As I keep saying :-) I'll be in Manchester next weekend.
I won't make it to Dave's to watch the TV, and plan
on going to Reading on the Saturday for the birthday
meet. (Can anyone offer crashspace?)
So if any of you aren't going to Reading, how about
a quiet pint on Friday night (just realised, probably
won't make it to a pub till about 9 PM) or if
nobody offers crash space, on the Saturday.
I think it's a good idea, and so does Murky
Cheers
Bjorn
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In article <336dd9ec...@news.ftech.net>,
mu...@lspace.org (Murky B) wrote:
>In alt.fan.pratchett, Bjorn Fridgeir Bjornsson was seen to say...
>>I think it's a good idea, and so does Murky
>
>Oh dear... he's invoked me.
>
>Erm, yeah. Let's do a minimeet on Friday. Is there any interest in a
>little trip to t'pub?
Sadly no can do :(
>
>Sorry that we can't offer crash space...
>
> ... is the OTHER mancmeet still on for a few weeks time?
I assume so.
Dave
When and where is the Mancmeet? There may be a slim chance I could attend
(although with me only being in Salford during the day, and the workload I've
got in my final 4 weeks being immense its probably TOO slim).
Regards
His Lordship.
> ... is the OTHER mancmeet still on for a few weeks time?
I replied to this yesterday and the post has vanished. No bounces, no
warnings, no message.
So, I'll try again.
The Friday night "meet up at the bookshop and then do something" thing is
still, as far as I'm concerned, definately on. I'm looking forward to it.
The Saturday day/evening thing is less certain. I've had some people express
some interest but not having a clue what to do.
My only suggestions at present are:
1) People are more than welcome to come to our house, but that's
warrington not manchester. (We have crash space too, how much
depends on how cosy you want to be with people *&)
2) Hire a canal boat and pootle around for the day (and feed in the
evening etc).
If there is anyone interested (pratchett, asr, bofh or fysh) in sorting
something out for Saturday then let me know. Otherwise I'll just see people
on Friday.
Claire
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}I hate to be picky. Well, I don't 'cause it's 7:45pm on Friday and I'm not
}in a pub, but you get the idea. I hate to be picky, but isn't that A.P.B?
It is, it is. *sigh*
}Of course, it could be that I'm getting mixed up with my merkinisms, but I
}think A.B.P is something entirely different. alt.binaries.pengiuns, anyone?
}Alun? Anyone?
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>C Speed <per...@mcc.ac.uk> wrote:
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^^^^^
I hate to be picky. Well, I don't 'cause it's 7:45pm on Friday and I'm not
in a pub, but you get the idea. I hate to be picky, but isn't that A.P.B?
Of course, it could be that I'm getting mixed up with my merkinisms, but I
think A.B.P is something entirely different. alt.binaries.pengiuns, anyone?
Alun? Anyone?
foop
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and throw it at the rogue .sig. You do that every day until the rogue .sig
gives up. Gets them every time. Also works on double .sigs I've heard.
What's afp doing in the ng line btw?
Hi there everybody, especialy Lynne Green from XXXX and Steph.
Not that anyone cares but I've been ill. Changed my server and alsorts.
Even missed all Terry's stuff on the box and radio (Except for a very short
bit on that prog about the Goons last week where he appeared sans-fedora no
less.
He admited to hoping that he'd got a similar grasp of word power to Spike.
You have Terry but, did Milligan really start it all...... I like to think
he did.
Oh yes I used to be jonh...@aol.com changed to john....@virgin.net and
am staying here now with force9 on my own dworld so there.
Love to get mail so send me some.
Newbie info.
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definately LOOKING so no WYMM's.....
Likely to accept.
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In truth, probably not. I don't know how much of my interview they used
on the programme, but I did made the point that Goon humour grew out of
earlier stuff -- Sellar and Yeatman, possibly, and certain the
'Beachcomber' column in the Daily Express in the 1930s (and I recall
Milligan fronted a series of Beachcomber adaptations some years back).
But *that* stuff grew out of earlier comic writing as well.
If I had to look for a personal influence, I'd probably pick the late
Michael Bentine, who was a Goon at the start but who later produced, in
It's a Square World, a sort of synthesis of Goon and 'traditional'
humour.
