surfing Turtles
Riftwar001
Ok, I thought todays episode was good, I was suprised that this hole crossover
thing worked pretty good. The only thing I didn't like was the part with the
Ninja Turtles surfing in outer space with no oxygen or space suit. Also I
couldn't stand some of those turtle lines. Oh well.
Lisa L.
Sir STACK
riftw...@aol.com (Riftwar001) wrote:
Here'a theory. The "Silver Surfer" can carry anyone with him on his board,
thanks to an environmental aura, which surrounds his board at will. Maybe the
GG's have a force field around them, which keeps them from falling off to easy
and in case they lose their helmets or something.
_ This Has Been Another Pointless: _
_ Jesse Lee Herndon ( SirS...@aol.com ) _
_ Post/ Production. ©1998, whoever owns what! _
Riftwar001
>
> riftw...@aol.com (Riftwar001) wrote:
>
>>Ok, I thought todays episode was good, I was suprised
>> that this hole crossover thing worked pretty good. The
>> only thing I didn't like was the part with the
>>Ninja Turtles surfing in outer space with no oxygen or
>> space suit. Also I couldn't stand some of those turtle
>> lines. Oh well.
>
>Here'a theory. The "Silver Surfer" can carry anyone with him on his board,
>thanks to an environmental aura, which surrounds his board at will. Maybe the
>GG's have a force field around them, which keeps them from falling off to
>easy
>and in case they lose their helmets or something.
>
>
from another planet and has some special power. The Ninja Turtles breath
Oxygen and only fight. But you might be right about the force field around the
board.
Lisa.
CLFunaro
riftw...@aol.com (Riftwar001) wrote:
>> riftw...@aol.com (Riftwar001) wrote:
>>
>>>Ok, I thought todays episode was good, I was suprised
>>> that this hole crossover thing worked pretty good. The
>>> only thing I didn't like was the part with the
>>>Ninja Turtles surfing in outer space with no oxygen or
>>> space suit. Also I couldn't stand some of those turtle
>>> lines. Oh well.
>>
>>Here'a theory. The "Silver Surfer" can carry anyone with him on his board,
>>thanks to an environmental aura, which surrounds his board at will. Maybe
>the
>>GG's have a force field around them, which keeps them from falling off to
>>easy
>>and in case they lose their helmets or something.
>>
>>
>The Silver Surfer is completely different, compaired to the Ninja Turtles,
>he's
>from another planet and has some special power.
Jesse was giving an EXAMPLE. The GGliders could very well have shields
containing miniature atmospheres, not unlike the Surfer's arua. And, IIRC, Surf
possesses the "Power Cosmic".
>The Ninja Turtles breath Oxygen and only fight.
I don't think they ONLY fight, anymore than the Rangers do. They're both
reactive, not proactive. There's a threat, they show up to fight it, when it's
defeated, they do... Whatever mutants do their in freetime.
>But you might be right about the force field around the
>board.
It's the only explanation I can think of that keeps the Turtles from imploding
in the vacuum of space.
Rachel Ward
On 1 Mar 1998, CLFunaro wrote:
> riftw...@aol.com (Riftwar001) wrote:
>
> >But you might be right about the force field around the
> >board.
>
> It's the only explanation I can think of that keeps the Turtles from imploding
> in the vacuum of space.
I've heard this phrase before--"implode in the vacuum of space"--but it
just doesn't make sense to me. I'm the first to admit that I'm NO
astrophysicist, but why would being in emptiness crush someone like a
grape? I could maybe see *exploding*, but even then it doesn't quite make
sense.
Anyone with a background in astrophysics (or a parent with such a
background) want to explain?
And evidence from fictional works doesn't count. Arthur Dent didn't
implode when the Vogons tossed him out the airlock, but I don't think
Douglas Adams was going for accuracy.
Rachel
"Now is nat that of God a ful fair grace |Rachel Ward
That swich a lewed mannes wit shal pace |Department of English
The wisdom of an heep of lerned men?" |U.C. Davis
Chaucer, _Canterbury Tales_, I 573-575 |rhw...@ucdavis.edu
Montgomery
Rachel Ward (ez06...@mailbox.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: On 1 Mar 1998, CLFunaro wrote:
: > riftw...@aol.com (Riftwar001) wrote:
: >
: > >But you might be right about the force field around the
: > >board.
