Absolute Zero
Matthew Buchanan
Should Come in handy for my french homework...
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Benjamin J. Tilly
mat...@matthew1.demon.co.uk (Matthew Buchanan) writes:
> Hey, I've just found out that absoloute zero=-273 degrees celcius.
>
> Should Come in handy for my french homework...
> --
I believe that it is closer to -273.3 degrees centigrade. Incidentally
it is a myth that you cannot get below absolute 0. In fact you can by
the technical definition of temperature because of wierd quantum
mechanical effects, and objects that are below it act in some ways like
very hot objects.
Before flaming me go to sci.answers or news.answers and look in the
sci.physics FAQ...
Ben Tilly
Malachi
>I believe that it is closer to -273.3 degrees centigrade. Incidentally
>it is a myth that you cannot get below absolute 0. In fact you can by
>the technical definition of temperature because of wierd quantum
>mechanical effects, and objects that are below it act in some ways like
>very hot objects.
into it. Can't talk about the bloody weather without you goin on about
quantum and probability and t-shirts.
And butterflies! You and your damn butterflies. With all them damn butterflies
out there, howcome my house ain't been blown away? Huh?
Quantum. Absolute zero.
Go sit on an ice cube.
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Darren Gedye
>mat...@matthew1.demon.co.uk (Matthew Buchanan) writes:
>> Hey, I've just found out that absoloute zero=-273 degrees celcius.
>There's a theory that say if 0K is ever reached, a black hole would be created.
>Something to do with the atoms stopping moving and all falling in towards ecah
>other or summat.
But if they have stopped moving how can they fall toward each other? Its like
the bank robber who says nobody move followed by put your hands up. Can't be
done.
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Matthew Buchanan
d...@blender.demon.co.uk "Daniel Cannon" writes:
> Matthew Buchanan <mat...@matthew1.demon.co.uk> wibbled:
> > Hey, I've just found out that absoloute zero=-273 degrees celcius.
>
> Blimey. My carrier bag just has 'Keep out of reach of children' written on
> it.
>
> Dan.
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Cor. I wish I had a plastic bag which said that on it. But there is not a shop
called That on it.
Colm Buckley
>I believe that it is closer to -273.3 degrees centigrade. Incidentally
>it is a myth that you cannot get below absolute 0. In fact you can by
>the technical definition of temperature because of wierd quantum
>mechanical effects, and objects that are below it act in some ways like
>very hot objects.
Hey! Anti-cold! Just like in Equal Rites.... whatever next?
Colm.
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Ben Schofield
Jz>> Hey, I've just found out that absoloute zero=-273 degrees celcius.
Jz>> Should Come in handy for my french homework...
Jz> There's a theory that say if 0K is ever reached, a black hole would be
Jz> created. Something to do with the atoms stopping moving and all falling
Jz> in towards ecah other or summat.
Hmmm... I wonder if anyone's though of building the test lab in the European
Parliament building....
Ben.
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Terry Pratchett
cbuc...@cs.tcd.ie "Colm Buckley" writes:
> > == Benjamin...@dartmouth.edu (Benjamin J. Tilly)
>
> >I believe that it is closer to -273.3 degrees centigrade. Incidentally
> >it is a myth that you cannot get below absolute 0. In fact you can by
> >the technical definition of temperature because of wierd quantum
> >mechanical effects, and objects that are below it act in some ways like
> >very hot objects.
>
> Hey! Anti-cold! Just like in Equal Rites.... whatever next?
>
> Colm.
If I took some seriously hard drugs and invented the most implausible Discworld
physics I could think of I'd still be outdone by a couple of sober
physicists and mathematicians.
Terry Pratchett
Andrew Eacott
>mat...@matthew1.demon.co.uk (Matthew Buchanan) writes:
>>
>> Should Come in handy for my french homework...
>
>Something to do with the atoms stopping moving and all falling in towards ecah
>other or summat.
>
Erm, if they've stopped moving, how can they fall in towards into each other?
Philip Armstrong
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They can't ... it's dem quantum mechanics like Hotmountain (transl.)
who keep 'em moving even at 0K.
And negative absolute temperatures are not a big deal - any Maser or Laser
is better understood by niveau inversion, so there.
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Benjamin J. Tilly
Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:
But we could not say it in nearly as amusing a fashion. Although some
might try. I know that I am going to mess this quote up royally, but I
will give it a shot.
"Doing physics is like trying to set your imagination free while
keeping it in a straightjacket." --Richard Feynman
Or something vaguely like that. [1]
Ben Tilly
[1] This came out as part of a response to a question about how to
design an anti-gravity machine. He *meant* the straightjacket to refer
to the fact that we are constrained by reality, but it does have a nice
double-entendre. :-)
Geoffrey John Stockham
> cbuc...@cs.tcd.ie "Colm Buckley" writes:
>> > == Benjamin...@dartmouth.edu (Benjamin J. Tilly)
>>
>> >I believe that it is closer to -273.3 degrees centigrade. Incidentally
>> >it is a myth that you cannot get below absolute 0. In fact you can by
>> >the technical definition of temperature because of wierd quantum
>> >mechanical effects, and objects that are below it act in some ways like
>> >very hot objects.
