FanFic stories
Boomerang4242
Whether they involve existing characters or not. Thanks.
Dagmar Buse
Boomerang4242 wrote:
> Hi, does anyone know anywhere where there are some good PR fanfic stories?
> Whether they involve existing characters or not. Thanks.
Try www.fanfiction.net, or Jenga's Library, Cynthia Harrell's Command Center
Archives, The Fanfic Shoppe, Paladar's, to name just the biggest archives ...
you can email me for the URLs, if nobody can post them here ...
Dagmar
Meridian-Omega
<boom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Hi, does anyone know anywhere where there are some good PR fanfic stories?
>Whether they involve existing characters or not. Thanks.
>
>
Mara MacLeod's "Out of Time"
http://www.enteract.com/~silver/oot/rangers.html
"The Once and Future Rangers" (and everything else) by Joe Rovang at
http://www.mindspring.com/~ivoyles/rovang/fanfic.htm
Paladar has great archives at
http://www.paladar.com/fanware/index2.htm
I'm not too up-to-date on current fanfics, but these classics are
really great and bring back all those memories of days gone by.
And if you want a PR series created outside the television PR
continuity, where the sixth Ranger is a girl, one Ranger turns out to
be alligned with the bad guy all along, and the absolute largest Alpha
robot ever (an entire building big), check out my Omni Crusade series
at http://babylon.hypermart.net/omnicrusade/
Still debating on whether to release an entire Season Season or just a
couple more episodes to wrap up all those gaping endingless side
stories.
Happy Memorial Day,
Mark
Boomerang4242
Commander Crayfish
>Boomerang4242 wrote:
>
>> Hi, does anyone know anywhere where there are some good PR fanfic stories?
>> Whether they involve existing characters or not. Thanks.
>
>Try www.fanfiction.net, or Jenga's Library, Cynthia Harrell's Command Center
>Archives, The Fanfic Shoppe, Paladar's, to name just the biggest archives ...
>you can email me for the URLs, if nobody can post them here ...
Considering how Boomerang asked about particular stories, and not just the
sites which have them, I hope you will indulge me for a moment, Dagmar, in
branching off from your post with some recommendations from each of these
sites...
Rain Fletcher's "Earthsiege" is essentially a prerequisite if you plan to start
reading the classics of PR fanfiction. It is a crossover, yes, but its done so
well that if you weren't aware of this fact, you'd probably just assume up
until the big exposition starts coming your way that he's intending on
introducing something new and original to the PR universe. I know that's what
happened to me, anyway. Earthsiege is available at the Fanfic Shoppe and
Paladar's, and in illustrated form on Rain's own site at
http://members.aol.com/rainfletch/index.htm
Stephanie Moffett has done a number of solid fanfics in a variety of different
subjects... Her Highlander and X-Files crossovers are both wonderful, and I
highly recommend them. Not to mention the "Clone War" series, which ended up
taking the end to the Judd Lynn classic "Blue Ranger Gone Bad" in an entirely
new direction.
If you're a fan of the original series of the program, you'll probably enjoy
most of Kittie's own stories, archived only at the Fanfic Shoppe. I most highly
recommend "Losing the Blues," which deals with the aftermath of the MMPR bunch
losing a team mate, and then proceeds to spin off in a direction which I
wouldn't have foreseen. I also consider it to be the best work she has ever
produced.
Froog has done a number of wonderful short stories focusing on a variety of
characters, including one about how and why Billy changed so much over the
years involving a similar character to his initial persona that you might not
expect. "Apologies" is a magnificent piece which speaks to one of the most
burning questions I think a number of us had following the aftermath of
Countdown to Destruction, and "Where Do You Go?" is a tender character piece
focusing on Kim. My only regret is that some jerkweed made her take down this
great fic she had started involving Tommy coming to visit some little bar and
venting all of his frustrations as a former Power Ranger. I got kicked offline
halfway through the thing by a storm, and the next day I come to find out that
she had been forced to tear it down. Bastards. Froog's stories are available at
Cynthia's site, but I'd recommend you read them at her own World of Fanfic, she
can always use more hits there.
Matrix wrote two very nice untold tales set between A Line in the Sand and
Countdown to Destruction chronicling the fate of the Psycho Rangers, but
unfortunately "To the Tenth Power" seems to have invalidated whatever her
original intent had been for them, so I'm beginning to doubt that we will ever
see them finished. That depresses me, as they were both wonderful stories.
Certainly of a higher caliber than your typical fic these days. And I wanted to
know where the "Don Zor" thing was going, now that we had someone hot on the
trail of the identities of the Power Rangers.
(and Heather, just in case you're reading this, and you have actually
considered ending the series before completion, e-mail me! I have a cheap,
simple solution to fit PRiS/PRLG in with that you've been doing!)
If you enjoy cross-generational stories with a personal twist, you'll probably
enjoy Eva Beckwith's enigmatic, non-linear "Connections" series. She's done a
heck of a job placing links where you might not have expected to find them, and
feeding into our desire to learn more about the nature of this particular
universe. There's also her PRZ epic "One Entity of Good," available exclusively
as Froog's World of Fanfic. If you like Billy and Jason, you'll enjoy this.
As Meridian-Omega said, you just can't go wrong with Joe Rovang, patron saint
of Power Rangers fanfiction throughout the known universe. Once and Future
Rangers/Worse of Two Evils is a legend in our circles, and with good reason.
It's the sort of crossover that we all wanted to see, but taken in a mad
scientist direction which just makes it all the more cool. I agree with Derik
on this, WoTE is perhaps the sort of PR crossover and feature film that we'd
have gotten in a perfect world. It by its very nature has to be set in an
alternate timeline... Yet is perfectly in-continuity and would count as canon,
given its backstory. But there's also Ranger Moon, the Zordon of Eltar Show,
the Journal of William Cranston... Lots of good stuff. Not to mention his
latest piece, the long-overdue "PRZ/PRT: A Heart of Gold."
If you're jonesing for some hot parody action, then you're in luck. Our own
Monty "Johnnycakes" Montgomery is unquestioned and unsurpassed lord and master
of the acerbic tongue and rapier wit. Monty's stuff isn't available on any
website that I know of, at least not his complete works... You'd be best off to
try looking through Dejanews. Me, I'm still crossing various parts of my
anatomy in the hopes that he's eventually going to complete "Lost Galaxy: A PR
Mishap."
Dagmar has done quite a number of stories herself, alternating between the
standard PG/PG-13 fare you tend to find in PR circles and some more... Adult
pieces. Given that I find there to be a dearth of good PR erotica out there, I
welcome anyone who can do it well, but her tamer fics are also quite good. And
yes, Daggy, I promise I will get around to reading Casting Stones very shortly.
So stop hitting me! It HURTS! ;-)
Derik Smith has done several nice character pieces, among them the tender
"Goodbye, Old Friend" and "Angel of Mine," each of which focus on a couple of
characters and relationships involving them which tend to be glossed over in PR
fanfiction. There's also both of his quiet, character-driven "Untitled"
stories, each worth a looksie.
Mandi Ohlin has done several wonderful pieces stretched out across multiple
incarnations, including the very first songfic ever done in PR fandom that I
know of, "Don't Speak." It's almost worth all of the abuse the subset has taken
through lesser authors to see the tear-jerking tale Mandi wrings out of that
song. There's also her poignant Post-CtD tale, "Time," which does a rather nice
job of wrapping up all of the untied plots left in the wake of the PRiS finale.
And lastly, and the fic which got me interested in B:TVS in the first place,
the New Blood series. It asks the question of just where exactly Mike went
before the Magna Defender's spirit allowed them both to escape from Mirinoi in
the first place. And given the later revelation of Mirinoi's own
dimension-hopping in Journey's End, and to a lesser extent Triple Force, I
think the later stories she does set in this universe are bound to be
interesting.
And lastly, there's the pinnacle which all wannabe PR epics and grand sagas
aspire to, and ultimately fall short of, Ellen Brand's Personality Conflicts
series. Just trust me on this one. The others can emulate the mechanics, can
try to create their own retroactive backstory, they can't come anywhere close
to the heart and the soul of what makes this such a killer series. The
unfathomable scale and vastness, the neat twists and surprises, the fun
cameos... Perhaps one of the three applications in the history of PR fanfiction
of original Rangers who are NOT Mary Sue characters, and actually LEND
themselves well to the existing team dynamics without barging their way into
center stage. In my mind, the only series to use multiple active teams of
Rangers at once that actually knows HOW to use them without busying up the
stories/series to the point of being an incomprehensible mess. And some
pants-wettingly terrifying original villains.
