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Terry Pratchett
Robert Sadler
>wants another Rincewind book. In the pit of the night it's all down to what I
>decide, not a committee...but what would YOU do, boys and girls?
>
>Terry
>
Why not both (ie Rincewind & Morts daughter in the same book)? Or even
add the witches as well - Hey, Morts daughter could be the third witch.
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In article <729862...@unseen.demon.co.uk>, Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:
|> wants another Rincewind book. In the pit of the night it's all down to what I
|> decide, not a committee...but what would YOU do, boys and girls?
Probably take on another job. A more boring one, where one can have a little
piece and quiet :) *Bad Pratchett emulation mode off*
I can only say what I'd like, not what I'd do ... or rather, more precisely,
what I'd _not_ like: No more Rincewind books! No more Weatherwax stuff! They
were great, they were hilarious, and I know that 'the reader' (whatever that's
supposed to be) likes to read what (s)he already knows, about know characters
with known behaviour patterns.
Speaking for myself, not the hypothetical 'average reader', what I always liked
about the Discworld series was that it continued having fresh ideas, not treading
the same old mill over and over again. IMHO that's what's gone wrong with the
Hitchhiker's Guide ... somewhere in the third book it got stale.
Enough uncoordinated blabber for now
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Stephen Ch Litterst
>wants another Rincewind book. In the pit of the night it's all down to what I
>decide, not a committee...but what would YOU do, boys and girls?
>
>Terry
Well, you could always combine the ideas. I'm usure as to where Rincewind is
right now, (Living in the Pratchett-deprived states does that) but you could
give him a bit part in the witches story, sort of like you did in Mort. I
personally would love to see a resolution of Death's vendetta against Rincewind.
I know that Death claimed to have given up but after the events of Reaper Man
he may be nostalgic for lost friends (or however you would define the relation-
ship between Death and Rincewind.) But I like the idea of Granny returning to
Ankh-Mopork and I think that Nanny Og would love the city. How about a stop
by the Dysk to visit the actors (since they all know each other from Wyrd
Sisters.)?
Steve L.
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Laura Johnson
> Or I've got some notes here which I keep
> adding to for a plot involving Mort's daughter (after all, he's been married
> since the end of the 4th book!)
I like this one, as it's a new character, and as another poster pointed
out, you can always give bit parts to others (you can do ANYTHING! it's
YOUR UNIVERSE! what power!!).
BTW and totally off the subject, I've just finished (over a 3-weeks period)
_Witches_Abroad_, _Lords_and_Ladies_, _Eric_ (finally!), and _Only_You_
Can_Save_Mankind_.* Loved 'em all, especially the last-mentioned; good
work Terry!!
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David Meyer
No more witches stuff, please - I think the characters are getting
stale. Finding out what Mort has been doing all these years would be
nice - it would also present an opportunity to spotlight my favorite
character: Death.
Dave
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Chris Page
I'm from the states - so the list of books I've read only includes
those that the @#$@!@# publisher has brought across the Atlantic.
Until Reaper Man, one of the main things I liked about Pratchett's
books was that each one was about a brand new set of characters (as a
generalization) and they all were located in different places. In short,
there was a great deal of variety so the series never got dull. Sure,
Death appeared in every book and the librarian in almost every one -
but they only had a major role in one book each. Rincewind actually
was the major exception to this rule - he also appeared in Sorcery.
(I'm lumping The Color of Magic and The Light Fantastic together,
and remember - go ahead and gloat - a certain 4-letter book hasn't
appeared in the states yet!) Granny Wetherwax is the only other
exception I can think of.
Some troubling signs were evident in Moving Pictures - Throat, Cobb,
Nobby, and Detrius all reappeared, but they had either been very minor
characters and were now major, or vice versa. The real worrying book
was Reaper Man, where Ridcully was the first archchancellor to second
into his second book, while Varoni, Cobb, Windle Poons, Throat, and
others all reappeared again. It seemed like Terry Pratchett had given up
creating new characters and was recycling old ones. (Yes, I know there
were some new characters as well.) Witches Abroad was another
disappointment in that respect, since the three main characters were
also the three main characters of Wyrd Sisters. And it seems like it is
only going to get worse, since Eric, Lords and Ladies, and Men at Arms
are all going to reuse main characters.
So, in short, how about a story that features a new group of characters
(such as Pyramids - the only duplication is Death)? Not that I dislike
the old characters - I just always like to see new ones.
-Chris Page
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Andrew Boardman
I want to see a book where Greebo and the Librarian team up. The ol'
take out the best characters and give them their own show type of deal
:-)
Something that gets away from what you seem to have been doing in the
more recent books (like Moving Pictures, Witches Abroad, etc), namely
weaving the plot around altered mundanity, and go back to stuff that
could ONLY happen on the Discworld.
Personally, I'd like to see Great A'Tuin used a little more actively.
:-)
-- Andrew
Michael W. Lucas
>decide, not a committee...but what would YOU do, boys and girls?
I'd ask (no, plead) for another book with an all-new major character.
Those books that are the most original are the ones that I prefer.
Cameos by old favorites are great, but we're all so familiar with the
older characters that we know what to expect from them.
Give us someone new to start discussions on, and to research obscure
annotations on!
That's my vote. Then again, as Terry said, this is a democracy:
He's The Man, he gets The Vote.
Michael
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I had to ask. How can I resist it? How many writers can get this kind of
instant audience feedback? Thanks to all who sent me private mail (largely
saying: Hey, write what you like, p.s. More Death, please.
Of course I'm not going to write to order and I hope no-one thinks I intend to.
But what I _was_ cheered by was the _lack_ of votes for an instant Rincewind
book. It's not that I never want to write about the guy ever again, but
right here and now I haven't got a plot I'm happy with (hey, a _plot_? In
a Rincewind book?). The witches...oh, my fingers itch when I think of what
Nanny Ogg could get up to in an opera. On the other hand, I might write the
one I didn't tell you about...
This little Ted editor is amazing for 3k! I've learned to use it!
Terry
Paula Mickevich
The next Discworld book I'd _like_ to
... In the pit of the night it's all down to what I
decide, not a committee...but what would YOU do, boys and girls?
Terry^[
MORE WITCHES!! Please!
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Jason D Corley
Before I start in on my Dream Pratchett Novel (tm), I just want to
say that Witches Abroad finally propogated its way down here to
Tucson, AZ, and I finished it the night I got it. Capsule Review:
Good concept, slightly reminiscent of Craig Shaw Gardner, GREAT
to see Greebo ("Yarrgetoffyabarstard!") again, good sequel to the
first witches story, kept the characters fairly constant, got a bit
muddled round about the 3/4 mark, but all in all a good solid
Discworld book chock full of quotables and memorable bits (asking
Death if he wants some tea, Nanny Ogg's postcards, etc., etc. ad nauseum
:-)
Now...for the dream sequence....cue up that watery music...
I like the idea of new characters. I also like the idea of making
some minor ones major, but be warned! I can't remember any particularly
minor characters right off-hand that haven't been in at least 2 books,
most in 3...and they usually can't be considered minor at that point.
It's the Discworld Mythos! Yeah, just like Lovecraft! Well, not
_just_ like Lovecraft.
There was a suggestion to do a Greebo/Librarian story. I have a feeling
I would laugh so hard over that one I would puke, so I think it would be
best to discard that notion. However, I am sure the dialogue would
be gripping: "Oook." "eeeOOOWwwwWWl." (that's the sound I always
imagined Greebo to make) "Oook." "Yowwwel?" "Eeek."
Later,
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In article <729862...@unseen.demon.co.uk> tprat...@unseen.demon.co.uk writes:
> The end of Mort -- The Big Comic is distantly in view. So I've been
>spending a few evenings wandering around \Pit (where all the notes, failed
>starts and other stuff gets dumped). The next Discworld book I'd _like_ to
>write'd be set in Ankh, involve the three witches -- I'm sure Granny Weatherwax
>can dragoon some poor unsuspecting girl now that Magrat is queening it -- and
>the Phantom of the Opera _and_ Mozart.
