[R] Possible inspiration or UU
GaryN
that is the case.
Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia) the SO brought me
in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read and I couldn't help
noticing that there is a certain similarity between PH and UU.
Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean, Bursar,
various named other Fellows whose function is not quite clear, a
cantankerous porter, a timid research student and an overweight housekeeper
etc.
A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
It just sounded slightly familiar - mind you that could be a result of all
the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad enough being
woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change your IV drip" or "We've
got some pills for you to take" but why the Hell can't they make hospital
beds long enough to stretch out in? You have to sleep in a semi-foetal
position and then, just when you've got as comfortable as possible, the
bastards wake you up!
I've actually stopped drinking for the duration of the takeaway pills so
that I don't have to go back.
gary
--
"I really like this jacket
but the sleeves are much too long"
Motorhead - 'Back At The Funny Farm'.
Reader in Invisible Writings
form, I would not bet on it. Possibly there will follow a lineage of
other earlier examples.
--
Reader in Invisible Writings.. Something to Ponder upon!
Geoff Field
> Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me
> if that is the case.
I haven't seen this comment before.
> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia)
I hope you're better now.
> the SO
> brought me in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read and
> I couldn't help noticing that there is a certain similarity between
> PH and UU.
>
> Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean,
> Bursar, various named other Fellows whose function is not quite
> clear,
These are stock standard university roles.
> a cantankerous porter,
Stock standard comedy role.
> a timid research student and an
Aren't they all?
> overweight housekeeper etc.
Stock standard comedy role.
> A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
Rowing has a long history in British schools and universities,
I believe. I rowed for my school here in Australia, too.
> A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
That could have been inspired by some of Sir pTerry's
earlier work (or could be a standard comedic device).
> It just sounded slightly familiar
Apart from the sporting side, most DW UU stories
include a lot of the same aspects.
> - mind you that could be a result
> of all the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad
> enough being woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change your
> IV drip" or "We've got some pills for you to take" but why the Hell
> can't they make hospital beds long enough to stretch out in? You
> have to sleep in a semi-foetal position and then, just when you've
> got as comfortable as possible, the bastards wake you up!
Just because you're freakishly tall ;-)
> I've actually stopped drinking for the duration of the takeaway pills
> so that I don't have to go back.
Probably a good idea.
Geoff
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Professional Geek,
Amateur Stage-Levelling Gauge
Chris Watt
"Reader in Invisible Writings" <markfo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Sadly, as I discussed with one of my lecturers[1], there is a lot of truth
within satirical writing. However I would be gratefull if someone could
enlighten me with examples of 3b @ Oxbridge etc.
I wish I had been elightened before going to Uni.[2]
Chris
[1] I think I said "Pratchett was right about this place."[3]
[2] I had read one of my late father's course books but I was already
there.[4]
[3] I had been waiting, with a PHP issue, to speak to the lecturer long
enough to determine that he was discussing the works of another author and
not doing what we are paying him to do.
[4]Given time I could dig out the relavant literary reviews.
steveski
> GaryN wrote:
[snip]
>> A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
>
> That could have been inspired by some of Sir pTerry's
> earlier work (or could be a standard comedic device).
Pre-dating Tom Sharpe? Porterhouse Blue was published in 1974. Did SirPT
publish anything along the lines of UU before then?
--
Steveski
GaryN
$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au:
> GaryN wrote:
>> Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me
>> if that is the case.
>
> I haven't seen this comment before.
>
>> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia)
>
> I hope you're better now.
I'm improved, although it's strange that I'm convinced that I was in
there at least 3 days whereas everyone else tells me it was from
Wednesday night to Friday morning.
>> the SO
>> brought me in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read and
>> I couldn't help noticing that there is a certain similarity between
>> PH and UU.
>>
>> Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean,
>> Bursar, various named other Fellows whose function is not quite
>> clear,
>
> These are stock standard university roles.