Looking back on the authors and stories I've tallied, I know it doesn't look
like very much, but you need to keep in mind that I'm the guy who is of the
mind that there are only maybe fifteen good PR fanfic authors out there, EVER.
Twenty at maximum. Two of which are retired. And in case there's anyone who I
accidentally left off, please, don't take not being included here as a slight,
I didn't even remember Mandi until about two minutes before I was all set to
send off this post.
"You're nuts to let a girl go who calls you "Lottie." I tell you
that as a friend." - Charlie Sheen, _Being John Malkovich_.
*****************CLFu...@aol.com*****************
KeyMatrix
clfu...@aol.com (Commander Crayfish) wrote:
>Dagmar Buse rdg...@cityweb.de wrote:
>
>>Boomerang4242 wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, does anyone know anywhere where there are some good PR
fanfic stories?
>>> Whether they involve existing characters or not. Thanks.
>Matrix wrote two very nice untold tales set between A Line in
the Sand and
>Countdown to Destruction chronicling the fate of the Psycho
Rangers, but
>unfortunately "To the Tenth Power" seems to have invalidated
whatever her
>original intent had been for them, so I'm beginning to doubt
that we will ever
>see them finished. That depresses me, as they were both
wonderful stories.
>Certainly of a higher caliber than your typical fic these days.
And I wanted to
>know where the "Don Zor" thing was going, now that we had
someone hot on the
>trail of the identities of the Power Rangers.
>(and Heather, just in case you're reading this, and you have
actually
>considered ending the series before completion, e-mail me! I
have a cheap,
>simple solution to fit PRiS/PRLG in with that you've been
doing!)
I already came up with a solution for the Psycho plotline that
should work pretty good with what I already had planned, but I'd
still love to hear ideas. :)
I am planning to finish the next story very soon ("The Two-Day
War") but I've been sidetracked by school and some other fics
("Quietus,"(after TTDW, coming soon) "Reflections in Time," (a
Quantum Leap/Angel crossover, vanished after fanfic.net was taken
down, but I hope to complete it someday nonetheless), "Second
Self" and "Confessions of an Alien Invader at Christmastime" (A
couple of First Wave stories) and a rather large heap of false
starts.) My brain has been off track recently. Seriously.
Anyway, thanks for the plug. :D
-Matrix (keym...@excite.ca)
Tales of the Resistance First Wave Fanfiction:
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Froog T. SqueezyCheese
<20000602221242...@ng-cn1.aol.com>...
>Froog has done a number of wonderful short stories focusing on a variety of
>characters, including one about how and why Billy changed so much over the
>years involving a similar character to his initial persona that you might
not
>expect. "Apologies" is a magnificent piece which speaks to one of the most
>burning questions I think a number of us had following the aftermath of
>Countdown to Destruction, and "Where Do You Go?" is a tender character
piece
>focusing on Kim. My only regret is that some jerkweed made her take down
this
>great fic she had started involving Tommy coming to visit some little bar
and
>venting all of his frustrations as a former Power Ranger. I got kicked
offline
>halfway through the thing by a storm, and the next day I come to find out
that
>she had been forced to tear it down. Bastards. Froog's stories are
available at
>Cynthia's site, but I'd recommend you read them at her own World of Fanfic,
she
>can always use more hits there.
>If you enjoy cross-generational stories with a personal twist, you'll
probably
>enjoy Eva Beckwith's enigmatic, non-linear "Connections" series. She's done
a
>heck of a job placing links where you might not have expected to find them,
and
>feeding into our desire to learn more about the nature of this particular
>universe. There's also her PRZ epic "One Entity of Good," available
exclusively
>as Froog's World of Fanfic. If you like Billy and Jason, you'll enjoy this.
Thank you so immensely for the plug. But there is one point I would like to
clear up. I was not _forced_ to tear it down. I probably could have left
it up for weeks before I started getting stern letters.
The fanfic was a crossover with a series of short stories that I really
love. After I posted it, I found out that the author of the stories has a
no-tolerance policy on fanfics. And that is entirely reasonable, and does
not make him a bastard. He makes his _living_ with short stories. I have
no right to cut into the territory of someone I respect as much as I do him,
and I apologize for the irritation it must have caused some people.
"Still, it's fun to just send down something stupid for the sole purpose of
annoying them."--Lord Zedd (Ranger Files by Al Solomon)
Froog T. SqueezyCheese
http://members.xoom.com/froog/World
Dagmar Buse
> reading the classics of PR fanfiction.
Couldn't agree more. Even though I've never seen Voltron, it didn't matter -- it's
a riveting story that has almost everything. And I trashed my whole hardcopy once I
found Rain's illustrated version to get a new printout -- online, too, to get the
colors and pictures, and I pay for every single minute I'm online. It was more than
worth it!
> Stephanie Moffett has done a number of solid fanfics in a variety of different
> subjects... Her Highlander and X-Files crossovers are both wonderful, and I
> highly recommend them. Not to mention the "Clone War" series, which ended up
> taking the end to the Judd Lynn classic "Blue Ranger Gone Bad" in an entirely
> new direction.
Steph now posts as "Rap". Go see her (and Froog, and me *grin*) in action in
"Attack of the Yosties" and its sequel, "Attack of the Yosties 2: Initiation" by
Peregrine and Mele ...
> Froog has done a number of wonderful short stories focusing on a variety of
> characters, including one about how and why Billy changed so much over the
> years involving a similar character to his initial persona that you might not
> expect. "Apologies" is a magnificent piece which speaks to one of the most
> burning questions I think a number of us had following the aftermath of
> Countdown to Destruction, and "Where Do You Go?" is a tender character piece
> focusing on Kim. My only regret is that some jerkweed made her take down this
> great fic she had started involving Tommy coming to visit some little bar and
> venting all of his frustrations as a former Power Ranger. I got kicked offline
> halfway through the thing by a storm, and the next day I come to find out that
> she had been forced to tear it down. Bastards. Froog's stories are available at
> Cynthia's site, but I'd recommend you read them at her own World of Fanfic, she
> can always use more hits there.
And you can all join me in nagging her to continue writing the sequel to
"Apologies", one of the best short pieces it's ever been my pleasure to read!
Chris, if you care to send me your snail mail addy, I'll photocopy my printout of
the "Callahan's" crossover for you ... I swear, if I hadn't known Froog wrote it,
I'd have believed Spider Robinson had tried his hand at doing a crossover to PR
himself, it was that good!
For all of you who suffered/sat through Advanced English classes, Matrix has also
written an extremely funny series about the "BookRangers". It's posted at her site
(sorry, no URL), and it pokes tongue-in-cheek fun at all those literary devices you
love to see ... Alliteration, Deus Ex Machina, Anti-Hero ...
> If you enjoy cross-generational stories with a personal twist, you'll probably
> enjoy Eva Beckwith's enigmatic, non-linear "Connections" series. She's done a
> heck of a job placing links where you might not have expected to find them, and
> feeding into our desire to learn more about the nature of this particular
> universe. There's also her PRZ epic "One Entity of Good," available exclusively
> as Froog's World of Fanfic. If you like Billy and Jason, you'll enjoy this.
It's long, it's excellent, and I'm privileged to be beta-reading it. You still
here? Shoo! Go read, enjoy, and give feedback! *grin*
> As Meridian-Omega said, you just can't go wrong with Joe Rovang, patron saint
> of Power Rangers fanfiction throughout the known universe.
And as a writer, a heartfelt THANK YOU, JOE for your Writer's Guide! What would we
all do without you -- especially now that Amit has taken down the Online
Archives?!?
Not to forget his hilarious Movie Parodies ... "Show them your thing, Tommy!" still
cracks me up every time ...
> Dagmar has done quite a number of stories herself, alternating between the
> standard PG/PG-13 fare you tend to find in PR circles and some more... Adult
> pieces. Given that I find there to be a dearth of good PR erotica out there, I
> welcome anyone who can do it well, but her tamer fics are also quite good. And
> yes, Daggy, I promise I will get around to reading Casting Stones very shortly.
> So stop hitting me! It HURTS! ;-)
Well, well, well ... *cracks whip* ... thanks for the plug, Chris ... now where am
I going to put it, hmmmm? Seriously, though, I'm flattered to be included in this
list. Couldn't find myself in better company ....
