[I] Some more meanings of Liff
Jon
Ackleton; n.; a dull throbbing pain in the left knee.
Airdrie; adj.; the feeling of light-headed youthfulness that overcomes one
while riding in an open-topped sports car.
Ashby Puerorum; n.; the debris left behind the school bike shed by smoking
teenagers.
Askham Richard; n; the person in a pub who always reads out the quiz
questions.
Aston Rogers; n.; attempting to have sex in a sports car.
Babbacombe; n.; the business of talking to babies in silly voices.
Bacup; n.; the point at which you realise you have gone the wrong way.
Bargoed; adj.; of young offenders, to be not allowed to go into town
centres.
Bingley; adj.; the condition of being offensively bright and cheerful in the
early morning.
Birstall; adj.; desperate to use a public lavatory.
Bosham; n.; an actor who continually relates unlikely theatrical stories.
Bradninch; n.; a measure, defined as 'close enough for DIY'.
Burbage; n.; in the theatre, dialogue whose sole purpose is to cover a
costume change by one or more of the cast.
Canterbury; adj.; of racehorses, the condition of coming in last, long after
all the other horses have finished.
Cark; v.; to cark is to have both vomiting and diahorrea simultaneously.
Often follows a portadown (q.v.).
Catford; n.; small moat around a garden, in the hope of keeping feline
intruders out.
Cattistock; n.; any item used to try and chase out of the garden those who
have crossed the catford.
Chapelizod; n.; anyone who seems to you worryingly reptilian.
Chatham; n.; someone who you only know through an internet chat-room.
Cheadle; v.; to play any game as close to the bounds of legality as
possible, without actually breaking the rules. ('Dennis Bergkamp cheadled
throughout the match, succeeding in getting two opposition players sent
off').
Chepstow; n.; someone who, when walking through a crowd, treads on as many
toes as possible.
Chickney; n.; any female pop singer who pretends to be a teenager, while in
fact being at least twenty-five.
Clashnessie; n.; an argument with one who believes in the existence of the
Loch Ness Monster.
Climpy; adj.; of civil servants, to be politely but persistently obstructive
to all forms of action; victims of climpy officials are said to be
'climped'.
Clodock; n.; an insult. A clodock is one who is taken in by Nigerian e-mail
scams.
Copnor; n.; the technical term for a police officer who has just arrested
the wrong person.
Cornholme; pr. n.; the former residence of Barbara Cartland.
Culross; adj.; a state of mind brought on by watching too many episodes of
'Friends'.
Cwm-y-glo; n.; the feeling of well-being experienced after a good orgasm.
Daglingworth; adj.; the feeling that one has not wiped one's bottom
sufficiently.
Digbeth; n.; a lady gardener.
Diggle; v.; to pretend to garden, while actually gawping at the lady next
door sunbathing in her bikini.
Douglas; n.; an uncultivated garden.
Dowlish Wake; n.; the act of having to get up way before your normal time.
Drumshanbo; n; descriptive of the noise made by an amateur percussionist.
Dudley; adj.; able to pass counterfeit money.
Duleek; n; of paint tins, to seep all over the floor.
Dunfermline; n.; any house inhabited by a retired body-builder.
Dunkeswell; adj.; of a biscuit, to be suitable for dipping in tea or coffee.
Dymchurch; n.; any religion designed to attract the hard of thinking. ('It
dawned on L. Ron Hubbard one day that what he really needed to create was a
dymchurch'.)
Eccles; pl. n.; persons planted in the audience to shout things out that
give a comedian the opportunity to show off his witty repartee.
Faddiley; adj.; to believe in every new treatment peddled in the Sunday
supplements.
Fulking; ptcpl. v.; the act of fulking is defined as buggering about on the
internet all day, whilst pretending to work.
Gittisham; adj.; liable to cause outbreaks of bad-tempered meanness, e.g.
persistent and awful carol-singers.
Great Dunmow; n; one who has finished cutting the grass, and is now boasting
about it.
Great Limber; n.; one who, when playing any sport, spends more time warming
up than actually playing.
Gussage All Saints; v.; in music, to write inane lyrics for girl groups.
Haverhill; adj.; being unable to decide whether to walk up to the castle, or
just stay in the restaurant at the bottom.
Hay on Wye; n.; a vegetarian sandwich that looks or sounds much nicer than
it in fact is.
Haydon Wick; adj.; the condition of the genitals after having sex in a
field.
Helmshore; n.; a nautical term meaning 'the place where amateur sailors
always run aground'.
Hipperholme; n.; any area with a higher than average number of young
trendies.
Hoaldalbert; n.; in the theatre, any part involving playing an old man with
a dodgy cockney accent.
Horsham; n.; what you are likely to be served in cheap Belgian cafes.
Howth; adj.; to be possessed of the knowledge of ways of doing things ('I'd
put up the shelves, but I haven't got the howth').
Humberstone; n.; the kind of tan you get in a sunbed lounge in Hull.
Inishkeen; adj; descriptive of one who is eager to get into a pub.
Jarrow; n.; the surprise bump in the back received by every novice oarsman.
Keevil; adj.; to be very keen on being wicked.
Kildrummy; adj.; state of mind engendered by hearing one too many percussion
solos.
Kilnagross; n.; a measure, defined as the number of corpses in a Bruce
Willis movie.
Knottingley; adj.; gifted with the ability to tie really complicated knots
Kursaal; adj.; the feeling that you hate everybody, and wish they were dead.
Leaden Roding; n.; perfunctory and listless sexual performance.
Leith; adj.; slightly out of breath.
Llanthony; n.; anyone who misspells their name in the hope of making them
sound more interesting.
Longhorsley; n.; a tale so protracted and boring that by the time the teller
has reached whatever point they were trying to illustrate, the listener has
forgotten the subject of the conversation.
Luncarty; adj.; of modern conceptual artists, to affect to be yobbish.
Lydiard Millicent; n.; in the novels of Jane Austen, any character who is
mentioned but has no dialogue.
Macduff; n.; one who always misquotes Shakespeare.
Margaretting; adv.; the business of jetting about the world drinking
yourself to death, thinking this will make you an interesting person.
Minety; adj.; the feeling that someone's successful career should have been
yours.