Well, if the witches will be in Ankh, and you need a third witch,
how about something I've been wondering about for a while now--namely,
whatever happened to Esk? She got into U.U. at the end of the third
book, and hasn't been seen since...shouldn't she have graduated by
now?
> Or I've got some notes here which I keep
>adding to for a plot involving Mort's daughter (after all, he's been married
>since the end of the 4th book!)
Re-visiting Mort would be interesting...especially as the end of
_Mort_ made some comment as to how history required that he unify all
the kingdoms in that part of the disk--seems like an opportunity for
some Maastricht jokes. :-)
> But I get the _impression_ that the world
>wants another Rincewind book.
Nah. Rincewind isn't really suited to your later style, I don't
think. Too madcap, and fundamentally anti-plot...unless of course you
can make it work, in which case go right ahead.
> In the pit of the night it's all down to what I
>decide, not a committee...but what would YOU do, boys and girls?
Well, I've given my opinions on your specific comments--but I agree
with the other posters who've said that a new character (and a new
*setting*--Ankh-Morpork is as much a continuing character as any of
the people or people-like characters, and seeing it too often wears
ever so slightly). _Pyramids_ and _Small Gods_ were the last two
really all-new books--give us something like that, only completely
different, of course.
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Chris Phillips
life left in him. Maybe even bring back Two-flower.
My .002 ducats.
Chris
Edward Julian Craft
Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk writes:
>...but what would YOU do, boys and girls?
i) Not have ALL of the book in A-M, have an adventure crossing
most of the disk that ends up in A-M ?
ii) If Rincewind returns then he needs to have changed in some
way. There was a good progression from the end of TLF ( he's a
hero ) to Sourcery ( I think it was ) where he was Assistant
Librarian. BTW - If Rincewind is Assistant Librarian, who's the
Assistant Assistant Librarian ? The mind boggles.
iii) Bring back Mort + Ysabel, even if only in a cameo. Would a
descendent of the two have some truck with Death being a
step-grandfather ?
iv) Avoid having too many previous characters in walk on parts.
Only Death, Binky, Mended Drum etc. have a REASON to recurr so
often.
v) Go for the record for the longest ever footnote.
vi) Bring back the counterweight continent, but not Twoflower !
The idea of a SPY with unlimited wealth trying to remain
inconspicuous in A-M pleases me.
vii) Use Kirby for the first edition but not reprints ( or vice
versa ).
viii) Avoid the politics of Unseen University for a few books.
The City of a Thousand Surprises must have more to it than a
watch and a Uni.
ix) I've just realised what all my favourite books have in
common - a specific, two person dual at the end of the book !
x) A mention of us lot in the dedication (and a special message
for any of us that make it to book signings.)
Edward.
Any and all of these ideas are offered to TP unconditionally -
I waive any right to them. ( Except being able to tell my daughter
-when she's older - that I helped ).
Suggestion (x) would be nice, though !
Andy Holyer
>>decide, not a committee...but what would YOU do, boys and girls?
>
> I want to see a book where Greebo and the Librarian team up. The ol'
> take out the best characters and give them their own show type of deal
> :-)
>
> Something that gets away from what you seem to have been doing in the
> more recent books (like Moving Pictures, Witches Abroad, etc), namely
> weaving the plot around altered mundanity, and go back to stuff that
> could ONLY happen on the Discworld.
>
> Personally, I'd like to see Great A'Tuin used a little more actively.
> :-)
>
What about the Frost Giants? I always liked that joke.....
But seriously: I'd vote for a "new reality, new characters" book rather than a
"yet another episode in the continuing story.." one. There's still lots of
bits of the ancient workd yet to be used, which I can't suggest, becaust
we all know Terry doesn't like those sorts of suggestions.....
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Vos MC
What's wrong with the nice plotless stories? I think TCoM is still my
favorite. A return of Rincewind would be great. And luggage.
But it has to be done right. No they-want-Rincewind-so-I-write-about-
Rincewind-book. Wait for the inspiration to do it. I can wait.
As long as I have a diskworld book to read in the mean time.
There were a few guys saying that you should make more new characters.
The problem with that is that every new character needs something
that makes him different and new. This is very likely to go wrong
after a dozen of new characters. (I can give hundreds of examples
here, but I don't want to spoil bandwith.)
Keeping the old ones new enough to write a story about can often do
the trick. But not too new ofcourse. Keeping them the same might be
working in a plotless story. Just don't overdo it, or it might get
silly. (And we don't want that to happen with Diskworld, do we?)
On the other hand...
Never mind. Just do what you like. It usualy turns out pretty good.
ps: more Death.
Greetings,
mcv
Hugh D.R. Evans (ESA/ESTEC/WMA Netherlands)
|>From: Edward Julian Craft <e.j....@aston.ac.uk>
|>Subject: Re: Next book
|>Organization: Aston University
|>Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1993 10:03:44 GMT
|>
|>In article <729862...@unseen.demon.co.uk> Terry Pratchett,
|>
|>vi) Bring back the counterweight continent, but not Twoflower !
|>The idea of a SPY with unlimited wealth trying to remain
|>inconspicuous in A-M pleases me.
|>
I agree about the CWC. Twoflower was (is) a fun little chap, though.
Perhaps something along the lines of the counterweight continent exporting
too much to A-M causing a shift in the DiscWorld balance. Redistribution
of Elephants and the possibility of A'Tuin being turned on his back.
Just a thought.
Regards,
Hugh Evans
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Hugh D.R. Evans (ESA/ESTEC/WMA Netherlands)
|>
|>ps: more Death.
|>
Are you volunteering to be a victim? :*)
Regards,
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worse each succeeding day was.
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Katherine C Long
i.e. the Guilds, the UU, religions, goverment, law makers
and breakers and keepers, mercenaries and witches, actors, nobility
and small business people, etc. I'd like to read about more
of these institutes.
The Ramtops are fun, and it very nice to see more of Nanny
Ogg's family, but I'd also like to see the sea - how about a
book set in a fishing village? I'd also like to read a
story about a vet, a sort of DW "All Creatures Great and
Small"!
Katherine Long 8-)
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Michael Peter Berzonsky
approval, if they want to give it.
If Terry wants to write another witches book, and something on
Mort's daughter, seems to me the two ideas could be combined.
After all, little Morticia should be somewhere in the 15 to 18
year old range, and if she's occultly inclined, in search of a
coven, and lo, Mistress Weatherwax & Nanny Ogg have an opening.
Or, what ever happened to Esk?
Totally off the subject, this came to me last night. Terry's
covered tons of stuff, but other than metamorphizing tapes in
Good Omens, little on Rock n Roll. Since he's a fan of TMBG,
maybe a dwarvish rock band, "No, We Really Are Dwarves." Since
rock is so central to dwarf life, it makes sense to me that
they'd have a band, although I understand that rich dwarves
hire trolls to bang on anvils, so maybe Detrius could be the
percussion section. And Dibbler could be their manager. No,
better, Gaspode the Wonder Dog. And finding the references to
the last forty years of music could be a blast. Just an idea.
I'd like to see Rincewind again (and luggage too), but don't
know in what way. I guess the main thing is that I'd like to
see another book, or failing that, Small Gods, Eric, and Lords
and Ladies released on this side of the pond.
That's about it for now.
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> married since the end of the 4th book!)
> but what would YOU do, boys and girls?
Hmm, perhabs put Mort's daughter and Rincewind together... Let both have
children perhabs... Every one of his sons becomes a "catastrophy-of-a-wizard"
like Rincewind always war and as we have learned, the 8th son of a wizard is a
"wizard squared". In case of a son of Rincewind, this one probably won't be "a
source of magic", but "a source of
things-that-make-wizards-shake-their-heads-in-desperation"...
Even though - I wouldn't mind if you drop Rincewind and get some other
characters into action again. How about Pteppic?
bye,
Benedikt
Chris Camfield
>Totally off the subject, this came to me last night. Terry's
>covered tons of stuff, but other than metamorphizing tapes in
>Good Omens, little on Rock n Roll. Since he's a fan of TMBG,
>maybe a dwarvish rock band, "No, We Really Are Dwarves." Since
>rock is so central to dwarf life, it makes sense to me that
>they'd have a band, although I understand that rich dwarves
>hire trolls to bang on anvils, so maybe Detrius could be the
>percussion section. And Dibbler could be their manager. No,
>better, Gaspode the Wonder Dog. And finding the references to
>the last forty years of music could be a blast. Just an idea.
