Your introduction to Pern
JeReMy
Dragonsdawn because it looked like it was the first one chronologically. I
was a little confused when it jumped to Moreta. I had to look twice to
make sure the two books were from the same series. Now, I've read all but
MHoP, RoP, and Chronicles but I think I was a lot clearer on some things
because I'd already read the explainations.
What I was wondering was what order you read the series in. Here's mine:
Dragonsdawn
Moreta
Nerilka
AtWoP
D1,D2,D3
H1,H3,H2
DoP
Thanks,
- Jeremy
Frank Wood
Dragonsdawn
The Chronicles of Pern (First Fall)
Red Star Rising (Dragonseye)
Moreta
Nerilka's Story
Masterharper of Pern
Dragonflight
Dragonquest
Dragonsong
Dragonsinger
Dragondrums
The White Dragon
Renegades of Pern
All the Weyrs of Pern
The Dolphins of Pern
There's quite a lot of overlaps. Moreta and Nerilka are much the same tale,
but from different points of view. Dragonsong and Dragonsinger overlap
Dragonquest: Masterharper overlaps Dragonflight, and The Dolphins overlaps
ATWOP.
--
Frank Wood
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Neva
story is about the survey team, though the rest comes afterwards.
Lady Phoenix
Moreta
The Harper Hall book (can't remember title, features Menolly)
Nerilka's story
Dragon's Dawn
The Girl Who Heard Dragons
MasterHarper of Pern
I'm sure I'm missing something. At least, I feel like I am!
JeReMy wrote:
> I don't know about you but the first book of the series that I read was
> Dragonsdawn because it looked like it was the first one chronologically. I
> was a little confused when it jumped to Moreta. I had to look twice to
> make sure the two books were from the same series. Now, I've read all but
> MHoP, RoP, and Chronicles but I think I was a lot clearer on some things
> because I'd already read the explainations.
>
> What I was wondering was what order you read the series in. Here's mine:
> Dragonsdawn
> Moreta
> Nerilka
> AtWoP
> D1,D2,D3
> H1,H3,H2
> DoP
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Jeremy
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J. R. J.
>I don't know about you but the first book of the series that I read was
>Dragonsdawn because it looked like it was the first one chronologically. I
>was a little confused when it jumped to Moreta. I had to look twice to
>make sure the two books were from the same series. Now, I've read all but
>MHoP, RoP, and Chronicles but I think I was a lot clearer on some things
>because I'd already read the explainations.
>
>What I was wondering was what order you read the series in. Here's mine:
>Dragonsdawn
>Moreta
>Nerilka
>AtWoP
>D1,D2,D3
>H1,H3,H2
>DoP
>
>Thanks,
>
>- Jeremy
I've read the series three times now and I've read it in a different order
each time. The first time, the order went this way:
Dragonsong
Dragonsinger
Dragondrums
Dragonflight
Dragonquest
The White Dragon
Nerilka's Story (because Moreta wasn't in at the library)
Moreta
and the rest in order of publication because they came out later.
The second time, I read them in Pernese chronological order. The last
time, I read them in complete order of publication. Of course, I haven't read
all of the books three times because some weren't out yet, etc.
Jennifer- soon to re-read the Talent series
Cyd
discount bookstore and saw Dragonsdawn. So I read it. And from there we go:
Dragonsdawn
Dragonflight
Dragonquest
The White Dragon
Moreta
Nerilka
The Harper Hall Trilogy
Renegades
All the Weyrs
The Girl who heard Dragons
Dolphins
First Fall
Get Off the Unicorn (intro to K'van, I believe)
Masterharper
God I'd love to hear more about Sean and Sorka...
Cyd
Kasatka
said there were dolphins! I had to!)
From there, I read:
Moreta
Renegades
D1, D2, D3
H1, H2, H3
Nerilka
AtWoP
Dolphins of Pern
Chronicles
Dragonseye
Masterharper
(I sort of read them as I found them, I guess. <g>)
Kasatka
Mariah Walker
> I've read the series three times now and I've read it in a different
order
>each time. The first time, the order went this way:...<snip>
> The second time, I read them in Pernese chronological order. The last
>time, I read them in complete order of publication.
So, my question to you is, which order do you think is best, or most
enjoyable? :)
I have read them twice, both times in publication order. But now I am
thinking of reading them again in Pern chronological order. Wondering if you
had a preference?
Mariah
I'm spamblocking...e-mail address is:
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Sariel
>So, my question to you is, which order do you think is best, or most
>enjoyable? :)
>I have read them twice, both times in publication order. But now I am
>thinking of reading them again in Pern chronological order. Wondering if
you
>had a preference?
I think it's important for people to read them in copyright order the first
time through the series--the order you first read them in can really shape
your view of Pern. But after that, read them any way you like!
_____________________________________
Sariel
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J. Gerritsen
am (after almost 5 years of lurking :-)
I would definitely read the Pern books in rough order of publication. When I
was reading D1, D2, D3 one of the most appealing things about the series was
how this technologically-challenged culture unearthed its scientific legacy,
just in time to combat Thread. If I had read _Dragonsdawn_ first (and maybe,
to a lesser extent, _Moreta_ and _Nerilka_) this aspect would have been lost
(or at least, not have had such a profound effect). Either the three Harper
books or D1-D3 first, then read the rest at will tends to be my advice. And
though this may be a controversial reason, I also think the first three Harper
and Dragonrider books are the best written, and for newcomers to Pern I would
like to see them hooked before introducing the later ones.
