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Bjorn Fridgeir Bjornsson

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May 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/4/97
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As I keep saying :-) I'll be in Manchester next weekend.
I won't make it to Dave's to watch the TV, and plan
on going to Reading on the Saturday for the birthday
meet. (Can anyone offer crashspace?)

So if any of you aren't going to Reading, how about
a quiet pint on Friday night (just realised, probably
won't make it to a pub till about 9 PM) or if
nobody offers crash space, on the Saturday.

I think it's a good idea, and so does Murky

Cheers
Bjorn

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Dave Le Good

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May 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/5/97
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In article <336dd9ec...@news.ftech.net>,
mu...@lspace.org (Murky B) wrote:

>In alt.fan.pratchett, Bjorn Fridgeir Bjornsson was seen to say...


>>I think it's a good idea, and so does Murky
>

>Oh dear... he's invoked me.
>
>Erm, yeah. Let's do a minimeet on Friday. Is there any interest in a
>little trip to t'pub?

Sadly no can do :(

>
>Sorry that we can't offer crash space...
>
> ... is the OTHER mancmeet still on for a few weeks time?

I assume so.

Dave

Lord of Lancashire

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May 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/6/97
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In article <336dd9ec...@news.ftech.net>,
mu...@lspace.org (Murky B) wrote:
>In alt.fan.pratchett, Bjorn Fridgeir Bjornsson was seen to say...
>>I think it's a good idea, and so does Murky
>
>Oh dear... he's invoked me.
>
>Erm, yeah. Let's do a minimeet on Friday. Is there any interest in a
>little trip to t'pub?
>
>Sorry that we can't offer crash space...
>
> ... is the OTHER mancmeet still on for a few weeks time?
>
>Murky B http://www.ftech.net/~monark/spam/index.hts

When and where is the Mancmeet? There may be a slim chance I could attend
(although with me only being in Salford during the day, and the workload I've
got in my final 4 weeks being immense its probably TOO slim).

Regards

His Lordship.

C Speed

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May 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/9/97
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mu...@lspace.org (Murky B) writes:

> ... is the OTHER mancmeet still on for a few weeks time?

I replied to this yesterday and the post has vanished. No bounces, no
warnings, no message.

So, I'll try again.

The Friday night "meet up at the bookshop and then do something" thing is
still, as far as I'm concerned, definately on. I'm looking forward to it.

The Saturday day/evening thing is less certain. I've had some people express
some interest but not having a clue what to do.

My only suggestions at present are:

1) People are more than welcome to come to our house, but that's
warrington not manchester. (We have crash space too, how much
depends on how cosy you want to be with people *&)
2) Hire a canal boat and pootle around for the day (and feed in the
evening etc).

If there is anyone interested (pratchett, asr, bofh or fysh) in sorting
something out for Saturday then let me know. Otherwise I'll just see people
on Friday.

Claire
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D. Joseph Creighton

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May 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/9/97
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Chris Richardson <fo...@sg2.pcy.kcl.ac.uk> wrote:
}>C Speed <per...@mcc.ac.uk> wrote:
} <snip>

}>}I replied to this yesterday and the post has vanished. No bounces, no
}>}warnings, no message.
}
} <Argh! Rogue .sig! ... snip>

<Run from the evil rogue .sig! Aiieeeee!>

}>Newsgroups: alt.sysadmin.recovery
}>Subject: A.B.P. on rogue .sig file
} ^^^^^
}
}I hate to be picky. Well, I don't 'cause it's 7:45pm on Friday and I'm not
}in a pub, but you get the idea. I hate to be picky, but isn't that A.P.B?

It is, it is. *sigh*

}Of course, it could be that I'm getting mixed up with my merkinisms, but I
}think A.B.P is something entirely different. alt.binaries.pengiuns, anyone?
}Alun? Anyone?

But I'm Canadian... eh?

[ infected .sig snipped ]

- Joe "and .sig condom donned" Creighton
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D. Joseph Creighton

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May 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/9/97
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In article <5kupi1$j59$1...@lurch.mcc.ac.uk>, C Speed <per...@mcc.ac.uk> wrote:
}mu...@lspace.org (Murky B) writes:
}> ... is the OTHER mancmeet still on for a few weeks time?
}
}I replied to this yesterday and the post has vanished. No bounces, no
}warnings, no message.
}
}So, I'll try again.

[ deletia ]

Oh. My. God.

That means one of your .sigs is out there...



Newsgroups: alt.sysadmin.recovery
Subject: A.B.P. on rogue .sig file

Be on the lookout for the following .signature file. It is considered
highly contagious and can corrupt other .signature files upon contact.

}******************************************************************************
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}* Dial-up, ISDN, TICTAC * C.S...@mcc.ac.uk http://www.mcc.ac.uk/Claire/ *
}******************************************************************************

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Chris Richardson

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May 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/9/97
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<d...@cc.umanitoba.ca>, the entity called D. Joseph Creighton, wrote:

>C Speed <per...@mcc.ac.uk> wrote:

<snip>

>}I replied to this yesterday and the post has vanished. No bounces, no
>}warnings, no message.

<Argh! Rogue .sig! ... snip>

>Newsgroups: alt.sysadmin.recovery


>Subject: A.B.P. on rogue .sig file

^^^^^

I hate to be picky. Well, I don't 'cause it's 7:45pm on Friday and I'm not
in a pub, but you get the idea. I hate to be picky, but isn't that A.P.B?

