Jon wrote:
> >
> >> (Oh, and I don't suppose there's anyway of getting those f's replaced
> >> by the real old-fashioned 'long' s, which is an f without the crossbar?
> >> I bet there isn't an ASCII code for it ...)
> >
> > I did have a hunt around in the character set, but didn't find anything.
> > I'll try again in the morning when I have more time.
>
> I'm not sure which of these it should be:
>
> 017f Latin Small Letter Long S ſ
> 0283 Latin Small Letter esh ʃ
The former. An esh is something else entirely, a letter for the sh
sound. I don't know if there is any language which uses it, but it's in
the IPA. The long s is a typographical variation on the normal s.
Richard
Alec Cawley
<MacB...@kdsi.net> writes
>"Matthew Seaman" <m.se...@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:868yfa1...@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk...
>> sphir...@aol.com (CCA) writes:
>> > The Stainless Steel Cat wrote
>> >
>> > >A related extract from the "Doings of the Royal Society."
>> > "What do the men wear? Just out of interest, you know..."
>>
>> Rubber.
>> After all, someone has to pull on the Marigolds and do the washing up...
>
>
>Er, pull on Marigold's /what/?
Uk-ian reference. *The* Marigolds. The leading brand of rubber
washing-up gloves, usually pale yellow.
--
@lec Šawley
Duke of URL
news:UQjsi6Vu...@cawley.demon.co.uk...
Dang! I thinked we wuz gonna get another *creative*-sex sub-thread...
Duke of URL
news:40ba0750...@news.individual.net...
Would that be like the Hebrew "shin"?
Alec Cawley
>"Alec Cawley" <al...@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:UQjsi6Vu...@cawley.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <10bjt4b...@corp.supernews.com>, Duke of URL
>> <MacB...@kdsi.net> writes
>> >"Matthew Seaman" <m.se...@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:868yfa1...@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk...
>> >> sphir...@aol.com (CCA) writes:
>> >> > The Stainless Steel Cat wrote
>> >> >
>> >> > >A related extract from the "Doings of the Royal Society."
>> >> > Lady CC of A clears throat politely and asks...
>> >> > "What do the men wear? Just out of interest, you know..."
>> >>
>> >> Rubber.
>> >> After all, someone has to pull on the Marigolds and do the washing
>up...
>> >
>> >Er, pull on Marigold's /what/?
>>
>> Uk-ian reference. *The* Marigolds. The leading brand of rubber
>> washing-up gloves, usually pale yellow.
>
>
>Dang! I thinked we wuz gonna get another *creative*-sex sub-thread...
I do recall hearing about men who enjoy doing the housework dressed in
Marigolds, an apron and nothing else, while the bitch-wife in tight
fitting black leather everything harangues him to work harder and
criticises his dusting.
Whatever floats your boat.
--
@lec Šawley
Jon
> In message <10bk9su...@corp.supernews.com>, Duke of URL
> <MacB...@kdsi.net> writes
>> "Alec Cawley" <al...@spamspam.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:UQjsi6Vu...@cawley.demon.co.uk...
>>> In message <10bjt4b...@corp.supernews.com>, Duke of URL
>>> <MacB...@kdsi.net> writes
>>>> "Matthew Seaman" <m.se...@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:868yfa1...@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk...
>>>>> sphir...@aol.com (CCA) writes:
>>>>>> The Stainless Steel Cat wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A related extract from the "Doings of the Royal Society."
>>>>>> Lady CC of A clears throat politely and asks...
>>>>>> "What do the men wear? Just out of interest, you know..."
>>>>>
>>>>> Rubber.
>>>>> After all, someone has to pull on the Marigolds and do the
>>>>> washing up...
>>>>
>>>> Er, pull on Marigold's /what/?
>>>
>>> Uk-ian reference. *The* Marigolds. The leading brand of rubber
>>> washing-up gloves, usually pale yellow.
>>
>>
>> Dang! I thinked we wuz gonna get another *creative*-sex sub-thread...
>
> I do recall hearing about men who enjoy doing the housework
Eugh, that is <i>unnatural</i>!
Marco Villalta
> Jon wrote:
>> þus cwæð Marco Villalta;
No, I think it's a reference to _Från Allt Till Inget_...
Richard Bos
Well, I'm hardly an expert on Hebrew (or, indeed, on phonetics), but
from what little I know of it, yes, it would. Except of course that shin
is not written with an esh, but with a shin. An esh looks like an
integral sign.
Richard
esmi
wrote
> Jon <RSGD90...@aol.com> wrote:
>> žus cwęš Orjan Westin;
>>> Jon wrote:
>>>> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the
>>>> famous traveler, explorer and liar;
>>> Right, this is one for the best-of-afp.