Morecombelake; n.; the correct technical term for the wet patch in a bed.
Nant-y-groes; n.; any large and ugly aunt who insists on kissing you.
Navity; n.; the ability to pick the right direction without the aid of a
map.
Oldshore Beg; n.; acts performed by elderly and destitute sailors, in the
hope people will give them money.
Pen-y-parc; n.; a place for keeping writing utensils.
Ploxgreen; n.; any bodily secretion whose origin cannot be determined.
Pontefract; n.; one who always has a (lengthy) opinion on subjects they know
nothing about.
Portadown; n.; the point at which you will drink anything.
Puddinglake; n,; the result of too much custard.
Puncknowle; n.; a young and aggressive student who doesn't know as much as
he thinks he does.
Rampisham; adj.; feeling inclined to indulge in exuberant sex, usually after
a visit to the pub.
Ratlinghope; adj.; the unreasonable optimism of railway staff that a
life-expired train will reach its destination.
Rattray; n.; device for serving meals to rodents.
Resipol; pr. n.; a UN organisation dedicated to apprehending international
cookery thieves.
Ringinglow; n.; the noise you get in your inner ear after being too near
campanologists.
Rootpark; n.; any part of a town or city set aside for extra-mural sex.
Rushden; adj.; the feeling engendered when you realise that you have
blundered into a situation you do not in fact understand.
Shankill; adj.; the condition of being unable to masturbate.
Sheepscar; n.; any injury sustained while attempting bestiality.
Shocklach; adj.; the feeling you get after the sudden discovery you have no
alcohol in the house.
Shoreditch; n.; the compulsion that drives sailors, as soon as they have
arrived in port, to find the nearest brothel.
Sixpenny Handley; n.; a very short time with a prostitute.
Slaithwaite; n.; a very long cold wait for a bus, resulting in mild
hypothermia.
Slamannan; adj.; behaviour likely to lead to storming out of the room.
Slieve Muck; n.; one who never carries a handkerchief.
Snead; n.; one who waits until you have left the room before bad-mouthing
you.
Stubbins; n.; the ancient art of smoking dog-ends.
Stuggadhoo; n.; a situation where you are completely climped (q.v.) whatever
you do.
Summerseat; n.; the vast salad consumed on the first day the sun actually
shines, in the belief this will somehow make the good weather more
enjoyable.
Swanbach; v.; to return in triumph, and strut about proudly.
Swettenham; n.; a fat actor.
Sydling Saint Nicholas; n.; the process by which Santa Claus gains access to
houses without chimneys.
Tarrant Rushton; v.; to hurry a dithering gameshow contestant into giving an
answer.
Timperley; adj.; of burglars, to be hesitant and timid when breaking an
entry.
Toller Porcorum; v.; to carry on telling lies even when it is now clearly
pointless.
Totnes; adj.; not exactly drunk, just not able to walk in a very straight
line.
Troon; adj., to be bored by TV, but not bored enough to get up and switch it
off.
Trumpan; n. obs.; an instrument used by the Victorians to disguise the sound
of breaking wind.
Uckfield; n.; an unsatisfactory heavy petting session.
Upottery; n.; the kind of craft shop that sells desperate tat at £14.99 per
item.
Urchfont; v.; to overbalance while in the act of baptism.
Wakefield; adj.; of camping, the inability to sleep in a tent.
Wartling; n.; a young toad.
Welsh End; n.; the retirement age of professional swindlers.
Whaplode; n.; of lorries, any cargo slapped on the truck without being
properly secured.
Whimple; n.; noise made by a small child when unsure whether to cry or not.
Wimbish; adj; very much inclined to go away and pretend to have seen
nothing.
Windermere; n.; a very thin garment, allegedly weatherproof, that proves not
to be.
Winterslow; n.; any traffic jam caused by bad weather conditions.
Wootton Fitzpaine; n.; a blind or curtain that fits just nicely over the
window.
Worth Matravers; n.; any tourist attraction which will reward taking a
detour to see it.
Yarmouth; adj.; the feeling in the gums after a long night's carking (q.v.)
session.
Yetts o'Muckhart; n. pl.; what you get if you don't clean the toilet very
often.
(Anyone unfamilar with the original concept, go to
http://www.douglasadams.com/creations/liff.html).
--
Go n-ithe an cat thú, is go n-ithe an diabhal an cat!
Brian Wakeling
Jon <brier...@aol.com> typed:
> There isn't a fine for Douglas Adams refs is there? No? OK,
> then;
>
> Bingley; adj.; the condition of being offensively bright and
> cheerful in the early morning.
You obviously have never been there.
--
Sabremeister Brian :-)
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Use b dot wakeling at virgin dot net instead
Jon
> In news:b5pqru$2benbe$1...@ID-184931.news.dfncis.de,
> Jon <brier...@aol.com> typed:
>> There isn't a fine for Douglas Adams refs is there? No? OK,
>> then;
>>
> <SNIP>
>> Bingley; adj.; the condition of being offensively bright and
>> cheerful in the early morning.
>
> You obviously have never been there.
I have so too. Up all five locks of it. Anyway the whole point of Liff is it
isn't the /place/ that is defined, but the /word/. My wife is given to being
very bingley, and it's damned annoying.
Jenny Delaney
"Jon" wrote:
re Bingley:
> I have so too. Up all five locks of it. Anyway the whole point of Liff is
it
> isn't the /place/ that is defined, but the /word/. My wife is given to
being
> very bingley, and it's damned annoying.
As in "Bingley bingley bingley beep"?
Jenny
Jon
That's the very thing I mean. (I'm deaf, so I don't hear the alarm clock
itself .... but I can hear my wife being bingley alright .... digging up
trees at 0700 it was last week...)
CCA
(Reluctantly snipped Meanings Of Liff ideas)
ISTR there was one in the original book that had the definition "The minimum
distance at which sheep remain picturesque". I wish I could remember what it
was.
CCA:)
Eric Jarvis
about 400 metres
--
eric - afprelationships in headers
www.ericjarvis.co.uk
"Hey Lord don't ask me questions
There ain't no answer in me"
klar...@tiscali.se
Best wishes
Martin (who grew up in Sloinge or Slöinge, which can be found in The Deeper
Meaning of Liff)
Aquarion
SHEPPY (n.)