Huh? The only word (or practically so) in Dwarvish (Dwarven) music
is "gold", as I recall (from WS) ... not much in the way of repetoire
there. *grin*
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Terry Pratchett (Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk) wrote:
TP>since the end of the 4th book!) But I get the _impression_ that the world
TP>wants another Rincewind book. In the pit of the night it's all down to what I
TP>decide, not a committee...but what would YOU do, boys and girls?
Hm, i *would* like another Rincewind book, but on the other side, I liked
most those books with new ideas & characters, eg Pyramids and Moving
Pictures - so if there are well-known characters, the book should not be
based on them alone !
cu
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I agree with whoever back there said they wanted to know what happened to
Esk. It seemed that she graduated and left the disc or something, because
no mention of female wizards ever creeped up again... it would be interesting
maybe to put her in the same boat with the other two witches and get some
magic ethics confliction.
I have no idea how you might do it, but if Twoflower could come back into
play it would be really amusing. After all, theme parks and tourist traps
are more fun the second time around, and I'm sure he hasn't seen all
one thousand and one surprises... I used to use TF as a character on a
round-robinish storyboard on a local BBS, and we can enormous amounts of
fun answering this one question : What REALLY is inside Luggage? We
deducted it was a really twisted place called Twoflower's Plane of Thought,
but that seems a bit silly in hindisght... I'm in the states and haven't
read Eric, thus don't know where Luggage is now, in case I'm making a
mistake and something happened to it.
Anyway, rincewind and the witches have been a bit overused... I dunno, I
think I'm the oNLY person on earth who wasn't real impressed with WA.
I think Rincewind deserves a break... if he is used, maybe marry him off
and reward him for the living hell he's gone through? Mort's daughter,
perhaps, if we must include tons of throwbacks...
I also agree that new characters are a must, they're a joy in all the
books. Maybe a mix would work best.
Anyway, that's been misc. Twoflower-biased rantings from...
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>
> In article <729862...@unseen.demon.co.uk>, Ter...@unseen.demon.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:
> |> wants another Rincewind book. In the pit of the night it's all down to what I
> |> decide, not a committee...but what would YOU do, boys and girls?
>
> what I'd _not_ like: No more Rincewind books! No more Weatherwax stuff! They
> were great, they were hilarious, and I know that 'the reader' (whatever that's
> supposed to be) likes to read what (s)he already knows, about know characters
> with known behaviour patterns.
> Speaking for myself, not the hypothetical 'average reader', what I always liked
> about the Discworld series was that it continued having fresh ideas, not treading
> the same old mill over and over again. IMHO that's what's gone wrong with the
> Hitchhiker's Guide ... somewhere in the third book it got stale.
Well, I've got to add a qualified agreement here. I won't go so far as
to say I wouldn't buy another Rincewind, Granny, or other sequel-type
book (you've got to be kidding! I'd buy ANY TP book!) but I would
prefer to see a fresh cast of primary characters.
Mike Kerstetter
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Don Sanderson
"The Luggage"
I can't get the image of a Granny Weatherwax-Luggage scene out of my
head. I have a feeling of something along the lines of the Yoda-R2D2
scene, but MUCH funnier, and I still can't figure which one would win
an argument.
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previously mentioned) I'd most certainly love another Rincewind book. And
especially the Luggage. As a frequent traveller, I believe your Luggage
is based on my Luggage has been to many wonderful places that I've never
seen :)
Moof,
Eric
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richard vowles
> decide, not a committee...but what would YOU do, boys and girls?
I think its really time to take a big chunk out of The Sound Of Music.
But, whatever you write, it will be funny (no doubt), and a good read
besides. You should write what you feel like writing, what you are inspired
to write. I'm sure we'll all throughly enjoy it!
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>
> The end of Mort -- The Big Comic is distantly in view. So I've been
>spending a few evenings wandering around \Pit (where all the notes, failed
>starts and other stuff gets dumped). The next Discworld book I'd _like_ to
>write'd be set in Ankh, involve the three witches -- I'm sure Granny
>Weatherwax can dragoon some poor unsuspecting girl now that Magrat is
>notes here which I keep adding to for a plot involving Mort's daughter (after
>all, he's been married since the end of the 4th book!) But I get the
>_impression_ that the world wants another Rincewind book. In the pit of the
>night it's all down to what I decide, not a committee...but what would YOU
>do, boys and girls?
(Warning: the following sentence contains an annoying Merkinism, or at least a
phrase that the great sages of alt.usage.english tell us is an annoying
Merkinism; stylistically sensitive Brits be warned.) I could care less
whether we ever see Rincewind again. The witches have much more panache. And
any descendant of Mort and Ysabell would have to be interesting.
BTW, while the perennial flamewar is still raging, let me also note that I
hate the Kirby covers with a passion only equalled by my sentiments towards
Brussels sprouts. They seem more appropriate for books based on a children's
animated TV series than for the Discworld novels.
(Let's see, what's $0.02 in pence at yesterday's London closing rate....)
Seth L. Blumberg \ "So they used a micrometer on her thumbnail. . . .
sl...@columbia.edu (play) \ Once again, fear and superstition triumphed over
se...@ctr.columbia.edu (work) \ science and technology."
> No one I know shares my opinions, least of all Columbia University. <
Phil Anderson
> wants another Rincewind book. In the pit of the night it's all down
> to what I decide, not a committee...but what would YOU do, boys
> and girls?
"Around the Disc in 80 Days". New characters, new settings.
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>
>(Warning: the following sentence contains an annoying Merkinism, or at least a
>phrase that the great sages of alt.usage.english tell us is an annoying
>Merkinism; stylistically sensitive Brits be warned.) I could care less
Oh, fine! Now they'll all subscribe to a.u.e to see if they can find out
what a Merkin is!
>(Let's see, what's $0.02 in pence at yesterday's London closing rate....)
Tuppence ha'penny, I should think!
--jm
"JEEZ!" Don't you people have a LIFE?" rsholmes, somewhere, somewhen. . .
Martijn Evers
wizards around Ridcully, They could be in the next book.
I also would like to see some new characters, or some who did not have major
parts like Urn(whould he finally make his Iron Horse(Copper Camel, he'd
probably call it).
We could finally meet Lin Ty Weedle or Howandaland Smith.
By the way the whole story could take place in Howandaland, where the bizons
roam the octarine grass country etc. We could finally see the tribe One-Man-
Bucket belonged to.
There are lot of new leads a DW book can follow, who do not have to take place
in A-M or Lancre.
Thats all folks DM(Unseen).
I torture sig.'s till they scream.
Bert van Corler
|>
|> What's wrong with the nice plotless stories? I think TCoM is still my
|> favorite. A return of Rincewind would be great. And luggage.
|> But it has to be done right. No they-want-Rincewind-so-I-write-about-
|> Rincewind-book. Wait for the inspiration to do it. I can wait.
|> As long as I have a diskworld book to read in the mean time.
|>
become a Diskworld addict. And there is no reason why the Rincewind-
character should go stale (nor the witches, for that matter), not with the
nearly infinite fantasy of someone like Terry. This does not mean that there
is no room for new characters, but there is the risk of course that they
will be getting to look like each other, more or less.
Wel. let's let Terry do his thing and see what comes of it. I like to be
surprised and he certainly is someone who can do that.
Just my f 0.02
BvC
Richard Salter
> covered tons of stuff, but other than metamorphizing tapes in
> Good Omens, little on Rock n Roll. Since he's a fan of TMBG,
> maybe a dwarvish rock band, "No, We Really Are Dwarves." Since
> rock is so central to dwarf life, it makes sense to me that
> they'd have a band, although I understand that rich dwarves
> hire trolls to bang on anvils, so maybe Detrius could be the
> percussion section. And Dibbler could be their manager. No,
> better, Gaspode the Wonder Dog. And finding the references to
> the last forty years of music could be a blast. Just an idea.