--
Terry Pratchett
>In article <5kupi1$j59$1...@lurch.mcc.ac.uk>,
> per...@mcc.ac.uk (C Speed) writes:
>> My only suggestions at present are:
>>
>> 1) People are more than welcome to come to our house, but that's
>> warrington not manchester. (We have crash space too, how much
>> depends on how cosy you want to be with people *&)
>Tell me again, why Warrington?
It's that heady scent of hops and washing powder.
Claire
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If you ask me, that's a very good question :)
> > It's that heady scent of hops and washing powder.
> That doesn't explain why Warrington. You could live right here in
> Manchester and live near either the Boddington's or McEwan's breweries.
> If you lived near Boddies' you could even see one of Britain's most
> picturesque prisons.
Have the inmates given up trying to burn it down, now? They have some
decidedly odd mannerisms in that place...
And what about the Chester's and Holt's breweries? Ahh, I remember when
Holt's was only 80p a pint. Last summer, I think it was :)
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>If I had to look for a personal influence, I'd probably pick the late
>Michael Bentine, who was a Goon at the start but who later produced, in
>It's a Square World, a sort of synthesis of Goon and 'traditional'
>humour.
There seems to be a terrible dearth of Bentinalia.[*]
Videos? Books? I haven't even seen Bentine on any of the Goon Show
audio tapes.
I remember Potty Time as being the second funniest programme of my
childhood, the funniest being The Goodies.
Does anyone know if any of Michael Bentine's work is available?
Donald.
[*] Apologies for using such a Sunday-afternoon-BBC-type word.
A case could be made that the British Humour Evolutionary Tree split at
the time of the Goons - there was the Bentine line, from which came I'm
Sorry I'll Read that Again and The Goodies, and the Milligan line, which
began At Last The 1948 Show, Q2 and the Pythons.
--
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Holt's.. great beer.. real bitter.. like you used to get.. unlike
Boddington's.. strange beer.. still what do you expect.. according to
its pump font its brewed in strange ways<G>
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This doesn't take into account the central strand of the Cryer, Junkin,
Sykes, Galton and Simpson humour. Most mainstream 'sitcoms' came from
this direction (IMHO). The old Music Hall via Cineam and into early TV
route. I suppose it could be called 'Gag' based humour.
I like the way the Goodies would pick up a seemingly ordinary situation
and then put a Bentine style 'Twist' on it. Things like the Safari park
full of TV personalities, Boyscouts being declared illegal etc. Vic and
Bob remind me of this style but they have collided with Eric and Ernie.
Python tended to be more like the Milligan 'Q' series, a short sketch to
explore one idea. Not the Nine Oclock News and Naked video or more
recently The Fast Show go this way as well.
Shooty
>So who are Flanders and Swann the ancestors of?
>
Noel Coward possibly?
Colette (a.k.a The Bellinghwoman)
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|> > So who are Flanders and Swann the ancestors of?
|>
|> Hmm... Fry and Laurie, in a weird kind of way. And who is Paul Merton
|> a descendant of? Or are the strands reuniting? And why is Angus
|> Deaton?
Paul Merton is a bit like the Goons done deadpan. I love the four
meters sketch, the Royal Regiment of Cowards Sketch, and quite a few
of the kiosk sketches.
"Excuse me, sir, but we've had reports that those toffees hanve been
stolen."
"Of course they haven't. See, they're just over there."
"Thank you, sir. Glad to have cleared that one up."
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Published by EMI, CD no: CDECC7 - enjoy!
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>> >Tell me again, why Warrington?
>>
>> It's that heady scent of hops and washing powder.
>That doesn't explain why Warrington. You could live right here in
>Manchester and live near either the Boddington's or McEwan's breweries.
>If you lived near Boddies' you could even see one of Britain's most
>picturesque prisons.
It precisely explains why Warrington.
In Manchester I could live next to a wide selection of breweries, but not
sandwiched between them and a Lever Brothers factory.
Ah, those autumn evenings when the chemical waste foam on the river Mersey
blows over the road and into our back yard.
[sound effects]*thinks* "Dammit, should have worn a bra this morning")
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>"British Comedy Classics". It contines the Bentine sketches
>"Football Results", "Holiday Commercial", "Lolly Commercial", "Moscow
>Radio Commercial", "Ice Cream Commercial" and "The Horse Show."
>
>Also contains Kenneth Williams, Joyce Grenfell, Morcambe & Wise, Peter
>Cook, Dudley Moore, Bernard Cribbins and many more!
>Published by EMI, CD no: CDECC7 - enjoy!