Measure of distance (equal to approximately seven eighths
of a mile), defined as the closest distance at which sheep
remain picturesque.
--
Aquarion, http://www.aquarionics.com, aqua...@suespammers.org
"I'm sure we can talk things out like
civilized people" -J. Wayne
war...@affordable-afpers.co.uk
brier...@aol.com says...
> There isn't a fine for Douglas Adams refs is there? No? OK, then;
Jo and I actually use Kent from the original, although we've verbed it.
Kent: adj
Politely determined not to help despite a violent urge to the contrary.
And when Jo or I has taken the other through something, ie When I was
first learning to cook or when Jo was first getting up to speed on a PC
we would both get the sense that we were doing things a bit slower than
the expert. "Are you Kenting?" was asked a goddly number of times.
Warwick
Martyn Clapham
<brier...@aol.com> writes
If you only went up 5 locks you've been short-changed!
There are at least 8 locks there. ( 5-rise staircase, 3-rise staircase
and IIRC 2 or 3 single locks )
One other point.
>Bacup; n.; the point at which you realise you have gone the wrong way.
Actually Bacup is only pronounced this way when it's the charity[1], the
town is pronounced with a long 'a'.
Not sure what sort of thing a 'bake up' would be.
Mart.
[1] As they provide backup to, I think, cancer patients.
--
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6 years and counting!
Adrian Ogden
>ISTR there was one in the original book that had the definition "The minimum
>distance at which sheep remain picturesque". I wish I could remember what it
>was.
Sheppey, iirc.
--
<< Adrian Ogden -- "Sic Biscuitus Disintegrat" -- www.rdg.ac.uk/~sssogadr/ >>
I'm not in this for the snobbery. I'm in it for the cheese.
-- Terry Pratchett on a.f.p.
Jon
> In message <b5pu2s$2biv4n$1...@ID-184931.news.dfncis.de>, Jon
> <brier...@aol.com> writes
>>þus cwæð Brian Wakeling:
>>> In news:b5pqru$2benbe$1...@ID-184931.news.dfncis.de,
>>> Jon <brier...@aol.com> typed:
>>>> There isn't a fine for Douglas Adams refs is there? No? OK,
>>>> then;
>>>>
>>> <SNIP>
>>>> Bingley; adj.; the condition of being offensively bright and
>>>> cheerful in the early morning.
>>>
>>> You obviously have never been there.
>>
>>I have so too. Up all five locks of it. Anyway the whole point of Liff is
it
>>isn't the /place/ that is defined, but the /word/. My wife is given to
being
>>very bingley, and it's damned annoying.
>
> If you only went up 5 locks you've been short-changed!
> There are at least 8 locks there. ( 5-rise staircase, 3-rise staircase
> and IIRC 2 or 3 single locks )
OK, so I can't count. (Actually the 5-rise was all I could remember about
the place, which rather validates Brian's original point).
> One other point.
>
> >Bacup; n.; the point at which you realise you have gone the wrong way.
>
> Actually Bacup is only pronounced this way when it's the charity[1], the
> town is pronounced with a long 'a'.
I know, I know - I used to work in Rochdale bus station. (Service 464 to
Bacup, every ten minutes, Stand F .... yes, and the same to you, missis). I
can mangle the language for the sake of a cheap gag, can't I? Everybody else
does .....
SteveD
meticulously glued three electrons together and said:
>Kent: adj
>Politely determined not to help despite a violent urge to the contrary.
Ooh, I want that one for the local helpdesk. I was on it for two years,
and trained myself in this very art. And yes, one of the operators was
called Kent. Bluddy nice bloke, but continually projected an impression
of tightly-controlled annoyance. Somewhat ineffectually, I thought, as
he also had the air of someone who, if they snapped, would just stand
there shaking violently and perhaps grinding their teeth.
Helpdesk - the place where you learn the fine distinction between the
amount of help that will make someone go away, and the tiny bit more
that will cause Their Problem to become Your Problem, seconds before
exploding messily and making you miss your lunch break.
A related breakpoint is the one where it will be less hassle on your
part to send out a technician to the user's office (high but fixed
amounts of paperwork) than it will be to walk the caller through the
necessary troubleshooting (various according to the problem and the
caller). Experienced techs can pin down this calculation to a fine
degree within seconds of taking a call.
-SteveD
--
"Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine."
Jen Birren
> >Bacup; n.; the point at which you realise you have gone the wrong way.
>
> Actually Bacup is only pronounced this way when it's the charity[1], the
> town is pronounced with a long 'a'.
>
> Not sure what sort of thing a 'bake up' would be.
It sounds Aussie to me for some reason. "Hey guys, let's have a
bake-up!" just seems like something someone on Home and Away would come
up with to cheer up somebody who'd had a tragic surfing accident. Maybe
it's like a clambake only not clams.
Jen
sjb351
........thus invoking the Australian Cringe. Accusing us of a kitch little
phrase like that is nothing short of......I lack the vocabulary. I hereby
disown it on behalf of the whole country. Yes. I did ask them. Did so. Same
to you.
--
_____________________
Stupidity = Naivety x Time
sjb351
Dead right. In my experience, the latter usually prevails. People just can't
follow instructions. I wish I had a dollar for every time someone has said
to me "What Start button"?
I support a number of senior managers, so when they commit an idiocy, for
the sake of peace (etc) I merely tell them that their problem was a 'pebkac'
error. I say it in such an offhand way as to suggest it's hopelessly
technical. Good fun.
Let me know if you've never heard of it.....
Maybe we should compile a book of stupid user errors. It wouldn't take long.
Buzzholio
Well you have my permission to speak for me on *this* issue certainly.
To me a "bake-up" sounds far more like something the Merkins would do,
"cookout, clambake, etc." the best we Aussies can manage is a
'barbie'. BTW this shameless passing of the blame for this word is
silly, we should stop it, that means the Merkins have to keep it Nyah
Nyah.... Oh and you can have Steve "Ritalin Poster Boy" Irwin as well.
--
Buzzholio - Who has absolutely never said "Crikey".