>Seconded. I'd like to suggest it is also added to the other
>perspectives in the "What is a.f.p?" section. It describes
>the group oh so well.
Oh - that's a good idea. I've been looking for other possible
aditions for that section. It also gets me out of the rather
awkward situation where Jon already has a post (AFP Nursery) in
Best Of AFP and I've limited the number of BOA posts to one-per-
poster.
esmi
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esmi
wrote
>Jon wrote:
>> Extract from the /Traveles/ of Sir Jon de Maddeville, the
>> famous traveler, explorer and liar;
>
>Right, this is one for the best-of-afp (if it's still running.
>esmi?)
It is.
Darin Johnson
> > I do recall hearing about men who enjoy doing the housework
>
> Eugh, that is <i>unnatural</i>!
They've got all sorts of interesting medicines for the minds nowdays.
I've been meaning to ask the doctor if he's got a pill to make me
obsessive-compulsive for a few weeks, until my house is cleaned up[1].
--
Darin Johnson
My shoes are too tight, and I have forgotten how to dance -- Babylon 5
[1] my current attitude is more along the lines of "I'll just leave
that lying there, it'll slow down the burglars."
Kegs
> "Jon" <RSGD90...@aol.com> writes:
>
>> > I do recall hearing about men who enjoy doing the housework
>>
>> Eugh, that is <i>unnatural</i>!
>
> They've got all sorts of interesting medicines for the minds nowdays.
> I've been meaning to ask the doctor if he's got a pill to make me
> obsessive-compulsive for a few weeks, until my house is cleaned up[1].
well speed works for a little while, but its slightly illegal, and messes
you up in other ways, but you *do* get the housework done in record time ;)
--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk
"...And so it begins." (Amb. Kosh, B5 "Chrysalis")
grahamafforda...@hotmail.com
On Sat, 29 May 2004 16:58:26 +0100, "Jon" <RSGD90...@aol.com>
wrote:
>> BTW, are these really Wossnames, or are they Woffnames?
>
>Wossnames they be. AFAIK the 'long' s wasn't used for double-s
It certainly was in Germany because if you combine the two (ie "fs")
you get something that looks a bit like a Greek "Beta" character which
can be seen in street names as "StraBe" (pronounced "Strasse")
Cheers,
Graham.
Jenny Radcliffe
> Darin Johnson <darin_@_usa_._net> writes:
> > "Jon" <RSGD90...@aol.com> writes:
> > > > I do recall hearing about men who enjoy doing the housework
> > > Eugh, that is <i>unnatural</i>!
> > They've got all sorts of interesting medicines for the minds nowdays.
> > I've been meaning to ask the doctor if he's got a pill to make me
> > obsessive-compulsive for a few weeks, until my house is cleaned up
> > [1].
> well speed works for a little while, but its slightly illegal, and
> messes you up in other ways, but you *do* get the housework done in
> record time ;)
I've got a friend who washes up obsessively when drunk.
Having a dinner party? Make sure you invite Nutter[1] and have plenty of
tea-towels ready. And beer to start with.
Jenny
[1] That's David "We Call Him Nutter Because It's His Name" Nutter. If you
say anything about "by name, by nature", he'll prove it.
Darin Johnson
> well speed works for a little while, but its slightly illegal, and messes
> you up in other ways, but you *do* get the housework done in record time ;)
The time isn't the problem for me, it's the lack of desire to do it...
--
Darin Johnson
Where am I? In the village... What do you want? Information...
esmi
>Yes, submit the PDF! Go on!
PDFs? Over my dead body!
esmi
>> Marco Villalta <marcos_b...@hotmail.com> writes:
>>> I'd like to suggest it is also added to the other
>>> perspectives in the "What is a.f.p?" section. It describes
>>> the group oh so well.
>> Best of afp, sure; but I don't think "what is afp?" is an
>> appropriate place. Jon's excellent piece serves as a
>> recognisable and funny description of afp mostly *to the
>> people already here*, who will get all the references and
>> name puns and whatnot.
Agreed but 'What Is AFP' is also about getting a flavour of the
group, IMO and this sort of literary punning (for want of a better
term) is very intrinsic to the group's nature.
I'm also, currently, strongly against having more than one post
from any one poster on Best Of AFP. I appreciate that this might
seem somewhat hardline of me but I'm anxious to avoid any
implication of singling out any particular 'posting cliques' -
good or bad. That's the main reason why the old Guild of Scribes
and Posters was abandoned in favour of the "Best Of" section. If
anyone feels that this is somewhat draconic or otherwise
constraining, please feel free to argue the point with me. All
(clean) comments gratefully accepted.