Of course, it could be that I'm getting mixed up with my merkinisms, but I


think A.B.P is something entirely different. alt.binaries.pengiuns, anyone?
Alun? Anyone?

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Perry Rovers

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May 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/10/97
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A flock of rogue penguins inspired Chris Richardson (fo...@sg4.pcy.kcl.ac.uk) to tell alt.sysadmin.recovery:
: >Newsgroups: alt.sysadmin.recovery

: >Subject: A.B.P. on rogue .sig file
: ^^^^^
:
: I hate to be picky. Well, I don't 'cause it's 7:45pm on Friday and I'm not
: in a pub, but you get the idea. I hate to be picky, but isn't that A.P.B?
Nah...

: Of course, it could be that I'm getting mixed up with my merkinisms, but I

: think A.B.P is something entirely different. alt.binaries.pengiuns, anyone?
: Alun? Anyone?

It's alt.binaries.pictures.. you take about 200Mb a.b.p, cat it to a .sig file
and throw it at the rogue .sig. You do that every day until the rogue .sig
gives up. Gets them every time. Also works on double .sigs I've heard.

What's afp doing in the ng line btw?

john shaw

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May 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/11/97
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Hi there everybody, especialy Lynne Green from XXXX and Steph.
Not that anyone cares but I've been ill. Changed my server and alsorts.
Even missed all Terry's stuff on the box and radio (Except for a very short
bit on that prog about the Goons last week where he appeared sans-fedora no
less.

He admited to hoping that he'd got a similar grasp of word power to Spike.
You have Terry but, did Milligan really start it all...... I like to think
he did.

Oh yes I used to be jonh...@aol.com changed to john....@virgin.net and
am staying here now with force9 on my own dworld so there.

Love to get mail so send me some.

Newbie info.

42 male South Staffordshire unattached part time dad disabled and
definately LOOKING so no WYMM's.....
Likely to accept.


John


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john shaw

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Terry Pratchett

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May 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/12/97
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In article <01bc5da6$e14e7160$LocalHost@j1>, john shaw
<j...@witsend.force9.net> writes

>
>Hi there everybody, especialy Lynne Green from XXXX and Steph.
>Not that anyone cares but I've been ill. Changed my server and alsorts.
>Even missed all Terry's stuff on the box and radio (Except for a very short
>bit on that prog about the Goons last week where he appeared sans-fedora no
>less.
>
>He admited to hoping that he'd got a similar grasp of word power to Spike.
>You have Terry but, did Milligan really start it all...... I like to think
>he did.

In truth, probably not. I don't know how much of my interview they used
on the programme, but I did made the point that Goon humour grew out of
earlier stuff -- Sellar and Yeatman, possibly, and certain the
'Beachcomber' column in the Daily Express in the 1930s (and I recall
Milligan fronted a series of Beachcomber adaptations some years back).
But *that* stuff grew out of earlier comic writing as well.

If I had to look for a personal influence, I'd probably pick the late
Michael Bentine, who was a Goon at the start but who later produced, in
It's a Square World, a sort of synthesis of Goon and 'traditional'
humour.
--
Terry Pratchett

C Speed

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May 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/13/97
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pdca...@aladdin.net (Piers Cawley) writes:

>In article <5kupi1$j59$1...@lurch.mcc.ac.uk>,


> per...@mcc.ac.uk (C Speed) writes:
>> My only suggestions at present are:
>>
>> 1) People are more than welcome to come to our house, but that's
>> warrington not manchester. (We have crash space too, how much
>> depends on how cosy you want to be with people *&)

>Tell me again, why Warrington?

It's that heady scent of hops and washing powder.

Claire
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May 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/13/97
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Big Matt Drongo wrote:

> C Speed wrote:
> > >Tell me again, why Warrington?

If you ask me, that's a very good question :)

> > It's that heady scent of hops and washing powder.

> That doesn't explain why Warrington. You could live right here in
> Manchester and live near either the Boddington's or McEwan's breweries.
> If you lived near Boddies' you could even see one of Britain's most
> picturesque prisons.

Have the inmates given up trying to burn it down, now? They have some
decidedly odd mannerisms in that place...

And what about the Chester's and Holt's breweries? Ahh, I remember when
Holt's was only 80p a pint. Last summer, I think it was :)

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Donald Campbell

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May 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/13/97
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In article <lgsdRGAL...@unseen.demon.co.uk>,
Terry Pratchett <tprat...@unseen.demon.co.uk> wrote:

[...]


>If I had to look for a personal influence, I'd probably pick the late
>Michael Bentine, who was a Goon at the start but who later produced, in
>It's a Square World, a sort of synthesis of Goon and 'traditional'
>humour.

There seems to be a terrible dearth of Bentinalia.[*]
Videos? Books? I haven't even seen Bentine on any of the Goon Show
audio tapes.

I remember Potty Time as being the second funniest programme of my
childhood, the funniest being The Goodies.

Does anyone know if any of Michael Bentine's work is available?

Donald.
[*] Apologies for using such a Sunday-afternoon-BBC-type word.