Umm, yes, but the Dean hates the new Master and the Bursar wavers on the
cusp of sanity whilst trying to be on both sides at once.
>> a cantankerous porter,
>
> Stock standard comedy role.
Who insists that tradition must carry on regardless of anyone's opinion.
>> a timid research student and an
>
> Aren't they all?
>
>> overweight housekeeper etc.
>
> Stock standard comedy role.
>
>> A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
>
> Rowing has a long history in British schools and universities,
> I believe. I rowed for my school here in Australia, too.
>
>> A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
>
> That could have been inspired by some of Sir pTerry's
> earlier work (or could be a standard comedic device).
>
>> It just sounded slightly familiar
>
> Apart from the sporting side, most DW UU stories
> include a lot of the same aspects.
>
>> - mind you that could be a result
>> of all the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad
>> enough being woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change your
>> IV drip" or "We've got some pills for you to take" but why the Hell
>> can't they make hospital beds long enough to stretch out in? You
>> have to sleep in a semi-foetal position and then, just when you've
>> got as comfortable as possible, the bastards wake you up!
>
> Just because you're freakishly tall ;-)
Nah, I'm only 6'.
Lesley Weston
> Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me if
> that is the case.
>
> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia)
You don't seem to be having much luck lately - was it flu? I hope you're
feeling better now.
> the SO brought me
> in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read and I couldn't help
> noticing that there is a certain similarity between PH and UU.
>
> Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean, Bursar,
> various named other Fellows whose function is not quite clear, a
> cantankerous porter, a timid research student and an overweight housekeeper
> etc.
>
> A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
>
> A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
So both PH and UU resemble any Oxford college, and probably any other
university or college of a university too.
>
> It just sounded slightly familiar - mind you that could be a result of all
> the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad enough being
> woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change your IV drip" or "We've
> got some pills for you to take" but why the Hell can't they make hospital
> beds long enough to stretch out in? You have to sleep in a semi-foetal
> position and then, just when you've got as comfortable as possible, the
> bastards wake you up!
The best one is when they wake you up so that you can take a sleeping
pill. This used to be the usual practice in Oxford hospitals, but
Vancouver ones seem to be a bit more rational - or perhaps it's just
that time has passed in both places.
>
> I've actually stopped drinking for the duration of the takeaway pills so
> that I don't have to go back.
Probably a good idea. Hope it works.
--
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time. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca, adjusting as necessary.
Lesley Weston
> "Geoff Field" <geoff...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:4af5d0d9$0$5993
> $afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au:
>
>> GaryN wrote:
>>> Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me
>>> if that is the case.
>> I haven't seen this comment before.
>>
>>> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia)
>> I hope you're better now.
>
> I'm improved, although it's strange that I'm convinced that I was in
> there at least 3 days whereas everyone else tells me it was from
> Wednesday night to Friday morning.
Maybe it's something about the John Radcliffe [1] that has that effect.
[1] So named to distinguish it from the venerable Radcliffe Hospital.
The first phase when it was brand new [2] was covered in white tiles, so
it was generally known as the John.
[2] And when I worked there.
Reader in Invisible Writings
"Dirk Gently's Detective Agency" during the Coleridge Dinner - which is
clearly a formal dinner of some standing and was large if not
particularly fine.
the apostate
Chris Watt
"Lesley Weston" <brightly_co...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hd6svf$21tm$1...@mud.stack.nl...
Must be an NHS thing, my Dad claimed the same thing happened to him.
Mind you he also claimed my mum wrapped him in a carpet and threw him out
the window in ICU, but that was another occasion.
richard e white
> Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me if
> that is the case.
>
> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia) the SO brought me
> in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read and I couldn't help
> noticing that there is a certain similarity between PH and UU.
>
> Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean, Bursar,
> various named other Fellows whose function is not quite clear, a
> cantankerous porter, a timid research student and an overweight housekeeper
> etc.
But many school stories would have some of thoes.