Jen
Cathy Fahey
I started reading the Pern books back in 7th Grade (I'm a junior in
college now) when my Girl Scout leader decided that I needed something new
to read. She gave me _Dragonsdawn_, and from there I read the Harper Hall
Trilogy and the rest of the books (I don't remember the order in which I
first read them now).
Now, about every year or so, I dig the books out again and reread
them. I just finished my latest chronological reading over spring break.
I love reading the books, I even lugged my collection up to college with
me so that I wouldn't be without them. They are a wonderful break from
academic reading. Whenever I'm stressed out with deciphering class
readings andn photocopied articles, I can pick up a book and, after a
chapter, regain my love of reading.
I just recently discovered this newsgroup, and being a longtime fan, I
think this is a wonderful place.
Cathy :)
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I don't know where I'm going
but I'm on my way.
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Cathy Fahey
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E.Preston III & Shelly K. Walker
with The Dragonriders of Pern trilogy. Yes, it was where I started, but
more importantly, I think Dragonsdawn could be boring to someone who
doesn't know Pern. If I'm speaking to a younger person, (12ish?) I'll
frequently encourage the Harper Hall Trilogy first. Just for info, I'm
33.
Shelly
--
For every action, there is an equal and
opposite critizim. Conversely, no one
is listening until you make a mistake.
Mariah Walker
>I agree with some other readers here, I recommend starting the series
>with The Dragonriders of Pern trilogy. Yes, it was where I started, but
>more importantly, I think Dragonsdawn could be boring to someone who
>doesn't know Pern.
That's a very good point. I think I'd recommend the same thing too, for a
first-time Pern reader.
I'm wondering, however, what those who have *already* read the series and
are familiar with Pern, prefer. It definitely makes a difference, first time
reader or not.
> If I'm speaking to a younger person, (12ish?) I'll
>frequently encourage the Harper Hall Trilogy first.
I couldn't help but feel, as much as I loved the HH group, that I much more
enjoyed reading about the dragonriders as central characters. I can never
seem to get enough of reading about them and their dragons, Impressions,
Hatchings, etc. I found myself wistfully wishing they'd focus more on the
Dragonriders in HH books and others (although I appreciate one must
diversify sometimes too!). It's like I don't get my "fix" or something. So I
would definitely say that the Dragon trilogy would be *my* first
recommendation. Once you get to know the characters and want to learn more
about Pern, the HH trilogy is a welcome read!
I loved Dolphins etc. but always felt I wanted to read more about the
dragons and their riders...can't get enough! Does anyone else feel this way?
Lorraine Weaver
> I loved Dolphins etc. but always felt I wanted to read more about the
> dragons and their riders...can't get enough! Does anyone else feel this way?
>
> Mariah
>
I agree - although I love Anne McCaffrey's books (have read all of them as soon
as I can find them) - my favorite has to be the Dragonrider trilogy. Those were
the books I read first, then the Harper trilogy. And I've re-read the
Dragonrider trilogy more than the others.
Lorraine
Starfall18
>33.
well that all depends on the younger person...some 12 year olds could start
with the Dragonrider's trilogy...I'm 15 now, and I think I started the series
last summer sometime, after I read the Freedom's Landing stuff, I wanted to
read more of her stuff, so I read MoP. Now, that was the most confusing book I
had ever read. But since it was a series book, I figured I'd read more. And
then I think I read....Nerilka's story, annd DoP. And I was still majorly
confused! It wasn't until I read the Dragonriders trilogy and HH trilogy that I
finally understood what they were talking about! So I went back and read
everything else.
I guess that's my story:)
But I agree to start with the Dragonrider's trilogy, bbecause it explains a
lot.
Emily:)
DJV1125
Dragon. I also read the Survey report right after Renegades, then follow it up
with DragonsDawn, to simulate the people listening to AIVAS' report. Then i
proceed into All the Weyrs of Pern.
Thus, my preferred and recommended order of reading and referring others to
the series is:
DragonFlight
DragonQuest
DragonSong
DragonSinger
Dragon Drums
The White Dragon
Renegades of Pern
the Survey report (from Chronicles)
DragonsDawn
Chronicles of Pern/First Fall (all except the Survey report)
All the Weyrs of Pern
Dolphins of Pern
I have debated whether or not to start off with the Masterharper novel, and am
unsure if Robinton's history really makes that much difference to me. I find
nothing of relevence in it toward the rest of the series except the background
of Fax and Ruatha.
I cannot stand the 'middle books' as I call the non-ninth Pass books (Moreta,
Nerilka's Song and DragonsEye) and have discarded each one immediately after I
read them. I do not believe them worth keeping, at least for me.
adding my 2 cents worth,
Dan Vallowe
J. R. J.
>So, my question to you is, which order do you think is best, or most
>enjoyable? :)
>I have read them twice, both times in publication order. But now I am
>thinking of reading them again in Pern chronological order. Wondering if you
>had a preference?
>
>Mariah
>
No, I don't really have a preferrence because all three times I read them,
it gave me a new perspective. But I prefer to tell my friends and family to
read them in publication order because I think that way offers the most
surprises- this is advice to first-time readers. I go along with you in your
discision to read them in Pern chronological order- it shows the evolution of
the Pernese society better.
Jennifer
E.Preston III & Shelly K. Walker
> I cannot stand the 'middle books' as I call the non-ninth Pass books (Moreta,
> Nerilka's Song and DragonsEye) and have discarded each one immediately after I
> read them. I do not believe them worth keeping, at least for me.
>
> adding my 2 cents worth,
> Dan Vallowe
I'm sorry you did not enjoy the "Plague Pass" books. Moreta and Nerilka
are two of my most favorite characters. Granted, Pern life without F'lar
and Lessa is had to get used to, but really enjoyed the storyline, and
all the tragedy.