Terry Pratchett

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In article <337866...@mrent.demon.co.uk>, Shooty
<an...@mrent.demon.co.uk> writes
>SNIP

>
>> If I had to look for a personal influence, I'd probably pick the late
>> Michael Bentine, who was a Goon at the start but who later produced, in
>> It's a Square World, a sort of synthesis of Goon and 'traditional'
>> humour.
>
>I always thaught of the Goodies as a very 'Bentinesque' type of comedy.
>

A case could be made that the British Humour Evolutionary Tree split at
the time of the Goons - there was the Bentine line, from which came I'm
Sorry I'll Read that Again and The Goodies, and the Milligan line, which
began At Last The 1948 Show, Q2 and the Pythons.
--
Terry Pratchett

Gid Holyoake

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May 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/14/97
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"Leighton.Pritchard" wrote:
>
> Have the inmates given up trying to burn it down, now? They have some
> decidedly odd mannerisms in that place...
>
> And what about the Chester's and Holt's breweries? Ahh, I remember when
> Holt's was only 80p a pint. Last summer, I think it was :)
>

Holt's.. great beer.. real bitter.. like you used to get.. unlike
Boddington's.. strange beer.. still what do you expect.. according to
its pump font its brewed in strange ways<G>

Gid

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Shooty

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May 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/14/97
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This doesn't take into account the central strand of the Cryer, Junkin,
Sykes, Galton and Simpson humour. Most mainstream 'sitcoms' came from
this direction (IMHO). The old Music Hall via Cineam and into early TV
route. I suppose it could be called 'Gag' based humour.

I like the way the Goodies would pick up a seemingly ordinary situation
and then put a Bentine style 'Twist' on it. Things like the Safari park
full of TV personalities, Boyscouts being declared illegal etc. Vic and
Bob remind me of this style but they have collided with Eric and Ernie.

Python tended to be more like the Milligan 'Q' series, a short sketch to
explore one idea. Not the Nine Oclock News and Naked video or more
recently The Fast Show go this way as well.

Shooty

Colette Reap

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May 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/14/97
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wil...@wehi.edu.au.UNSPAM (John Wilkins) wrote:


>So who are Flanders and Swann the ancestors of?
>
Noel Coward possibly?

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Peter Bleackley

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In hysterics, (Piers Cawley) writes:

|> > So who are Flanders and Swann the ancestors of?
|>

|> Hmm... Fry and Laurie, in a weird kind of way. And who is Paul Merton
|> a descendant of? Or are the strands reuniting? And why is Angus
|> Deaton?

Paul Merton is a bit like the Goons done deadpan. I love the four
meters sketch, the Royal Regiment of Cowards Sketch, and quite a few
of the kiosk sketches.

"Excuse me, sir, but we've had reports that those toffees hanve been
stolen."
"Of course they haven't. See, they're just over there."
"Thank you, sir. Glad to have cleared that one up."

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Caroline Jones

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In article <AF9E681B...@atuin.demon.co.uk>, Donald Campbell
<don...@atuin.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article <lgsdRGAL...@unseen.demon.co.uk>,
>Terry Pratchett <tprat...@unseen.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>[...]
>>If I had to look for a personal influence, I'd probably pick the late
>>Michael Bentine, who was a Goon at the start but who later produced, in
>>It's a Square World, a sort of synthesis of Goon and 'traditional'
>>humour.
>
>There seems to be a terrible dearth of Bentinalia.[*]
>Videos? Books? I haven't even seen Bentine on any of the Goon Show
>audio tapes.
>
>I remember Potty Time as being the second funniest programme of my
>childhood, the funniest being The Goodies.
>
>Does anyone know if any of Michael Bentine's work is available?
>
>Donald.
>[*] Apologies for using such a Sunday-afternoon-BBC-type word.
>
>
There's some stuff available on a double CD entitled (*thump thump
thump* *runs to bedroom* *clatter* *knocks CD pile over* *thump thump*
*runs back to computer* *thinks* "Dammit, should have worn a bra this
morning") "British Comedy Classics". It contines the Bentine sketches
"Football Results", "Holiday Commercial", "Lolly Commercial", "Moscow
Radio Commercial", "Ice Cream Commercial" and "The Horse Show."

Also contains Kenneth Williams, Joyce Grenfell, Morcambe & Wise, Peter
Cook, Dudley Moore, Bernard Cribbins and many more!
Published by EMI, CD no: CDECC7 - enjoy!
--
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"Damaged people are dangerous. They know they can survive." - Josephine Hart

C Speed

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May 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/15/97
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Big Matt Drongo <Turni...@unseen.ac.dw> writes:

>> >Tell me again, why Warrington?
>>

>> It's that heady scent of hops and washing powder.

>That doesn't explain why Warrington. You could live right here in
>Manchester and live near either the Boddington's or McEwan's breweries.
>If you lived near Boddies' you could even see one of Britain's most
>picturesque prisons.

It precisely explains why Warrington.

In Manchester I could live next to a wide selection of breweries, but not
sandwiched between them and a Lever Brothers factory.

Ah, those autumn evenings when the chemical waste foam on the river Mersey
blows over the road and into our back yard.

Martyn Clapham

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May 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/15/97
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In article <wuLv4MAd...@arpeggio.demon.co.uk>, Caroline Jones
<caro...@arpeggio.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article <AF9E681B...@atuin.demon.co.uk>, Donald Campbell
><don...@atuin.demon.co.uk> writes
>>In article <lgsdRGAL...@unseen.demon.co.uk>,
>>Terry Pratchett <tprat...@unseen.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>[...]
>>>If I had to look for a personal influence, I'd probably pick the late
>>>Michael Bentine, who was a Goon at the start but who later produced, in
>>>It's a Square World, a sort of synthesis of Goon and 'traditional'
>>>humour.
[...]