: >
: > It's the only explanation I can think of that keeps the Turtles from imploding
: > in the vacuum of space.
: I've heard this phrase before--"implode in the vacuum of space"--but it
: just doesn't make sense to me. I'm the first to admit that I'm NO
: astrophysicist, but why would being in emptiness crush someone like a
: grape? I could maybe see *exploding*, but even then it doesn't quite make
: sense.
: Anyone with a background in astrophysics (or a parent with such a
: background) want to explain?
: And evidence from fictional works doesn't count. Arthur Dent didn't
: implode when the Vogons tossed him out the airlock, but I don't think
: Douglas Adams was going for accuracy.
If you saw Event Horizon, a guy got forced out of an airlock, then blood
started spewing out of his nose, eyes, etc. I think it was the pressure
on his brain and arteries. I'm no astrophysicist either, but that film
was going for a realistic effect of that happening.
LowRadia
>: I've heard this phrase before--"implode in the vacuum of space"--but it
>: just doesn't make sense to me. I'm the first to admit that I'm NO
>: astrophysicist, but why would being in emptiness crush someone like a
>: grape? I could maybe see *exploding*, but even then it doesn't quite make
I thought it was exploding. The pressure in your body is equalized by the air
pressure on Earth and if you're in outer space there is no air pressure. The
pressure in your body pushes outwards and, without the air pressure to keep it
all in, you explode.
Raphael
Riftwar001 <riftw...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19980228060...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
> Ok, I thought todays episode was good, I was suprised that this hole
crossover
> thing worked pretty good. The only thing I didn't like was the part with
the
> Ninja Turtles surfing in outer space with no oxygen or space suit. Also
I
> couldn't stand some of those turtle lines. Oh well.
Heh...well, speaking as a NT fan, I'd like to say that most of us were
pleasantly surprised by how the show turned out (aside from the fact that,
I'm sure, ALL of us (PR/NT fans alike) could have predicted the plot...).
The fight scenes were well done, and we got to see some NT bloopers (which
they don't show on NT:TNM).
Shall we all sit back and count the number of days before the PR make a
visit to New York? <G>
Erin
Riftwar001
>I've heard this phrase before--"implode in the vacuum of space"--but it
>just doesn't make sense to me. I'm the first to admit that I'm NO
>astrophysicist, but why would being in emptiness crush someone like a
>grape? I could maybe see *exploding*, but even then it doesn't quite make
>
>
I'm no astrophysiscits either, but you would think a person would explode if
their was no oxyen. I mean in the movie Total Recall, when Arnold is out on
the surface of mars, his eyeballs are literally being suck out of their
sockets, and my physics teach has total me that would happen it their was no
oxygen. He even showed that movie in class.
Lisa L.
Riftwar001
>
>Shall we all sit back and count the number of days before the PR make a
>visit to New York? <G>
>
>
You know I don't think it's going to happen, they didn't do it with Masked
Rider.
Lisa L.
CLFunaro
Rachel Ward <ez06...@mailbox.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>On 1 Mar 1998, CLFunaro wrote:
>
>> riftw...@aol.com (Riftwar001) wrote:
>>
>> >But you might be right about the force field around the
>> >board.
>>
>> It's the only explanation I can think of that keeps the Turtles from
>imploding
>> in the vacuum of space.
>
>I've heard this phrase before--"implode in the vacuum of space"--but it
>just doesn't make sense to me. I'm the first to admit that I'm NO
>astrophysicist, but why would being in emptiness crush someone like a
>grape? I could maybe see *exploding*, but even then it doesn't quite make
>sense.
I've never _fully_ understood the concept, but I think I have a rough idea of
what the basic idea behind it is...
Space is the complete absense of pressure. No air, no atmosphrere, no gravity
(well, there IS gravity, but it's on a scale so large you and I are dust
particles)... IIRC, if DIRECTLY exposed to a vacuum, you'd have about 15
seconds of "useful consciousness" before you became lethargic (permanently).