Now, Dragonseye, though I read and own it, I'm not in love with the
time, or people. I'd have to have another story to make it comfy.
Mariah Walker
>I cannot stand the 'middle books' as I call the non-ninth Pass books
(Moreta,
>Nerilka's Song and DragonsEye) and have discarded each one immediately
after I
>read them. I do not believe them worth keeping, at least for me.
Just wondering why you didn't like Moreta? I can see that Nerilka and DE
might be too far off from the topic and characters we love most, but not
liking Moreta? It is such a nice story about dragonriders...anyway, I'd be
interested to know what your reasons are.
MaoYenDkC
>
>>I cannot stand the 'middle books' as I call the non-ninth Pass books
>(Moreta,
>>Nerilka's Song and DragonsEye) and have discarded each one immediately
>after I
>>read them. I do not believe them worth keeping, at least for me.
>
>
Granted, Moreta had to grow on me, but I loved Nerilka. It was the eighth book
I read in the series, having followed publication dates. Perhaps, because I
began in on the series at 11 (am now a meager 23), Nerilka's story is more
appealing to a troubled teen. As for Dragon'sEye, I enjoyed the glimpse of
Pern before Traditions were firmly set, and the view of Landing's Legacy was
historically fresh.
Cat
Julie Hinz
past Christmas. Since then I've read the books in this order:
DragonsDawn
Chronicles(First Fall)
Moreta
Dragonflight
DragonQuest
and I'm on the 3rd chapter of the White Dragon now. I can't seem to get
into it. Anna says the reason I don't like the Dragonriders books is b/c I
read Moreta(her fav.) and Dragons Dawn(my fav, so far.) before them. I
definately reccommend starting with D1, 2, and 3 before reading the others
or you'll be bored with the story. Well maybe not. It could just be me.
:+) Don't get me wrong. I love Lessa and F'lar and Brekke and all of those
characters, but I like the earlier(chronologically) stories better. I just
wish I could get into D3 b/c I haven't read like I used to (I read tons!)
since I started it. I guess I should give it a better chance. :+)
Julie
Linda Sardonell
>
> Granted, Moreta had to grow on me, but I loved Nerilka.
Me too! I grew up with some low self esteem issues, and Nerilka really
hit the nail on the head. Kind of like a Pernese Cinderella story. An
unmarriagable daughter manages to get the attention of the most eligible
bachelor on Pern, despite all the cards stacked against her.
Linda Sardonell
Hartley Patterson
> What I was wondering was what order you read the series in.
No choice really - as they came out!
I suspect that's the best way to read them rather than chronologically.
As some have already suggested, the two Menolly novels might appeal more
to younger readers as they have a smaller scope and a teenager as a
central character.
Personally I find stories about 'ordinary' folk just as interesting as
those that centre on the dragons and dragonriders.
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like...
I should go back and reread her, I loved Menolly for the same reason. But I
could never read the first half of the first HH book. Still can't, really.
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Evelyn Bond
I, too, enjoyed Nerilka's Story better than Moreta. Although I read them
both when I was an adult, I still found the unappreciated daughter who
finds her own way type story more interesting (IMHO) than that of Moreta.
I don't know why I don't enjoy Moreta as much as other AM's books
(although any AM book is an enjoyable read).
Perhaps other people could share which book they liked better and why?
Relurking,
Evelyn
Frank Wood
"Weyr Search", copyright 1966/7, which later grew into "Dragonflight". But
that's for reasons connected with my personal chronology. It doesn't make a
lot of difference, really. Although logic suggests reading them in the Pern
chronology, publication order may be better from the character development
point of view. You get a lot more:- "Ah, THAT'S how, or why such-and such
happened" out of them, that way. It's probably more fun.
--
Frank Wood
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characters. "Dragonsdawn" has only Sorka and Sean, and they spend most of
the book in rather peripheral roles. But Lessa (in the early books), Jaxom,
Menolly, Nerilka, Jayge, Aramina, Readis, Piemur, Brekke, Mirrim, Robinton
and others in MHOP, and probably some I've left out, are all characters that
young people can identify with. That's before you look at The Rowan, Damia,
Afra, Peter Reidinger, and Tirla in the ESP set, and Todd and his mate in
the Doona series. And many others in the short stories: Keevan, Peri,
Aramina again, and so on. Me, I'm 60: and I still read them all two and
three times a year.
--
Frank Wood
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E.Preston III & Shelly K. Walker wrote in message
<36F812...@icok.net>...
>I agree with some other readers here, I recommend starting the series
>with The Dragonriders of Pern trilogy. Yes, it was where I started, but
>more importantly, I think Dragonsdawn could be boring to someone who
>doesn't know Pern. If I'm speaking to a younger person, (12ish?) I'll
>frequently encourage the Harper Hall Trilogy first. Just for info, I'm
>33.
Frank Wood
Probably (and this, as Anne says, is subject to change) "Dragonsong";
"Dragonsinger" (these really need to be read as a pair, anyway); Nerilka;
ATWOP; "Renegades"; then, who knows?
Outside the dragons, "To Ride Pegasus"; "The Rowan"; and then selected short
stories.
I'm sure a psychologist would make something out of that!
Perhaps a request for the LEAST read books might prove interesting.
--
Frank Wood
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Evelyn Bond wrote in message ...
Ronda Grogan
> >
> I, too, enjoyed Nerilka's Story better than Moreta. Although I read them
> both when I was an adult, I still found the unappreciated daughter who
> finds her own way type story more interesting (IMHO) than that of Moreta.