>>Does anyone know if any of Michael Bentine's work is available?
>>
>>Donald.
>>[*] Apologies for using such a Sunday-afternoon-BBC-type word.
>>
>There's some stuff available on a double CD entitled (

[sound effects]*thinks* "Dammit, should have worn a bra this morning")
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


>"British Comedy Classics". It contines the Bentine sketches
>"Football Results", "Holiday Commercial", "Lolly Commercial", "Moscow
>Radio Commercial", "Ice Cream Commercial" and "The Horse Show."
>
>Also contains Kenneth Williams, Joyce Grenfell, Morcambe & Wise, Peter
>Cook, Dudley Moore, Bernard Cribbins and many more!
>Published by EMI, CD no: CDECC7 - enjoy!

You are leaving yourself open to some very dubious comments posting this
to afp.

Don't forget on here any comment will be mis-understood in the worst
possible way, and explanations of what you really meant will be ignored.

Do you realise the effect on some of the older posters, I just hope they
have their heart pills handy!

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In article <863626...@amgmps.com>, ian jordan <i...@amgmps.com> writes
>In article <5l7ahi$bp$1...@gunnar.aladdin.net>

> pdca...@aladdin.net "Piers Cawley" writes:
>
>>In article <5kupi1$j59$1...@lurch.mcc.ac.uk>,
>> per...@mcc.ac.uk (C Speed) writes:
>>> My only suggestions at present are:
>>>
>>> 1) People are more than welcome to come to our house, but that's
>>> warrington not manchester. (We have crash space too, how much
>>> depends on how cosy you want to be with people *&)
>>
>>Tell me again, why Warrington?
>>
>Why not? I live there (in oakwood/birchwood) as well.
>Hate it.
>
I used to live there about 10 years ago, then I managed to finish the
tunnel.

The most interesting event was when the circus came to the Birchwood
arena and the Lions/Tigers were in cages just outside my flat! I broke
all records for getting from my front door to my car that week.

Shooty

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May 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/16/97
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Paul E. Jamison, Esq. wrote:

>
> Before I replied, I got to thinking abou this lack of importation.
> Has it worked both ways? Are there some "classic" Merkin situation
> comedies that you folks in Great Britain haven't the foggiest notion
> about? Did we, for instance, ever export to you
>
> I Love Lucy
They keep putting that on over here.

> The Honeymooners
This was on channel four a few years ago.

> Mr Ed
Used to be on as a morning show for the kids.

> Hogan's Heroes (I'd bet *that* one went over real well!)
This was on years ago, about a POW camp as I remember.

> Gilligan's Island
This one hasn't been on but it keeps getting mentioned in other shows

> Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In
Some of these have been on over here.

> Leave it to Beaver
Never heard of this one

> The Dick Van Dyke Show (which was actually quite good)
This used to be on

> My Mother the Car (usually blasted as the Worst Comedy ever on
> American TV, but not *quite* that bad. Just terrible)
Not been on over here

> The Beverly Hillbillies
Yup the story of a man named Jed etc. This keeps appearing

> Green Acres
Not heard of this.
>
> I could go on and on...
>
We get Bilko all the time, but its worth watching and we got:

Taxi, Mash, Cheers, Who's Boss?, Rhoda, Golden Girls, Seinfeld, Friends,
Larry Sanders, Gary Chandling Show, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeany (sp?), I
Spy, Married with Children, Archie Bunkers Place (US version of Steptoe
with the funny bits taken out), Home Improvement, Different Strokes,
Fresh Prince, Cosby, Hangin' With Mister Cooper, Mork and Mindy, Laverne
and Shirley, Happy Days, Sweet Valley High, Teenage Witch, Clarissa
Explains it All, Grace Under Pressure, Kirsty and Allie, Ellen, Evening
Shade.

And I am sure there are others that I have forgotten

Suzi

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May 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/16/97
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Paul E. Jamison, Esq. wrote:
>
> This Merkin has been having a tantalizing time following this thread,
> with the references to the Goon Show, the Goodies and of course Monty
> Python's Flying Circus. My first reaction was to reply
>
> "Blast and *conFUSTicate* [1] it all! Why the BLUE BLAZES don't we
> ever get this stuff over here?"
>
> The most likely answere is that somebody over here didn't think enough
> Yanks would find it funny or even understand it. (Me, I love the
> stuff. I've only gotten glimpses of the Goon Show and the Goodies,
> alas. I've enjoyed The Two Ronnies and Alas Smith and Jones, to drop
> some names.