So, hypothedically, you MIGHT be able to cop a Frank Poole (to use a fictional,
albeit well known example), and scramble back onto your ship with minimal
damage, if you were aware of what was happening to you. You don't really
"implode", per se... Not exactly, anyway. Your blood boils and evaporates from
the COLDNESS (yes, you read that right), and your internal organs collapse and
disintigrate from the lack of pressure (kind of like a more extreme version of
what happens to your ears when you go from normal elevation to a mountain, and
then back again). Your body would become a lifeless, flash-frozen husk of skin
and hair. But "imploding" just sounds... Nicer. This happened to some Russian
cosmonauts back in the 70's, I believe.
>Anyone with a background in astrophysics (or a parent with such a
>background) want to explain?
Well, I own a lot of reference books that handle topics like this... Does that
count? ;-)
<roots around for Straight Dope, Imponderables, Why Things Are, et all...
SOMETHING I read covered this>
>And evidence from fictional works doesn't count. Arthur Dent didn't
>implode when the Vogons tossed him out the airlock, but I don't think
>Douglas Adams was going for accuracy.
You mean Ford Prefect... ISN'T REAL?!?!
<sobs>
All my illusions are shattered. Dewy wash of youth... Gone.
Thank you SO much, oh dearest net.spouce. And just in time for my birthday,
too. You cruel governess, you. ;-)
Captn_Eclipse
iN SPACE YOUR bLOOD WOULD BOIL DUE TO THE PRESURE UPON IT...NATCH
Captn Out...
Rachel Ward
On 1 Mar 1998, CLFunaro wrote:
> Rachel Ward <ez06...@mailbox.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
[snip]
> >I've heard this phrase before--"implode in the vacuum of space"--but it
> >just doesn't make sense to me. I'm the first to admit that I'm NO
> >astrophysicist, but why would being in emptiness crush someone like a
> >grape? I could maybe see *exploding*, but even then it doesn't quite make
> >sense.
>
> I've never _fully_ understood the concept, but I think I have a rough idea of
> what the basic idea behind it is...
> Space is the complete absense of pressure. No air, no atmosphrere, no gravity
> (well, there IS gravity, but it's on a scale so large you and I are dust
> particles)... IIRC, if DIRECTLY exposed to a vacuum, you'd have about 15
> seconds of "useful consciousness" before you became lethargic (permanently).
> So, hypothedically, you MIGHT be able to cop a Frank Poole (to use a fictional,
> albeit well known example), and scramble back onto your ship with minimal
> damage, if you were aware of what was happening to you. You don't really
> "implode", per se... Not exactly, anyway. Your blood boils and evaporates from
> the COLDNESS (yes, you read that right), and your internal organs collapse and
> disintigrate from the lack of pressure (kind of like a more extreme version of
> what happens to your ears when you go from normal elevation to a mountain, and
> then back again).
So basically, if you're out in space without some sort of protective suit,
all these weird things that are counter to logic start to happen to you.
Great.
> Your body would become a lifeless, flash-frozen husk of skin
> and hair. But "imploding" just sounds... Nicer. This happened to some Russian
> cosmonauts back in the 70's, I believe.
>
> >Anyone with a background in astrophysics (or a parent with such a
> >background) want to explain?
>
> Well, I own a lot of reference books that handle topics like this... Does that
> count? ;-)
No, I'm sorry, only a person with a Ph.D. in astrophysics will satisfy my
curiosity.
> <roots around for Straight Dope, Imponderables, Why Things Are, et all...
> SOMETHING I read covered this>
Okay, at least you're not just making it up as you go along!
> >And evidence from fictional works doesn't count. Arthur Dent didn't
> >implode when the Vogons tossed him out the airlock, but I don't think
> >Douglas Adams was going for accuracy.
>
> You mean Ford Prefect... ISN'T REAL?!?!
> <sobs>
Of course he is. He's from a small planet near Betelgeuse. Get a grip.
> All my illusions are shattered. Dewy wash of youth... Gone.
Didn't take much....
> Thank you SO much, oh dearest net.spouce.
Oooh! If I'm "dearest," that means I've supplanted Cath in your
affections! Woo hoo!
> And just in time for my birthday, too. You cruel governess, you. ;-)
Oh, geez, that's still almost a week off.
Rachel
ObPR: I *still* think Astronema's voice is dubbed in.
CLFunaro
Rachel Ward <ez06...@mailbox.ucdavis.edu>'s entourage issued a press release
stating:
Logic has yet to explain black holes, psychic powers, and the appeal of Tom
Cruise, too.