> I don't know why I don't enjoy Moreta as much as other AM's books
> (although any AM book is an enjoyable read).
*grin*
I mentioned my own preference about a month ago (definitely Nerilka), and
was rebuffed for my lack of tender feelings. To tell you the truth, I'm
not exactly sure why I didn't appreciate Moreta. Perhaps it was because
it was the first non-9th pass book I read. Maybe I appreciate a happy
ending more. I'm not sure.
Glad someone else agrees about those two...
Ronda
Dave S
Ronda Grogan wrote in message ...
>On Thu, 25 Mar 1999, Evelyn Bond wrote:
>> >
>> I, too, enjoyed Nerilka's Story better than Moreta
>
>was rebuffed for my lack of tender feelings. To tell you the truth, I'm
>not exactly sure why I didn't appreciate Moreta.
Here goes: The two books were meant to be very different things. One was a
history, one was a love story.
The way I always saw it was like this:
1. Since I've always read the books as they were published, Moreta was the
first non-Ninth Pass weyrwoman I got to read about. I'd already had six
other books to teach me how to think about the Pernese, and I had strong
likes and dislikes among that group of folks. I had already read and reread
the first six books over and over enough times to nearly quote it chapter
and verse. In short, I KNEW those people. Then along came Moreta, and
everything, and everyone, was different than what I knew.
2. Moreta, as a book, was not part of the Lessa generation. The people
acted differently. The characters were less well defined, so my feelings
about that group of people wasn't as confirmed. I remember reading the book
when it first was published, (mid-80's was it?), mainly because it gave me
the story behind the legend, rather than because I wanted to read a
non-Ninth Pass story. When I was finished, I remember thinking, "Well,
wasn't that, um, interesting." And I've never had a burning desire to read
it over and over, as I do the Ninth Pass books. (Even though I have.)
3. IMHO, Moreta, as a woman, was kind of a shrewish, manipulative,
self-serving person, in her way very much like Kylara, but without the
selfishness. I only came to care about her near the end of the book - when
she died. As I recall, I was more outraged over the loss of Leri's tired
old queen dragon, and by those left behind. I wasn't that disappointed that
Moreta was gone - perhaps because the LEGEND of her had preceded the story,
and I knew how it ended. She "saved the planet from plague, then went
between," or some such. So I knew ahead of time she was going to die. It
wasn't a surprise.
4. Nerilka, as a person, was "real." She had honest feelings, and the
story did have that Cinderella feeling to it. It was a choke-you-up story,
and it was intended to hit us right in the heart. And it did.
5. By the time Nerilka was published, I'd had time enough to read Moreta
again, so the characters were more familiar to me, and it was easier to let
the love story take me away. And to this day, I consider Nerilka's Story to
be a "filler" book, not of any great importance, but a pleasant little story
to read on a rainy afternoon. In its way, it is to Moreta what the HH
trilogy is to the DR trilogy - amplification. It tells the same story from
another point of view.
My opinion, FWIW. <puts weyrhide in place> Let the flames begin... :)
--Dave
JPmiaou
Dragonriders trilogy (or the first two of the trilogy). I personally started
with Harper hall (can't remember if I did Song or Singer first), and was
somewhat confused about the whole concept of "between" until I met Lessa et al.
Don't get me wrong--I _love_ HH. As a friend I recently introduced to Pern
said, I want to live at Harper Hall. But as an introduction to Pern,
Dragonriders works best. (Even better for those intimidated by length is the
short story version of Fax and Lessa.)
Julia
/\ /\
>*.*<
Lissa Roan
Hartley Patterson wrote:
> JeReMy wrote:
>
> > What I was wondering was what order you read the series in.
>
> No choice really - as they came out!
>
> I agree. Certain concepts, like between, thread, and a few events that
> link between the two books do make more sense if you read the
> Dragonrider's trilogy first. Howver, two points that I found:
1. The HH trilogy really is easier for younger readers- I read
the two trilogies in 6th grade. The Dragonriders were really interesting
during Impressions and more of the action sequences, but the politics went
over my head. The HH trilogy focuses less on politics and more on
interpersonal relationships- especially those with parents, friends, and
teachers. But when I reread the Pern books recently, as a grad student, I
loved the Dragonrider trilogy even more than the HH.
2. If you are more into sci fi or are more of a sci-fi fan as
opposed to fantasy, DDawn is one of the best reads. That book really
captured a different part of my imagination.
Just my 2 cents.
Liss
Khaleth
>the two trilogies in 6th grade. The Dragonriders were really interesting
>during Impressions and more of the action sequences, but the politics went
>over my head. The HH trilogy focuses less on politics and more on
>interpersonal relationships- especially those with parents, friends, and
>teachers. But when I reread the Pern books recently, as a grad student, I
>loved the Dragonrider trilogy even more than the HH.
The HH trilogy was my first introduction to Pern, way back when, and it's
always been my favorite. Even now that I'm in college, I still like it better
than the Dragonrider trilogy. Of course, now I have a tendency to sit and pick
apart all fiction books that I read, as a carryover from English classes,
but... >_<
I don't know that it's a 'younger readers' versus 'older readers' thing, just
that some people like certain aspects of Pern better than others. I like Moreta
the book but I'm not that fond of Moreta the person, so I still read the book.
I like the HH books better than the Drider books, but I still read all of them.
I'm on a Pern-book binge at the moment, as a matter of fact. :) (Should be
doing homework. Grr.)