> Derik Smith has done several nice character pieces, among them the tender
> "Goodbye, Old Friend" and "Angel of Mine," each of which focus on a couple of
> characters and relationships involving them which tend to be glossed over in PR
> fanfiction. There's also both of his quiet, character-driven "Untitled"
> stories, each worth a looksie.
And don't I wish his two "Untitled" stories would either be continued or expanded
into full-blown fics!
> Mandi Ohlin has done several wonderful pieces stretched out across multiple
> incarnations, including the very first songfic ever done in PR fandom that I
> know of, "Don't Speak."
>
It WAS the very first songfic, but what's definitely worth a closer look is her
PR/Stargate crossover -- and I could shoot myself for forgetting the title! Argh!
Anyway, it's about a Lt. Jason Scott joining the Stargate SG 1 outfit ... quite
long, quite excellent, and the sequel is already in the works. *grin*
> And lastly, there's the pinnacle which all wannabe PR epics and grand sagas
> aspire to, and ultimately fall short of, Ellen Brand's Personality Conflicts
> series. Just trust me on this one.
Gladly. Any series that has Lord Zedd turned Human again, involved in a vicious
swordfight with Ecliptor, and in the middle of it all those two start exchanging
tips on "How to raise a Human Female Teenager" can't be anything but fantastic. PC
has EVERYTHING -- humor, action, romance, heartbreak, alternate universes, magic,
time paradoxes, Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, Masked Rider, Sailor Moon, Ghostbusters
and Zordon on trial. Oh, and afp-r regulars, too. *wink*
To add to Chris' list, other good writers to look out for (and I know I'm leaving
out a lot; obviously, I can only judge those I've read myself) are Cynthia Harrell
for almost everything, Jeremy Ray Logsdon, Peregrine for a fantastic Quest
story/series dealing with the Ninjetti Powers, Cheryl Roberts for Tommy/Kim stories
(both adult and PG), Hellfire for Evil Rangers, Diane Douglas, Naomi Tilley if you
like Jason tortured, killed, raped, maimed ... (yes, she likes the character!) ...
all of these authors have the advantage of writing good, grammatical English, too.
(I used to teach English; that's important to me. So sue me!)
Anyway, there's a lot of great material out there, both at the Big Sites and at
lesser-known ones, like Matrix's and Froog's. You just have to start somewhere ...
Dagmar
Sara Craycraft
Commander Crayfish <clfu...@aol.com> wrote in message
> Considering how Boomerang asked about particular stories, and not just the
> sites which have them, I hope you will indulge me for a moment, Dagmar, in
> branching off from your post with some recommendations from each of these
> sites...
Could you provide links for all of these sites? The stories you described
seem terribly interresting, and Billy was my favorite ranger. I'd love to
read any fanfics written about him. Thanks
Sara
Jill
her website, written by a friend of hers.
I'll start speaking first person, now.
The first of a questionable number, Little Lost Ranger. What happens when
the Jetman Blue Swallow gets sucked along with the Vyram through a mysterious
vortex? Well, she meets some bizarre superheroes.
www.fortunecity.com/tatooine/halojones/75/jetman/llr.html
some excerpts:
"O.K. O.K... calm down," she told herself as she walked through the strange
place she had just been dumped in. "There's got to be something around here I
can recognize." But there was not, the city she was in looked a little like
Tokyo, but the streets were too wide, the buildings too far apart. The air
was dry and hot. She came to an open grassy area where a lot of foreigners
were playing and laughing. "Looks like a park," she muttered. There was a
large white sign in English. "A-n-ge-lu-gu-ro-vu-pa-ru-ku...Angel Grove
Park... Angel Grove?!? Where on Earth is Angel Grove?!? Maybe... maybe I not
on Earth any more... no don't be silly of course I'm on Earth. Why would
signs on an alien planet be in English? Where else would I be?"
"Good grief, these guys' costumes look like pajamas. And what's with the
stupid looking shapes on their helmets?" she chuckled. Even the name sounded
like something out of a bad comic book story. The colors were weird, too. For
one thing there was no white or black ranger, but there were green, pink and
gold instead. The fact that the yellow and pink one both had skirts led her
to believe they were girls. "Wait a minute. The yellow one's a... girl? And
the blue one's a... boy? Man, is this team ever messed up." She closed the
paper and placed it back on the bench, then she happened to glance at the
date and nearly went into shock.
And there is the sequel. Billy, having seen the Jetman off from the Command
Center, is next to go. at
www.fortunecity.com/tatooine/halojones/75/sentai/zrprzyu.html is When
Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth
Just then he looked up and something caught his eye. It was a green candle on
a podium in the center of the room. He got up to take a closer look. It was
thinner than the one Rita had used to drain Tommy's powers, back in the old
days when he was still a Ranger. The thought made him a nostalgic, but he
fought it down. He had more important things on his mind. If the Green Ranger
in this world is connected to this candle, than maybe I should put out the
flame and stop the power drain, he thought as he prepared to blow it out. But
one stray thought stopped him. It was something Zordon had said when they
discovered Ako. "THERE ARE AN INFINITE NUMBER OF DIMENSIONS IN EXISTENCE,
WHERE ANYTHING IS CONCEIVABLY POSSIBLE."
and a teaser for the in-process third story, not yet posted anywhere, The Ki
to Your Inner Power:
"It's your fault she left!"
Billy blinked in surprise. "She said she was coming right back."
"Not after what you did to her!"
That was enough. What was this Ko-boy on about? Billy set the thick piece
of toast Rin had given him down and glared at the child. "Look, kid -- "
"KO!" the boy shouted back.
Billy gritted his teeth. "Fine. Ko, I don't know what you think I did to
Rin but I can assure you all we did is talk, and I fell asleep on her couch."
He took a sip of his orange juice.
"You slept with her didn't you," the boy said miserably.
Billy spat out his drink in surprise and looked at the boy in shock. "Where
the hell did you get an idea like that?"
"So it's true then." The boy glared miserably at him.
Billy sighed in frustration and gave Ko an annoyed look. "Have I offended
you in another life that I'm not aware of?"
--
Short, blonde and sarcastic. Living in Japan.
http://www.jillun.com/sentaisp.html
for all your spoiling needs.
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Before you buy.
Commander Crayfish
>Thank you so immensely for the plug. But there is one point I would like to
>clear up. I was not _forced_ to tear it down. I probably could have left
>it up for weeks before I started getting stern letters.
>The fanfic was a crossover with a series of short stories that I really
>love. After I posted it, I found out that the author of the stories has a
>no-tolerance policy on fanfics. And that is entirely reasonable, and does
>not make him a bastard. He makes his _living_ with short stories. I have
>no right to cut into the territory of someone I respect as much as I do him,
>and I apologize for the irritation it must have caused some people.
But there's still a difference to that sort of thing. What was it Riddler's
friend said in that wonderful essay, that fanfiction is a force which cannot be
controlled or held back by any force out there, including lawyers? You're not
PUBLISHING the stories, are you? You're not doing anything to step on the
original creator's toes. In no way is publishing a fanfic for "limited"
distribution in PR fandom any different than simply thinking up your own idea
to use these characters that never gets published in a novel with other short
stories by the original author.
The idea that you can institute a "no-tolerance" policy on something as
innocuous as fanfics is LUDICROUS. As Peter David has said many a time in the
past, authors do not write to make money, nor do they write for other people.
They write for themselves, to satisfy some little voice, some inkling in the
back of their heads. And if they can do something with that, good for them.
Writing is something you do because you have no other choice available to you
on the matter. Just as an example... If there was a television series out there
whose producers said they would not allow fanfics, would that stop them? No, if
anything it would make the authors more adamant to get their work out, and not
have it repressed. And they would be right. And really... What are they going
to be able to do about it? So you lose their respect as individuals. I never
wanted to have, oh, say, Rick Berman's blessing in life, I just wanna use Garak
in a fic.
It seems to me, anyway, who has no idea who this author is, and has no real
clue what he's talking about (like that's ever stopped me before) that this guy
is a real control freak who is so terrified by the prospect of anyone else out
there, anywhere, so much as thinking of touching his babies that he gets all
Gestapo when fics come up. I'd be surprised if he allows them to have newsgroup
discussion of his work, then. After all, in the free exchange of ideas and
concepts... Gasp... Someone might have an ORIGINAL THOUGHT pertaining to them!