Daibhid Ceannaideach
>From: "Jon" brier...@aol.com
>Date: 25/03/03 15:06 GMT Standard Time
>Message-id: <b5pqru$2benbe$1...@ID-184931.news.dfncis.de>
>
> There isn't a fine for Douglas Adams refs is there? No? OK, then;
Actually, I think there is. Well, if there isn't, can I get a refund on all the
ones I've paid?
Anyway, after racking my brain for years, I have only ever come up with one
Meaning of Liff entry:
Dingwall: n. A conceptual barrier surrounding a ringing telephone. When two
people, leaving different rooms to answer the phone, catch sight of each other
and stop dead in their tracks chorusing "Okay, you get it", they are said to
have "hit the dingwall."
--
Dave
Now Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc for FOUR years
"The real reason for the whole thing is that it was just too much effort *not*
to have a war."
-Cpt Edmund Blackadder, Blackadder Goes Forth
sjb351
>> ........thus invoking the Australian Cringe. Accusing us of a kitch
little
>> phrase like that is nothing short of......I lack the vocabulary. I hereby
>> disown it on behalf of the whole country. Yes. I did ask them. Did so.
Same
>> to you.
>
> Well you have my permission to speak for me on *this* issue certainly.
> To me a "bake-up" sounds far more like something the Merkins would do,
> "cookout, clambake, etc." the best we Aussies can manage is a
> 'barbie'. BTW this shameless passing of the blame for this word is
> silly, we should stop it, that means the Merkins have to keep it Nyah
> Nyah.... Oh and you can have Steve "Ritalin Poster Boy" Irwin as well.
Amen on all points. I've been meaning to wander up to the Sunshine Coast and
give that bugger a good slapping.
Although I have to concede that despite the fact that he inspires the phrase
"target practice" upon first contact, he mustn't be as stupid as he looks.
If he was he would've been dead by now. The only thing ever to get him has
been the Qld OH&S Legislation.
BTW: I do say crikey, and all sorts of other ocker stuff. Sorry. Old
habits....
jester
<sjb...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
<snip [Steve Irwin]>
> give that bugger a good slapping.
> Although I have to concede that despite the fact that he inspires the phrase
> "target practice" upon first contact, he mustn't be as stupid as he looks.
> If he was he would've been dead by now. The only thing ever to get him has
> been the Qld OH&S Legislation.
And while in (IIRC) Africa, a tree *grin*
This brought about the classic line of "If this happens to you, get
medical attention immediately, don't keep going like I'm going to"
OK, the rest of us don't have a camera crew with us, but...
--
Andy Brown
Why is "abbreviation" such a long word?
CCA
> Oh and you can have Steve "Ritalin Poster Boy" Irwin as well.
Oh, you can keep him, definitely...
CCA:)
PussInSpooks
>
>Dingwall: n. A conceptual barrier surrounding a ringing telephone. When two
>people, leaving different rooms to answer the phone, catch sight of each
>other
>and stop dead in their tracks chorusing "Okay, you get it", they are said to
>have "hit the dingwall."
My journey to work will never be the same again
Buzzholio
> Buzzholio (>buzz...@dodo.com.au) wrote
>
> > Oh and you can have Steve "Ritalin Poster Boy" Irwin as well.
>
> Oh, you can keep him, definitely...
Well I *was* trying to foist him off to the Merkins but I suppose that
you Pommie Bas.. er English [1] are at least as much to blame.. now
lets see I need to make a list:
chloroform (sp?)
1 box 6' X 2' X 2'
tape, hundrymilanour (tm), 3 rolls
stamps [3]...
oh and to get back on topic (as if we care) a copy of the Meaning of
Liff for a suitably amusing place name to send him to, hmm <checks
Jon's list> Bingley seems appropriate.
[1] And yes I meant *English* I'd never even heard of this 'famous'
Australian until my English relatives started talking about him [2] my
Scottish relatives never mentioned the great jessie. The Welsh and
Nthn Irish can have the benefit of the doubt.
[2] I did wonder why South Park etc. were doing really bad Crocodile
Dundee pisstakes, now I know :)
[3] He's only a coupla hours away, I could leave now and be back for
lunch.
sjb351
>
> [3] He's only a coupla hours away, I could leave now and be back for
> lunch.
For me too. Haven't bothered so far....
--
_____________________
Nils Gustaf Lindgren
Jon wrote:
> There isn't a fine for Douglas Adams refs is there? No? OK, then;
Knockdownbally - state of mind induced by assembling IKEA furniture from flat
packages.
OK, so you tell me there´s no such place as Knockdownbally? Spoilsport.
Nils Gustaf
Stig M. Valstad
<nils.l...@drchips.se> wrote:
>
>
>Jon wrote:
>
>> There isn't a fine for Douglas Adams refs is there? No? OK, then;
>
>Knockdownbally - state of mind induced by assembling IKEA furniture from flat
>packages.
Why is it that everyone complain about assembling IKEA furniture?
In my experience they come with very good instructions and the
pieces fit well together.
--
Stig M. Valstad
OHNOSECOND: That minuscule fraction of time in which you realize that
you've just pushed the 'send' button on an email with a BIG mistake.
Ingvar Mattsson
> On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:04:22 +0200, Nils Gustaf Lindgren
> <nils.l...@drchips.se> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Jon wrote:
> >
> >> There isn't a fine for Douglas Adams refs is there? No? OK, then;
> >
> >Knockdownbally - state of mind induced by assembling IKEA furniture from flat
> >packages.
> >OK, so you tell me there愀 no such place as Knockdownbally? Spoilsport.
>
> Why is it that everyone complain about assembling IKEA furniture?
> In my experience they come with very good instructions and the
> pieces fit well together.
Instructions? Ah, yes, I actually looked at the instructions for the
Ivar computer-desk-thingy (second one, both now house monitors and
keyboards), since it's a bit of a bastard to figure out from first
principles (not undoable, just happens to be faster reading the
docs). For most other IKEA stuff I have, I've probably dis- and
re-assembled them several times by now, so I know how they work.
As for "fits well together", that (alas) varies. Esopecially when you
suddenly find yourself with a multiplicity of Billy models. There are
at *least* three different generations with subtle differences between
them, so if one has a disassembled pile, it does actually take some
careful matching. *sigh*
//Ingvar
--
When in doubt, debug-on-entry the function you least suspect have
anything to do with something.