Great idea. Personally I think a take off of the Commitments would
be terrific. Dibbler would make a great manager, the three witches
could be the backing singers, Death playing Joey the Lips, the
Luggage on percussion (he's got so many limbs!), and someone big
like Detritus taking Andrew Strong's place (bet he's got a gravelly
voice :-)
Sorry, back in the real world, I'd love to see a story that features
the luggage attaching itself to a new owner, a completely new
character, who really doesn't want it. It insists on being owned
however. Could lead to some interesting dialogue. Oh yeah, and it
must be called "One Man and His Luggage"!
Lastly, I'd agree with the general idea of staying away from
Rincewind for a while, though his books tend to be the funniest
IMHO.
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Jens Dykow
>In article <1993Feb17....@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> mp...@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Michael Peter Berzonsky) writes:
>>Totally off the subject, this came to me last night. Terry's
>>covered tons of stuff, but other than metamorphizing tapes in
>>Good Omens, little on Rock n Roll. Since he's a fan of TMBG,
>>maybe a dwarvish rock band, "No, We Really Are Dwarves." Since
>>rock is so central to dwarf life, it makes sense to me that
>>they'd have a band, although I understand that rich dwarves
>>hire trolls to bang on anvils, so maybe Detrius could be the
>>percussion section. And Dibbler could be their manager. No,
>>better, Gaspode the Wonder Dog. And finding the references to
>>the last forty years of music could be a blast. Just an idea.
>Huh? The only word (or practically so) in Dwarvish (Dwarven) music
>is "gold", as I recall (from WS) ... not much in the way of repetoire
>there. *grin*
See? You've found the first reference to modern music in no time at all!
Jens
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Jens Dykow
> wants another Rincewind book. In the pit of the night it's all down
> to what I decide, not a committee...but what would YOU do, boys
> and girls?
Granny would be great! (I'm still hoping for an argument between
Greebo and Granny)
Jens
Rich 'mcmxciibo' Holmes
always my favorite... and since none of the cover artists know how to
draw them. Whoops. Wrong thread.
But seriously -- after Witches Abroad and Lords and Ladies, I think
another witches book would be too soon. (You *are* going to have the
next book done by Tuesday, right?)
Here are some characters I could stand to see a lot more of. Keep in
mind I haven't seen Small Gods yet.
- Someone new (Mort's daughter?)
- Carrot
- Rincewind
- Jason Ogg
- the rest of the Lancre Morris Men
- Detritus
- Eskarina
And how come we never again see the Counterweight Continent?
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- Rich "mcmxciibo" Holmes
"Grown men, he told himself, in flat contradiction of centuries of
accumulated evidence about the way grown men behave, do not behave
like this." -- Douglas Adams
Graham King
>
> Huh? The only word (or practically so) in Dwarvish (Dwarven) music
> is "gold", as I recall (from WS) ... not much in the way of repetoire
> there. *grin*
Ah, so they're into heavy metal?
Justin Yes actually Sarcasm is my middle name Otto
works of Lovecraft.
There is a massive amount of P-potential.
If any of you have ever read alt.cthulu (or something like that) you will
see what I mean.
Laugh? I nearly bought a gerbil...
It is a wonderful, half-arsed collection of trash.
The world is surrounded by Elder Gods and Supremely evil beings who will
bring about the end of the world should they wake.
Yeah, right.
What is worse is that people believe in that stuff.
I'm sorry Terry, much as I like your work.. and I subscribed to this newsgroup
to hear any more info on books etc. I do not believe in the Discworld as a real
place.
The same could not be said of the Lovecraft Fans. Wierd is not the word.
Their division between reality and fantasy is gone, dude.
Anyone who can hold a conversation on nasty things under the ground with
several hundred syllables in their names is a quite possibly not all there.
In fact, anyone who can remember the several hundred syllables is in pretty
dodgy ground.
I think that this is a apple ripe for plucking.
Parody abounds.
*grin* Sic 'em Pterry.
J.
"Lasty night I had a dream. I shot an elephant in my pajamas. What it was doing
in my pajamas, I don't know..." - The Great Groucho Marx.
Erik Bunn
>The world is surrounded by Elder Gods and Supremely evil beings who will
>bring about the end of the world should they wake.
>Yeah, right.
>What is worse is that people believe in that stuff.
Umm.. as far as I know, NOT! Admitted, there may be people who do, somewhere,
but then there are people who believe in just about anything (even
millenia old collections of religious tales or worlds carried by
elephants and turtles...)
But acting like you believed sort of belongs to the style set by
the author, doesn't it? The ultimate bleakness and pessimism of the
Cthulhu world has an appeal of its own, and the attempt to place it in the
real world is part of the effect. A nice counterweight for Diskworld
stories.
>I'm sorry Terry, much as I like your work.. and I subscribed to this newsgroup
>to hear any more info on books etc. I do not believe in the Discworld as a real
>place.
>The same could not be said of the Lovecraft Fans. Wierd is not the word.
>Their division between reality and fantasy is gone, dude.
I hope this is some form of irony that never got a real chance =). Too
tired to tell..
>Personally. in my 2p's worth for today. I'd like to see a parody of the Cthulu
>works of Lovecraft.
>There is a massive amount of P-potential.
This I agree with, however. Although I think the Dungeon Dimensions and
various gods already do a good job..
Erik aka Not Really a Cthulhu Fan
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Eccles
> Rincewind!!!!!!!!! Luggage!!!!!!!!!!! I think Rincewind has a lot of
>life left in him. Maybe even bring back Two-flower.
Twoflower left with style and grace.
Leave him be.
Eccles
Throatwobbler Mangrove
hmmm.... almost everybody seems to have written about this topic, so, why
shouldnt I?! :)
Dear Santa Claus,
I would like to have a book about the music and film industries, companies, on
/in DiscWorld/Ankh-Mopork.
:)
Please, flame me now.
Alan Hughes
> The one character I would really like to see brought back, is
> "The Luggage"
> I can't get the image of a Granny Weatherwax-Luggage scene out of my
yes, Yes, YES.
Something along the lines of an irresistable force meeting an immovable
object - something funny has got to happen.
Please, please can we have this some time, oh High and Mightly Writer of
The DW.
> head. I have a feeling of something along the lines of the Yoda-R2D2
> scene, but MUCH funnier, and I still can't figure which one would win
> an argument.
>
>
>
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>
> I'm from the states - so the list of books I've read only includes
> those that the @#$@!@# publisher has brought across the Atlantic.
> Until Reaper Man, one of the main things I liked about Pratchett's
> books was that each one was about a brand new set of characters (as a
> generalization) and they all were located in different places. In short,
> there was a great deal of variety so the series never got dull. Sure,
> Death appeared in every book and the librarian in almost every one -
> but they only had a major role in one book each. Rincewind actually
> was the major exception to this rule - he also appeared in Sorcery.
> (I'm lumping The Color of Magic and The Light Fantastic together,
> and remember - go ahead and gloat - a certain 4-letter book hasn't
> appeared in the states yet!) Granny Wetherwax is the only other
> exception I can think of.
> Some troubling signs were evident in Moving Pictures - Throat, Cobb,
> Nobby, and Detrius all reappeared, but they had either been very minor
> characters and were now major, or vice versa. The real worrying book
> was Reaper Man, where Ridcully was the first archchancellor to second
> into his second book, while Varoni, Cobb, Windle Poons, Throat, and
> others all reappeared again. It seemed like Terry Pratchett had given up
> creating new characters and was recycling old ones. (Yes, I know there
> were some new characters as well.) Witches Abroad was another
> disappointment in that respect, since the three main characters were
> also the three main characters of Wyrd Sisters. And it seems like it is
> only going to get worse, since Eric, Lords and Ladies, and Men at Arms
> are all going to reuse main characters.
> So, in short, how about a story that features a new group of characters
> (such as Pyramids - the only duplication is Death)? Not that I dislike
> the old characters - I just always like to see new ones.