>Great.
Could be worse... You could have found out "The Patty Duke Show" was
pro-cloning propaganda. "Identical cousins" my fanny.
>> Your body would become a lifeless, flash-frozen husk of skin
>> and hair. But "imploding" just sounds... Nicer. This happened to some
>Russian
>> cosmonauts back in the 70's, I believe.
>>
>> >Anyone with a background in astrophysics (or a parent with such a
>> >background) want to explain?
>>
>> Well, I own a lot of reference books that handle topics like this... Does
>that
>> count? ;-)
>
>No, I'm sorry, only a person with a Ph.D. in astrophysics
>will satisfy my curiosity.
Understood.
<makes note... "Must get Ph.D to satisfy Rachel". Oh, BABY! ;-)>
>> <roots around for Straight Dope, Imponderables, Why Things Are, et all...
>> SOMETHING I read covered this>
>
>Okay, at least you're not just making it up as you go along!
After a strenuous 5 minute search (hey, I'm lazy, ok?), I located the original
article. From "Return of the Straight Dope", by Cecil Adams, pages 147-150. I
was _going_ to quote the whole relevant section, but I wondered if that's one
of those sticky areas where greedy lawyers and government officials clueless to
the internet can sue you for plagerism/libel... Sorry, Rachel. I know this must
seem like a desperate ploy to weasel out of an arguement I'm losing, but this
article really exists. If you can get to a bookstore sometime, try tracking it
down, it's there. The jist of it is, your blood WOULD boil... Well, it would
turn to vapor, anyway. The "internal organs" I mentioned would include the
lungs, which would pop when the air inside of them expanded. The cosmonauts who
died from rapid decompression DID exist, btw... The event happened in 1971.
That's taken from the book "Soviet Manned Space Flight".
>> >And evidence from fictional works doesn't count. Arthur Dent didn't
>> >implode when the Vogons tossed him out the airlock, but I don't think
>> >Douglas Adams was going for accuracy.
>>
>> You mean Ford Prefect... ISN'T REAL?!?!
>> <sobs>
>
>Of course he is. He's from a small planet near Betelgeuse.
>Get a grip.
What would you like me to get a grip ON...?
>> All my illusions are shattered. Dewy wash of youth... Gone.
>Didn't take much....
Just a bottle of cheap brandy along with a bunch of empty promises and
shattered dreams! <weeps>
>> Thank you SO much, oh dearest net.spouce.
>
>Oooh! If I'm "dearest," that means I've supplanted Cath in your
>affections! Woo hoo!
Ummmmm... Errrrrr.... That is to say...
(think, Funaro, think! Think like you've never thunked before!)
I realized after Monty started dismembering himself in a disturbingly (yet
appropriately) Python-ish manner that I can't be greedy... Cath belongs to the
world. It's like trying to cage an eagle... She's meant to soar, high above us
all... I can't be greedy... That would be small and petty of me.
<pause>
What does that make you, then? Good question...
You're... You're... Like a princess. Still inaccessable, but at least slightly
less so than the noble eagle. That, and you've got a rockin' bod.
<crosses fingers, and prays that metaphor will suffice>
>> And just in time for my birthday, too. You cruel governess, you. ;-)
>
>Oh, geez, that's still almost a week off.
Are you implying I'm trying to somehow ELLUDE to the fact that my birthday is
approaching (March 6th)?! Rach, I'm _wounded_ (friday!)... I thought you cared.
<adorable pout>
>Rachel
>ObPR: I *still* think Astronema's voice is dubbed in.
Astronema: <pointing to master audio recordings of Melody Perkins' voice>
"DESTROY THEM!!"
Rachel Ward
You misspelled "CarrotTop."
[snip]
> >> Your body would become a lifeless, flash-frozen husk of skin
> >> and hair. But "imploding" just sounds... Nicer. This happened to some
> >Russian
> >> cosmonauts back in the 70's, I believe.
> >>
> >> >Anyone with a background in astrophysics (or a parent with such a
> >> >background) want to explain?
> >>
> >> Well, I own a lot of reference books that handle topics like this... Does
> >that
> >> count? ;-)
> >
> >No, I'm sorry, only a person with a Ph.D. in astrophysics
> >will satisfy my curiosity.