Nils Gustaf Lindgren
> first
> principles (not undoable, just happens to be faster reading the
> re-assembled them several times by now ... (a)s for "fits well together", that
> (alas) varies ... a multiplicity of Billy models ... are at *least* three
> different generations with subtle differences between
> them, so if one has a disassembled pile, it does actually take some
> careful matching. *sigh*
It appears you feel a bit knockdownbally, Ingvar. I know exactly what it愀 like; you
and me both, brother. IO will not even go into the folding chair I bought back in
... and those tables that you ... and don愒 get me started on this arm-chair that
... or the glass-cupboard you were supposed to ...
Knockdownbally.
Cheers!
Nils Gustaf
Thomas Zahr
news:87istv4...@gruk.tech.ensign.ftech.net:
...
>
> As for "fits well together", that (alas) varies.
> Esopecially when you suddenly find yourself with a
> multiplicity of Billy models. There are at *least* three
> different generations with subtle differences between them,
> so if one has a disassembled pile, it does actually take
> some careful matching. *sigh*
>
I think it comes from different factories too, several years ago it was Poland, but
they may now be sourcing further east as well. So there will be discrepancies in the
tolerances between one factory and another, plywood (if that's the right term) is not
the best material to stay within tolerances, and different machines, different set ups
and different material specifications make a *big* difference even before design
changes come into play.
--
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Thomas =:-)
<out of sig error>
Nils Gustaf Lindgren
place names just waiting for a ... re-evaluation.
Angers - a person's collection of petty peeves
Aurillac - sovereign remedy against aural constipation
Baccarat - support your local rodent!
Banassac - a bag to keep your flags, banners, and standards in
Barentin - can of preservatives that has lost the label
Barfleur - French lady frequenting a pub
Brest - superlative of grood (grood, bretter, brest)
Gruffy - morning state of mind of person whose spouse is BINGLEY
Murat - rodent with a speech impediment
Issoire - where you go to ee
The last one may be even worse than the others, and ... oh well, what the heck.
Nils Gustaf
[1] I tell a lie: I sat down, drooling over the possibilities. If you grok that
these were my best efforts, be very very happy that I omitted the bad ones.
Jon
<snip les Liffes Francais>
> Gruffy - morning state of mind of person whose spouse is BINGLEY
Here, you haven't been hiding in my bedroom of a morning, have you?
Go on, do some Scandiwegian ones ....
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Jon
> þus cwæð Nils Gustaf Lindgren:
>
> <snip les Liffes Francais>
>
>> Gruffy - morning state of mind of person whose spouse is BINGLEY
>
> Here, you haven't been hiding in my bedroom of a morning, have you?
>
> Go on, do some Scandiwegian ones ....
Actually (replying to own post, bad lad) a quick scan of the map reveals
Jonkoping .... ha! That'll be the day.
Ingvar Mattsson
> þus cwæð Jon:
> > þus cwæð Nils Gustaf Lindgren:
> >
> > <snip les Liffes Francais>
> >
> >> Gruffy - morning state of mind of person whose spouse is BINGLEY
> >
> > Here, you haven't been hiding in my bedroom of a morning, have you?
> >
> > Go on, do some Scandiwegian ones ....
>
> Actually (replying to own post, bad lad) a quick scan of the map reveals
> Jonkoping .... ha! That'll be the day.
Though this is a case where the crud on top of the letters is actually
significant. And just because I thought I'd try to find another one
starting with "Jon", I couldn't. *sigh*
Oooh, there seems to be a place called "Jonseryd". And a company named
"Jonsered" (probably named after a place with the same name).
As for scandawegian "liffs", I present:
Kalmar: The slightly odd feeling in your stomach as you realise that
yesterday's seafood possibly wasn't of the highest quality.
//Ingvar
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Being a collection of Discworld Liff-isms from denizens of this parish
past and present. My current favourite is still the sadly missed
Heather Knowles' "Ambiguous Puzuma" definition.
Contributions are invited.
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Nils Gustaf Lindgren
This means I´ll have to point that out in the entry for ISSOIRE.
BTW, I dare anyone to find a Liff for a place name in Hungary .... oh
wait, I got one ...
Budapest (n) epidemic invasion of little monks in saffron robes (se also
rule 1) - or has that been done too?
Cheers
Nils Gustaf
Nils Gustaf Lindgren
> Maybe we should compile a book of stupid user errors. It wouldn't take long.
I believe there already exists a "Helpdesk from Hell" site on the Internet.
Seems run by the guys who ... errr ... well, in a loose and off-hand way they
_have_ something to do with my Internet connection - they愉e the ones to call
(office hours only, nowadays, in an effort to better the service - used to be
week-ends and evenings too) to hear that the problem is none of their doing.
Next time, I惻l ask them if it might be a 'pebkac'. Mwahahaha ....
Cheers
Nils Gustaf
Eric Jarvis
>
> BTW, I dare anyone to find a Liff for a place name in Hungary .... oh
> wait, I got one ...
> Budapest (n) epidemic invasion of little monks in saffron robes (se also
> rule 1) - or has that been done too?
>
Fehervar: the absence of sound caused by catching an "uh" or "er"
before uttering it
Eger: one who is always just a little too enthusiastic about what
others are about to do, particularly common amongst TV presenters
Tatabanya: an item of head wear made from a strip of cloth dirty
enough to be of an entirely unidentifiable colour
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There ain't no answer in me"
Tonje Kristin Nilsen
<ing...@cathouse.bofh.se> wrote:
>"Jon" <brierley...@aol.com> writes:
>
>> þus cwæð Jon:
>> > Go on, do some Scandiwegian ones ....
Will some very bad ones do? (Hey, it's late!)
<trying hard to think of names that sounds like they mean something in
English>
Bamble - the way one feels the first time one tries to skate
Hell - a journey taken for the sole purpose of taking a picture of a
sign
Alta - an urge to drastically change the scenery in a place you've
never been to [1]
Enebakk - the kind of person who is polite enough to keep a low
profile, even though not really interested in the lecture, movie or
play he/she is attending
Askim - the state of not knowing what to answer someone, but still
wanting to help them
Pestilenseidet - (the -et is silent [2][3]) to come up with new and
exciting diseases; favourite hobby among hypochondriacs
Nome - desperate attempt of getting someone else to do a task
appointed to you
Oslo - the way a group of people simultaneously struck by depression
feels
Nibe - a very enthusiastic Monty Python-fan
>> Actually (replying to own post, bad lad) a quick scan of the map reveals
>> Jonkoping .... ha! That'll be the day.