>> But I doubt if a random stranger would really feel that it
>> helped them understand afp better;
No one article in the section could do that. That's the reason why
I would dearly love to acrue more 'viewpoints'. Each adds a
different slant, perspective or feeling to the extent that if our
random stranger read all of them, they would, at the very least,
understand how diverse the group, its posters and its posts are.
If I manage to achieve only that, I'll be happy.
>True, but I wonder if you couldn't, to some degree, make the
>same argument about Pia's biblical recap (which, by-the-by, is
>absolutely fabulous),
That's the article that immediately sprang to my mind also. And,
FWIW, that article was submitted by direct invitation along with
Colette's update. Which only reaffirms the point, IMO, that the
varying modes of writing are part and parcel of what afp is about.
>or even Gideon's comment.
IIRC, that was the only other article that was actually posted in
the group. I asked Gideon if I could include it as it seemed to me
to encapsulate many of my own thoughts.
>As it looks
>now, the "What is a.f.p?" section consists of a detailed
>explanation with added viewpoints. Among those viewpoints,
>Jon's piece wouldn't look *entirely* out of place.
>But, as you say, it's esmi who has the final word.
Oh good. In which case, I have.:-)
Matt
> On 30 May 2004, Torak <and...@andrew-perry.com> wrote
>
>> Yes, submit the PDF! Go on!
>
> PDFs? Over my dead body!
I dare you to take a screenshot and submit that ;-)
I'm sure the combined efforts of whoever could make a CSS+XHTML version.
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the following
And to think they used to have the letter in the font I'm using right
now (es-tset, is it?)
Probably still there but I can't find it.
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Matt
wrote:
> The time, Sun, 30 May 2004 22:05:28 GMT , The place,
> alt.fan.pratchett . grahamafforda...@hotmail.com
> (gra...@affordable-leather.co.ukDELETETHIS) chose this moment to say
> the following
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> On Sat, 29 May 2004 16:58:26 +0100, "Jon" <RSGD90...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> BTW, are these really Wossnames, or are they Woffnames?
>>>
>>> Wossnames they be. AFAIK the 'long' s wasn't used for double-s
>>
>> It certainly was in Germany because if you combine the two (ie "fs")
>> you get something that looks a bit like a Greek "Beta" character which
>> can be seen in street names as "StraBe" (pronounced "Strasse")
>
>
> And to think they used to have the letter in the font I'm using right
> now (es-tset, is it?)
>
> Probably still there but I can't find it.
This one: ß (latin small letter sharp s, apparently)
Lister
alt.fan.pratchett . Matt <nosp...@spam.matt.blissett.me.uk> chose
this moment to say the following
>On Mon, 31 May 2004 00:04:07 +0100, Lister <fromt...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>> The time, Sun, 30 May 2004 22:05:28 GMT , The place,
>> alt.fan.pratchett . grahamafforda...@hotmail.com
>> (gra...@affordable-leather.co.ukDELETETHIS) chose this moment to say
>> the following
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> On Sat, 29 May 2004 16:58:26 +0100, "Jon" <RSGD90...@aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> BTW, are these really Wossnames, or are they Woffnames?
>>>>
>>>> Wossnames they be. AFAIK the 'long' s wasn't used for double-s
>>>
>>> It certainly was in Germany because if you combine the two (ie "fs")
>>> you get something that looks a bit like a Greek "Beta" character which
>>> can be seen in street names as "StraBe" (pronounced "Strasse")
>>
>>
>> And to think they used to have the letter in the font I'm using right
>> now (es-tset, is it?)
>>
>> Probably still there but I can't find it.
>
>This one: ß (latin small letter sharp s, apparently)
That's the one, how do you get it again?
Matt
wrote:
> The time, Mon, 31 May 2004 00:15:12 +0100 , The place,
> alt.fan.pratchett . Matt <nosp...@spam.matt.blissett.me.uk> chose
> this moment to say the following
>
>> This one: ß (latin small letter sharp s, apparently)
>
> That's the one, how do you get it again?
Well, I just copied it in from the character map, you can use alt+0223,
and presumably if you have a German keyboard there's a key? Or (guessing)
AltGr+S?
Peachy Ashie Passion
> Darin Johnson <darin_@_usa_._net> writes:
>
>
>>"Jon" <RSGD90...@aol.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>>>I do recall hearing about men who enjoy doing the housework
>>>
>>>Eugh, that is <i>unnatural</i>!
>>
>>They've got all sorts of interesting medicines for the minds nowdays.
>>I've been meaning to ask the doctor if he's got a pill to make me
>>obsessive-compulsive for a few weeks, until my house is cleaned up[1].