There's a thing called "spin-temperature" where the temp goes from 0 to
infinity[1], to minus infinity, to minus 0, so -0 is "hotter" than 0.
Personally, I don't trust anything quantum.
>> Hey! Anti-cold! Just like in Equal Rites.... whatever next?
>>
>> Colm.
>If I took some seriously hard drugs and invented the most implausible Discworld
>physics I could think of I'd still be outdone by a couple of sober
>physicists and mathematicians.
>
>Terry Pratchett
[1] Aaargh! Collision course with the infinity thread[2]
[2] Which I don't understand either.
Geoff Stockham g...@st-and.ac.uk
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Laura Johnson
: If I took some seriously hard drugs and invented the most implausible Discworld
: physics I could think of I'd still be outdone by a couple of sober
: physicists and mathematicians.
"If"?? ;->
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Chris Dollin
If I took some seriously hard drugs and invented the most implausible
Discworld physics I could think of I'd still be outdone by a couple
of sober physicists and mathematicians.
So when can we all get together at a con, and who's to be judge?
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Roger Barnett
> >
> > >I believe that it is closer to -273.3 degrees centigrade. Incidentally
> > >it is a myth that you cannot get below absolute 0. In fact you can by
> > >the technical definition of temperature because of wierd quantum
> > >mechanical effects, and objects that are below it act in some ways like
> > >very hot objects.
> >
> > Hey! Anti-cold! Just like in Equal Rites.... whatever next?
> >
>
> Discworld physics I could think of I'd still be outdone by a couple of sober
> physicists and mathematicians.
>
Ah, but the difference is that their livelihoods depend on _not_ being
understood.
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Leon Brocard
Benjamin...@dartmouth.edu "Benjamin J. Tilly" writes:
] > Hey, I've just found out that absoloute zero=-273 degrees celcius.
]
] I believe that it is closer to -273.3 degrees centigrade. Incidentally
] it is a myth that you cannot get below absolute 0. In fact you can by
] the technical definition of temperature because of wierd quantum
] mechanical effects, and objects that are below it act in some ways like
] very hot objects.
Sounds weird. But more importantly: I wonder if anyone has made any ICE beer by
going down all the way to (or though?) absolute zero?[1] And does it taste
nice?[2] Oh, and let's all join in: <GLUG>
[1] Ah, back to the ICE Beer Thread...
[2] Well, how about "different"?[3]
[3] OK, better than Merkin beers[4]...
[4] Not very hard.
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Carl Muckenhoupt
> 0 Kelvin = -273.13 <- That's what I always thought.
Pratchett relevance: 273 is the number of seconds that, according to
TCOM, people are not allowed, for their own safety, to stay in the
same room as the Octavo. (Phrased as "no more than four minutes and
thirty-two seconds".) I suspect that Pterry got the number from
John Cage, who in turn got it from Lord Kelvin.
Carl Muckenhoupt
Graham Davies
>If I took some seriously hard drugs and invented the most implausible Discworld
>physics I could think of I'd still be outdone by a couple of sober
>physicists and mathematicians.
>
>Terry Pratchett
Yep, that old reality will do it to you every time. Talking to some sober
physicists and mathematicians is a bit like taking hard drugs anyway.
News Flash ........
Men arrested when their boat was found to contain 3 tons of mathematicians,
with an estimated street value of, well about £1.60. Customs officers wearing
ear plugs to avoid any harmful effects raided the boat when it pulled into
London.
Just a thought.
Graham.
Matthew Buchanan
Philip Armstrong
Rupert Morrish <rmor...@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote:
>Phil Armstrong (pja1002.cus.cam.ac.uk) writes:
>> In article <778949...@unseen.demon.co.uk>,
>> Terry Pratchett <Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >If I took some seriously hard drugs and invented the most implausible
>> >Discworld physics I could think of I'd still be outdone by a couple of
>> >sober physicists and mathematicians. > quote! quote!
>
>
>C'mon, Phil. You can't deny a fellow Cantabrigian, can you?
mine, all mine :^)....
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Rupert Morrish
> In article <778949...@unseen.demon.co.uk>,
> Terry Pratchett <Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >If I took some seriously hard drugs and invented the most implausible
> >Discworld physics I could think of I'd still be outdone by a couple of
> >sober physicists and mathematicians. > quote! quote!
Is this a claim for a sig? If not, I want it.
C'mon, Phil. You can't deny a fellow Cantabrigian, can you?
Rupert