>
> Understood.
> <makes note... "Must get Ph.D to satisfy Rachel". Oh, BABY! ;-)>
You'll never make it through grad school unless you're doing it to satisfy
yourself.
> >> <roots around for Straight Dope, Imponderables, Why Things Are, et all...
> >> SOMETHING I read covered this>
> >
> >Okay, at least you're not just making it up as you go along!
>
> After a strenuous 5 minute search (hey, I'm lazy, ok?), I located the original
> article. From "Return of the Straight Dope", by Cecil Adams, pages 147-150. I
> was _going_ to quote the whole relevant section, but I wondered if that's one
> of those sticky areas where greedy lawyers and government officials clueless to
> the internet can sue you for plagerism/libel...
I don't think so--as long as you identify the source and put quotes
around it, it should be fine. Or you could just email me (I *am* very
interested!).
> Sorry, Rachel. I know this must
> seem like a desperate ploy to weasel out of an arguement I'm losing,
1). I wouldn't call this an argument.
2). I wouldn't say you were losing--I've just been applying logic to an
area that I know full well doesn't always follow "logical" rules. You've
got support from a published text.
> but this article really exists. If you can get to a bookstore sometime,
*snerk* I'm an English graduate student in a college town. I'm ALWAYS in
bookstores!
> try tracking it
> down, it's there. The jist of it is, your blood WOULD boil... Well, it would
> turn to vapor, anyway. The "internal organs" I mentioned would include the
> lungs, which would pop when the air inside of them expanded. The cosmonauts who
> died from rapid decompression DID exist, btw... The event happened in 1971.
> That's taken from the book "Soviet Manned Space Flight".
Thanks for the references!
> >> >And evidence from fictional works doesn't count. Arthur Dent didn't
> >> >implode when the Vogons tossed him out the airlock, but I don't think
> >> >Douglas Adams was going for accuracy.
> >>
> >> You mean Ford Prefect... ISN'T REAL?!?!
> >> <sobs>
> >
> >Of course he is. He's from a small planet near Betelgeuse.
> >Get a grip.
>
> What would you like me to get a grip ON...?
A little higher...higher...Aaaahhhh.
> >> All my illusions are shattered. Dewy wash of youth... Gone.
>
> >Didn't take much....
>
> Just a bottle of cheap brandy along with a bunch of empty promises and
> shattered dreams! <weeps>
Yer takin this a little hard, sweets.
> >> Thank you SO much, oh dearest net.spouce.
> >
> >Oooh! If I'm "dearest," that means I've supplanted Cath in your
> >affections! Woo hoo!
>
> Ummmmm... Errrrrr.... That is to say...
> (think, Funaro, think! Think like you've never thunked before!)
Rachel Ward IS Edutainment!
> I realized after Monty started dismembering himself in a disturbingly (yet
> appropriately) Python-ish manner that I can't be greedy... Cath belongs to the
> world. It's like trying to cage an eagle... She's meant to soar, high above us
> all... I can't be greedy... That would be small and petty of me.
> <pause>
What does that make me, then?
> What does that make you, then? Good question...
> You're... You're... Like a princess. Still inaccessable, but at least slightly
> less so than the noble eagle. That, and you've got a rockin' bod.
> <crosses fingers, and prays that metaphor will suffice>
Hey, I'm a sucker for guys who think I have a "rockin' bod."
> >> And just in time for my birthday, too. You cruel governess, you. ;-)
> >
> >Oh, geez, that's still almost a week off.
>
> Are you implying I'm trying to somehow ELLUDE to the fact that my birthday is
> approaching (March 6th)?! Rach, I'm _wounded_ (friday!)... I thought you cared.
> <adorable pout>
Very adorable. Tragically, I'll be in Palm Springs, net-access-less, on
your birthday, so I'll have to wish you happy either early or late!
> >Rachel
> >ObPR: I *still* think Astronema's voice is dubbed in.
>
> Astronema: <pointing to master audio recordings of Melody Perkins' voice>
> "DESTROY THEM!!"
Right. I'm not saying that that's not Perkins' voice, just that it looks
to me like the audio was recorded separately to the video.
Rachel
Saban: "Come on, Melody, more EXPRESSION!"