Heavens to mercy me. Can't have that. Mailing lists and IRC channels would be
out then, too. Fanfiction is merely a symptom of the free exchange of ideas
relating to a newsgroup, and really, any form of organized discussion of a
given topic. To banish them entirely is to invite chaos and anarchy in its
structure. You start putting up limits on your imagination, something which
cannot be bound down... You're just asking for trouble. See, in case anyone is
wondering why I got so hard on Burgundy's case once for not liking fics... He
already has the mentality. EVERYONE here does. We participate in discussion
forums. We toss out theories. If Steve had hypothetically postulated that
because of the Code of the Ninja Ranger, which included a passage in regard to
being "pure of body," perhaps Rita sending Ravenator after Tommy was meant to
cause him to lose the protection of his powers. With the junk he was tossing
back, it doesn't seem so unlikely. And, in saying that, or any theory? He's a
fanfic writer. He just wrote his own first conceptual useless story. Because
fanfiction is, in its own way, nothing but controlled thought experiments. It's
just the end and final result of theorizing and postulating. That's why I can't
understand why it tends to get such a bad reputation out there, all fan wank
aside. You know, Whitney... I sincerely hope that you DIDN'T destroy that fic,
because from the way it was going, it was shaping up to be one of your better
ones. Even if you can't share it with an audience, keeping it on your drive
isn't going to hurt anyone... Maybe someday this guy will come to his senses,
and realize that fanfiction can only help his own work in the long run, inspire
people to seek out his own novels and purchase them so as to get a feel for the
"real" version of this universe. Had he not done this to you, I know I would
have been among the first in line to pick some up. Remember when we all argued
essentially this very same thing to Saban? Well, not me personally, but the fan
community at large... That the existence of an organized fandom,
not-for-profit, can only expand their audience? Just because he writes short
stories of his own doesn't make this guy any less immune to that same logic,
all rigmarole he spews aside... And frankly, given the things you've done, and
the sort of person you are, I'm sorry, I still think this guy is a grade-a
primo piece of asshole, and I doubt he'll ever be capable of doing anything to
shake that. You are a good person, okay? You did NOTHING OF ANY SORT that was
wrong. Never think that you did.
Commander Crayfish
Oh, sure thing! Since I provided the links to access Earthsiege, which is quite
a good Billy piece, along with the rest of the Zeo team as well, I'll just skip
ahead to the rest of them, in the order I mentioned them in the initial post...
Steph: http://youthcenter.simplenet.com/Archives/Rap/index.html
Losing the Blues: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/4931/ltb1.html
Froog's stories and Eva's OEoG: http://members.xoom.com/froog/World
Matrix's PR Supreme:
http://youthcenter.simplenet.com/Archives/Matrix/index.html
Joe Rovang's multitude of fics:
http://www.mindspring.com/~ivoyles/rovang/fanfic.htm
Dagmar's stories: http://youthcenter.simplenet.com/Archives/Buse/index.html
Derik's tales: http://youthcenter.simplenet.com/Archives/Smith/index.html
Mandi's various series': http://weirdweb.simplenet.com/fanfic/index.html
And Ellen's Personality Conflicts (and more) stories:
http://youthcenter.simplenet.com/Archives/Brand/index.html
I hope you enjoy them! :-)
Daniel Sauve
alt.fan.power-rangers :
>the sort of person you are, I'm sorry, I still think this guy is a grade-a
>primo piece of asshole, and I doubt he'll ever be capable of doing anything to
>shake that. You are a good person, okay? You did NOTHING OF ANY SORT that was
>wrong. Never think that you did.
something with something they created, do you go with or against their wishes?
-d-d-d-d-d-
Morphin' Master. I remain:
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--------I am Sigfreud, the Living Sig, V. 74.64
People who love children read
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You don't hate children, do you?
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Commander Crayfish
>Okay, let me put it this way- if someone you respect asks you not to do
>something with something they created, do you go with or against their
>wishes?
But that is a wholly different matter entirely than writing fanfiction, which
is by definition something defined by a fandom which exists in the first place.
I have a hard time believing that some creator out there could be on such
amazing terms with each and every member of his fandom that he could have an
interpersonal relationship with them which would ALLOW that sort of thing as a
matter of mutual respect and admiration. Otherwise, he's some fascist from on
high dictating what can and can't be done with his work to the very people
which have given him a freakin' audience in the first place. To me, the epitome
of good fandom/creator relations come from Bob Forward and Larry DiTillo. They
WANTED to read fanfics, and were grateful to get input on the nature of their
universe from TF fanfic writers out there, but for legal reasons could not.
That sort of wink-nudge acceptance, to me, is the ultimate in treating the
people who give you a freakin' career to begin with some respect of their own.
Otherwise it's just one-way worship. And that strikes me as bordering on fandom
brainwashing.
And, to be perfectly honest, and to avoid this inevitable comparison... I do
think fanfic writers who say "you can never copy my work, even for your own
personal use, can never use my characters, no matter how often or how nicely
you ask" are also full of an equal amount of shit, and have just as little of
my respect. I think there has to be an equal amount of give and take, just as
there would be in any sort of friendship, lest you start building up cliques
and inner circles which might be detremental to a blossoming fandom.
But, you know, that's just silly old me.
jeysie
told us:
>Looking back on the authors and stories I've tallied, I know it
doesn't look
>like very much, but you need to keep in mind that I'm the guy
who is of the
>mind that there are only maybe fifteen good PR fanfic authors
out there, EVER.
>Twenty at maximum. Two of which are retired. And in case
there's anyone who I
>accidentally left off, please, don't take not being included
here as a slight,
>I didn't even remember Mandi until about two minutes before I
was all set to
>send off this post.
If I may, I would add my own personal recommendations of Mele's
Zeo Chronicles, Peregrine's series "The Sun Goes Down", and
Peregrine's story "Once a Ranger". I have found that both ladies
have solid characterization (my favorite part of a story) and
wonderful story-telling talents as well. (and they're both Billy
fans... no bias there, I swear! <G>)
Peace & Luv, Liz
"Are we having fun yet?"
Commander Crayfish
>Couldn't agree more. Even though I've never seen Voltron, it didn't matter --
>it's
>a riveting story that has almost everything. And I trashed my whole hardcopy
>once I
>found Rain's illustrated version to get a new printout -- online, too, to get
>the
>colors and pictures, and I pay for every single minute I'm online. It was
>more than
>worth it!
Rain is actually the guy who got me interested in Voltron in the first place,
truth be known... I'd never so much as seen an episode until after I finished
Earthsiege. Ironically, the first ep I managed to SEE on Cartoon Network was
the initial story arc... Which only made me raise more questions about what had
happened in the Earthsiege universe while we weren't looking which allowed the
Voltron universe to continue as we had initially seen. Why oh why won't he
write the sequel? New Mutants fanfics. Feh.
>And you can all join me in nagging her to continue writing the sequel to
>"Apologies", one of the best short pieces it's ever been my pleasure to read!
I'd have done it myself, but I just didn't feel right breathing down her neck
about continuing what is obviously such a personal project for her with all my
usual list of demands. But yes, Apologies is a wonderful story, and simply begs
to have a sequel or continuation of some sort.
>Chris, if you care to send me your snail mail addy, I'll photocopy my
>printout of
>the "Callahan's" crossover for you ... I swear, if I hadn't known Froog wrote
>it,
>I'd have believed Spider Robinson had tried his hand at doing a crossover to
>PR
>himself, it was that good!
Why, thank you ever so much, I really appreciate that kind offer! Let me just
clear some things with the old landlord, and we'll see what we can do, hmm? And
I'll work out a payment plan of some sort for you in exchange for your trouble.
;-)
>For all of you who suffered/sat through Advanced English classes, Matrix has
>also
>written an extremely funny series about the "BookRangers". It's posted at her
>site
>(sorry, no URL), and it pokes tongue-in-cheek fun at all those literary
>devices you
>love to see ... Alliteration, Deus Ex Machina, Anti-Hero ...
Literary Task Force Bookranger, I believe... Let me just dig out my URL for
Heather's main site aside from the PRSW Archive... Ah, here we go:
http://afreehome.com/ling
I still need to get around to reading Bookranger... Yes, yes, I know, shame on
me.
>It's long, it's excellent, and I'm privileged to be beta-reading it. You
>still
>here? Shoo! Go read, enjoy, and give feedback! *grin*
Hey, don't push me lady, I need to be in the right mood before I undertake
magnificent epics, 'kay? Otherwise I'm not receptive enough, and my input just
sucks. ;-)
And don't brag about getting to read Eva's stuff before the rest of us. It
isn't nice. ;-)
>And as a writer, a heartfelt THANK YOU, JOE for your Writer's Guide! What
>would we
>all do without you -- especially now that Amit has taken down the Online
>Archives?!?