>
> -Chris Page
> pa...@student.physics.upenn.edu
You must remember that Wyrd Sisters, Witches Abroad, and Lords and Ladies are
infact a trilogy, thus requiring the same main characters to appear.
If you really want to read about new characters, then I suggest you try
Small Gods, which is set in entirely a different place on the DW.
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|>
|> Totally off the subject, this came to me last night. Terry's
|> covered tons of stuff, but other than metamorphizing tapes in
|> Good Omens, little on Rock n Roll. Since he's a fan of TMBG,
|> maybe a dwarvish rock band, "No, We Really Are Dwarves." Since
|> rock is so central to dwarf life, it makes sense to me that
|> they'd have a band, although I understand that rich dwarves
|> hire trolls to bang on anvils, so maybe Detrius could be the
|> percussion section. And Dibbler could be their manager. No,
|> better, Gaspode the Wonder Dog. And finding the references to
|> the last forty years of music could be a blast. Just an idea.
Yes! A Discworld heavy metal band! You've done it with film, now how about
guitar technology? (how about a thousand demons in a box yelling, for an amp?)
And think of the names you could give the bands...
Smouldering Boot of Punishment?
Irun Broom?
Blinde Puzuma?
Swords & Violets?
or how about... Wyld Unycorns? Yes, the Discworld's very own Bill and Ted...
Excellent!
I think the Librarian would make a far better percussion section - he can hold 4
sticks...
and by the way, has anybody noticed, the thing in Wyrd Sisters about the Fool
sleeping outside the Duke's room and the axe falling just beside his head bears a
certain resemblance to the bit in Gormenghast where Flay has to sleep outside
_his_ master's room and Swelter comes after him with an axe? Terry? We know
you've used Gormenghast before...
jim
"I'm outta luck
Outta love
Got a photograph
Picture of"
d...@vax.oxford.ac.uk
of a wish...
Wouldn't it be nice to see a Discworld adventure set in Howondaland? Like
Pyramids, it could introduce a whole new set of characters, plus any old friends
who might be passing through. We've seen nothing of it since Mbo and the
kilopachydermatists. And there are so many ingredients just waiting to be used:
H.Rider-Haggard, Tarzan, Jock of the Bushveld, some of Kipling, Baden-Powell,
etc, etc, etc.
Maybe Ridcully could go on safari, big game hunting?
But I'm not going to complain, even if no new characters are ever created, even
if Rincewind never finds boredom, even if we never find out what Eskarina grows
up like. I will complain if Small Gods doesn't come out in paperback soon! I
can't buy it in hardback, because it would spoil the first matched set of books
(with Kirby covers) that I've ever managed to collect ;-)
With a Thousand Elephants!!!!!
M. du Plessis
Rincewind alias Michael Schwingen
Michael Peter Berzonsky (mp...@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
MPB>rock is so central to dwarf life, it makes sense to me that
MPB>they'd have a band, although I understand that rich dwarves
MPB>hire trolls to bang on anvils, so maybe Detrius could be the
MPB>percussion section. And Dibbler could be their manager. No,
MPB>better, Gaspode the Wonder Dog. And finding the references to
MPB>the last forty years of music could be a blast. Just an idea.
Hm - that might become a whole book, when the discworld discovers the
phonograph :-)
What would be the discworld equivalent of techno music ?
However, it would have to be a good bit different from moving pictures,
with much new elements and a good plot, otherwise it might simply become a
bad moving pictures follow-up.
Michael Holt
Terry, just a thought but:-
What about creating some more characters, ala Discworld The Next Generation?
You could have son-of-hrun, Granny WeatherWax could marry her wizard and the
children could form the main cast??
I personally loved Windle Poons. Maybe he could be brought back in spirit
form to give guidance to the new hero(ine) a kind of dash of obi-wan-kenobe
(spelling?).
This will still give you room to continue with the Old DW style while develop
ing a new more 'high-tech' version of the DW.
Then again, you could kill the new DW off at the end, along the lines of the
'trousers' of time, alternate reality etc.
Alternatively:-
One of your undisputed talents is to breathe life into normal one dimensional
beings (such as the librarian and Oook!). What about one of your characters
and a few of your ODB's (such as the luggage? death of rats? whatever) experi
menting with the trousers of time, slipping into an alternate universe (such as
ours) and then on return trying to start a large corporation to invent and
patent most of the stuff they saw and used on thier travels? (but using the
DW's current technology).
(Please don't flame me too much if you think this is a crap idea!)
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Donal K. Fellows
Terry, just a thought but:-
What about creating some more characters, ala Discworld The Next
Generation? You could have son-of-hrun, Granny WeatherWax could
marry her wizard and the children could form the main cast??
Not sure about this...
I personally loved Windle Poons. Maybe he could be brought back in
spirit form to give guidance to the new hero(ine) a kind of dash of
obi-wan-kenobe (spelling?).
A take off of Star Wars is long overdue! :)
Then again, you could kill the new DW off at the end, along the
lines of the 'trousers' of time, alternate reality etc.
Only if it is insanely funny. We don't want any of the boring
discussions from alt.fan.douglas-adams in this group, thank you.
Alternatively:-
One of your undisputed talents is to breathe life into normal one
dimensional beings (such as the librarian and Oook!). What about
one of your characters and a few of your ODB's (such as the
luggage? death of rats? whatever) experimenting with the trousers
of time, slipping into an alternate universe (such as ours) and
then on return trying to start a large corporation to invent and
patent most of the stuff they saw and used on thier travels? (but
using the DW's current technology).
Too complicated. The Luggage doesn't have the kind of temprament
needed... :)
Donal.
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(On diskworld rock bands...)
Jefferson Swamp Dragon. Couldn't resist it.
Ye Watche.
Krnaskiudfhseudjche (A dwarvish term roughly translating as "Soft dark
material in the halls beneath the mountain)
(No, I don't think that one's very good either, but it shows
promise).
Dark Hogswatchnight.
Um.. Um... I'm desperately trying to think of one for Led Zeppelin, but
inspiration totally eludes me. Anyone?
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Laura Johnson
>
> Um.. Um... I'm desperately trying to think of one for Led Zeppelin, but
> inspiration totally eludes me. Anyone?
>
>
>
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Daniel R Barlow
>Personally.. in my 2p's worth for today.I'd like to see a parody of the Cthulu
>works of Lovecraft.
>
>There is a massive amount of P-potential.
So write it yourself :-). I'd like to see Terry produce original work, as
he always does. Parody is a very easy form of writing (it's the only
one *I* can come near to managing, for a start...)
I'd also like to see you to set your line length to <80 characters.
What's the problem, you don't want people to be able to follow up your
articles?
Daniel
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Pete Deglopper
>ii) If Rincewind returns then he needs to have changed in some
>way. There was a good progression from the end of TLF ( he's a
>hero ) to Sourcery ( I think it was ) where he was Assistant
>Librarian. BTW - If Rincewind is Assistant Librarian, who's the
>Assistant Assistant Librarian ? The mind boggles.
Probably Whuffles. As I recall he got on pretty well with the Librarian in
Sourcery.
>vi) Bring back the counterweight continent, but not Twoflower !
>The idea of a SPY with unlimited wealth trying to remain
>inconspicuous in A-M pleases me.
Weell...how about a book featuring the Thieves Guild? Maybe some
renegade new leader gets tired of the quota system...
Oo, mix ideas - have one of the thieves (somehow) steal the Telenecronomicon,
and end up having the pseudo-Lovecraftian aspects.
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>spending a few evenings wandering around \Pit (where all the notes, failed
>starts and other stuff gets dumped). The next Discworld book I'd _like_ to
>write'd be set in Ankh, involve the three witches -- I'm sure Granny Weatherwax
>can dragoon some poor unsuspecting girl now that Magrat is queening it -- and
>the Phantom of the Opera _and_ Mozart. Or I've got some notes here which I keep
>adding to for a plot involving Mort's daughter (after all, he's been married
>since the end of the 4th book!) But I get the _impression_ that the world
>decide, not a committee...but what would YOU do, boys and girls?
