[1]Serendipity

[GaryN]

Hmmm, met the SO for lunch in town as is our wont on a Friday.

We made a lovely couple as she was wearing

http://www.paulkidby.com/tshirts/somethingwicked-1.htm with a gingham
skirt

whilst I was wearing

http://www.andy-sparrow.co.uk/shop/product/128w/index.html with torn
combats, hat, and my walking stick.

Both with combat boots (Not sure they go with a gingham skirt but what
the hell - you tell her, I'm not suicidal).

Completely unplanned/not discussed choice of clothing but a good
combination, the reactions were amusing.

The barman, who is used to us, just sighed and said "What do you want
today?"

"And do you have to wear shirts like that?"

"Nope, we can take them off"

So we ordered and looked for somewhere to sit.

The speed of an overweight Leftpondian tourist from a sitting start is
really quite remarkable..:-)[1]

gary

[1]At this point I should point out that I'm just short of 6 foot and
the SO is only about 1/2" shorter with a worse temper.

--
"Man with a crossbow in the proper place at the proper time
is worth a corps of heavy artillery half an hour late
and ten miles down the road from where it should be"

Gordon R. Dickson in "Tactics of Mistake"

[Chris Zakes]

On Fri, 25 May 2012 08:42:59 -0500, an orbital mind-control laser
caused GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> to write:

>Hmmm, met the SO for lunch in town as is our wont on a Friday.
>
>We made a lovely couple as she was wearing
>
>http://www.paulkidby.com/tshirts/somethingwicked-1.htm with a gingham
>skirt
>
>whilst I was wearing
>
>http://www.andy-sparrow.co.uk/shop/product/128w/index.html with torn
>combats, hat, and my walking stick.
>
>Both with combat boots (Not sure they go with a gingham skirt but what
>the hell - you tell her, I'm not suicidal).
>
>Completely unplanned/not discussed choice of clothing but a good
>combination, the reactions were amusing.
>
>The barman, who is used to us, just sighed and said "What do you want
>today?"
>
>"And do you have to wear shirts like that?"

They seem perfectly reasonable shirts to me. If you want "offensive"
shirts, try this story:
http://dcist.com/2012/05/american_airlines_boots_pro-choice.php

-Chris Zakes
Texas
--

It has demanded us to deliver up our arms, which are essential to our defence, the
rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.

-Texas Declaration of Independence

[John S. Wilkins]

Chris Zakes <dont...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 May 2012 08:42:59 -0500, an orbital mind-control laser
> caused GaryN <webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> to write:
>
> >Hmmm, met the SO for lunch in town as is our wont on a Friday.
> >
> >We made a lovely couple as she was wearing
> >
> >http://www.paulkidby.com/tshirts/somethingwicked-1.htm with a gingham
> >skirt
> >
> >whilst I was wearing
> >
> >http://www.andy-sparrow.co.uk/shop/product/128w/index.html with torn
> >combats, hat, and my walking stick.
> >
> >Both with combat boots (Not sure they go with a gingham skirt but what
> >the hell - you tell her, I'm not suicidal).
> >
> >Completely unplanned/not discussed choice of clothing but a good
> >combination, the reactions were amusing.
> >
> >The barman, who is used to us, just sighed and said "What do you want
> >today?"
> >
> >"And do you have to wear shirts like that?"
>
> They seem perfectly reasonable shirts to me. If you want "offensive"
> shirts, try this story:
> http://dcist.com/2012/05/american_airlines_boots_pro-choice.php
>

I agree. Mention of Congressmen is always seriously offensive.
--
John S. Wilkins, Associate, Philosophy, University of Sydney
http://evolvingthoughts.net
But al be that he was a philosophre,
Yet hadde he but litel gold in cofre

[Robert Carnegie]

I'm reminded of a Hawaiian shirt incident described here,
<http://www.clivejames.com/television/visions/preface>

[GaryN]

jo...@wilkins.id.au (John S. Wilkins) wrote in news:1kkph36.z2txdjvjrszhN%
jo...@wilkins.id.au:

<snip>

> I agree. Mention of Congressmen is always seriously offensive.