I think the thing about the Writer's Guide which I enjoy the most is the
intense labor of love it has to be for him. I mean... I honestly can't think of
another fandom which has anything even close to this available for them as a
research tool. As Derik himself pointed out, no Star Trek fan in existence has
undertaken such a project, and their own Technical Guides are absolutely
NOTHING compared to the megalithic WGttPRU. The dedication Joe has to
maintaining it really is astounding. Of course, there's a part of me which
still misses the accessible simplicity of Rov's old "Did You Know?" trivia
guide, but I'll get over it eventually. ;-)
>Not to forget his hilarious Movie Parodies ... "Show them your thing, Tommy!"
>still
>cracks me up every time ...
Joe really missed his calling in not doing more parodies. You haven't the
foggiest how long I have been awaiting episodes six and seven of the Zordon of
Eltar Show. Probably about as long as I had been waiting for "A Heart of Gold"
up until about a month ago, come to think of it. Mind you, I'm not saying I
don't like his fics too, I just appreciate a guy who has two styles of writing
so wildly dissimilar from one another.
>Well, well, well ... *cracks whip* ... thanks for the plug, Chris ... now
>where am
>I going to put it, hmmmm? Seriously, though, I'm flattered to be included in
>this
>list. Couldn't find myself in better company ....
I think I found the sheer size and magnitude of "Casting Stones" a bit
daunting, which is why I put off on starting it until it had been completed...
And now, of course, I have absolutely no excuse left not to read it, do I? ;-)
But seriously, I thought "A Matter of Trust" and "In the Blink of an Eye" were
both quite wonderful pieces, which really broadened your range of the types of
stories you did. I look forward to seeing you try more in the vein of those.
Frankly, just to invoke an old challenge from here on the group years ago...
I'd kill to see you do a romance for Tanya and Adam in a similar theme to
"Moments in Time." From their first sight of each other in the middle of the
crisis in the Command Center to her and Shawn mutually breaking up to their
first date to... So on and so forth. I'd love to see her helping to train
Carlos in AaC "off-camera," while we weren't looking... Since, after all, Tanya
was a student of his as well, just like Carlos. They both know his particular
style. Or tending to Adam after he hobbled home from the conclusion to THAT
episode...
>And don't I wish his two "Untitled" stories would either be continued or
>expanded
>into full-blown fics!
I dunno, as much as I liked both of them, I think I can understand why he ended
them where he did. He painted a nice little picture, disconnected from most
everything else, and left it there for us to muse over. Another brush stroke
might spoil the thing. Would I LIKE to see him do more on each? Yes, but at the
same time... Is the nature of the tale he was trying to tell in each supportive
of a much longer fic? Mind you, I DO wish he had gone into greater detail on
"Angel of Mine," as that is one of the rare fanfics I've read in all my days
which made me cry.
>It WAS the very first songfic, but what's definitely worth a closer look is
>her
>PR/Stargate crossover -- and I could shoot myself for forgetting the title!
>Argh!
>Anyway, it's about a Lt. Jason Scott joining the Stargate SG 1 outfit ...
>quite
>long, quite excellent, and the sequel is already in the works. *grin*
"Special Case" and "Full Fathom Five." I actually haven't read either of them,
also. Of course, in this case I do have something of an excuse, I've seen so
little of Stargate SG-1, and it's been YEARS since I watched the movie that I
doubt I'd have the best handle on all the nuances she's trying to convey. I'm
not saying Mandi is the sort of writer who tends to bog the work down in
continuity... Hell no, she made Buffy accessible enough that I WANTED to seek
out the show after reading New Blood... Call it a personal call. I'm also quite
a great deal saddened by the fact that Mandi has seemingly quit the fandom
following the end of PRLG... I would have thought she, of all people, would
have gotten a kick out of the "demons from hell" theme in PRLR, perhaps even
tried to incorporate the idea of PR California having its own hellmouth into
the New Blood series... And "12 Months of Zingers" made me especially mournful.
Cripes, I wanted to read pretty much EVERY DAMN ONE of those stories,
especially Mandi's own take on Rov's long-ago discarded "Rangers in Black."
>Gladly. Any series that has Lord Zedd turned Human again, involved in a
>vicious
>swordfight with Ecliptor, and in the middle of it all those two start
>exchanging
>tips on "How to raise a Human Female Teenager" can't be anything but
>fantastic. PC
>has EVERYTHING -- humor, action, romance, heartbreak, alternate universes,
>magic,
>time paradoxes, Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, Masked Rider, Sailor Moon,
>Ghostbusters
>and Zordon on trial. Oh, and afp-r regulars, too. *wink*
See, Daggy, I was trying to be enigmatic in my description and preserve some of
the mystery and sense of awe and wonder that... Aw, screw it, she's right,
trying to keep it all under tight wraps for the uninitiated is silly, PC kicks
ass whether you have a vague idea what's going to happen anyway or not. ;-)
>Anyway, there's a lot of great material out there, both at the Big Sites and
>at
>lesser-known ones, like Matrix's and Froog's. You just have to start
>somewhere ...
This is actually reminding me of a poll I had wanted to compose a couple of
weeks ago, building off Derik's "Five Consummate PR Fanfics of All Time" post
from last year. I wanted to encourage a little more fic discussion around these
parts, given how seldom we really get any of any real depth... And beyond
simply what's your favorite, and such. I wanted to know what moments sent
chills up people's spines, what their favorite unexpected plot twist was, their
favorite team-up, and with what, favorite original supporting character, fave
orignal Ranger and powers, things of that nature. I probably should get around
to doing that...
KeyMatrix
> Literary Task Force Bookranger, I believe... Let me just dig
> out my URL for Heather's main
> site aside from the PRSW Archive... Ah, here we go:
> http://afreehome.com/ling
> I still need to get around to reading Bookranger... Yes, yes, I
> know, shame on me.
I click the link and discover, quite unexpectedly, that that site
is still there. Wow. It's been almost a year since I've even
looked at it. ;P
(Come to think of it, I recently rewrote and illustrated "The
Gateway in the Book. I should probably do an online version
posthaste. Man, printing that sucker was murder.)
-Matrix (keym...@excite.ca)
Tales of the Resistance First Wave Fanfiction:
Submit to ta...@theyarehere.cjb.net
PR Spoiler Warnings: http://prsw.cjb.net
Dagmar Buse
Couldn't agree more! Maybe Rachel can persuade him ... *hint, hint*
> >And you can all join me in nagging her to continue writing the sequel to
> >"Apologies", one of the best short pieces it's ever been my pleasure to read!
>
> I'd have done it myself, but I just didn't feel right breathing down her neck
> about continuing what is obviously such a personal project for her with all my
> usual list of demands. But yes, Apologies is a wonderful story, and simply begs
> to have a sequel or continuation of some sort.
She HAS started it, and the setup, from what I remember, is near-perfect, but I
WANT MORE! *grin* We could, however, ask her nicely ... like getting on our
collective knees and beg? And wail, and offer cookies that are SPOOON-proof? *grin*
> Why, thank you ever so much, I really appreciate that kind offer! Let me just
> clear some things with the old landlord, and we'll see what we can do, hmm? And
> I'll work out a payment plan of some sort for you in exchange for your trouble.
> ;-)
No prob. I wish I could just email it to you, but it's my habit to delete stories
once I've got my hard copy ... and that someone else who asked for a copy, email me
with your address; it's no prob to make two copies instead of one. As for payment,
a couple of bucks will probably cover things nicely. It wasn't that long, and the
most expensive part will be postage ...
> Literary Task Force Bookranger, I believe... Let me just dig out my URL for
> Heather's main site aside from the PRSW Archive... Ah, here we go:
> http://afreehome.com/ling
> I still need to get around to reading Bookranger... Yes, yes, I know, shame on
> me.
Try it, it's hilarious! As an English major, I got a REALLY major kick out of
reading it. Very innovative, and soooo true! *giggle*
> >It's long, it's excellent, and I'm privileged to be beta-reading it. You
> >still here? Shoo! Go read, enjoy, and give feedback! *grin*
>
> Hey, don't push me lady, I need to be in the right mood before I undertake
> magnificent epics, 'kay? Otherwise I'm not receptive enough, and my input just
> sucks. ;-)
> And don't brag about getting to read Eva's stuff before the rest of us. It
> isn't nice. ;-)
Well, get yourself in the mood pronto, then! That story's WAY too good to be unread
except by fans who hear of it through word-of-mouth.