John Edward Kind
In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.980301090253.24336A-
100...@dilbert.ucdavis.edu>, Rachel Ward <ez06...@mailbox.ucdavis.edu>
writes
>> It's the only explanation I can think of that keeps the Turtles from imploding
>> in the vacuum of space.
>
>just doesn't make sense to me. I'm the first to admit that I'm NO
>astrophysicist, but why would being in emptiness crush someone like a
>grape? I could maybe see *exploding*, but even then it doesn't quite make
>sense.
>
>background) want to explain?
The theory is that because space is a vacuum the internal pressure of a
human would make them explode (sometimes called explosive
decompression). Some scientists argue that becuase space is so cold the
body would freeze so quickly the body would not have time to explode
(the freezing of body liquids would decrease the internal pressure and
make the entire body structure more rigid). As no-one has fallen into
space without a space suit yet, and there aren't many people out there
volunteering, neither theory has yet been proved.
>
>And evidence from fictional works doesn't count. Arthur Dent didn't
>implode when the Vogons tossed him out the airlock, but I don't think
>Douglas Adams was going for accuracy.
>
Sci-fi writers tend to use the theory that suits them at the time.
Alternatively, like Douglas Adams tends to do, they use their own theory
to make their story work better.
John-Edward
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| I don't need no big fat daddy |
| trying to change my life |
| when I just wanna relax! |
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| *Raven* |
|_______________________________|
CLFunaro
Rachel Ward <ez06...@mailbox.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
My apologies. R-O-S-I-E-O'-D-O-N-N-E-L-L. There. :-)
>[snip]
>
>> >> Your body would become a lifeless, flash-frozen husk of skin
>> >> and hair. But "imploding" just sounds... Nicer. This happened to some
>> >Russian
>> >> cosmonauts back in the 70's, I believe.
>> >>
>> >> >Anyone with a background in astrophysics (or a parent with such a
>> >> >background) want to explain?
>> >>
>> >> Well, I own a lot of reference books that handle topics like this...
>Does
>> >that
>> >> count? ;-)
>> >
>> >No, I'm sorry, only a person with a Ph.D. in astrophysics
>> >will satisfy my curiosity.
>>
>> Understood.
>> <makes note... "Must get Ph.D to satisfy Rachel". Oh, BABY! ;-)>
>
>You'll never make it through grad school unless you're
>doing it to satisfy yourself.
But I won't give up UNTIL I'm satisfied!!
(Yes, I like Richard Marx... Stop laughing!)
>> >> <roots around for Straight Dope, Imponderables, Why Things Are, et
>all...
>> >> SOMETHING I read covered this>
>> >
>> >Okay, at least you're not just making it up as you go along!
>>
>> After a strenuous 5 minute search (hey, I'm lazy, ok?), I located the
>original
>> article. From "Return of the Straight Dope", by Cecil Adams, pages 147-150.
>I
>> was _going_ to quote the whole relevant section, but I wondered if that's
>one
>> of those sticky areas where greedy lawyers and government officials
>clueless to
>> the internet can sue you for plagerism/libel...
>
>I don't think so--as long as you identify the source and put quotes
>around it, it should be fine. Or you could just email me (I *am* very
>interested!).
Naw, I was just being paranoid... I'll post it up. Besides, if that's grounds
for a lawsuit, .sigs would be, too.
Ok, here it is in it's entirety...
From "Return of the Straight Dope", by Cecil Adams/Ed Zotti (they're really the
same guy), all rights reserved, no infrigement on any and all copyrights is
intended, no profits are being made from this post.. Ok, I think that's
sufficent. :-)
All typos and grammerical errors in this reproduction are my own fault... It's
hard to read a book, paragraph by paragraph, type in what you've just read, and
then proof-read both repeatedly looking for mistakes.
"...There is such a thing as "explosive decompression," but that merely refers
to the sudden loss of pressure in an air- or spacecraft, not the effect on the
occupants. Thought your chances of surviving such an experience are slim, your
body would not explode (although see note below).
In fact, if you were able to scramble to safety quickly enough (as the
helmetless astronaut did in the famous scene from _2001: A Space Odyssey_), you
might emerge virtually unscathed.
To be sure, there are a few troublemakers who will give Cecil an argument on
this.