That's back to your countryman Kevin Bloody Wilson -
"If it's political it's not likely to be fucking correct"

I've posted the link to "Common Sense" enough times for everyone to know
where it is.

Bit like Billy Connelly on smoking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSV9MhHUYeM&feature=related

We need these people to say in public what we can't.

gary

[Larry Moore]

On 2012-05-26, John S. Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:

> Chris Zakes <dont...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> They seem perfectly reasonable shirts to me. If you want "offensive"
>> shirts, try this story:
>> http://dcist.com/2012/05/american_airlines_boots_pro-choice.php
>>
> I agree. Mention of Congressmen is always seriously offensive.

Aside from that, it seemed quite First Amendment compliant.

--
"... as it is, increases are of sluggish growth, but the way to
ruin is rapid." Lucius Anneaus Seneca, Letters to Lucilius, n. 91

[Lesley Weston]

On 05-25-12 7:15 PM, Chris Zakes wrote:
> On Fri, 25 May 2012 08:42:59 -0500, an orbital mind-control laser
> caused GaryN<webm...@oxtoyrun.org.uk> to write:
>
>> Hmmm, met the SO for lunch in town as is our wont on a Friday.
>>
>> We made a lovely couple as she was wearing
>>
>> http://www.paulkidby.com/tshirts/somethingwicked-1.htm with a gingham
>> skirt
>>
>> whilst I was wearing
>>
>> http://www.andy-sparrow.co.uk/shop/product/128w/index.html with torn
>> combats, hat, and my walking stick.
>>
>> Both with combat boots (Not sure they go with a gingham skirt but what
>> the hell - you tell her, I'm not suicidal).
>>
>> Completely unplanned/not discussed choice of clothing but a good
>> combination, the reactions were amusing.
>>
>> The barman, who is used to us, just sighed and said "What do you want
>> today?"
>>
>> "And do you have to wear shirts like that?"
>
> They seem perfectly reasonable shirts to me. If you want "offensive"
> shirts, try this story:
> http://dcist.com/2012/05/american_airlines_boots_pro-choice.php

"could have been seen as offensive to other passengers". Wasn't that why
she was wearing the shirt?

Lesley.

--
This address is real, but to reach me use leswes att shaw dott ca

[GaryN]

Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:jpqtje
$37u$3...@mud.stack.nl:

I've given up trying to work out what might be offensive to other people
and just wear whatever I want.[1] My "Never Mind the Bollocks" T-shirt
(genuine) probably upsets people who were just a glint in daddys carnal
eye and testicles when I bought it.

I grew up in the age before Political Correctness. Thank God. I still
live there.

gary

[1]Because I was there, they weren't, and I don't give a shit.

[Chris Zakes]

I found the shirt as a whole funny, but putting the word "fuck" on it
is going to offend a lot of people.

If the shirt said "If I wanted the government in my womb, I'd take a
senator to bed" that would get the same message across, and bother far
fewer people. But if your message alienates more people than it amuses
or persuades, then overall it's a failure.

-Chris Zakes
Texas
--

Arguably, the real crime here would be building a machine this cool and *not* using it.

-Alice in the "Dilbert" comic strip

[John S. Wilkins]

Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2012-05-26, John S. Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> > Chris Zakes <dont...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> They seem perfectly reasonable shirts to me. If you want "offensive"
> >> shirts, try this story:
> >> http://dcist.com/2012/05/american_airlines_boots_pro-choice.php
> >>
> > I agree. Mention of Congressmen is always seriously offensive.
>
> Aside from that, it seemed quite First Amendment compliant.

The FA only constrains government, alas. It seems private institutions
can do what they like, IIANM.

[GaryN]

Chris Zakes <dont...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a913s7lse34a55gsf...@4ax.com:

<snip>

> I found the shirt as a whole funny, but putting the word "fuck" on it
> is going to offend a lot of people.