>
> Before I replied, I got to thinking abou this lack of importation.
> Has it worked both ways? Are there some "classic" Merkin situation
> comedies that you folks in Great Britain haven't the foggiest notion
> about? Did we, for instance, ever export to you
>
> I Love Lucy
> The Honeymooners
> Mr Ed

> Hogan's Heroes (I'd bet *that* one went over real well!)
> Gilligan's Island

> Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In
> Leave it to Beaver

> The Dick Van Dyke Show (which was actually quite good)
> My Mother the Car (usually blasted as the Worst Comedy ever on
> American TV, but not *quite* that bad. Just terrible)
> The Beverly Hillbillies
> Green Acres

>
> I could go on and on...
>
> Anyway, did we ever inflict this stuff on you?
>

<RANT/>
YES YOU DID !!!!! (Nearly all of it!!!)(And none of its (OK.. _most_ of
its not) a patch on the Goodies, or the Goons, or Dad's Army, or lots of
other stuff from over here.. so why do they keep giving us US sitcoms
instead of home grown ones???)
</RANT>

--
Suzi

"You could turn it into Suzi,
and it sounded as though you danced on tables for a living.
You could put in a Z and a couple of Ns and an E,
but it still looked like a name with extensions built on."
Soul Music - T. Pratchett

the junkyard dog

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The Junkyard Dog notes that on Fri, 16 May 1997 11:26:27 GMT,
pre...@enterprise.net (the junkyard dog) writ the following:

>The Junkyard Dog notes that on Fri, 16 May 1997 01:11:36 GMT,
>pau...@dtc.net (Paul E. Jamison, Esq.) writ the following:


>
>>This Merkin has been having a tantalizing time following this thread,
>>with the references to the Goon Show, the Goodies and of course Monty

>>Python's Flying Circus. etc etc .
>a
oops sorry I deleted part of the heading
didn't mean to start new thread
sorry sorry Oh bugger

Ray, in the kennel of the Junkyard Dog.
Lincolnshire England.

Set the controls for the heart of the sun,
and run a level four diagnostic Mr Data.
My tea's cold.

the junkyard dog

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The Junkyard Dog notes that on Fri, 16 May 1997 01:11:36 GMT,
pau...@dtc.net (Paul E. Jamison, Esq.) writ the following:

>This Merkin has been having a tantalizing time following this thread,
>with the references to the Goon Show, the Goodies and of course Monty
>Python's Flying Circus. etc etc .

and then...


>about? Did we, for instance, ever export to you
>
>I Love Lucy
>The Honeymooners
>Mr Ed
>Hogan's Heroes (I'd bet *that* one went over real well!)
>Gilligan's Island
>Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In
>Leave it to Beaver
>The Dick Van Dyke Show (which was actually quite good)
>My Mother the Car (usually blasted as the Worst Comedy ever on
>American TV, but not *quite* that bad. Just terrible)
>The Beverly Hillbillies
>Green Acres

Yes we got all these except one. I don't recognise "My mother the Car"
Most of them were quite popular. Some are still running on satellite
and cable.

I think the Goons humour was probably a bit too British for mainstream
American audiences. Lots of references to things you would have no
knowledge of. Whereas British audiences, brought up on a diet of
Hollywood, could understand most American humour.
IMO some of the best TV humour currently running in Britain is
American. Some of it is unadulterarated trash, but you do with such
style.
Rosanne, however, has gone right down the toilet.


I've just read through that lot and the last line conjures up an
interesting scenario.

Suzi

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the junkyard dog wrote:
(loads of it snipped...)

> Rosanne, however, has gone right down the toilet.
>
> I've just read through that lot and the last line conjures up an
> interesting scenario.
>

She wouldn't fit, would she???

Paul Tomblin

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<blink><font face=Zapf-Dingbats>Use a newsreader,not a web browser
In a previous article, per...@mcc.ac.uk (C Speed) said:

>pdca...@aladdin.net (Piers Cawley) writes:
>>Tell me again, why Warrington?
>
>It's that heady scent of hops and washing powder.

"Washing powder"? So *that's* it! I worked in Warrington for about 8 months
in 91-92, and I never identified that other smell. I identified the hops and
the smell of gritty post-industrial depression and bleakness, but I never
identified that undercurrent of washing powder.

North West Water, New Town House, Warrington. OS Grid SJ6088. Don't ask how
I know which grid square it was in - I wasn't calling in an artillery strike
on the place, tempting as that might have bee.

BTW: IF anybody ever offers you a job working alongside people from Andersen
Consulting, make sure you have a provision in your contract for
time-and-a-half for overtime, even if you're salaried. And make sure that
*you* get to decide how much overtime you work, not some Anderoid. Or shoot
them.

--
Paul Tomblin (ptom...@xcski.com), Rochester Flying Club
<a href="http://www.servtech.com/public/ptomblin/rfc/">RFC Web Page</a>
<a href=http://www.beapilot.com/>Stop Dreaming, Start Flying</a>

Caroline Jones

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In article <3381a71c...@newshost.visgen.com>, Michelena Riosa
<mri...@visgen.com> writes

>On Thu, 15 May 1997 19:45:21 +0100, Martyn Clapham
><mar...@mclapham.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>You are leaving yourself open to some very dubious comments posting this
>>to afp.
>
>Yeah, she's a "tartte-in training" (my vewy foist)
>
>Ain't she grand!
>>
*blush* <- see, I'm practising already! (See later thread!)

>>Don't forget on here any comment will be mis-understood in the worst
>>possible way, and explanations of what you really meant will be ignored.
>

>Hmmmm. I think that was lesson one....
>>
I'm used to that - I have been called the original foot in mouth person!

>>Do you realise the effect on some of the older posters, I just hope they
>>have their heart pills handy!
>

>Well, you were all getting tired of me so....what the hey, I went into
>syndication!
>
>Michelena
>(who's asset is a weee bit too *bountiful atm, and is in need of "real
>life" dieting strategies....I admit it I wanna be a *babe*!
>
I'm feeling the same - so, yes, running mates it is!
--
Caroline (Wannabe Babe Mark II)

Tony Barr

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On Fri, 16 May 1997 09:34:23 +0000, Shooty
<an...@mrent.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>> Hogan's Heroes (I'd bet *that* one went over real well!)