DJV1125
were to be many deviations from pre-read and conceived notions culled from
earlier books. I was expecting some heroic tale as the Ballad of Moreta's Ride
alluded to in the earlier books. What I got was a story about a depressing
disease. the ending scene was touching, but mostly because of the paradox of
riderless dragon/dragonless rider. the ending is now all I remember clearly.
Nerilka shocked me as being the same story as Moreta. I did not like it the
first time, and felt greatly ripped off that it was the same story rehashed.
But what turned me off the most were the pictures. I really laugh in general at
the inked in photos that were used, and was absolutely outraged when the cover
of the White dragon was hanging on the wall in one illustration! It struck me
as a really cheap knock-off, fan published fictional wanna be. I just cannot
see past all that to see any relevance to reading the story of keeping the book
in my collection.
Hartley Patterson
> Here goes: The two books were meant to be very different things. One was a
> history, one was a love story.
[Foolishly tried to guess at author's motives...]
Moreta was a story that AMC was going to *have* to write eventually.
Nerilka however was one that she wanted to write, being curious about
the story behind one of the characters. And she took the opportunity to
try a different style, first person narrative.
Telling the same story from another point of view sometimes works, as in
Dragonsinger where Menolly's very personal quest is suddenly interrupted
by an outside event, and we learn how not just the Weyrs but all Pern
was caught up in the drama. Sometimes it doesn't, as with Robinton's
disguised presence at a previously narrated event in MasterHarper, which
I thought too contrived.
Lindsay Endell
> J. R. J. wrote
>
> > I've read the series three times now and I've read it in a different
> order
> >each time. The first time, the order went this way:...<snip>
>
> > The second time, I read them in Pernese chronological order. The last
> >time, I read them in complete order of publication.
>
> So, my question to you is, which order do you think is best, or most
> enjoyable? :)
> I have read them twice, both times in publication order. But now I am
> thinking of reading them again in Pern chronological order. Wondering if you
> had a preference?
>
My preference is
D1, D2, D3
H1, H2, H3
White Dragon
Moreta
Nerilka
RoP
Dragonsdawn
AtWoP
Chronicles/First Fall
DoP
Red Star Rising
Masterharper
Which I've just bought and thus am re-reading the whole series :-).
Linz
--
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Coelura
JDV wrote --
>snippage<
>But what turned me off the most were the pictures. I really laugh in general
>at
>the inked in photos that were used, and was absolutely outraged when the
>cover
>of the White dragon was hanging on the wall in one illustration! It struck
>me
>as a really cheap knock-off, fan
Ohmigosh!!!!! I never noticed that before! (or if I did just ignored it and
forgot it) How cool! I think it's hillarious!
As to reading Moreta and Nerilka...I think they are great stories by Anne.
They point out that life isn't all wonderful and everyone lives happily ever
after.
I really love the books when the characters have their struggles but end up
happily, but life isn't always that way. I think that's what Anne was trying
to prove with both books. Neither was very happy at the end. Sure Nerilka
ends up with 'the guy' but how happy were they as man and wife? Not very I
think.
Becky
Coe...@aol.com
"...no one will know it's coelura unless you let 'em."
The Coelura, by Anne McCaffrey
Sariel
>>But what turned me off the most were the pictures. I really laugh in
general
>>at
>>the inked in photos that were used, and was absolutely outraged when the
>>cover
>>of the White dragon was hanging on the wall in one illustration! It
struck
>>me
>>as a really cheap knock-off, fan
>
>Ohmigosh!!!!! I never noticed that before! (or if I did just ignored it
and
>forgot it) How cool! I think it's hillarious!
All the dragon art in Nerilka is stolen from Whelan covers. Compare them to
the covers from D1 and D2, and you'll recognize them all!
What I fail to understand (implying I understand the dragon
rip-offs--obviously an untalented artist) is why the pictures almost but
don't quite match the text. It seems like the artist must have read it, but
ignored bits--for example, Nerilka is supposed to be quite a bit talled than
Anella, but they're shown as equal height in one pic. I suppose the artist
may have just been told a few details about each scene, but the people
otherwise match their descriptions (or my personal image of them) quite
well.
DJV1125
our local bookstore and I did notice all the other Whelan covers in one form or
another.
If you all honestly recommend the books, I will buy them again and reread
them trying to keep an open mind. I have not looked at them since they first
came out and that was a long time ago!
I have been learning a lot lately about having an open mind.
Dan
Sariel
>The [Nerilka] pics to me look very SCA.
Pardon my ignorance...SCA?
> If you all honestly recommend the books, I will buy them again and
reread
>them trying to keep an open mind. I have not looked at them since they
first
>came out and that was a long time ago!
> I have been learning a lot lately about having an open mind.
I recommend trying them at least one more time, sometimes opinions change,
sometimes they don't. Moreta and Nerilka are actually my favorites as
individual books--the rest I enjoy in summation, but they don't stand out as
strongly individually. Nerilka especially, probably because of how much
more personally focussed it is because it's written in 1st person point of
view. But as you've seen from this discussion thread, everyone has their
own reactions, and not everyone likes the same things!
jme...@hotmail.com
Sariel wrote in message
>DJV1125 wrote in message <19990327013651...@ng105.aol.com>...
>>The [Nerilka] pics to me look very SCA.
>
>Pardon my ignorance...SCA?
>
Society for Creative Anachronism.
Dedicated to the recreation and enjoyment of the best parts of the Middle
Ages. You know, the feasting the fighting, the.... ummm revelry <weg>.
Linda Sardonell
>
>
> As to reading Moreta and Nerilka...I think they are great stories by Anne.