And I can brag if I want to! Sitting here in Germany, cut off by a year at least
from all current PR, it's the only thing that keeps me afloat .. and whoever gave
you the impression I'm nice? *evil grin*
<snip lavish praise of Joe's Writer's Guide and his various fics>
> >Well, well, well ... *cracks whip* ... thanks for the plug, Chris ... now
> >where am
> >I going to put it, hmmmm? Seriously, though, I'm flattered to be included in
> >this
> >list. Couldn't find myself in better company ....
>
> I think I found the sheer size and magnitude of "Casting Stones" a bit
> daunting,
*incredulous, phony innocent look* What, you think 185 pages is too long?
> which is why I put off on starting it until it had been completed...
> And now, of course, I have absolutely no excuse left not to read it, do I? ;-)
Nope. :-)
> But seriously, I thought "A Matter of Trust" and "In the Blink of an Eye" were
> both quite wonderful pieces, which really broadened your range of the types of
> stories you did. I look forward to seeing you try more in the vein of those.
*blush* Thank you. I've been trying to come up with non-romance storylines, but my
Muse is not very cooperative, I'm afraid ... (and yes, that beast is real! Too much
so sometimes ...)
> Frankly, just to invoke an old challenge from here on the group years ago...
> I'd kill to see you do a romance for Tanya and Adam in a similar theme to
> "Moments in Time." From their first sight of each other in the middle of the
> crisis in the Command Center to her and Shawn mutually breaking up to their
> first date to... So on and so forth.
AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!! No more ideas ... please ... I'm snowed under as it
is .... *whimpers pathetically* .. but I'll keep it in mind ... sigh ...
> <<Derik's "Untitled" stories>>
> I dunno, as much as I liked both of them, I think I can understand why he ended
> them where he did. He painted a nice little picture, disconnected from most
> everything else, and left it there for us to muse over.
Oh, I never meant to imply that they're not perfect the way they are. It's just, as
with most excellent stories (eg, Earthsiege, Apologies, Bookrangers), I want MORE!
I'm enjoying my stay in that particular universe so much, I'm absolutely loathe to
leave there, and would kill to get back ... and you've got to admit, they DO leave
a perfect setup to tell more ... to expand on your metaphor, it's like being shown
the first page of a photo album, and then it's taken away and put on a shelf where
I can't reach ... *pout*
> Mind you, I DO wish he had gone into greater detail on
> "Angel of Mine," as that is one of the rare fanfics I've read in all my days
> which made me cry.
I didn't go quite that far, but yes, it WAS powerful ... not to mention GOOD ..
> "Special Case" and "Full Fathom Five."
Thank you. *grin*
> I actually haven't read either of them,
> also. Of course, in this case I do have something of an excuse, I've seen so
> little of Stargate SG-1, and it's been YEARS since I watched the movie that I
> doubt I'd have the best handle on all the nuances she's trying to convey.
I've actually started watching the reruns, just to understand the stories better
...
> PC
> >has EVERYTHING
>
> See, Daggy, I was trying to be enigmatic in my description and preserve some of
> the mystery and sense of awe and wonder that...
Hey, I didn't give details! And I left out at least half of what's so fantastic ...
> Aw, screw it, she's right,
> trying to keep it all under tight wraps for the uninitiated is silly, PC kicks
> ass whether you have a vague idea what's going to happen anyway or not. ;-)
See? I told you ... (and yes, I've been dying to say that to you for quite a while!
*grin*)
> >Anyway, there's a lot of great material out there, both at the Big Sites and
> >at
> >lesser-known ones, like Matrix's and Froog's. You just have to start
> >somewhere ...
>
> This is actually reminding me of a poll I had wanted to compose a couple of
> weeks ago, building off Derik's "Five Consummate PR Fanfics of All Time" post
> from last year. I wanted to encourage a little more fic discussion around these
> parts, given how seldom we really get any of any real depth...
Yes, please!
> And beyond
> simply what's your favorite, and such. I wanted to know what moments sent
> chills up people's spines, what their favorite unexpected plot twist was, their
> favorite team-up, and with what, favorite original supporting character, fave
> orignal Ranger and powers, things of that nature. I probably should get around
> to doing that...
On Cynthia's PR message board, the questions of "what do/don't you like in a fic
got quite lively answers -- starting with simply good writing skills (spelling,
grammar and such) to specifics such as armor versus spandex, the ever-popular
favorite romance (and that's going way beyond the old Tommy/Kim/Kat controversy),
non-canon characters in general, and so on. The question is, however, who here
would be interested in discussing this? I'm assuming that those of us who write
themselves (Aaron, Lucas, Daniel, Eva, Froog and everybody else I'm forgetting)
would be, but there are those poor souls out there who can't be bothered with
fanfics at all ...
Dagmar
SuloFamily
"Dagmar Buse" <rdg...@cityweb.de> wrote in message
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> > Rain Fletcher's "Earthsiege" is essentially a prerequisite if you plan
to start
> > reading the classics of PR fanfiction.
>
> > Stephanie Moffett has done a number of solid fanfics in a variety of
different
> > subjects... Her Highlander and X-Files crossovers are both wonderful,
and I
> > highly recommend them. Not to mention the "Clone War" series, which
ended up
> > taking the end to the Judd Lynn classic "Blue Ranger Gone Bad" in an
entirely
> > new direction.
> Steph now posts as "Rap".
Really? Thanks for the tip. I'll keep an eye out for her stories under
this name then.
> > Froog has done a number of wonderful short stories focusing on a variety
of
> > characters, including one about how and why Billy changed so much over
the
> > years involving a similar character to his initial persona that you
might not
> > expect.
I've read a few of her stories. One was really funny :).
>
> >
> For all of you who suffered/sat through Advanced English classes, Matrix
has also
> written an extremely funny series about the "BookRangers". It's posted at
her site
> (sorry, no URL), and it pokes tongue-in-cheek fun at all those literary
devices you
> love to see ... Alliteration, Deus Ex Machina, Anti-Hero ...
Oooh, I forgot about those :)
>
> > If you enjoy cross-generational stories with a personal twist, you'll
probably
> > enjoy Eva Beckwith's enigmatic, non-linear "Connections" series. She's
done a
> > heck of a job placing links where you might not have expected to find
them, and
> > feeding into our desire to learn more about the nature of this
particular
> > universe. There's also her PRZ epic "One Entity of Good," available
exclusively
> > as Froog's World of Fanfic. If you like Billy and Jason, you'll enjoy
this.
>
> It's long, it's excellent, and I'm privileged to be beta-reading it. You
still
> here? Shoo! Go read, enjoy, and give feedback! *grin*
What does beta-reading mean? And I've also been enjoying this excellent
series :)
>
> > As Meridian-Omega said, you just can't go wrong with Joe Rovang, patron
saint
> > of Power Rangers fanfiction throughout the known universe.
>
Definitely a great author, and maintains an excellent (and much needed)
website.
> > Dagmar has done quite a number of stories herself, alternating between
the
> > standard PG/PG-13 fare you tend to find in PR circles and some more...
Adult
> > pieces. Given that I find there to be a dearth of good PR erotica out
there, I
> > welcome anyone who can do it well, but her tamer fics are also quite
good. And
> > yes, Daggy, I promise I will get around to reading Casting Stones very
shortly.
> > So stop hitting me! It HURTS! ;-)
I don't think I've read her fics yet.
>
> > Derik Smith has done several nice character pieces, among them the
tender
> > "Goodbye, Old Friend" and "Angel of Mine," each of which focus on a
couple of
> > characters and relationships involving them which tend to be glossed
over in PR
> > fanfiction. There's also both of his quiet, character-driven "Untitled"
> > stories, each worth a looksie.
Yep, those were good.
> > Mandi Ohlin has done several wonderful pieces stretched out across
multiple
> > incarnations, including the very first songfic ever done in PR fandom
that I
> > know of, "Don't Speak."
And her fics are also very good.
> > And lastly, there's the pinnacle which all wannabe PR epics and grand
sagas
> > aspire to, and ultimately fall short of, Ellen Brand's Personality
Conflicts
> > series. Just trust me on this one.