Given that almost anything will offend someone I've given up worrying.
Someone took offense at my walking stick the other day, said I shouldn't
be allowed to walk around with it. I just looked her in the eye and
said "Well I can't walk around without it" and showed her the scars on
my leg.

She went away.

> If the shirt said "If I wanted the government in my womb, I'd take a
> senator to bed" that would get the same message across, and bother far
> fewer people. But if your message alienates more people than it amuses
> or persuades, then overall it's a failure.
>
> -Chris Zakes
> Texas

Sometimes the "expletive for effect" is actually quite effective, like
KBW "If it's Political it probably ain't fucking Correct"[1]. Adds the
emphasis and frankly I hear worse from the kids around here every day.

But anyway, here's one for Sunday morning before church, usual bad
language warning!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb7SYnTw6Fs&feature=related

gary

[1]A sentiment I fully agree with

[Larry Moore]

On 2012-05-27, John S. Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
> Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2012-05-26, John S. Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> > Chris Zakes <dont...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> They seem perfectly reasonable shirts to me. If you want "offensive"
>> >> shirts, try this story:
>> >> http://dcist.com/2012/05/american_airlines_boots_pro-choice.php
>> >>
>> > I agree. Mention of Congressmen is always seriously offensive.
>>
>> Aside from that, it seemed quite First Amendment compliant.
>
> The FA only constrains government, alas. It seems private institutions
> can do what they like, IIANM.

The airline could have asked her to change ... the one word makes
the statement 'offencive speech' and so grounds for barring a
passenger from boarding.

--
Think of Cassandra, the prophetess. There was a prophecy that said that
Troy would fall to the Greeks, she knew it. But that didn't prevent her from
fighting for her city; she did what she could and, eventually, she paid with
her life her failure. But it was her duty to do it. Ugo Bardi

[Chris Zakes]

On Sun, 27 May 2012 11:03:59 -0500, an orbital mind-control laser
caused Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> to write:

>On 2012-05-27, John S. Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>> Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2012-05-26, John S. Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>>> > Chris Zakes <dont...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> They seem perfectly reasonable shirts to me. If you want "offensive"
>>> >> shirts, try this story:
>>> >> http://dcist.com/2012/05/american_airlines_boots_pro-choice.php
>>> >>
>>> > I agree. Mention of Congressmen is always seriously offensive.
>>>
>>> Aside from that, it seemed quite First Amendment compliant.
>>
>> The FA only constrains government, alas. It seems private institutions
>> can do what they like, IIANM.
>
>The airline could have asked her to change ... the one word makes
>the statement 'offencive speech' and so grounds for barring a
>passenger from boarding.

According to the news article (linked above) they did ask her to
change, but in such a way that she missed her connecting flight.

[Larry Moore]

On 2012-05-28, Chris Zakes <dont...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2012 11:03:59 -0500, an orbital mind-control laser
> caused Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> to write:
>
>>On 2012-05-27, John S. Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>>> Larry Moore <sshirley...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2012-05-26, John S. Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>>>> > Chris Zakes <dont...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> They seem perfectly reasonable shirts to me. If you want "offensive"
>>>> >> shirts, try this story:
>>>> >> http://dcist.com/2012/05/american_airlines_boots_pro-choice.php
>>>> >>
>>>> > I agree. Mention of Congressmen is always seriously offensive.
>>>>
>>>> Aside from that, it seemed quite First Amendment compliant.
>>>
>>> The FA only constrains government, alas. It seems private institutions
>>> can do what they like, IIANM.
>>
>>The airline could have asked her to change ... the one word makes
>>the statement 'offencive speech' and so grounds for barring a
>>passenger from boarding.
>
> According to the news article (linked above) they did ask her to
> change, but in such a way that she missed her connecting flight.
>
> -Chris Zakes
> Texas

I see. I wonder if it were opinions that the flight captain agreed
with whether he would have taken the time out of his busy professional
day to ensure that the passenger missed their connecting flight.

--
Quand les hommes ne peuvent changer les choses,
ils changent les mots.
Jean Jaure's