> They point out that life isn't all wonderful and everyone lives happily ever
> after.
> I really love the books when the characters have their struggles but end up
> happily, but life isn't always that way. I think that's what Anne was trying
> to prove with both books. Neither was very happy at the end. Sure Nerilka
> ends up with 'the guy' but how happy were they as man and wife? Not very I
> think.
>
and Sallah Telgar.
Linda Sardonell
Linda Sardonell
>
>
> All the dragon art in Nerilka is stolen from Whelan covers. Compare them to
> the covers from D1 and D2, and you'll recognize them all!
> What I fail to understand (implying I understand the dragon
> rip-offs--obviously an untalented artist) is why the pictures almost but
> don't quite match the text. It seems like the artist must have read it, but
> ignored bits--for example, Nerilka is supposed to be quite a bit talled than
> Anella, but they're shown as equal height in one pic. I suppose the artist
> may have just been told a few details about each scene, but the people
> otherwise match their descriptions (or my personal image of them) quite
> well.
>
short hair, way before the book said she cut it. For some reason, that
really bothered me.
Linda Sardonell
Linda Sardonell
>
> The pics to me look very SCA. And yes, I was looking thru the book today at
> our local bookstore and I did notice all the other Whelan covers in one form or
> another.
> them trying to keep an open mind. I have not looked at them since they first
> came out and that was a long time ago!
> I have been learning a lot lately about having an open mind.
If you were not happy with them in the first place but are willing to
reread them, I suggest that before you spend money, go to the library.
Linda Sardonell
MaoYenDkC
>and Sallah Telgar.
I will agree strongly..another teary scene on all my rereads.
Cat
Lindsay Endell
>
> As to reading Moreta and Nerilka...I think they are great stories by Anne.
> They point out that life isn't all wonderful and everyone lives happily ever
> after.
I always cry at the crisis point of Moreta. Always. Can't read it out
of the house...
> I really love the books when the characters have their struggles but end up
> happily, but life isn't always that way. I think that's what Anne was trying
> to prove with both books. Neither was very happy at the end. Sure Nerilka
> ends up with 'the guy' but how happy were they as man and wife? Not very I
> think.
>
I'd disagree. I think Nerilka makes Alessan happy and that's why he
doesn't suicide - he intended only living until there was an heir to
Ruatha but by the end of Nerilka there are at least two children
mentioned (of whom Moreta is one). And isn't there a line about how he
reaches out for Nerilka at night?
Taki Kogoma
"Lur...@The.Threshold" <jme...@hotmail.com> allegedly proclaimed:
>
>Sariel wrote in message
>>DJV1125 wrote in message <19990327013651...@ng105.aol.com>...
>>>The [Nerilka] pics to me look very SCA.
>>
>>Pardon my ignorance...SCA?
>>
><snip>
>
>Society for Creative Anachronism.
Not to be confused with the Society for Creative Anarchism.
Gym "Okay. So the SCA will attempt to destroy the Boy Sprouts with
assistance from EmpTeeVee..." Quirk
--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."
-- Gene "spaf" Spafford (1992)
Hartley Patterson
>
> DJV1125 wrote in message <19990327013651...@ng105.aol.com>...
> >The [Nerilka] pics to me look very SCA.
>
> Pardon my ignorance...SCA?
Society for Creative Anachronism. California originated group founded in
the hippy/LSD days, devoted to medieval stuff, and well worth
investigating. Try
http://www.sca.org/
of course. They are a good resource for information on medieval things.
There is also a UK society, the Far Isles Medieval Society
http://members.aol.com/farisles/index.html
which I plug because a friend of mine is currently it's Prince
Archbishop!
Hartley Patterson
> I'd disagree. I think Nerilka makes Alessan happy and that's why he
> doesn't suicide - he intended only living until there was an heir to
> Ruatha but by the end of Nerilka there are at least two children
> mentioned (of whom Moreta is one). And isn't there a line about how he
> reaches out for Nerilka at night?
Precisely. Most relationships in AMCs stories are between individuals,
not stereotype heroes and heroines. Quite a few of them don't fit with
our ideals of what they ought to be like, as with the stormy, complex
Lessa/F'lar one that was debated here a while ago. Or
Robinton/Menolly/Sebell, that I would guess jumped out at AMC
unexpectedly, and she had the good sense to follow it to its logical
conclusion.
This is what *should* happen in stories. The characters take over, the
Universe takes over, and the author is left frantically scribbling to
record it all. It happens - now and then - in roleplaying games, and it
makes it all worth while when it does.
Hartley Patterson
>
> Not to be confused with the Society for Creative Anarchism.
>
> Gym "Okay. So the SCA will attempt to destroy the Boy Sprouts with
> assistance from EmpTeeVee..." Quirk
OK, *I* got that reference, but who else did.... Not played that one for
ages.<g>
Walisers (Tricia, Stefani, or Tony)
Khaleth <kha...@aol.comatose> wrote in article
<19990326030422...@ng-ch1.aol.com>...
> I don't know that it's a 'younger readers' versus 'older readers' thing,
just
> that some people like certain aspects of Pern better than others. I like
Moreta
> the book but I'm not that fond of Moreta the person, so I still read the
book.
> I like the HH books better than the Drider books, but I still read all of
them.
> I'm on a Pern-book binge at the moment, as a matter of fact. :) (Should
be
> doing homework. Grr.)
I am an older reader, but started reading about Anne's dragonriders when I
was a freshman year in high school when I read a short story in a sci-fi
magazine called "Weyr Search". Didn't miss any of her stories since. I
still can recall seeing "Dragonflight" in paperback the first time. So
I've read her Pern books in publication order. I couldn't wait for the
next in series. And since there were years between books, I treasure every
single one. The anticipation for each new story made them more precious.