You are leaving yourself open to some very dubious comments posting this
to afp.
Don't forget on here any comment will be mis-understood in the worst
possible way, and explanations of what you really meant will be ignored.
Do you realise the effect on some of the older posters, I just hope they
have their heart pills handy!
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The most interesting event was when the circus came to the Birchwood
arena and the Lions/Tigers were in cages just outside my flat! I broke
all records for getting from my front door to my car that week.
>
> Before I replied, I got to thinking abou this lack of importation.
> Has it worked both ways? Are there some "classic" Merkin situation
> comedies that you folks in Great Britain haven't the foggiest notion
> about? Did we, for instance, ever export to you
>
> I Love Lucy
They keep putting that on over here.
> The Honeymooners
This was on channel four a few years ago.
> Mr Ed
Used to be on as a morning show for the kids.
> Hogan's Heroes (I'd bet *that* one went over real well!)
This was on years ago, about a POW camp as I remember.
> Gilligan's Island
This one hasn't been on but it keeps getting mentioned in other shows
> Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In
Some of these have been on over here.
> Leave it to Beaver
Never heard of this one
> The Dick Van Dyke Show (which was actually quite good)
This used to be on
> My Mother the Car (usually blasted as the Worst Comedy ever on
> American TV, but not *quite* that bad. Just terrible)
Not been on over here
> The Beverly Hillbillies
Yup the story of a man named Jed etc. This keeps appearing
> Green Acres
Not heard of this.
>
> I could go on and on...
>
We get Bilko all the time, but its worth watching and we got:
Taxi, Mash, Cheers, Who's Boss?, Rhoda, Golden Girls, Seinfeld, Friends,
Larry Sanders, Gary Chandling Show, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeany (sp?), I
Spy, Married with Children, Archie Bunkers Place (US version of Steptoe
with the funny bits taken out), Home Improvement, Different Strokes,
Fresh Prince, Cosby, Hangin' With Mister Cooper, Mork and Mindy, Laverne
and Shirley, Happy Days, Sweet Valley High, Teenage Witch, Clarissa
Explains it All, Grace Under Pressure, Kirsty and Allie, Ellen, Evening
Shade.
And I am sure there are others that I have forgotten
<RANT/>
YES YOU DID !!!!! (Nearly all of it!!!)(And none of its (OK.. _most_ of
its not) a patch on the Goodies, or the Goons, or Dad's Army, or lots of
other stuff from over here.. so why do they keep giving us US sitcoms
instead of home grown ones???)
</RANT>
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and it sounded as though you danced on tables for a living.
You could put in a Z and a couple of Ns and an E,
but it still looked like a name with extensions built on."
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>The Junkyard Dog notes that on Fri, 16 May 1997 01:11:36 GMT,
>pau...@dtc.net (Paul E. Jamison, Esq.) writ the following:
>
>>This Merkin has been having a tantalizing time following this thread,
>>with the references to the Goon Show, the Goodies and of course Monty
>>Python's Flying Circus. etc etc .
>a
oops sorry I deleted part of the heading
didn't mean to start new thread
sorry sorry Oh bugger
Ray, in the kennel of the Junkyard Dog.
Lincolnshire England.
Set the controls for the heart of the sun,
and run a level four diagnostic Mr Data.
My tea's cold.
>This Merkin has been having a tantalizing time following this thread,
>with the references to the Goon Show, the Goodies and of course Monty
>Python's Flying Circus. etc etc .
and then...
>about? Did we, for instance, ever export to you
>
>I Love Lucy
>The Honeymooners
>Mr Ed
>Hogan's Heroes (I'd bet *that* one went over real well!)
>Gilligan's Island
>Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In
>Leave it to Beaver
>The Dick Van Dyke Show (which was actually quite good)
>My Mother the Car (usually blasted as the Worst Comedy ever on
>American TV, but not *quite* that bad. Just terrible)
>The Beverly Hillbillies
>Green Acres
Yes we got all these except one. I don't recognise "My mother the Car"
Most of them were quite popular. Some are still running on satellite
and cable.
I think the Goons humour was probably a bit too British for mainstream
American audiences. Lots of references to things you would have no
knowledge of. Whereas British audiences, brought up on a diet of
Hollywood, could understand most American humour.
IMO some of the best TV humour currently running in Britain is
American. Some of it is unadulterarated trash, but you do with such
style.
Rosanne, however, has gone right down the toilet.