>
Personally I'd beg for another Rincewind book *8^>
Gav
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>
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>the same old mill over and over again. IMHO that's what's gone wrong with the
>Hitchhiker's Guide ... somewhere in the third book it got stale.
>
Thats got more to do with DNA than the storyline I think, he seems to keep
writing the HHGTTG books purely for other people who keep asking for another...
If you subscribed to a.f.douglas-adams (I *THINK* thats it) you would hear
all the people whinging about how the new one isn't up to the standards of the
old ones, but lets have another that is...
He gets forced to write the new ones I think, and thats why they seem stale...
Hey, just my #0.02 worth, ignore at will...
>Soenke
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rsho...@mothra.syr.edu (Rich 'mcmxciibo' Holmes) writes:
>Here are some characters I could stand to see a lot more of. Keep in
>mind I haven't seen Small Gods yet.
>
>- Detritus
Aren't they coming up in Men at Arms?
>- Jason Ogg
>- the rest of the Lancre Morris Men
Come on, you just got Lords and Ladies, and already you want *more*
Morris?
(Silly question, I know.)
>- Eskarina
She heads my "Whatever happened to...?" list. I'd really like to find
out how things went for her.
>- Rincewind
Somehow, I never really got the hang of Rincewind.
>And how come we never again see the Counterweight Continent?
We did once, didn't we? In Mort?
Actually, I find the continual absense of the Counterweight Continent
somewhat reassuring; as long as Terry never writes about it, I know
that there's a whole continent of the Discworld that he hasn't gotten
to yet.
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Ann Feeney
> The end of Mort -- The Big Comic is distantly in view. So I've been
>spending a few evenings wandering around \Pit (where all the notes, failed
>starts and other stuff gets dumped). The next Discworld book I'd _like_ to
>write'd be set in Ankh, involve the three witches -- I'm sure Granny Weatherwax
>can dragoon some poor unsuspecting girl now that Magrat is queening it -- and
>the Phantom of the Opera _and_ Mozart. Or I've got some notes here which I keep
>adding to for a plot involving Mort's daughter (after all, he's been married
>since the end of the 4th book!) But I get the _impression_ that the world
>wants another Rincewind book. In the pit of the night it's all down to what I
>decide, not a committee...but what would YOU do, boys and girls?
>
>Terry
_I_ want more of the three witches--I think my favorite TP books are Wyrd
Sisters and Witches Abroad, with Mort and Equal Rites as close seconds.
I'd _love_, however, to see Granny Weatherwax meet the Luggage!
Talk about the Clash of the Titans...
"I liked that bak'ry as it was,
"But now their bread is growing fuzz!"
Miss Crocker
Ann F.
Stewart J. Stremler
:
: She heads my "Whatever happened to...?" list. I'd really like to find
: out how things went for her.
Me too. But being a _poor_ american, I have to wait for everything anyway. I
can wait to find out.... (I'd rather get an *awesome* story in five years than
a shoddy one in five months.)
: >- Rincewind
:
: Somehow, I never really got the hang of Rincewind.
Well, he runs away a lot. :-)
I suppose I sympathize with him, because before I had *ever* heard of Terry
Pratchett, I was playing "Rogue" on my Amiga. Of all my college friends and
roommates, my strategy (when in trouble) was to "Run Away".
I got teased extensively about this...but I averaged a better game than anyone
else; and I was most often called upon to extract others from, er, sticky
situations....
(Of course, you can see why I bought every DW book I could lay my hands on
once I had read TCOM and TLF...)
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Peter Vamplew
More about the Assassin's Guild. The early chapters of Pyramids were
great, and I think there's a lot of potential to be explored there
(just don't steal any ideas from the assassins and secret societies
story that I'm working on (Pterry seems to have a habit of doing that
to myself and friends - everytime we come up with a good idea or joke it
turns out that he's already written it in something we haven't read yet.
We're considering suing him for reverse chronological plagiarism)).
Also more appearances by Urdo Van Pew, head of the Thieves Guild. A great
name even if it is spelt incorrectly!
--
Peter Vamplew Dept of Computer Science, Uni of Tasmania
"The second hand moves very quickly, the minute hand moves
a bit more slowly, and the hour hand moves not much at all"
- results of a time and motion study by Reg the Slayer
Andy Holyer
>This isn't a suggestion (I wouldn't want to annoy people), just the expression
>of a wish...
>
>Wouldn't it be nice to see a Discworld adventure set in Howondaland? Like
>Pyramids, it could introduce a whole new set of characters, plus any old friends
>who might be passing through. We've seen nothing of it since Mbo and the
>kilopachydermatists. And there are so many ingredients just waiting to be used:
>H.Rider-Haggard, Tarzan, Jock of the Bushveld, some of Kipling, Baden-Powell,
>etc, etc, etc.
>
a book set in Tsort yet. Now working on the "Ephebe == Athens" principle,
we can therefore predict that "All roads lead to Tsort", and that "When
in Tsort, do as the Tsorteans do".
Now, there's a world of possible sources here. "I Claudius" springs to
mind. We haven't had a character with a *really* juicy speech defect for
a while. Not to mention Caligula....
Ben Hur! The Arena (now, boys and girls, who is it that we just *know* is
going to going to end up in the arena....?)
Last days of Pompeii.... The possibilities are endless. And we haven't
even brought in Atlantis yet.....
:-)
Colin MacDonald
> The witches...oh, my fingers itch when I think of what
>Nanny Ogg could get up to in an opera. On the other hand, I might write the
>one I didn't tell you about...
Awww go on... Actually, as soon as I read this bit, I wondered what
Nanny would do at a ballet... Remember the Foster's ad with Paul Hogan
at a ballet from a number of years back (in the UK at least...) ? As
for ideas for another book, it might be nice to have well developed
characters meeting up - not just include one as a bit part, but get a
few of them together (Pteppic, Vimes, Eskarina, etc.) to join in as
equal stars. It saves having to invent so much character style and you
can fit a story round them much easier 'cos you know exactly what they
are like. Oh, and Death too...
>This little Ted editor is amazing for 3k! I've learned to use it!
Next thing you'll be writing with Big Ted and Jemima!
Colin
--
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......... cmac @ castle.ed.ac.uk
G.P. Sereno
another flirt with modern day earth. How about a parody on computer hackers
and BBS's, with the main character being a student at some mythical university,
and the existance of some 'World Ending' plot, which he stumbles on through
hacking.
(Well it was only an idea, and it could always be set on a future DW)
An alternative to this, could be an apprentice druid on the DW, learning how NOT
to use the weather predicting computers, or evan a druidic billboard.
Carbonated commendations Neilski
My opinions: (haven't read SG or LaL yet)
- New characters would be best of all. I wasn't too keen on recycling
minor characters into something different (Throat changed too much,
Windle Poons - OK, it's such a brilliant name that I'll let you off)
- I like the music idea, but it would be in danger of becoming like
Moving Pictures (new technology hits the Disc) or Wyrd Sisters
(travelling players) if you're not careful.
- Esk? Would that mean another not-zany and not-wacky DW book? Eurrgh! :-)
-- neilski
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> (Justin Yes actually Sarcasm is my middle name Otto) writes:
>
>
> >The world is surrounded by Elder Gods and Supremely evil beings who will
> >bring about the end of the world should they wake.
>
> >Yeah, right.
>
> >What is worse is that people believe in that stuff.
>
>
> Umm.. as far as I know, NOT! Admitted, there may be people who do, somewhere,
> but then there are people who believe in just about anything (even
> millenia old collections of religious tales or worlds carried by
> elephants and turtles...)
>
> But acting like you believed sort of belongs to the style set by
> the author, doesn't it? The ultimate bleakness and pessimism of the
> Cthulhu world has an appeal of its own, and the attempt to place it in the
> real world is part of the effect. A nice counterweight for Diskworld
> stories.
>
Agreed. A few years back, when I discovered the DW books, I had recently read
all three volumes of the Lovecraft "Omnibus" collection. Talk about changing
subjects. . . . anyway, reading such a huge amount of Lovecraft more or less
continuously did take its toll on my sanity. I really needed the Diskworld;
it helped me relax again.