>
>
> A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
>
> A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
>
> It just sounded slightly familiar - mind you that could be a result of all
> the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad enough being
> woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change your IV drip" or "We've
> got some pills for you to take"
At least you can sleep. I have spent rthe last two days so sick that I can't
get to sleep at all. What I hate is they keep asking how much pain on a one to
ten scale, but never do anything about it.
> but why the Hell can't they make hospital
> beds long enough to stretch out in? You have to sleep in a semi-foetal
> position and then, just when you've got as comfortable as possible, the
> bastards wake you up!
>
> I've actually stopped drinking for the duration of the takeaway pills so
> that I don't have to go back.
>
> gary
>
>
For sonme reason that didn't make sence to me.
> --
> "I really like this jacket
> but the sleeves are much too long"
>
> Motorhead - 'Back At The Funny Farm'.
--
Richard The Blind Typer.
Lets hear it for talking computers.
Lets go for talking i-pods!
Lesley Weston
<snip>
> At least you can sleep. I have spent rthe last two days so sick that I can't
> get to sleep at all. What I hate is they keep asking how much pain on a one to
> ten scale, but never do anything about it.
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you feel better soon.
GaryN
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> At least you can sleep. I have spent rthe last two days so sick that
> I can't get to sleep at all. What I hate is they keep asking how much
> pain on a one to ten scale, but never do anything about it.
That's one that I've never worked out. Does a minor 'ouch' from a paper
cut count as 1 or about -5? Does lying on your back with more broken bones
than you can count on your remaining fingers count as 10?
Who decides anyway? If my ability to deal with pain is greater than the
whinging git in the next bed; who gets served first? My leg is broken in 4
places and I'm just gritting my teeth and getting on with it, he's stubbed
his toe and is shouting louder than my niece when she's short of milk.
Of Course It Fucking Hurts - I wouldn't be in hospital otherwise!
gary
Daibhid Ceanaideach
> richard e white <chip...@cox.net> wrote in
> news:4AFAE62C...@cox.net:
>
>
>> At least you can sleep. I have spent rthe last two days so sick that
>> I can't get to sleep at all. What I hate is they keep asking how
>> much pain on a one to ten scale, but never do anything about it.
>
> That's one that I've never worked out. Does a minor 'ouch' from a
> paper cut count as 1 or about -5? Does lying on your back with more
> broken bones than you can count on your remaining fingers count as 10?
>
> Who decides anyway? If my ability to deal with pain is greater than
> the whinging git in the next bed; who gets served first? My leg is
> broken in 4 places and I'm just gritting my teeth and getting on with
> it, he's stubbed his toe and is shouting louder than my niece when
> she's short of milk.
>
> Of Course It Fucking Hurts - I wouldn't be in hospital otherwise!
There was a scene in Scrubs where they used a chart with yellow smiley
(only not smiling) faces on it, each one showing a different amount of
agony, and matched the patient's expression to the closest one on the
chart. It was aknowledged that this did not actually tell you anything.
The impression I got was that they only used the chart when they didn't
have a clue what was actually wrong with the patient, just that they were
"in pain".
--
Dave
"All those with psychokinesis, raise my hand."
The Room With No Doors, Kate Orman
richard e white
I am getting better slowly. I just wish the pain would go away long enugf to get
some sleep. There doing tests, but so far I am finding out what isn't causing the
problem.
richard e white
The way I understand it they use the numbers you give them to tell if your
getting better or worse. This is paired with the fact that most wouldn't even
ask a guy with a stubbed toe the question. They would send him for x-rays
after the more important people. In my case two accadent people were taken
into x-ray before I was. They didn't find any blockage or infection and so
sent me on to the next test.
SeekUp
unbearable (I hope to never experience a 10). This from a scientist
acquaintance studying pain - he delivers metered amounts of pain to
volunteers and registers their response. The aim of his study was to come up
with a system that would measure how effective pain treatments are. Fwiw,
according to him women do in general have higher pain thresholds than men,
although surprisingly Asian women have the lowest pain thresholds of any of
the groups studied.