>This was on years ago, about a POW camp as I remember.

Still showing on one of the German channels, but dubbed. Looks
really odd, Germans in German WW2 uniforms speaking German but out
of sync with their lips.

>> Gilligan's Island
>This one hasn't been on but it keeps getting mentioned in other shows

Yes it was. Pure garbage. Ooops, showing my age again.

Tony

The Gonzo Lager

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On Fri, 16 May 1997 09:34:23 +0000, Shooty wrote:
>(snipping a great deal of the treasure that we Americans generously
> donate to other countries in a grand display of cultural imperialism...)

>Archie Bunkers Place (US version of Steptoe with the funny bits taken out)
Actually, "Steptoe & Son" was made into "Sanford & Son". "Archie Bunker's
Place" was the final pitiful twitchings of All In The Family, which was
based on "Till Death Do Us Part".

Just sharing the useless knowledge that's cramming my brain.


*** For personal replies, change "not" to "net" ***
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The Gonzo Lager

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On Fri, 16 May 1997 11:26:27 GMT, the junkyard dog wrote:

>Yes we got all these except one. I don't recognise "My mother the Car"

"My Mother..." is deservedly one of the worst American television shows
ever made. It starred Jerry Van Dyke (brother of Dick), who is now on
"Coach".

>I think the Goons humour was probably a bit too British for mainstream
>American audiences. Lots of references to things you would have no
>knowledge of. Whereas British audiences, brought up on a diet of
>Hollywood, could understand most American humour.

The unfortunate thing with mainstream American audiences is that they tend
to be product of mainstream American schools. We Americans don't want to
know anymore that we have to in order to graduate. That's why British
comedy takes on a cult status over here. It goes over many heads so it
doesn't catch on as well or, as someone else said:
That seems to point up a significant difference between Europeans and
Americans. A European says: "I can't understand this, what's wrong with
me?" An American says: "I can't understand this, what's wrong with him?"

>IMO some of the best TV humour currently running in Britain is
>American.

If Britain ever comes in contact with a program called "Mystery Science
Theater 3000", then you will truly see what excellence we're capable of.
As for now, just enjoy the Simpsons.

> Some of it is unadulterarated trash, but you do with such
>style.

You could say that the extra ingredient is titilation.

>Rosanne, however, has gone right down the toilet.

No argument there. Thankfully, this is its last season.

>I've just read through that lot and the last line conjures up an
>interesting scenario.

Ah ha! So you do know about the super secret series finale! :)

Darrell Ottery

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In article <337C45...@capgemini.co.uk>, Suzi <suzi.holyoake@capgemini
.co.uk> writes

>Paul E. Jamison, Esq. wrote:
>>
>> Anyway, did we ever inflict this stuff on you?
>
><RANT/>
>YES YOU DID !!!!! (Nearly all of it!!!)(And none of its (OK.. _most_ of
>its not) a patch on the Goodies, or the Goons, or Dad's Army, or lots of
>other stuff from over here.. so why do they keep giving us US sitcoms
>instead of home grown ones???)
></RANT>

Money. Or rather as little of it as possible. You see, talent can cost
more money than no talent. Or so they tell me.

Beyond B5 and the occasional decent piece of satire I could very easily
save myself 80 quid a year.

--
Darrell [INTJ] - Dar...@lspace.org - http://www.toreador.demon.co.uk/

If bankers can count, how come they have eight windows and only four
tellers?

Paul E. Jamison, Esq.

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First off, I asked about what situation comedies we Merkins had
inflicted on you Brits

Then, on Fri, 16 May 1997 10:30:15 -0100, a little light bulb went on
over the head of Suzi (Suzi <suzi.h...@capgemini.co.uk>),
and she wrote, like an infinite number of monkeys, thus and so to
alt.fan.pratchett:

><RANT/>
>YES YOU DID !!!!! (Nearly all of it!!!)(And none of its (OK.. _most_ of
>its not) a patch on the Goodies, or the Goons, or Dad's Army, or lots of
>other stuff from over here.. so why do they keep giving us US sitcoms
>instead of home grown ones???)
></RANT>

My first reaction is to humbly apologize, but I'm an atypical Merkin
anyway and it wouldn't make the blasted things go away.

Anyway, that sure answered my original, and it's depresssing, let me
tell you.


The Official Michelena Riosa Testosterone Brigade
Undersecretary in Charge of the Irish Question

... and proud member of LUHU


Paul E. Jamison, Esq.

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On Fri, 16 May 1997 22:55:07 GMT, a little light bulb went on over the
head of The Gonzo Lager (b...@iac.not (The Gonzo Lager)),
and he/she wrote, like an infinite number of monkeys, thus and so to
alt.fan.pratchett:

>On Fri, 16 May 1997 11:26:27 GMT, the junkyard dog wrote:

>>Yes we got all these except one. I don't recognise "My mother the Car"
>"My Mother..." is deservedly one of the worst American television shows
>ever made. It starred Jerry Van Dyke (brother of Dick), who is now on
>"Coach".

We may as well not keep our British friends in the dark anymore about
this. So:

"My Mother the Car" did indeed star Dick Van Dyke brother Jerry. The
show's premise was that Jerry's late Mother was reincarnated as an old
automobile -- specifically a 1928 Porter. No such car existed, but it
was a typical 20s type of Merkin automobile. So Jerry purchases said
vehicle from the dealer, much to the consternation of his wife and
kids. Now his Mom can speak to Jerry via the radio, but she either
can't or won't speak to anyone else. So nobody can understand why
he's so devoted to the old jalopy, which is supposed to be funny.