I still re-read them and as I get older my life experiences highlights
aspects of each story differently. That is a true indication of how good
of an author Anne McCaffry is.
Tricia W. (if you know the publication date of "Weyr Search" you know my
age).
Evelyn Bond
Isn't Nerilka's Story the book that has a picture of a queen egg
hatching? That picture always cracks me up. The dragon looks about the
size of what I picture a fire lizard to be. Certainly not large enough to
kill and maim girls as in D1!
Evelyn Bond
Linda Sardonell
> >
> >
> Isn't Nerilka's Story the book that has a picture of a queen egg
> hatching? That picture always cracks me up. The dragon looks about the
> size of what I picture a fire lizard to be. Certainly not large enough to
> kill and maim girls as in D1!
>
> Evelyn Bond
Yes, Exactly! most of those picures have me either laughing or going
'huh?'
Linda Sardonell
Mariah Walker
>Isn't Nerilka's Story the book that has a picture of a queen egg
>hatching? That picture always cracks me up. The dragon looks about the
>size of what I picture a fire lizard to be. Certainly not large enough to
>kill and maim girls as in D1!
Yep. I noticed that too. Also the pic of her sitting down with Alessan and
the others to have a meal, after a hard day's work preparing serum, she is
wearing some sort of floral hairpiece. Didn't fit with the image of her at
the time! LOL!
Mariah
I'm spamblocking...e-mail address is:
mariawa att unixg dott ubc dot ca
DJV1125
Evelyn Bond wrote
>Isn't Nerilka's Story the book that has a picture of a queen egg
>hatching? That picture always cracks me up. The dragon looks about the
>size of what I picture a fire lizard to be. Certainly not large enough to
>kill and maim girls as in D1!
>>Yep. I noticed that too. Also the pic of her sitting down with Alessan and
the others to have a meal, after a hard day's work preparing serum, she is
wearing some sort of floral hairpiece. Didn't fit with the image of her at
the time! LOL!
>>Mariah
Yes! Those are the kinds of things that make me really wonder what
editors/publishers are thinking when they put out a book.
It also makes me really wonder about the proposed Pern TV project.
Dan V
to...@my-dejanews.com
Hartley Patterson <hpt...@REMOVE.ME.vossnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Taki Kogoma wrote:
>
> >
> > Not to be confused with the Society for Creative Anarchism.
> >
> > Gym "Okay. So the SCA will attempt to destroy the Boy Sprouts with
> > assistance from EmpTeeVee..." Quirk
>
> OK, *I* got that reference, but who else did.... Not played that one for
> ages.<g>
>
Oh, you're not the only one. I got it, I just had some problems with DejaNews,
so I couldn't post a reply.
Tosus of the Illuminati
"I have ... returned!"
-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
SR10P
They just read a scene and pretty much have no clue about what's going on
before hand. You can't blame them, tho -- they're so overbooked on projects
they just dont' have time to read every book that they're doing art for. ; )
Anna
Clare Bainbridge
most of the other;s at least three time but i can't stand Moreta's Ride. one
of the reason for this is two infurating inacurasys
1 In Dragonflight it is clearly stated on more than once that Moreta is
from Rutha but in Moreta's ride she is for Koroon(i can never remember how
to spell this) as that is the reason she dilivered the vacsien
2. In Dragonflight Moreta is said to be able to talk to all dragons, chapter
Black Dust F'nor reporting to F'lar complaing abaut all the dust lessa tall
F'nor it like in the ballad of moreta ride "crack dust black dust" F'lar
snaps "I don't wont to be reminded of moreta now < she could talk to all
dragons " lessa replies "but i can do that"
p.s i was tyring to find the del ray web page but the was 360 results to my
search if any onehas the address please send me it
Kathryn
Linda Sardonell
>
> 1 In Dragonflight it is clearly stated on more than once that Moreta is
> from Rutha but in Moreta's ride she is for Koroon(i can never remember how
> to spell this) as that is the reason she dilivered the vacsien
There was a Moreta from Ruatha, she was just born after the first Moreta
died. See Nerilka's Story, toward the end.
> 2. In Dragonflight Moreta is said to be able to talk to all dragons, chapter
> Black Dust F'nor reporting to F'lar complaing abaut all the dust lessa tall
> F'nor it like in the ballad of moreta ride "crack dust black dust" F'lar
> snaps "I don't wont to be reminded of moreta now < she could talk to all
> dragons " lessa replies "but i can do that"
This NG has concluded that the possibility exists that the second Moreta
is the one that could hear all dragons and that over time the two
Moretas had been meshed together. It happens.
Linda Sardonell
Hartley Patterson
> i can't stand Moreta's Ride. one
> of the reason for this is two infurating inacurasys
>
> from Rutha but in Moreta's ride she is for Koroon(i can never remember how
> to spell this) as that is the reason she dilivered the vacsien
>
> Black Dust F'nor reporting to F'lar complaing abaut all the dust lessa tall
> F'nor it like in the ballad of moreta ride "crack dust black dust" F'lar
> snaps "I don't wont to be reminded of moreta now < she could talk to all
> dragons " lessa replies "but i can do that"
There is a simple explanation. 9th Pass knowledge of Moreta is based on
the choral work 'Moreta's Ride', which is somewhat 'economical with the
truth'. See 'Dragonsinger' for a synopsis of the work, compare that
carefully to the real story, and you'll understand.