"GaryN" <ga...@scaryriders.com> wrote in message
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GaryN
news:hdjji2$l30$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
> Apparently for most people a 3 is just more than uncomfortable, and an
> 8 is unbearable (I hope to never experience a 10). This from a
> scientist acquaintance studying pain - he delivers metered amounts of
> pain to volunteers and registers their response. The aim of his study
> was to come up with a system that would measure how effective pain
> treatments are. Fwiw, according to him women do in general have higher
> pain thresholds than men, although surprisingly Asian women have the
> lowest pain thresholds of any of the groups studied.
<snip>
The point being that my, say 5, might be someone else's 8. I've taken a
fair amount of damage over the years and learned to live with it. Some
young whippersnapper who's never so much as sprained an ankle will be
screaming in agony over something that I would regard as a minor nuisance.
As a system for working out damage it has it's failings.
After having a half ton motorcycle fall on my leg, breaking everything
below the knee, I was asked, when I got to hospital, "How much pain are you
in on a scale of 1-10?". The answer was simple - "I don't know because the
ambulance crew gave me 2 doses of oral morphine and the natural endorphins
have kicked in as well and frankly I can't feel a damn thing"
Exit stage left for the 1-10 scale!
Oh, and please don't top-post, it's sort of frowned upon in this group.
John Wilkins
<ga...@scaryriders.com> wrote:
> "SeekUp" <seek.u...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:hdjji2$l30$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > Apparently for most people a 3 is just more than uncomfortable, and an
> > 8 is unbearable (I hope to never experience a 10). This from a
> > scientist acquaintance studying pain - he delivers metered amounts of
> > pain to volunteers and registers their response. The aim of his study
> > was to come up with a system that would measure how effective pain
> > treatments are. Fwiw, according to him women do in general have higher
> > pain thresholds than men, although surprisingly Asian women have the
> > lowest pain thresholds of any of the groups studied.
> <snip>
>
> The point being that my, say 5, might be someone else's 8. I've taken a
> fair amount of damage over the years and learned to live with it. Some
> young whippersnapper who's never so much as sprained an ankle will be
> screaming in agony over something that I would regard as a minor nuisance.
> As a system for working out damage it has it's failings.
>
> After having a half ton motorcycle fall on my leg, breaking everything
> below the knee, I was asked, when I got to hospital, "How much pain are you
> in on a scale of 1-10?". The answer was simple - "I don't know because the
> ambulance crew gave me 2 doses of oral morphine and the natural endorphins
> have kicked in as well and frankly I can't feel a damn thing"
That's why here they don't give pain relief until you get to the ER, so
I had my crushed foot in full stereo for an hour. Even then the
bastards didn't check my foot, and assumed it was my leg instead. I
still limp 30 years later.
Kevin Wells
GaryN <ga...@scaryriders.com> wrote:
>My leg is broken in 4 places
Don't go to those 4 places again.
Sorry could not resist that.
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Kevin Wells
John Wilkins <jo...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>
>That's why here they don't give pain relief until you get to the ER, so
>I had my crushed foot in full stereo for an hour. Even then the
>bastards didn't check my foot, and assumed it was my leg instead. I
>still limp 30 years later.
>>
When I broke my arm in a motorcycle accident the ambulance crew gave me
some gas, it was wonderful I felt no pain at all.
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Lesley Weston
> Lesley Weston wrote:
>
>> richard e white wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> At least you can sleep. I have spent rthe last two days so sick that I can't
>>> get to sleep at all. What I hate is they keep asking how much pain on a one to
>>> ten scale, but never do anything about it.
>> I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you feel better soon.
>>
>> --
>> Lesley Weston
>>
>> The addy above is real, but I won't see anything posted to it for a long
>> time. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca, adjusting as necessary.