>
>Though this is a case where the crud on top of the letters is actually
>significant. And just because I thought I'd try to find another one
>starting with "Jon", I couldn't. *sigh*
>
>Oooh, there seems to be a place called "Jonseryd". And a company named
>"Jonsered" (probably named after a place with the same name).
<looking it up, hold on a moment>
Or Jonasmoen, Jonasneset, Jonasvollen, Jondal, Jondalen, Jondalselva,
Jonjok, Jonsgard, Jonshorn, Jonshøgdi, Jonsknuten, Jonsrud, Jonstein,
Jonsten, Jonvasshøgda, Jonvatnet or Jonsåsreset. But I'm to tired to
make anything of those.
[1] Alta River in Northern Norway was the site of a very controversial
dam, built despite heavy protests from Sami population and
environmentalists, among others
[2] Well, actually just the -t, but how about some artistic license?
[3] And yes, it is a real name
--
Tonje
"It is is no problem being brave
if one is not afraid"
- Tove Jansson
Jon
> On 04 Apr 2003 16:50:37 +0100, Ingvar Mattsson
> <ing...@cathouse.bofh.se> wrote:
>
>>"Jon" <brierley...@aol.com> writes:
>>
>>> þus cwæð Jon:
>>> > Go on, do some Scandiwegian ones ....
<snip some very good liffs, mange takk>
>>> Actually (replying to own post, bad lad) a quick scan of the map
>>> reveals Jonkoping .... ha! That'll be the day.
>>
>>Though this is a case where the crud on top of the letters is
>>actually significant. And just because I thought I'd try to find
>>another one starting with "Jon", I couldn't. *sigh*
>>
>>Oooh, there seems to be a place called "Jonseryd". And a company
>>named "Jonsered" (probably named after a place with the same name).
>
> <looking it up, hold on a moment>
>
> Jonjok,
I tell a few ...
> Jonshorn
No comment
> Jonsrud,
Been known
> Jonvasshøgda,
Look, I'm on a diet, right?
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Tonje Kristin Nilsen
tknilsenDON'TWAN...@student.sv.uio.no (Tonje Kristin Nilsen) wrote:
<talking to myself>
<snip>
>Pestilenseidet - (the -et is silent [2][3]) to come up with new and
>exciting diseases; favourite hobby among hypochondriacs
I think perhaps only the t should be silent.
And all the words should have English pronunciation, not Norwegian or
Danish, of course.
Richard Bos
> On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 22:04:22 +0200, Nils Gustaf Lindgren
> <nils.l...@drchips.se> wrote:
> >Knockdownbally - state of mind induced by assembling IKEA furniture from flat
> >packages.
>
> Why is it that everyone complain about assembling IKEA furniture?
> In my experience they come with very good instructions and the
> pieces fit well together.
You might as well be asking why people don't bloody RTFM. There _is_ no
reason, they just don't. And then they complain that "it", makes no
difference whether "it" is IKEA furniture, a very basic computer system,
or just life in general, is too hard. I suspect it's congenital.
Richard
Michael Gilbert
1: Unhelpful. Like where the pictures on one of those internationalised
big folded bits of paper don't actually make sense.
2: Unhelpful. Like where it tells you to refer to the other manual you
haven't got because you need to set the system up to print it out.
3: Unhelpful. Like where the manual refers to the behaviour and UI of
product X v1.12, but they changed that in v1.14 and haven't changed the
manual yet even though you've just bought v1.17.
4: Unhelpful. Like where it was written by someone who knew exactly how
the product worked, without bothering to ask a novice to see if it made
sense.
5: Unhelpful. Like where it's not actually written to be read by normal
people. The Bible and the MacOS X Server installation guide are good
examples of this.
Good manuals are worth several times their weight in gold. Installing
Sophos AV, in whichever variant, holds no fear, because I know I can't
cock it up because the manual tells me exactly what to do.
--
Michael Gilbert: in his own write
Was you ever stung by a dead bee?
Ruthi Rokshin
05:56:29 GMT, Richard Bos wrote...
> You might as well be asking why people don't bloody RTFM. There _is_ no
> reason, they just don't. And then they complain that "it", makes no
> difference whether "it" is IKEA furniture, a very basic computer system,
> or just life in general, is too hard. I suspect it's congenital.
>
There's a Manual for life in general? Where? How can I get my eyes on it?
--
Ruthi
Daibhid Ceannaideach
If there *is* a manual for life in general, I suspect it starts:
1. IMPORTANT! Before you begin, please ensure the following...
--
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Now Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc for FOUR years
"The real reason for the whole thing is that it was just too much effort *not*
to have a war."
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gra...@affordable-leather.co.ukdeletethis
On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:21:57 +0100, Michael Gilbert
<mgil...@eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>People don't RTFM because it's <snip>
You missed out:
Unhelpful because it's been translated to English from Japanese by the
traditional Korean Rice Farmer.
Cheers,
Graham.
Axel Kielhorn
> You might as well be asking why people don't bloody RTFM. There _is_ no
> reason, they just don't. And then they complain that "it", makes no
> difference whether "it" is IKEA furniture, a very basic computer system,
> or just life in general, is too hard. I suspect it's congenital.
You have a manual on life in general?
Wow, that's almost as good as looking at the source code.
Axel
--
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You'll make up for what I blew
What's the problem ... Why are you crying
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Eric Jarvis
> Richard Bos <r...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> wrote:
>
> > You might as well be asking why people don't bloody RTFM. There _is_ no
> > reason, they just don't. And then they complain that "it", makes no
> > difference whether "it" is IKEA furniture, a very basic computer system,
> > or just life in general, is too hard. I suspect it's congenital.
>
> You have a manual on life in general?
> Wow, that's almost as good as looking at the source code.
>
apparently we've got a pretty good version of the source
code...and I gather that it may be possible to understand some of
it within 2 or 3 hundred years
Richard Bos
> In article <3e926418....@news.nl.net>, Richard Bos
> <URL:mailto:r...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl> wrote:
> > sti...@siclone.itea.ntnu.no (Stig M. Valstad) wrote:
> >
> > > Why is it that everyone complain about assembling IKEA furniture?