I've just read through that lot and the last line conjures up an
interesting scenario.
> Rosanne, however, has gone right down the toilet.
>
> I've just read through that lot and the last line conjures up an
> interesting scenario.
>
She wouldn't fit, would she???
"Washing powder"? So *that's* it! I worked in Warrington for about 8 months
in 91-92, and I never identified that other smell. I identified the hops and
the smell of gritty post-industrial depression and bleakness, but I never
identified that undercurrent of washing powder.
North West Water, New Town House, Warrington. OS Grid SJ6088. Don't ask how
I know which grid square it was in - I wasn't calling in an artillery strike
on the place, tempting as that might have bee.
BTW: IF anybody ever offers you a job working alongside people from Andersen
Consulting, make sure you have a provision in your contract for
time-and-a-half for overtime, even if you're salaried. And make sure that
*you* get to decide how much overtime you work, not some Anderoid. Or shoot
them.
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>>Don't forget on here any comment will be mis-understood in the worst
>>possible way, and explanations of what you really meant will be ignored.
>
>Hmmmm. I think that was lesson one....
>>
I'm used to that - I have been called the original foot in mouth person!
>>Do you realise the effect on some of the older posters, I just hope they
>>have their heart pills handy!
>
>Well, you were all getting tired of me so....what the hey, I went into
>syndication!
>
>Michelena
>(who's asset is a weee bit too *bountiful atm, and is in need of "real
>life" dieting strategies....I admit it I wanna be a *babe*!
>
I'm feeling the same - so, yes, running mates it is!
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>> Hogan's Heroes (I'd bet *that* one went over real well!)
>This was on years ago, about a POW camp as I remember.
Still showing on one of the German channels, but dubbed. Looks
really odd, Germans in German WW2 uniforms speaking German but out
of sync with their lips.
>> Gilligan's Island
>This one hasn't been on but it keeps getting mentioned in other shows
Yes it was. Pure garbage. Ooops, showing my age again.
Tony
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>Yes we got all these except one. I don't recognise "My mother the Car"
"My Mother..." is deservedly one of the worst American television shows
ever made. It starred Jerry Van Dyke (brother of Dick), who is now on
"Coach".
>I think the Goons humour was probably a bit too British for mainstream
>American audiences. Lots of references to things you would have no
>knowledge of. Whereas British audiences, brought up on a diet of
>Hollywood, could understand most American humour.
The unfortunate thing with mainstream American audiences is that they tend
to be product of mainstream American schools. We Americans don't want to
know anymore that we have to in order to graduate. That's why British
comedy takes on a cult status over here. It goes over many heads so it
doesn't catch on as well or, as someone else said:
That seems to point up a significant difference between Europeans and
Americans. A European says: "I can't understand this, what's wrong with
me?" An American says: "I can't understand this, what's wrong with him?"
>IMO some of the best TV humour currently running in Britain is
>American.
If Britain ever comes in contact with a program called "Mystery Science
Theater 3000", then you will truly see what excellence we're capable of.
As for now, just enjoy the Simpsons.
> Some of it is unadulterarated trash, but you do with such
>style.
You could say that the extra ingredient is titilation.
>Rosanne, however, has gone right down the toilet.
No argument there. Thankfully, this is its last season.
>I've just read through that lot and the last line conjures up an
>interesting scenario.
Ah ha! So you do know about the super secret series finale! :)
Money. Or rather as little of it as possible. You see, talent can cost
more money than no talent. Or so they tell me.
Beyond B5 and the occasional decent piece of satire I could very easily
save myself 80 quid a year.
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tellers?
Then, on Fri, 16 May 1997 10:30:15 -0100, a little light bulb went on
over the head of Suzi (Suzi <suzi.h...@capgemini.co.uk>),
and she wrote, like an infinite number of monkeys, thus and so to
alt.fan.pratchett:
><RANT/>
>YES YOU DID !!!!! (Nearly all of it!!!)(And none of its (OK.. _most_ of
>its not) a patch on the Goodies, or the Goons, or Dad's Army, or lots of
>other stuff from over here.. so why do they keep giving us US sitcoms
>instead of home grown ones???)
></RANT>
My first reaction is to humbly apologize, but I'm an atypical Merkin
anyway and it wouldn't make the blasted things go away.
Anyway, that sure answered my original, and it's depresssing, let me
tell you.
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>On Fri, 16 May 1997 11:26:2