There was a villain -- an old-car collector that needed a 1928 Porter
to complete his collection and would stop at nothing (at least in a
comedy) to get Jerry's car.

This program lasted only part of one season and only a handful of
episodes were ever shown. Not enough to justify syndication today, so
it's not really be rebroadcast since it was first. But it's still
remembered for some perverse reason.

What's sad is that my family actually *watched* the show when it was
on! Says a lot about our taste in comedies. (We watched Gilligan's
Island, too) And I can recall "My Mother the Car" so *vividly* today.
I can remember some of the gags, and the theme music (some 20s-type
honky-tonk thing sung by some group that *had* to have gotten a
straight commision). I can even recall a model kit offered by Revell
or some such company. Says a lot for my memory, blessing and curse as
it is.

Just to set the record straight.

Michelena Riosa

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On 16 May 1997 01:48:37 GMT, "Gidjabolgo" <orjan....@enator.se>
wrote:

>Michelena Riosa <mri...@visgen.com> considered herself like this:


>> (who's asset is a weee bit too *bountiful atm, and is in need of "real
>> life" dieting strategies....I admit it I wanna be a *babe*!
>

>Oh? I believe you are!

Lawks what the heck wazzat!

><fx: comes running in slow-motion, trips on his own feet and stays on his
>knees. Produces a @-->---- with an elegant snap with his fingers and gives
>it carefully to Michelena.

*thank you* My Dear Mr. Bolgo <takes lovely rose. > No it's
okay....got any dettol and a bandage? Don't worry the mark'll get lost
amongst the other scars in a day ot two....

>Looks deep into her eyes, and starts to blush
>furiously.

Perhaps it would be easier on you if I uncrossed them!

>Stammers: "Eh, look! Where does time fly? I really have to
>go..." turns his back on the innocent dove, and starts walking away,
>muttering: "Testosterone brigade, huh? Hmpf! They'll see, they'll all see.
>I'll just spend some time at the gym, and they'll see...." Disappears in
>the distance, hands stuck deep in his pockets>

Errr "innocent dove"?
Golly, I haven't been that flattered for ages....However I think that
the dazzle of your own lady love is perhaps making your perception a
bit weak...

Condsider yersself
"The Official Guardian of the"Innocent Dove" and White Cane Tester"

You've been drafted.

Michelena
--
"What the hell, anyway."
-Terry Pratchett


Michelena Riosa

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On Fri, 16 May 1997 21:51:36 +0100, Martyn Clapham
<mar...@mclapham.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <P$mzbSAARJfzEw$q...@arpeggio.demon.co.uk>, Caroline Jones
><caro...@arpeggio.demon.co.uk> writes


>>In article <3381a71c...@newshost.visgen.com>, Michelena Riosa
>><mri...@visgen.com> writes
>>>On Thu, 15 May 1997 19:45:21 +0100, Martyn Clapham
>>><mar...@mclapham.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>

>[ snippage of the fair[1] Caroline and our very own brigade commander ]


>>>
>>>>Don't forget on here any comment will be mis-understood in the worst
>>>>possible way, and explanations of what you really meant will be ignored.
>>>
>>>Hmmmm. I think that was lesson one....
>>>>
>>I'm used to that - I have been called the original foot in mouth person!
>>

>[ more snipping ]
>
>Hey, a contortionist!
>
>I would be most honoured if you would consent to marry me, staying just
>as you are.
>
>MartynC
>
>[1] This of course is 'fair' as in nice to look at, not as in blonde.
>Although the latter is probably required if you are going to be a 'babe'

Nonesense...blondeness is not required fore major *Babedom*

look at leo or Simes.....

and IIRC your own hirsuiteness is not exactly titian...

Michelena

>--
>http://www.mclapham.demon.co.uk/index.htm Mobile 0860 914817
>Member of LUHU and Michelena Riosa Testosterone Brigade
>Minion in charge of asset sharing. AFPurity 59%

--

Michelena Riosa

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On Fri, 16 May 1997 18:07:12 +0100, Caroline Jones
<caro...@arpeggio.demon.co.uk> wrote:


>Caroline (Wannabe Babe Mark II)

That perhaps should read "Wannabe Babe Mach II"

Our Lady of Pugnacious Pulchritude

Colette Reap

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Suzi <suzi.h...@capgemini.co.uk> wrote:

>Paul E. Jamison, Esq. wrote:
>>

>> Before I replied, I got to thinking abou this lack of importation.
>> Has it worked both ways? Are there some "classic" Merkin situation
>> comedies that you folks in Great Britain haven't the foggiest notion

>> about? Did we, for instance, ever export to you
>>
>> I Love Lucy

<snip rest of list>

>> Anyway, did we ever inflict this stuff on you?
>>
>

><RANT/>
>YES YOU DID !!!!! (Nearly all of it!!!)(And none of its (OK.. _most_ of
>its not) a patch on the Goodies, or the Goons, or Dad's Army, or lots of
>other stuff from over here.. so why do they keep giving us US sitcoms
>instead of home grown ones???)
></RANT>
>

While I agree with Suzi about Paul's original list, I am happy that
the likes of Cheers, M*A*S*H, and the funniest sitcom on TV here at
the moment - (well, IMHO anyway) 3rd Rock From The Sun, made it over.