Some flight surgeons at NASA, for instance, say death in an vacuum would be
almost instantaneous.
They offer the following Technicolor scenario: your blood would boil, your
eyeballs would explode, and your lungs would turn to red slush.
But the medical literature suggests this view is exaggerated. For one thing, I
have never seen anything indicating your eyeballs would explode (although your
eardrums might burst).
It's true that in the absence of ambient pressure your blood and other bodily
fluids would boil, in the sense that they would turn to vapor.
But that's not as drastic as it sounds. Your soft tissues would swell markedly,
but they'd return to normal if you were recompressed within a short time.
It's conceivable your lungs might rupture, since in a vacuum the air in them
would greatly expand.
But experience suggests this is rare even if decompression is extremely rapid.
The chances are much greater if your windpipe is closed, making it impossible
for the expanding air to escape.
In any case, death would not be instantaneous. It's believed you'd have ten to
fifteen seconds of "useful consciousness" and it'd be several minutes before
you'd die.
If you were rescused within that time there's a decent chance you'd survive.
Research with chimps and monkeys suggests that if you were exposed to a virtual
vacuum for less than 90 to 120 seconds you might not suffer permanent damage.
That said, there _are_ circumstances involving explosive decompression in which
your body might be torn to bits.
This would result not from the exposure to a vacuum per se, but from injuries
caused by the accompanying air blast.
I have here a medical journal article about a case of explosive decompression
that killed four divers.
(They went from high pressure to normal rather than normal to vacuum, but same
idea.)
The bodies of three of the dead men were outwardly normal.
The fourth man, however, was forced through a narrow hatch by the rush of
escaping air and his body, to be blunt, was reduced to pot roast.
Naturally, the authors of the article felt obliged to include pictures,
including a close-up shot of what was left of the face. You might show them to
your friends next time they're chattering about about blown-up bodies."
So now ya know. And knowin' is half the battle!
>> Sorry, Rachel. I know this must
>> seem like a desperate ploy to weasel out of an arguement I'm losing,
>
>1). I wouldn't call this an argument.
A rousing debate between spouces, then? :-)
>2). I wouldn't say you were losing--I've just been applying logic to an
>area that I know full well doesn't always follow "logical" rules. You've
>got support from a published text.
A published text accompanied by comical illustrations by a chap named "Slug",
but a published text none the less!
>> but this article really exists. If you can get to a bookstore sometime,
>
>*snerk* I'm an English graduate student in a college town. I'm ALWAYS in
>bookstores!
<Bear from Conan O'Brien mode>
I's be in love!!
>> try tracking it
>> down, it's there. The jist of it is, your blood WOULD boil... Well, it
>would
>> turn to vapor, anyway. The "internal organs" I mentioned would include the
>> lungs, which would pop when the air inside of them expanded. The cosmonauts
>who
>> died from rapid decompression DID exist, btw... The event happened in 1971.
>> That's taken from the book "Soviet Manned Space Flight".
>
>Thanks for the references!
<bows> Just trying to make your life a skosh easier, m'lady.
>> >> >And evidence from fictional works doesn't count. Arthur Dent didn't
>> >> >implode when the Vogons tossed him out the airlock, but I don't think
>> >> >Douglas Adams was going for accuracy.
>> >>
>> >> You mean Ford Prefect... ISN'T REAL?!?!
>> >> <sobs>
>> >
>> >Of course he is. He's from a small planet near Betelgeuse.
>> >Get a grip.
>>
>> What would you like me to get a grip ON...?
>
>A little higher...higher...Aaaahhhh.
Wow, you have such soft, supple skin...
<massage, massage>
>> >> All my illusions are shattered. Dewy wash of youth... Gone.
>>
>> >Didn't take much....
>>
>> Just a bottle of cheap brandy along with a bunch of empty promises and
>> shattered dreams! <weeps>
>
>Yer takin this a little hard, sweets.
I'd never been "fouled" before. It was a new experience for me. I'm better now.
Same time next week? :-)
>> >> Thank you SO much, oh dearest net.spouce.
>> >
>> >Oooh! If I'm "dearest," that means I've supplanted Cath in your
>> >affections! Woo hoo!
>>
>> Ummmmm... Errrrrr.... That is to say...
>> (think, Funaro, think! Think like you've never thunked before!)