> > > In my experience they come with very good instructions and the
> > > pieces fit well together.
> >
> > You might as well be asking why people don't bloody RTFM. There _is_ no
> > reason, they just don't. And then they complain that "it", makes no
> > difference whether "it" is IKEA furniture, a very basic computer system,
> > or just life in general, is too hard. I suspect it's congenital.
> >
> People don't RTFM because it's
>
> 1: Unhelpful.
Not nearly as unhelpful as people who won't even attempt to RTFM, and
then complain that the task is beyond them. As with, for example, IKEA
furniture, which is quite assemblable by anyone with a working brain, no
more manual dexterity than mine (which is not bloody much, I can assure
you), and a willingness to at least glance at TFM.
Richard
sjb351
> There's a Manual for life in general? Where? How can I get my eyes on it?
Oh no....please don't ask questions like that on Usenet.... *duck*
Richard Bos
There is. You cannot get your eyes on it, though, because by tradition
it is spread orally, not in writing. Its advises are rarely adhered to
by those needing them the most, the usual reactions being "But that's
not fair!" and "I'm moving somewhere else!".
Richard
Orjan Westin
news:MPG.18ff3ffb8...@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
> Axel Kielhorn wrote:
> >
> > You have a manual on life in general?
> > Wow, that's almost as good as looking at the source code.
>
> apparently we've got a pretty good version of the source
> code...and I gather that it may be possible to understand some of
> it within 2 or 3 hundred years
Written in Perl, is it?
Orjan
Eric Jarvis
unfortunately God appeared to forget to add any comments into DNA
lboody programmers
Peter Ellis
>"Eric Jarvis" <w...@ericjarvis.co.uk> wrote:
>> Axel Kielhorn wrote:
>> >
>> > You have a manual on life in general?
>> > Wow, that's almost as good as looking at the source code.
>>
>> apparently we've got a pretty good version of the source
>> code...and I gather that it may be possible to understand some of
>> it within 2 or 3 hundred years
>
>Written in Perl, is it?
More like cable knit, with lots of dropped stitches.
Peter
Yannick Larvor
> Axel Kielhorn wrote:
>> You have a manual on life in general?
>> Wow, that's almost as good as looking at the source code.
> apparently we've got a pretty good version of the source
> code...
You sure? I think we have an executable with a lot of dynamically
linked libraries.
--
Yannick
François-Xavier de Montgolfier
wrote:
Sorry, I had it once, but had to use it to refresh a bottle of wine
during a hot summer in so. Shreduthern France. Shredded the manual to
bits, wrapped my bottle in them, moistened the whole thingy, and let
it dry in the wind so that the wine temperature dropped to the
_exactly right_ temperature. Divine!
And, frankly, having no life is a small price to pay for the wine I
had this day ;-P
FiX
--
what's the difference between a laser and #afp ....a laser's coherent
-- Hippo on #afp, as he suddenly realises the devastating truth
Elliot Grasett
<snippety>
>>
>
> unfortunately God appeared to forget to add any comments into DNA
>
> lboody programmers
Oh, the comments are there, all right. But you can't tell them
from the code. Just look for "useless" bits of DNA, the bits
that don't seem to DO anything . . . those are comments.
HTH, Elliott
--
No one can be an unbeliever nowadays.
The Christian Apologists have left one
nothing to disbelieve.
H. H. Munro ("Saki")
François-Xavier de Montgolfier
Bos) wrote:
>Michael Gilbert <mgil...@eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>> People don't RTFM because it's
>> 1: Unhelpful.
>Not nearly as unhelpful as people who won't even attempt to RTFM, and
>then complain that the task is beyond them. As with, for example, IKEA
>furniture, which is quite assemblable by anyone with a working brain,
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ah, _that_ would be what I miss, then.
I nonetheless manage to assemble his ikea furniture quite easilly.
OTOH, I often do IT support, and thus know how important FMs are.
Especially when it's me writing the manual and the client fucking up
gra...@affordable-leather.co.ukdeletethis
On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 05:58:59 GMT, r...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl (Richard
Bos) wrote:
>Not nearly as unhelpful as people who won't even attempt to RTFM, and
>then complain that the task is beyond them. As with, for example, IKEA
>furniture, which is quite assemblable by anyone with a working brain, no
>more manual dexterity than mine (which is not bloody much, I can assure
>you), and a willingness to at least glance at TFM.
You've obviously never experienced MFI flat-pack furniture!
If the plans actualy *matched* the pieces you could guarantee that
you wouldn't have all the right parts. If you had the right parts you
could guarantee that the holes wouldn't line up properly. If the holes
lined up you've probably got the wrong plans.
Cheers,
Graham.
Richard Eney
Not just furniture. I once had to assemble (in the sense of "bolt the
handles onto") a wheelbarrow. One hole was drilled in the wrong place in
the round metal tube handles. Fortunately, one side of the hole was
correct, so I only had to redrill the other side.
=Tamar
Matt
Whatever happened to the self-replicating virus?
Oh, sorry, wrong thread.
--
Matt
(I'm kinda proud of this.)
Richard Bos
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 05:58:59 GMT, r...@hoekstra-uitgeverij.nl (Richard
> Bos) wrote:
>
> >Not nearly as unhelpful as people who won't even attempt to RTFM, and
> >then complain that the task is beyond them. As with, for example, IKEA
> >furniture, which is quite assemblable by anyone with a working brain, no
> >more manual dexterity than mine (which is not bloody much, I can assure
> >you), and a willingness to at least glance at TFM.
>
> You've obviously never experienced MFI flat-pack furniture!
I don't know who MFI is, but I certainly have assembled flat-pack
furniture, and have had no significant problems with it.
Richard
Lots42 bomb vice president
>Not nearly as unhelpful as people who won't even attempt to RTFM, and
>then complain that the task is beyond them. As with, for example, IKEA
>furniture, which is quite assemblable by anyone with a working brain, no
>more manual dexterity than mine (which is not bloody much, I can assure
>you), and a willingness to at least glance at TFM.
