Apology anyone?
Rocky Frisco
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=117017
Would anybody like to apologize for the hatchet job I received for
saying basically the same thing as the article, months before it came
out? If so, feel free to do so in email, since I'm not reading the
group. I have been saying for years that "Global Warming" is religion,
rather than science, based on faith rather than facts. Now everybody
knows that this is so.
-Rocky Frisco
--
Trust the Government.
Daibhid Ceanaideach
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cif-green/2009/nov/23/global-
warming-leaked-email-climate-scientists
--
Dave
"All those with psychokinesis, raise my hand."
The Room With No Doors, Kate Orman
Gift
"Rocky Frisco" <rockn...@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:9GdPm.45868$%j4.3...@newsfe18.iad...
>I assume you all have heard the news:
you forgot to forward it to alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.democrats.d and
alt.politics
...oh wait, no, that's that conrad guy...easy mistake to make.
Lesley Weston
> your perception, and (b) the article is rubbish too
Much as I love you, Rocky, I have to agree here, with both bits.
> (not really
> surprising from WorldNutDaily).
Though to be fair, the Grauniad's is just as vague, with just as few
actual facts (but somewhat funnier; whatever one's opinion of George
Monbiot, there's no point in pretending that he can't write). This
subject raises emotions to an unreasonable height on both sides.
> The latest "revelations" appear
> to be a tempest in a teacup (not even a tea pot). See
> https://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2009/nov/homepagenews/CRUupdate
I can't find the e-mails themselves anywhere, just cherry-picked bits
from them and a lot of opinions about them.
>
> And this response by Jones:
>
> "That the world is warming is based on a range of sources: not
> only temperature records but other indicators such as sea level
> rise, glacier retreat and less Arctic sea ice," he said. "Our
> global temperature series tallies with those of other, completely
> independent, groups of scientists working for Nasa and the
> National Climate Data Centre in the United States, among others.
> Even if you were to ignore our findings, theirs show the same
> results. The facts speak for themselves; there is no need for
> anyone to manipulate them."
> (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/24/climate-professor-leaked-emails-uea)
>
> If it turns out that Jones's group have been cooking the books -
> or even singeing the covers - then Jones must resign or be
> sacked.
>
> But reality is reality, and will withstand even such an assault
> as that.
Back to that one again. Rather kind of the gods to provide such strong
support of my side of that argument just at the right time.
> The world is retaining too much energy because of human
> activity, and the situation is getting worse by the day. That's
> just fact, like the fact that water is wet.
I think the jury's still out on the culpability bit. Humans do seem to
be contributing to the global warming that is undoubtedly happening, but
the extent of our criminal activity is not yet decided. Still, whatever
the causes, not wasting fuel and not creating pollution [1] have to be
Good Things in their own right.
>
> I realise, Rocky, that *you* are willing to believe that
> thousands of scientists all over the world are eager to put their
> reputations and careers on the line to promote a lie without
> getting anything back for it, whereas the ones being paid large
> amounts of money by industries that make billions out of the
> status quo are nevertheless selfless truth-tellers. But most
> people would evaluate the evidence differently.
That's one point that Monbiot makes rather well: Just /why/ would this
giant conspiracy be perpetrated? It's the same as the one about
fluoride: Why would all the dentists of the developed world be so
anxious to destroy the health of all the children in their countries?
[1] By which I means particles, toxic materials etc., not carbon. There
are plenty of good uses for CO2, including using it directly to make fuel.
--
Lesley Weston
The addy above is real, but I won't see anything posted to it for a long
time. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca, adjusting as necessary.
Aggie Angst
"Gift" <gi...@baddabing.com> wrote in message
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Besides, Inhofe is not necessarily a reputable rock on which to base an
information
foundation.
Or something.
Aggie
GaryN
news:hem916$2cjs$1...@mud.stack.nl:
<snip>
> That's one point that Monbiot makes rather well: Just /why/ would this
> giant conspiracy be perpetrated? It's the same as the one about
> fluoride: Why would all the dentists of the developed world be so
> anxious to destroy the health of all the children in their countries?
There is no conspiracy except for the ability of the Human Race to fuck up
and then try to blame someone else. We conspire amongst ourselves, without
communication, to pretend that "A Big Boy did it and ran away". As long as
we can blame someone else we can individually feel warm, cosy and self-
righteous.
Make the most of it while it lasts.
gary
--
"History is written by the winners which is why French history books are
blank from cover to cover"
The Pub Landlord.
Lesley Weston
> Lesley Weston <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:hem916$2cjs$1...@mud.stack.nl:
>
> <snip>
>> That's one point that Monbiot makes rather well: Just /why/ would this
>> giant conspiracy be perpetrated? It's the same as the one about
>> fluoride: Why would all the dentists of the developed world be so
>> anxious to destroy the health of all the children in their countries?
>
> There is no conspiracy except for the ability of the Human Race to fuck up
> and then try to blame someone else. We conspire amongst ourselves, without
> communication, to pretend that "A Big Boy did it and ran away". As long as
> we can blame someone else we can individually feel warm, cosy and self-
> righteous.
>
> Make the most of it while it lasts.
Despite this little glitch, it seems we will soon be feeling
considerably warmer. Coziness will follow as the night the day, and we
don't need any excuse to feel self-righteous.
Robert Carnegie
> I assume you all have heard the news:
> http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=117017
>
> Would anybody like to apologize for the hatchet job I received for
> saying basically the same thing as the article, months before it came
> out? If so, feel free to do so in email, since I'm not reading the
> group.
Good.
> I have been saying for years that "Global Warming" is religion,
> rather than science, based on faith rather than facts. Now everybody
> knows that this is so.
Maybe I missed the line where you explained it was specifically East
Anglicanism.
Do you really think that one jumped-up so-called university in England
that makes the RAND Corporation look like the college Methuselah's
grandfather attended, turned the whole world upside down? Even if
everyone there /was/ actually an Auditor, they wouldn't have the
pull.
I'll take a guess that most of the universities whose charter
currently is religious are in the U.S. A few centuries ago, of
course, that was true of Oxford and Cambridge - the real ones - so
maybe a few centuries from now, the Rocky Islands in the centre of the
Pacifilantic Waterworld will have followed us - not underwater but to
being secular in terms of abstract intellectual effort.