>
> I am getting better slowly. I just wish the pain would go away long enugf to get
> some sleep. There doing tests, but so far I am finding out what isn't causing the
> problem.
That seems to be the way tests work, with the added advantage that what
they're testing for are usually the nastier things, so that eliminating
those also eliminates a lot of worry. Anyway, I hope it all goes well.
GaryN
news:9499b1b9...@talktalk.net:
> In message <Xns9CC1BEE411826g...@212.23.3.119>
> GaryN <ga...@scaryriders.com> wrote:
>
>>My leg is broken in 4 places
>
> Don't go to those 4 places again.
>
> Sorry could not resist that.
Given that you've taken damage in a bike crash yourself you're
forgiven...;-)
I didn't mind being seconded after motorcycle accident victims some years
ago when I'd broken my collar bone playing rugby - their need greater
etc...
Kevin Wells
GaryN <ga...@scaryriders.com> wrote:
>Kevin Wells <kevin...@talktalk.net> wrote in
>news:9499b1b9...@talktalk.net:
>
>> In message <Xns9CC1BEE411826g...@212.23.3.119>
>> GaryN <ga...@scaryriders.com> wrote:
>>
>>>My leg is broken in 4 places
>>
>> Don't go to those 4 places again.
>>
>> Sorry could not resist that.
>
>Given that you've taken damage in a bike crash yourself you're
>forgiven...;-)
The best bit was I was sitting on the side of the road holding my arm,
when this woman tried to take my crash helmet off, the trouble was it
was still done up, so I was being lifted of the ground.
I found it funny later.
>
>I didn't mind being seconded after motorcycle accident victims some years
>ago when I'd broken my collar bone playing rugby - their need greater
>etc...
>
>gary
>
>
>
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GaryN
> In message <Xns9CC37E9047072g...@212.23.3.119>
> GaryN <ga...@scaryriders.com> wrote:
>
>>Kevin Wells <kevin...@talktalk.net> wrote in
>>news:9499b1b9...@talktalk.net:
>>
>>> In message <Xns9CC1BEE411826g...@212.23.3.119>
>>> GaryN <ga...@scaryriders.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>My leg is broken in 4 places
>>>
>>> Don't go to those 4 places again.
>>>
>>> Sorry could not resist that.
>>
>>Given that you've taken damage in a bike crash yourself you're
>>forgiven...;-)
>
> The best bit was I was sitting on the side of the road holding my arm,
> when this woman tried to take my crash helmet off, the trouble was it
> was still done up, so I was being lifted of the ground.
>
> I found it funny later.
A guy crashed his bike near the Old Dear's place in Lincolnshire last
year, cocked a corner and went through the hedge. Presumably felt fine,
took his own helmet off and died on the spot as he'd disturbed the
broken neck that he'd caused himself.
You never can tell...
When I was hit I knew the leg was broken but I didn't let anyone touch
the smack hat because I didn't know what possible damage might be there.
Admittedly I'd elbowed myself out of the traffic lane when two people
lifted the bike off me but whilst I felt fine I wasn't going to risk it.
I even let the Paramedics cut �150 worth of leather jacket off me rather
than just take it off, better safe than sorry.
steveski
> Kevin Wells <kevin...@talktalk.net> wrote in
[snip]
>> The best bit was I was sitting on the side of the road holding my arm,
>> when this woman tried to take my crash helmet off, the trouble was it
>> was still done up, so I was being lifted of the ground.
>>
>> I found it funny later.
>
> A guy crashed his bike near the Old Dear's place in Lincolnshire last
> year, cocked a corner and went through the hedge. Presumably felt fine,
> took his own helmet off and died on the spot as he'd disturbed the
> broken neck that he'd caused himself.
>
> You never can tell...
We were taught "Never let them take your lid off in case they take your lid
off". Fortunately, ambulance men/paramedics seem to have hoisted this on
board these days <crosses fingers>.
--
Steveski