>
>Rachel Ward IS Edutainment!
You are in THAT dress! Bucka-WOW!
>> I realized after Monty started dismembering himself in a disturbingly (yet
>> appropriately) Python-ish manner that I can't be greedy... Cath belongs to
>the
>> world. It's like trying to cage an eagle... She's meant to soar, high above
>us
>> all... I can't be greedy... That would be small and petty of me.
>> <pause>
>
>What does that make me, then?
Good question! ;-)
>> What does that make you, then? Good question...
>> You're... You're... Like a princess. Still inaccessable, but at least
>slightly
>> less so than the noble eagle. That, and you've got a rockin' bod.
>> <crosses fingers, and prays that metaphor will suffice>
>
>Hey, I'm a sucker for guys who think I have a "rockin' bod."
So... Every guy you know, then? :-)
>> >> And just in time for my birthday, too. You cruel governess, you. ;-)
>> >
>> >Oh, geez, that's still almost a week off.
>>
>> Are you implying I'm trying to somehow ELLUDE to the fact that my birthday
>is
>> approaching (March 6th)?! Rach, I'm _wounded_ (friday!)... I thought you
>cared.
>> <adorable pout>
>
>Very adorable. Tragically, I'll be in Palm Springs, net-access-less, on
>your birthday, so I'll have to wish you happy either early or late!
That's alright. You can forward the drunken, skimpy pictures of yourself
enjoying Spring Break as a belated birthday gift, care of our liasion. ;-)
>> >Rachel
>> >ObPR: I *still* think Astronema's voice is dubbed in.
>>
>> Astronema: <pointing to master audio recordings of Melody Perkins' voice>
>> "DESTROY THEM!!"
>
>Right. I'm not saying that that's not Perkins' voice, just that it looks
>to me like the audio was recorded separately to the video.
But there's no way to tell if it IS actually Perkins' voice, either. :-/
>Rachel
>Saban: "Come on, Melody, more EXPRESSION!"
<Shuki's beeper goes off>
Shuki: "Sarah needs me on the GH set for some... Consulting."
<zip!>
White Diva
John Edward Kind wrote:
>
> The theory is that because space is a vacuum the internal pressure of a
> human would make them explode (sometimes called explosive
> decompression). Some scientists argue that becuase space is so cold the
> body would freeze so quickly the body would not have time to explode
> (the freezing of body liquids would decrease the internal pressure and
> make the entire body structure more rigid).
I don't know MUCH about space (I love learning about it though), but I
do know it's cold, has no gravity, no oxygen, and has a mondo vacum
(those Turtles did something to my vocabulary.) If we take all of these
elements into concideration, the human body would ultimatly explode
(think about marshmellows in a vaccum. they would expand) then freeze
(I'm not sure which would come first, but I'm gonna guess the frezzing
one does... Is anyone else cold?) After that, the particals of what was
left of the body (not much I would asume) would float around out there
for eternaty. Not to mention the fact that they would be moving super
fast concidering Newton's law of motion... (That which is in motion will
stay in motion, unless acted upon by another force.) I guess no oxygen
has nothing to do with this, but since I mentioned it... Oxygen would
have nothing to do with the destruction of the human body in outer
space.
Boy does that sound like an encyclopedia. Looks like I'm just adding to
your story and putting my 2 cents in...
> As no-one has fallen into
> space without a space suit yet, and there aren't many people out there
> volunteering, neither theory has yet been proved.
I'm guessing that this is true. But Russian astronuts have seprated from
the space shuttles before. From what I know about this, there are dead
Russian bodies floating around out there in space suits... But I could
be wrong...
> John-Edward
>
~~Brandy I wonder if the Rangers will run into any dead, floating,
Russian astronuts... ::thinks for a moment:: That would be an odd
episode...
<A white object, with red marks, is on the Astro Megaship viewing
screen.>
Cassie: What's that?!
TJ: Well... From my knowledge of Russian history, I'd say it's an
astronut...
Cassie: How do you know about Russian space history? I thought it was
classified information.
TJ: (nervous) Uh... Didn't they tell us that in history class?
Carlos: Not to my knowledge.
Ashley: You were sleeping in class. How would you know?
Carlos: (nervous) Uh... Teej, you know alot. Explain this one...
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