> > Gladly. Any series that has Lord Zedd turned Human again, involved in a
vicious
> swordfight with Ecliptor, and in the middle of it all those two start
exchanging
> tips on "How to raise a Human Female Teenager" can't be anything but
fantastic. PC
> has EVERYTHING -- humor, action, romance, heartbreak, alternate universes,
magic,
> time paradoxes, Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, Masked Rider, Sailor Moon,
Ghostbusters
> and Zordon on trial. Oh, and afp-r regulars, too. *wink*
I'll third that one. Ellen Brand is definitely on the top of my fanfic
writer list.
>
>
> To add to Chris' list, other good writers to look out for (and I know I'm
leaving
> out a lot; obviously, I can only judge those I've read myself) are Cynthia
Harrell
> for almost everything, Jeremy Ray Logsdon, Peregrine for a fantastic Quest
> story/series dealing with the Ninjetti Powers, Cheryl Roberts for
Tommy/Kim stories
> (both adult and PG), Hellfire for Evil Rangers, Diane Douglas, Naomi
Tilley if you
> like Jason tortured, killed, raped, maimed ... (yes, she likes the
character!) ...
> all of these authors have the advantage of writing good, grammatical
English, too.
> (I used to teach English; that's important to me. So sue me!)
I've read most of these authors...again a great way to pass the time :)
>
> Anyway, there's a lot of great material out there, both at the Big Sites
and at
> lesser-known ones, like Matrix's and Froog's. You just have to start
somewhere ...
>
> Dagmar
>
That's my problem, there are sooo many fics out there on so many sites,
I'll never get around to reading them as I had originally planned 4 years
ago when I had started reading fics :)
My current method of dealing with fan-fics is to choose authors at
random and then keep my own record of which one's I like and which ones I
don't as well as which stories I've read and which one's I haven't read yet.
This way I'll know what stories to read or reread. But that is all based on
my own personal preferences. Oh, but I must add Julia H. to the above list.
Her Shadowing Forth series is excellent. Aside from those mentioned
elsewhere in this thread, other authors on my very good to excellent list
(way far from complete) include Aowyn, Melanie Bisson, Cricker, Rachel D.
Dawson, Emerald J., Jessica Hardy, Krazie Kat, Luellon, Aurora Moore,
Melissa Morris, Christina Ortega, Ranko, Lisa Rayven, April Richards,
Spartacus, Starhawk, and Winterflame.
Eileen (alt. Confused)
Dagmar Buse
> to start
> > > reading the classics of PR fanfiction.
> Read it, loved it :)
Who doesn't? *grin*
> Read the whole "Clone War" series. Excellent.
>
> > Steph now posts as "Rap".
> Really? Thanks for the tip. I'll keep an eye out for her stories under
> this name then.
Really. It's because of professional reasons she's now using a pseudonym to post
her fanfics. Watch out -- if it ever gets to be posted -- for her amazing Star
Trek DS9/PR crossover; I've seen a little of it, and while I generally shy away
from crossovers, THAT one's excellent ..
> > > Froog has done a number of wonderful short stories
>
> I've read a few of her stories. One was really funny :).
Her more serious pieces are awesome as well ...
> > love to see ... Alliteration, Deus Ex Machina, Anti-Hero ...
> Oooh, I forgot about those :)
Shame on you! *grin* Much too original and funny to be forgettable!
> What does beta-reading mean? And I've also been enjoying this excellent
> series :)
Huzzah! :-) Beta-reading means ... an author sends his/her stories to someone
else, someone they trust, to look over for mistakes in spelling, grammar (no
computer program is perfect, after all), punctuation and continuity. Also, often
as a writer you're too close to your own work, and a beta-reader will find and
point out inconsistencies, places where you've been repetitive, or write out of
character, for example. Using hard copy and a red pencil helps, too, if you
don't want to let others have a look at the unfinished product, but in general
it's a good idea to share before posting
> <Rovang>
> Definitely a great author, and maintains an excellent (and much needed)
> website.
Oh yeah ...
> And
> > > yes, Daggy, I promise I will get around to reading Casting Stones very
> shortly.
> > > So stop hitting me! It HURTS! ;-)
> I don't think I've read her fics yet.
*serious pout* I'm crushed, hurt, miffed, insulted, mortally offended ... damn,
I lost my dictionary! *grin* If I may plug my own work a bit, you'd better like
Jason, and a good romance, or you'll hate it ... and btw, I post under my own
name at Froog's, and the three big sites. *hint, hint*
> Derik Smith has done several nice character pieces, among them the
> tender
> > > "Goodbye, Old Friend" and "Angel of Mine," each of which focus on a
> couple of
> > > characters and relationships involving them which tend to be glossed
> over in PR
> > > fanfiction. There's also both of his quiet, character-driven "Untitled"
> > > stories, each worth a looksie.
> Yep, those were good.
Better than that, actually ... if you want to see Rocky slimed by a frog, go to
"Untitled II" ...
> > > Mandi Ohlin has done several wonderful pieces stretched out across
> multiple
> > > incarnations, including the very first songfic ever done in PR fandom
> that I
> > > know of, "Don't Speak."
> And her fics are also very good.
Oh, no argument. The "Mary Sue Litmus Test" can also be found at her site -- a
nice little bit to help you determine if your much-beloved original character
(How did you put it so eloquently, Chris? "The Neon Aqua Ranger with his/her
Super Musk Ox Zord" *grin*) is a Mary Sue, or a Marty Stu if he happens to be
male. :-)
> PC
> > has EVERYTHING -- humor, action, romance, heartbreak, alternate universes,
> magic,
> > time paradoxes, Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, Masked Rider, Sailor Moon,
> Ghostbusters
> > and Zordon on trial. Oh, and afp-r regulars, too. *wink*
> I'll third that one. Ellen Brand is definitely on the top of my fanfic
> writer list.
To put the final humiliating touches to us lesser-gifted mortals, Ellen also
writes plain good English .. and is a damn fine writer in Ghostbusters
fanfiction and in original writing. Oh, for a good laugh try her PR/Mighty Ducks
(the cartoon ones) crossover ... or try to imagine Carlos and TJ as Sailor
senshi ...
> I've read most of these authors...again a great way to pass the time :)
None better, IMO ... and in fanfics, you get plotholes filled, characters
developed, relationships realigned ... name the subject, it's probable someone
has written a story about it and it's posted somewhere ...
> That's my problem, there are sooo many fics out there on so many sites,
> I'll never get around to reading them as I had originally planned 4 years
> ago when I had started reading fics :)
One regular at Cynthia's Message Board was VERY methodical about it -- over
summer break last year, she went to the author's list, started at A (I THINK it
was Akiko) and worked her way through EVERY fic posted there until she reached Z
(Susan Zell). Now THAT's dedication!
And an awful lot of free time, too! *grin*
> My current method of dealing with fan-fics is to choose authors at
> random and then keep my own record of which one's I like and which ones I
> don't as well as which stories I've read and which one's I haven't read yet.
> This way I'll know what stories to read or reread. But that is all based on
> my own personal preferences.
For rereads, I'm keeping hard copies -- my bad eyes don't allow me too much time
at a computer screen. :-( But, I guess that's basically what everybody does ...
> Oh, but I must add Julia H. to the above list.
> Her Shadowing Forth series is excellent.
Oh yeah .. I just wish she'd get on with it ...
> Aside from those mentioned
> elsewhere in this thread, other authors on my very good to excellent list
> (way far from complete) include Aowyn, Melanie Bisson, Cricker, Rachel D.
> Dawson, Emerald J., Jessica Hardy, Krazie Kat, Luellon, Aurora Moore,
> Melissa Morris, Christina Ortega, Ranko, Lisa Rayven, April Richards,
> Spartacus, Starhawk, and Winterflame.
Add SilvorMoon, Mele, Peregrine, Jennifer Hart ... and don't forget the guys:
Lucas Harrell, Kristling and Daniel ... Bryan Rowe. Loads of others, too ..
Dagmar
eva_...@my-deja.com
First - big, big thank you to Chris and Dagmar and Eileen for the nice
things they said about my own work. You're the best, people.
Huge, huge thank you to Froog for taking a chance with me and saying,
"sure, I'll post your saga" when she hadn't even seen a word of it.
There is some really remarkably good writing out there in fanfic land,
and this thread has already led me to discover some excellent authors
that I hadn't previously read, but I want to plug yet one more story
that, as far as I know, isn't posted anywhere, but I would personally
list it up there near the top of the rest of the "classics".