I have number 1 and number 3 but my manual dexterity is in the -negative-
range. I easily knock things over. I would not be suprised if some day I
managed to blow up the world in a chain of even started by simply turning
around and running into a bookshelf.
Lots42 bomb vice president
>There's a Manual for life in general? Where? How can I get my eyes on it?
>
>--
>Ruthi
>
>
Well, according to Google...
Be cool while driving, especially if you're in a traffic jam. You don't want
your car wrecked just because someone tries to cut you in. Play some music,
relax, and advance. One at a time.
Sage advice. Although, I would not like to be cut into while driving. And the
radio stations don't play anything decent.
Lots42 bomb vice president
>You have a manual on life in general?
>Wow, that's almost as good as looking at the source code.
>
>Axel
>--
The source code for my life compiles into a MPG of Jesus throwing Barney off a
cliff.
Eric Jarvis
one of the great talents we have in the UK is the ability to take
a fine idea from elsewhere in the world and adapt it by taking
out every single thing that makes the idea useful...such as fast
food restaurants with slow service...and in this case flat pack
furniture that is made from components that are all slightly and
subtly different so they don't actually fit together
Guitar Huw
> Richard Bos wrote:
> > gra...@affordable-leather.co.ukDELETETHIS wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > You've obviously never experienced MFI flat-pack furniture!
> >
> > I don't know who MFI is, but I certainly have assembled flat-pack
> > furniture, and have had no significant problems with it.
> >
>
> one of the great talents we have in the UK is the ability to take
> a fine idea from elsewhere in the world and adapt it by taking
> out every single thing that makes the idea useful...such as fast
> food restaurants with slow service...and in this case flat pack
> furniture that is made from components that are all slightly and
> subtly different so they don't actually fit together
>
Made *BY* Idiots would be more appropriate.
--
Huw
Random_C
> 1: Unhelpful. Like where the pictures on one of those internationalised
> big folded bits of paper don't actually make sense.
I've yet to have one from Ikea that didn't make sense, but my father
seems to be picture-dyslexic.
> Good manuals are worth several times their weight in gold. Installing
> Sophos AV, in whichever variant, holds no fear, because I know I can't
> cock it up because the manual tells me exactly what to do.
I knew there had to be a reason our IT dept switched to it. They have
one Clue between them, which I belive the director keeps locked in the
data safe.
Random_C
> Hi there,
>
> On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 22:21:57 +0100, Michael Gilbert
> wrote:
>
>
> >People don't RTFM because it's
>
>
> You missed out:
>
> Unhelpful because it's been translated to English from Japanese by the
> traditional Korean Rice Farmer.
>
> Cheers,
> Graham.
I once had to learn a programming language (admittedly an incredibly
simple one) from a single side of A4, which had been translated in a
hurry from chinese. I'm still amazed that what I wrote worked,
especially as most of what was on the paper was not, in fact, true.
Lady Kayla
[...]
> one of the great talents we have in the UK is the ability to take
> a fine idea from elsewhere in the world and adapt it by taking
> out every single thing that makes the idea useful...such as fast
> food restaurants with slow service...and in this case flat pack
> furniture that is made from components that are all slightly and
> subtly different so they don't actually fit together
One night, K's bed collapsed (one of the welded-on legs snapped off),
so we decided to get her a new bed. Follows the saga:
go to MFI to buy a bed; choose bed; get told by sales assistant "it'll
be delivered to you in 6 weeks. We have them shipped to us when you
order, we don't actually keep anything in stock!"; Say "Sod that." and
go to Ikea.
Go to Ikea to buy bed; choose bed; go to shelves and pick up box with
bits in; pay for it and take it home; unpack pieces; take door off
bedroom to get bed in; put it together; discover that the slats that
will support the mattress are all about an inch too short, which
wouldn't matter, but the holes to fit them to the base are all in the
wrong places as well; ring Ikea; they send more slats, which are
identical to the first lot; refuse to dismantle the bed to take it
back - it's only coming out of that room with a chainsaw and they've
said that if you do that they won't pay a refund; spend the next 6
weeks arguing with Ikea; they finally send "engineers" out, who take
one look at the bed and say "you're absolutely right! Our helpdesk
people are stupid!"; get sent properly measured and drilled slats the
following day; swear _never_ to buy large furniture from Ikea ever
again.
There's not much to choose between them. It was still almost 2 months
before K stopped sleeping on a mattress on the floor and was able to
sleep in a proper bed again.
--
Lady Kayla http://designs.ladykayla.org/
"I've met people who've flown Garuda. That's why I've never flown
Garuda." Terry Pratchett on AFP.
gra...@affordable-leather.co.ukdeletethis
On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:10:35 +0100, Guitar Huw <ghus...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
>> > > You've obviously never experienced MFI flat-pack furniture!
<snip>
>> > I don't know who MFI is, but I certainly have assembled flat-pack
>> > furniture, and have had no significant problems with it.
>>
>The usual comment is MFI=Made For Idiots.
>
>Made *BY* Idiots would be more appropriate.
My usual comment was "Making it's F-ing Impossible!"
Cheers,
Graham.
Michael Gilbert
Customer: The network's got a problem
Office person: Oh dear. What's the problem?
Customer: The library isn't connecting.
Office person: Oh dear. Have you got an error message?
Customer: Yes, the dynamic link to the library isn't working.
Office person: Okay, I'll pass that on...
--
Michael Gilbert: in his own write
Was you ever stung by a dead bee?
Michael Gilbert
Enterprise Manager bit, you don't need to do anything at all to keep
every machine up to date.
We find this useful because we kept going to schools and being presented
with the monthly CDROMs and a request to install them. Usually after
several months, of course.
Richard Bos
> I once had to learn a programming language (admittedly an incredibly
> simple one) from a single side of A4, which had been translated in a
> hurry from chinese. I'm still amazed that what I wrote worked,
> especially as most of what was on the paper was not, in fact, true.
Anything we're likely to know, or is this proprietary? The only
languages I know that would fit on an A4 are not the kind that one
actually programs in.
Richard
Jeremy Stark
dic...@radix.net (Richard Eney) wrote:
> Fortunately, one side of the hole was
> correct, so I only had to redrill the other side.
<out of context>
I'd just like to point out the odd image this brought to mind.
IYSWIM.
</out of context>
--
Jeremy