By the way, Justin here seems to have missed something.
-Leif
Jane Hesketh
I'd like another book about Eskarina
Gavin Kerr
>In article <1993Feb17....@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> mp...@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Michael Peter Berzonsky) writes:
>>Totally off the subject, this came to me last night. Terry's
>>covered tons of stuff, but other than metamorphizing tapes in
>>Good Omens, little on Rock n Roll. Since he's a fan of TMBG,
>>maybe a dwarvish rock band, "No, We Really Are Dwarves." Since
>
>is "gold", as I recall (from WS) ... not much in the way of repetoire
>there. *grin*
>--
>Chris Camfield (chr...@debra.dgbt.doc.ca)
> "It's not all first nights at all
> There's nothing more dull than a curtain call..." (Split Enz)
I'm sure casanunder could introduce them to it though *8^>
Just my 2,000,000,000 Pesetas...
Gav
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Jacob C Kesinger
>a book set in Tsort yet. Now working on the "Ephebe == Athens" principle,
>we can therefore predict that "All roads lead to Tsort", and that "When
>in Tsort, do as the Tsorteans do".
>Last days of Pompeii.... The possibilities are endless. And we haven't
>even brought in Atlantis yet.....
1) I always thought Tsort was more a Troy (Tsortean War in Eric
firmly cemented this little gem in my mind, plus the bit in Pyramids)
2) In Eric, PTerry mentions Ku (Ka?) which sunk into the ocean
over a period of twenty years, so yes, Atlantis has been covered
<-(:-]
--
Jake Kesinger n914...@henson.cc.wwu.edu
"If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, what is it?"
"A vector."
Ulrich Schreglmann
>I'm sorry Terry, much as I like your work.. and I subscribed to this newsgroup
>to hear any more info on books etc. I do not believe in the Discworld as a real
>place.
YOU SQUARE! Don't you know in an infinite universe everything's possi-
ble? You just have to believe in it very hard. So get lost with your
skeptic talk, and subscribe to alt.atheism. We can't concentrate on
letting it happen with Thomases like you distracting us. :-)
Hum! Hummmm! Huuummmmmmm! ...
May the Cool Be with You!
(C)OOL mcmxciii
Orin_Davyd-Leslie THOMAS
what DISCWORLD book to write next, I suppose that I also would really
like to see everyone's favorite bumbling Wizard and his Homicidal travel
accessory in the next DW book. I would also like to know what has become
of Esk at the Unseen University
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Michael Holt
>
> Then again, you could kill the new DW off at the end, along the
> lines of the 'trousers' of time, alternate reality etc.
>
>Only if it is insanely funny. We don't want any of the boring
>discussions from alt.fan.douglas-adams in this group, thank you.
>
Who's he?. FYI there have been 'accidents' with the trousers of time in
previous novels. (Lords & Ladies, Pyramids) but it has never been used
in terms of travel. I think there is scope for the Wizards at the high
energy magic lab (or whatever the new building in the Unseen.u was)
creating some form of time travel. Think of the possibilities!.
> Alternatively:-
>
> One of your undisputed talents is to breathe life into normal one
> dimensional beings (such as the librarian and Oook!). What about
> one of your characters and a few of your ODB's (such as the
> luggage? death of rats? whatever) experimenting with the trousers
> of time, slipping into an alternate universe (such as ours) and
> then on return trying to start a large corporation to invent and
> patent most of the stuff they saw and used on thier travels? (but
> using the DW's current technology).
>
>Too complicated. The Luggage doesn't have the kind of temprament
>needed... :)
>
There are other ODB's that will suit me just fine, such as the librarian.
Judging by past DW novels, I can't think of ANY subject that could be too
complex?! (death, physics, tourism!).
SJE CHAMPION
Earthsea trilogy? Just an idea.
Do me a favour, though, and make sure it *HAS* got
a plot before you release it. ;8v}
Slimey
p.s. More Deaf, pleef!
SJE CHAMPION
K9 meets Luggage ?
Think of the Kirby cover! |Bv/
I'll leave you all to extract possibilities...
Slimey
Daniel R Barlow
>Here's an idea for a 'next book'. Instead of staying on the DW, how about
>another flirt with modern day earth. How about a parody on computer hackers
>and BBS's, with the main character being a student at some mythical university,
>and the existance of some 'World Ending' plot, which he stumbles on through
>hacking.
What do you think 'Eric' was?
Daniel
Ade Rixon
> So write it yourself :-). I'd like to see Terry produce original work, as
> he always does. Parody is a very easy form of writing (it's the only
> one *I* can come near to managing, for a start...)
No it isn't! :-) Parody places restrictions on the writer to stick within a
given context and style. It is hard to write effective parody that is
obviously derived from the original source and yet exaggerates or otherwise
warps it. Either one loses the relationship totally or one follows the
original material so literally that the result lacks any humour at all. Or
sometimes, it works alright.
Of course, I might just be being touchy because I like writing parody. ;-)
But I don't think you can say it is "easier" or "harder" than writing
original work. Just different.
Ade_
/
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He'd have given us bigger behinds to sit on and smaller heads to think
with." - PJ O'Rourke
Laura Johnson
wondering what happened to Esk. (Esk & Rincewind?...)
Monika Best
S.J.E.C...@bradford.ac.uk (SJE CHAMPION) writes:
>
>How about satirizing (ripping off) Ursula LeGuin's
>Earthsea trilogy? Just an idea.
time ago... but am I really the only one in this group who noticed that
_Equal Rites_ is actually the Discworld version of _A Wizard of
Earthsea_?!
-- Moni
Terry Pratchett
>Since he's a fan of TMBG,
>maybe a dwarvish rock band, "No, We Really Are Dwarves." Since
>rock is so central to dwarf life, it makes sense to me that
>they'd have a band, although I understand that rich dwarves
>hire trolls to bang on anvils, so maybe Detrius could be the
>percussion section.
I've occasioanlly toyed with the Ankh music business. And I can promise
you that if it ever happens, there'll be a group called 'We Really Are Dwarfs'
:-)
Terry
Terry Pratchett
>
>"Around the Disc in 80 Days". New characters, new settings.
>
Oh, yes...that one's in \Pit. But it's an obvious _Rincewind_ plot.
Terry
Terry Pratchett
> writes:
>
>I'm sorry Terry, much as I like your work.. and I subscribed to this newsgroup
>to hear any more info on books etc. I do not believe in the Discworld as a
> real place.
>
Terry
Terry Pratchett
You've really done it now...scattergun the poor guys with ideas, as if he
didn't have any himself :-)
The problem with Discworld newspaper\rock music\recording industry stories is
that, if not plotted properly, they're 'Moving Pictures' in disguise.
Anyway, I working away here...and look at it like this: there will, at some
point in the future, be another Rincewind book. And a witches book. And other
books. All we're talking about is _what order_...
Terry
Lasse Saikkonen
>Here's an idea for a 'next book'. Instead of staying on the DW, how about
>another flirt with modern day earth. How about a parody on computer hackers
>and BBS's, with the main character being a student at some mythical university,
>and the existance of some 'World Ending' plot, which he stumbles on through
>hacking.
Well, there are books a bit along those lines from Rick Cook. I haven't read
the first one, but it tells about hackers summoned to an alterate world to
make a magic compiler, which gives them the power to defeat an evil force
threatening the world.
The second book, "The Wizardry Cursed", tells about two other hackers, who
find out the way to that same universe, and they use the compiler in their
quest to enslave all the people.
Well, enuff said. Anyway, do whatever you think best, Terry.
P.S. I'm halfway through Moving Pictures at the momen, and I think it's a good
book, almost as good as David Niven's "Moon's A Balloon'
Fox
> Here's an idea for a 'next book'. Instead of staying on the DW, how about
> another flirt with modern day earth. How about a parody on computer hackers
> and BBS's, with the main character being a student at some mythical university,
> and the existance of some 'World Ending' plot, which he stumbles on through
> hacking.