>
>
> well speed works for a little while, but its slightly illegal, and messes
> you up in other ways, but you *do* get the housework done in record time ;)
>
would it make me _want_ to do the housework?
Or just make me do whatever I decide to do
instead faster?
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("Queeg"?) because the Marigolds clashed with his suit...
--
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Lister
alt.fan.pratchett . Mark Gallagher <f...@bar.net> chose this moment to
say the following
>In article <UQjsi6Vu...@cawley.demon.co.uk>, al...@spamspam.co.uk
>says...
>> In message <10bjt4b...@corp.supernews.com>, Duke of URL
>> <MacB...@kdsi.net> writes
>> >"Matthew Seaman" <m.se...@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:868yfa1...@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk...
>> >> sphir...@aol.com (CCA) writes:
>> >> > The Stainless Steel Cat wrote
>> >> >
>> >> > >A related extract from the "Doings of the Royal Society."
>> >> > Lady CC of A clears throat politely and asks...
>> >> > "What do the men wear? Just out of interest, you know..."
>> >>
>> >> Rubber.
>> >> After all, someone has to pull on the Marigolds and do the washing up...
>> >
>> >
>> >Er, pull on Marigold's /what/?
>>
>> Uk-ian reference. *The* Marigolds. The leading brand of rubber
>> washing-up gloves, usually pale yellow.
>
>If you're a Red Dwarf fan, you may recall Cat refusing to clean up
>("Queeg"?) because the Marigolds clashed with his suit...
I remember that one, can't place it though (very bad at quotes)
Lister
>On Mon, 31 May 2004 00:21:05 +0100, Lister <fromt...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>> The time, Mon, 31 May 2004 00:15:12 +0100 , The place,
>> alt.fan.pratchett . Matt <nosp...@spam.matt.blissett.me.uk> chose
>> this moment to say the following
>>
>>> This one: ß (latin small letter sharp s, apparently)
>>
>> That's the one, how do you get it again?
>
>Well, I just copied it in from the character map, you can use alt+0223,
>and presumably if you have a German keyboard there's a key? Or (guessing)
>AltGr+S?
Anha, cheat! :)
got it now, 0223, cheers
esmi
>On Sun, 30 May 2004 22:49:05 +0000 (UTC), esmi
><es...@lspace.org> wrote:
>> On 30 May 2004, Torak <and...@andrew-perry.com> wrote
>>> Yes, submit the PDF! Go on!
>> PDFs? Over my dead body!
>I dare you to take a screenshot and submit that ;-)
You obviously have a death wish...
>I'm sure the combined efforts of whoever could make a
>CSS+XHTML version.
You volunteering then? ;-)
Torak
> On 30 May 2004, Torak <and...@andrew-perry.com> wrote
>
>>Yes, submit the PDF! Go on!
>
> PDFs? Over my dead body!
But it's *pretty*...
I've got a .doc, too, if that's better.... (And what's wrong with PDF?)
Matt
> On 30 May 2004, Matt <nosp...@spam.matt.blissett.me.uk> wrote
>> On Sun, 30 May 2004 22:49:05 +0000 (UTC), esmi
>> <es...@lspace.org> wrote:
>>> On 30 May 2004, Torak <and...@andrew-perry.com> wrote
>
>>>> Yes, submit the PDF! Go on!
>
>>> PDFs? Over my dead body!
>
>> I dare you to take a screenshot and submit that ;-)
>
> You obviously have a death wish...
I've spent 15 minutes looking at music websites trying to find some
interesting music to download, whilst avoiding the "High Bandwidth" links
(I have a "High Bandwidth" link, but would prefer not to be made to watch
a two-minute flash thingy). In several cases, it redirects to the
high-bandwidth version anyway. *sigh*.
*hates Flash*
>> I'm sure the combined efforts of whoever could make a
>> CSS+XHTML version.
>
> You volunteering then? ;-)
I carefully didn't, maybe I'll look at it later. I was going to do some
revision ... mutter mutter mutter...
Dom
"I'm a doc Jim, not an acrobat" ;-)
Why not go the whole-hog and post it as a Powerpoint presentation?
g,d & r vvf....
--
Dom
afpSlave to CCA
Matt
Not fast enough!
*jumps in car*
*jumps out of cat, as I can't drive, and onto bike*
*cycles after, with a railgun*
Jenny Radcliffe
> *jumps in car*
> *jumps out of cat, as I can't drive, and onto bike*
> *cycles after, with a railgun*
You need to be able to drive a cat??
Jenny ;)
Sylvain Chambon
Well, yeah. Tis harder than you'd imagine.
Sylvain ("giddyup, Greebo!").