It is Bruce Venne's "Vedi, Veni, Verti".
An incredible piece of work, intelligent, well-written, complex and
psychologically multi-layered. I would even classify it is a
"morphinominal" epic, especially for readers who enjoy the more
mythological aspects of the first couple of seasons of PR. On the darker
side, but it is dealing with the essence of evil.
Bruce -- if you're out there reading this, all I can say is POST IT so
that others can enjoy it.
Eva
SuloFamily
<eva_...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8hjb6d$95h$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
request for it's reposting :)
Hey, I also remember enjoying Stephanie and Rachel Herndon's fics
(especially the lost files...very funny)
Eileen (alt. Confused)
SuloFamily
What was the first power ranger fan-fiction you ever read? Mine was Melissa
Morris' "Spellbound" series.
Eileen (alt. Confused)
Sara Craycraft
> > Ok, I've got a poll question.
> >
> > What was the first power ranger fan-fiction you ever read? Mine was
Melissa
> > Morris' "Spellbound" series
heh. I might get hurt for this one, cuz I'm not completely sure these are
counted as "fanfic" or "anti-PR". =) Anyhoo, the first PR "fanfic" I read
was the Mighty Weenie Pathetic Rangers by the Artist Bros. They were highly
amusing. They're actually still up (I hadn't read them in about 4 years)
although I did have to dig for them a bit. =)
Sara
Dagmar Buse
> Ok, I've got a poll question.
>
> What was the first power ranger fan-fiction you ever read? Mine was Melissa
> Morris' "Spellbound" series.
>
> Eileen (alt. Confused)
I browsed some at Amit's now defunct site, but wasn't overly impressed with
anything, so titles have slipped my mind. Then, however (about two weeks after I
got Internet access) I happened onto the Fanfic Shoppe and Earthsiege and Cheryl
Roberts' "'Til Death", which was the Featured Fic at the time.
What can I say, those two DID stick in my mind, BIG time! Start with the best
and go from there ... I wrote a fanmail message to Cheryl, one thing led to
another, and 18 months ago I posted my own first story. Now, I've written around
half a million words of PR fics ... er ... blame Cheryl! *grin*
Dagmar
Commander Crayfish
>What does beta-reading mean? And I've also been enjoying this excellent
>series :)
Beta-reading means that you're "beta-testing" the fic before it's actually sent
out to a wider audience. You look for plot holes and inconsistencies, spelling
problems that a spell and/or grammar check might not catch, making sure it fits
into a greater universe if we're talking about part of a series... Basically a
beta-reader is the person between the original writer and the web sites the
stories get posted to. Sort of like an editor.
>That's my problem, there are sooo many fics out there on so many sites,
>I'll never get around to reading them as I had originally planned 4 years
>ago when I had started reading fics :)
I think that the potential for reading EVERY SINGLE FANFIC out there in any
genre tends to be pretty low, especially the longer in a fandom you remain, and
the longer it endures... Somehow I doubt a single human being could fit in all
the Star Trek fanfiction written about any single incarnation of the show in
their nature lifetime. Let alone all of them combined. You might have been able
to do it for PR four years ago, but by the time you completed it there'd have
been tons and tons more you'd need to go through as well.
I do basically what you suggest, Eileen. I sort through the new releases to
Cynthia's every week and pick out stories that interest me based on the
summaries. If the acknowledgments and first few pages of story can't hook me,
I've gone on to the next. I keep notes of which authors I almost always enjoy
and those who's work I find hit-and-miss for future reference in my head. I
also try and limit the types of stories I read to, you know, actual PR fanfics.
I don't do muses (which I think was cute for about the first two stories, and I
now find beyond tiresome and obnoxious; it's like a sick little Pokemon cult),
I don't do parodies aside from those by Monty or authors I already respect, and
I try and avoid "drooling fanboy/fangirl" stories which have absolutely no
point to them whatsoever. I do not suffer inane fanfics very well. Basically, I
treat fanfics as no different than I do any other form of writing. The same
qualities I ask for out of a good novel or an enjoyable anthology I ask from a
decent piece of fanfiction. Using that criteria... I don't think there are
nearly ENOUGH fanfics out there.
Commander Crayfish
>Ok, I've got a poll question.
>
>What was the first power ranger fan-fiction you ever read? Mine was Melissa
>Morris' "Spellbound" series.
It is both sad and pathetic that I can still remember this after so long... It
was "Missing" by Steph Moffett, followed immediately thereafter by
"Disappearing Act," and finished off with Kittie's MMPR/Seinfeld crossover.
(Kramer: "ANGEL GROVE! CALIFORNIA!")
This date was also notable for being my first online, and also the same day
that I discovered this very newsgroup right here. I was a busy little son of a
b. I don't know why I ended up reading crossovers before I started anything
else, those just sounded the most interesting to me... Recall that this was an
era before we had summaries at the Fanfic Shoppe, so all I had to go on for
ANYTHING by ANYONE were the titles.
Froog T. SqueezyCheese
>"SuloFamily" alexs...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>Ok, I've got a poll question.
>>
>>What was the first power ranger fan-fiction you ever read? Mine was
Melissa
>>Morris' "Spellbound" series.
>
>It is both sad and pathetic that I can still remember this after so long...
It
>was "Missing" by Steph Moffett, followed immediately thereafter by
>"Disappearing Act," and finished off with Kittie's MMPR/Seinfeld crossover.
>(Kramer: "ANGEL GROVE! CALIFORNIA!")
>
>This date was also notable for being my first online, and also the same day
>that I discovered this very newsgroup right here. I was a busy little son
of a
>b. I don't know why I ended up reading crossovers before I started anything
>else, those just sounded the most interesting to me... Recall that this was
an
>era before we had summaries at the Fanfic Shoppe, so all I had to go on for
>ANYTHING by ANYONE were the titles.
The first two fics I ever read weren't online. Well, they were originally,
but when I read them, they were printouts SPOOON!! had made and left lying
around. First was "X-Rangers" by Dairenn Lombard, which I have to admit
isn't one of my favourites. The next one was "Treasure Hunt" by Carla
Benton, which is one of my favourites, but which isn't online any more.
Sigh. And I don't think it's sad that I still remember. If you want sad,
you should look at my database of Power Rangers fanfiction, which has over
3600 fics so far.
SuloFamily
"Sara Craycraft" <acego...@home.com> wrote in message
news:u8f%4.7819$gr4.3...@news1.rdc1.il.home.com...
>
> > > Ok, I've got a poll question.
> > >
> > > What was the first power ranger fan-fiction you ever read? Mine was
> Melissa
>
> heh. I might get hurt for this one, cuz I'm not completely sure these are
> counted as "fanfic" or "anti-PR". =) Anyhoo, the first PR "fanfic" I
read
> was the Mighty Weenie Pathetic Rangers by the Artist Bros. They were
highly
> amusing. They're actually still up (I hadn't read them in about 4 years)
> although I did have to dig for them a bit. =)
>
> Sara
Lol...I remember those :)
Eileen (alt. Confused)
Dagmar Buse
> Mighty Weenie Pathetic Rangers by the Artist Bros. They were
> highly
> > amusing. They're actually still up (I hadn't read them in about 4 years)
> > although I did have to dig for them a bit. =)
> >
> > Sara
>
> Lol...I remember those :)
>
> Eileen (alt. Confused)
And where, please, can they be found? Just for those of us who haven't been on
the net that long? *gives hopeful puppy-dog look*
Dagmar
jeysie
us:
>And where, please, can they be found? Just for those of us who
haven't been on
>the net that long? *gives hopeful puppy-dog look*
>
>Dagmar
You can find them at:
http://www.artist-bros.org/tv-series/mwpr/episodes/mwpr1-(xx).txt
Where (xx) is a number from 01 to 30. You have to do it that
way, since they only offer access up to episode 11 from the MWPR
index, and they haven't updated in a long time. (I've been
checking!) By the same token, 30 episodes is all they seem to
have up. Blast it... (unless someone's had better luck rooting
around than I have!)
Peace & Luv, Liz
"Are we having fun yet?"
Bruce Venne
F
> >>
> >>What was the first power ranger fan-fiction you ever read?
"Spectra Ranger" by Frank Barr and it is still one of my favourite. A couple of
my other favourite are "Out of Time" by Mara MacLeod", "Treasure Hunt" by Carla
Benton and "Fall of the Mighty" by Rachel Herndon.
Bruce