>
* * * F L A M E * * *
Oh what's the use. It's already been said that there are a thousand and
one places on the usenet to have fun thoughts regarding the extents that
computers could re-write reality if they'd been introduced earlier, and
it's also been said that most people here DON'T WANT A.F.P. TO BE ONE OF
THOSE GROUPS but I have no doubt it won't make a shred of difference.
Mike
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Paul Gillingwater
> Well, there are books a bit along those lines from Rick Cook. I haven't read
> the first one, but it tells about hackers summoned to an alterate world to
> make a magic compiler, which gives them the power to defeat an evil force
> threatening the world.
The first book, "Wizard's Bane", has "Wiz" Zumwalt, and earthling
hacker (in the old sense) being called to an alternate world where magic
rules. He develops a theory of magic, using a little demon called EMACS
which he conjures up to help him edit spells!
> The second book, "The Wizardry Cursed", tells about two other hackers, who
> find out the way to that same universe, and they use the compiler in their
> quest to enslave all the people.
The second book is the "Wizard Compiled", in which friends of "Wiz"
recruit some more software geeks from Earth by visiting a S.C.A. hiring
fair, and use them to develop a magic compiler.
There may be a third book, which you call "The Wizardry Cursed".
All in all, the books contain lots of amusing references to software.
Rick Cook is also well known as a writer in UNIX magazines, so he knows
that of which he speaks.
Ob.Prat: Terry should write about his experiences in the nuclear
industry...
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Bernard Steiner
|> Anyway, I working away here...and look at it like this: there will, at some
|> point in the future, be another Rincewind book. And a witches book. And other
|> books. All we're talking about is _what order_...
Really ? *Other* books ?
Okay, how about more Nomes ?
And try and make those bookstores stop putting them in the kids' section only.
-Bernard
Whiplash
>
>Yeah, yeah, I should've posted this or sent it to Leo for the APF a long
>time ago... but am I really the only one in this group who noticed that
>_Equal Rites_ is actually the Discworld version of _A Wizard of
>Earthsea_?!
Hmmmmm? I've just read Equal Rites this week (for the first time tho) and the
Earthsea Trilogy (well actually quadrology *&) have been exceedingly
well-thumbed by myself and I didnt notice a single similarity!
Would you care to explain further?
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John Fairhall
cm...@castle.ed.ac.uk (Colin MacDonald) writes:
>Next thing you'll be writing with Big Ted and Jemima!
Say what? I thought these were only Australian TV characters (Playschool).
Is this in the UK as well?
JF
John Fairhall
>in Tsort, do as the Tsorteans do".
>Now, there's a world of possible sources here. "I Claudius" springs to
>mind. We haven't had a character with a *really* juicy speech defect for
>a while. Not to mention Caligula....
>Ben Hur! The Arena (now, boys and girls, who is it that we just *know* is
>going to going to end up in the arena....?)
>Last days of Pompeii.... The possibilities are endless. And we haven't
>even brought in Atlantis yet.....
And Asterix the Gaul could get a passing mention! No? Just a passing thought.
JF
Quetzal
>Ben Hur! The Arena (now, boys and girls, who is it that we just *know* is
>going to going to end up in the arena....?)
Umm . . . Death?
Tim Pickett
Phil Anderson
In article <730492...@unseen.demon.co.uk>
tprat...@unseen.demon.co.uk writes:
> >"Around the Disc in 80 Days". New characters, new settings.
> >
> Oh, yes...that one's in \Pit. But it's an obvious _Rincewind_ plot.
I don't care about Rincewind - it's an obvious _Luggage_ plot, dammit.
Bring on the sapient pearwood!
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G.P. Sereno
> In article <C2uL...@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk> u2...@csc.liv.ac.uk (G.P. Sereno) writes:
> >Here's an idea for a 'next book'. Instead of staying on the DW, how about
> >another flirt with modern day earth. How about a parody on computer hackers
> >and BBS's, with the main character being a student at some mythical university,
> >and the existance of some 'World Ending' plot, which he stumbles on through
> >hacking.
>
> What do you think 'Eric' was?
Have you never heard of Faust or The Tales of Dr. Faustus, one of which was done
by Marlow (Faust I think), and I can't remember who wrote the other.
The last few lines of Faust are worth remembering however, if your tempted to
try conjouring your own demons
>
> Daniel
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Rincewind alias Michael Schwingen
Paul Gillingwater (pa...@actrix.co.at) wrote:
PG>Ob.Prat: Terry should write about his experiences in the nuclear
PG>industry...
Hey - good idea !
What discworld technology could be dangerous enough to supply a good
story with lots of denials and the 'there was no danger to the public'
style fairy tales ?
I think especially magic and maybe the alchemists would not be a good
base for such a story - any other ideas ?
cu
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Neil L Cook
|> a book set in Tsort yet. Now working on the "Ephebe == Athens" principle,
|> in Tsort, do as the Tsorteans do".
|>
|> Now, there's a world of possible sources here. "I Claudius" springs to
|> mind. We haven't had a character with a *really* juicy speech defect for
|> a while. Not to mention Caligula....
|>
|> going to going to end up in the arena....?)
|>
|> even brought in Atlantis yet.....
Hmm, one slight problem with this - you're thinking of Rome. Athens is
in Greece! Caligula, Claudius Ben Hur etc, are all Roman connected.
And the quote.. "All roads lead to Rome", and "When in Rome, do as the
Romans do".
Neil.
Donal K. Fellows
Have you never heard of Faust or The Tales of Dr. Faustus, one of which was
done by Marlow (Faust I think), and I can't remember who wrote the other.
For some reason, the name Goethe springs to mind
The last few lines of Faust are worth remembering however, if your tempted
to try conjouring your own demons
I'm better at commanding daemons! :)
Donal.
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> some point in the future, be another Rincewind book. And a witches book.
> And other books. All we're talking about is _what order_...
Then let's have some other characters first - or - let's have books with
characters that only had one book of their own yet (Esk, Mort, Pteppic, ...)
bye,
Benedikt
Eccles
>>Re-reading "Small Gods" last night, it occurred to me that we haven't had
>>a book set in Tsort yet. Now working on the "Ephebe == Athens" principle,
>>we can therefore predict that "All roads lead to Tsort", and that "When
>>in Tsort, do as the Tsorteans do".
>>Last days of Pompeii.... The possibilities are endless. And we haven't
>>even brought in Atlantis yet.....
>1) I always thought Tsort was more a Troy (Tsortean War in Eric
>firmly cemented this little gem in my mind, plus the bit in Pyramids)
Makes sense, with Ephebe and Tsort throwing wooden horses and
rabbits at each other (fetchez la vache)
>2) In Eric, PTerry mentions Ku (Ka?) which sunk into the ocean
>over a period of twenty years, so yes, Atlantis has been covered
Related to the nation/country of Mu perhaps?
Eccles
d...@vax.oxford.ac.uk
> Have you never heard of Faust or The Tales of Dr. Faustus, one of which was done
> by Marlow (Faust I think), and I can't remember who wrote the other.
Goethe and Marlowe are the great exponents of the story, but hubristic
magicians have always made good copy.
While I'm here...
How do people enjoy Octiron Swampdragon's "Stairway to Dunmanifestin"? ;-)
Phil Anderson
> Have you never heard of Faust or The Tales of Dr. Faustus, one of which was > done
> by Marlow (Faust I think), and I can't remember who wrote the other.
"Faust" is by Goethe, "The Tragical History of Dr Faustus" by Marlowe.
> The last few lines of Faust are worth remembering however, if your tempted to
> try conjouring your own demons
And they are...?
Eccles
>In article <730492...@unseen.demon.co.uk>
>tprat...@unseen.demon.co.uk writes:
> > >"Around the Disc in 80 Days". New characters, new settings.
> > >
> > Oh, yes...that one's in \Pit. But it's an obvious _Rincewind_ plot.
>I don't care about Rincewind - it's an obvious _Luggage_ plot, dammit.
>Bring on the sapient pearwood!
LUGGAGE! No, it would be a short trip for the luggage....
It would end up in Tsort when Rincewind went to Ephebe, and
would stay there for the entire time.....
I knmow it has legs - ever tried to get out of an
airport _on foot_?
Eccles