Mister Eponym

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On Fri, 16 May 1997 22:55:07 GMT,
The Gonzo Lager <b...@iac.not> wrote:
<quoting someone else>

> That seems to point up a significant difference between Europeans and
> Americans. A European says: "I can't understand this, what's wrong with
> me?" An American says: "I can't understand this, what's wrong with him?"

Argh help me... I recognise this quote, but I can't put a name to it!
You will be showered with ppoints if you can provide an attribution for
it.

Tnx,
Dom
--
Kie estas la plej proksima masa^gejo?

Sarah Wittman

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On Fri, 16 May 1997 21:51:36 +0100, Martyn Clapham
<mar...@mclapham.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <P$mzbSAARJfzEw$q...@arpeggio.demon.co.uk>, Caroline Jones
><caro...@arpeggio.demon.co.uk> writes
>>In article <3381a71c...@newshost.visgen.com>, Michelena Riosa
>><mri...@visgen.com> writes
>>>>Don't forget on here any comment will be mis-understood in the worst
>>>>possible way, and explanations of what you really meant will be ignored.
>>I'm used to that - I have been called the original foot in mouth person!
>
>Hey, a contortionist!
>
>I would be most honoured if you would consent to marry me, staying just
>as you are.

don't you think that would be rather uncomfortable?

Sarah (OLF! OLF!)

Chris Hill

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In article <337ffa3d...@newshost.visgen.com>, Michelena Riosa
<mri...@visgen.com> writes
<snip>

>Condsider yersself
>"The Official Guardian of the"Innocent Dove" and White Cane Tester"
>
>You've been drafted.
>
>Michelena
Welcome aboard!

Don't forget to add the sig (correct format or else The Bellman will
shout at you :-) )
--
Chris Hill


The Official Michelena Riosa Testosterone Brigade

Postulate in Charge of Getting Michelena Classified by Jane's.

Michelena Riosa

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On Sat, 17 May 1997 14:58:37 GMT, Remov...@dircon.co.ukx (Listicath)
wrote:


>Is it time for a diet thread?

I think it is....Don't know about you, but I'm tire of feeling
unattractive....I really don't care whether my weight loss might
please others (okay, I lie here) but I really think I need to drop a
few just for my own feelings of being potentially pretty.

>Something that doesn't involve
>excercise and allows beer and chocolate? I could do with losing a few
>pounds/inches too.

I'm going to just try to eat less of everything, really cut the
protein (a bad thing for me as my mass is too much flesh, as well as
fat) and walk a hell of a lot more...perhaps if I lighten up, I might
do more.

Chocolate, alcohol and all other treats are included, as if I deny
them, I know I would fail...

Trying to find some images to guide me, a lean, mean fighting machine
sorta thing, but ladylike.

Michelena, in her tightest jeans and looking for the day when they are
too big.
>--
> Here's to women! Would that we could fall into
> Listicath their arms withoutfalling into their hands!
> Ambrose Bierce
>a...@dircon.co.uk http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~abj/

Chris Hill

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In article <337dde14...@newshost.visgen.com>, Michelena Riosa
<mri...@visgen.com> writes
<snip>

>>Chris Hill
>>The Official Michelena Riosa Testosterone Brigade
>>Postulate in Charge of Getting Michelena Classified by Jane's.
>
>I met a man named Janes through work the other day...Does anyoe know
>if the name was Jane or Janes for the books? I can't rmrmber...
>
Boring military trivia time:

The man's name was John Frederick Thomas Jane. His first book was
"Jane's All The World's Fighting Ships" - published in 1898.

No, really, I do have a life - honest!

Chris Hill

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In article <337edee4...@newshost.visgen.com>, Michelena Riosa
<mri...@visgen.com> writes

>On Sat, 17 May 1997 14:58:37 GMT, Remov...@dircon.co.ukx (Listicath)
>wrote:
>
>
>>Is it time for a diet thread?
>
>I think it is....Don't know about you, but I'm tire of feeling
>unattractive....I really don't care whether my weight loss might
>please others (okay, I lie here) but I really think I need to drop a
>few just for my own feelings of being potentially pretty.
>
<snip>

>I'm going to just try to eat less of everything, really cut the
>protein (a bad thing for me as my mass is too much flesh, as well as
>fat) and walk a hell of a lot more...perhaps if I lighten up, I might
>do more.

Got to be careful here - I'm no expert, but I think if you start
exercising and don't cut the calorie intake then all you do is put on
muscle. At least - that's what has happened to me (intentionally) - high
impact aerobics four times a week for the last 12 months has made a
*considerable* difference to my body shape.

Walking is good - burns lotsa claories.


>
>Chocolate, alcohol and all other treats are included, as if I deny
>them, I know I would fail...

Also, if you start exercising you can have all these with a clear
conscience (works for me! ;-) )


>
>Trying to find some images to guide me, a lean, mean fighting machine
>sorta thing, but ladylike.

Linda Hamilton in T2?

Michelena Riosa

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On Sat, 17 May 1997 18:20:40 +0100, Chris Hill
<Ch...@chris-h.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <337edee4...@newshost.visgen.com>, Michelena Riosa
><mri...@visgen.com> writes

>Got to be careful here - I'm no expert, but I think if you start


>exercising and don't cut the cal