Madca28626
>search if any onehas the address please send me it
www.radomhouse.com/delray/
legion tech the mercenery supplyer of choice
Linda Sardonell
Jim Yang
memory, aren't we?
But yes, *great big sigh* it's true.
> 1 In Dragonflight it is clearly stated on more than once that Moreta is
> from Rutha but in Moreta's ride she is for Koroon(i can never remember how
> to spell this) as that is the reason she dilivered the vacsien
It not only said that Moreta was from Ruatha, it also said that she was
Weyrwoman of Benden. Pg. 99-"Look around you, Less of Pern, look around the Weyr
with unveiled eyes. Old and hallowed is the Weyr? Yes, but shabby and worn-and
disregarded. Yes, you were elated to sit in the Weyrwoman's great chair at the
Council Table, but the padding is thin and the fabric dusty. Humbled to think
your hands rested where Moreta's and Torene's did?..."Well, I suppose Moreta
could have been there visiting, but really? Besides, Torene is a Benden
Weyrwoman in all the books, so wouldn't you suppose that Moreta had been too if
you hadn't read Moreta: Dragonlady of Pern?
> 2. In Dragonflight Moreta is said to be able to talk to all dragons, chapter
> Black Dust F'nor reporting to F'lar complaing abaut all the dust lessa tall
> F'nor it like in the ballad of moreta ride "crack dust black dust" F'lar
> snaps "I don't wont to be reminded of moreta now < she could talk to all
> dragons " lessa replies "but i can do that"
>
Well, maybe she tries not to? In Chronicles, Torene mentions trying not to use
her gift to her advantage. Anyway, whatever...
> p.s i was tyring to find the del ray web page but the was 360 results to my
> search if any onehas the address please send me it
>
The address is: http://www.randomhouse.com/delrey/ (I'm not sure, it might be
'delray'). I bookmarked that a _long_ time ago. (actually following a series of
links leading to Del Rey's 'Year of Pern' page)
--Tina(yea, the coffee's still working)
"Even when hope and science fail us, art survives."
-Janet
Maslin
DJV1125
>search if any onehas the address please send me it
>
>
Try this, Kathryn:
Go on Search...I use the wonderful search engine called Ask Jeeves. It compiles
many search engines into one site
www.askjeeves.com
Type in The Year of Pern .....click on the yahoo link to the site. That is
where the Intervies is about masterharper, and at the bottom of the page is the
link to the official delrey site.
I know there is a more direct way, but this way is fun! Try it.
Dan V
Tariel
Jim Yang wrote in message <37096DE2...@sasked.gov.sk.ca>...
>We're harping a little too much on Anne McCaffrey's (perhaps not too great)
>memory, aren't we?
>But yes, *great big sigh* it's true.
>Weyrwoman of Benden. Pg. 99-"Look around you, Less of Pern, look around the
Weyr
>with unveiled eyes. Old and hallowed is the Weyr? Yes, but shabby and
worn-and
>disregarded. Yes, you were elated to sit in the Weyrwoman's great chair at
the
>Council Table, but the padding is thin and the fabric dusty. Humbled to
think
>your hands rested where Moreta's and Torene's did?..."Well, I suppose
Moreta
>could have been there visiting, but really? Besides, Torene is a Benden
>Weyrwoman in all the books, so wouldn't you suppose that Moreta had been
too if
>you hadn't read Moreta: Dragonlady of Pern?
The only thing I can come up with is that perhaps he was speaking
metaphorically, in order to add weight to her responsibility? You know,
she's
taking on the 'mantle' of the senior Weyrwoman of not only Benden but of
Pern (at the time), stepping into a place that they once filled.
Stretching, but...
JR
Tariel
Tariel
Tariel
Tariel
Tariel
<sheepish>
JR
Tariel wrote in message <7ec4cp$2em$1...@news.duke.edu>...
Taki Kogoma
"Clare Bainbridge" <yn...@dial.pipex.com> allegedly proclaimed:
>1 In Dragonflight it is clearly stated on more than once that Moreta is
>from Rutha but in Moreta's ride she is for Koroon(i can never remember how
>to spell this) as that is the reason she dilivered the vacsien
>
>Black Dust F'nor reporting to F'lar complaing abaut all the dust lessa tall
>F'nor it like in the ballad of moreta ride "crack dust black dust" F'lar
>snaps "I don't wont to be reminded of moreta now < she could talk to all
>dragons " lessa replies "but i can do that"
<http://kumo.swcp.com/~quirk/afp3.html#sec3j>
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quirk @ swcp.com | superior to what I have now."
Veteran of the '91 sf-lovers re-org. | -- Gym Quirk
C.L.F.
>
> That's a very interesting idea. I did that, from the origanal short story
> "Weyr Search", copyright 1966/7, which later grew into "Dragonflight". But
> that's for reasons connected with my personal chronology. It doesn't make a
> lot of difference, really. Although logic suggests reading them in the Pern
> chronology, publication order may be better from the character development
> point of view. You get a lot more:- "Ah, THAT'S how, or why such-and such
> happened" out of them, that way. It's probably more fun.
>
> --
> Frank Wood
> fr...@woodf-l.dircon.co.uk
> Sariel wrote in message ...
> >
> >I think it's important for people to read them in copyright order the first
> >time through the series--the order you first read them in can really shape
> >your view of Pern. But after that, read them any way you like!
I read them in copyright order. But then when I started reading them,
there were only 5 or 6 (I forget if WD was published just before I
started or just as I was ready for it!).
I think that copyright order is the best way, first time thru. I think
that some of the inconsistencies endlessly debated here are due to AM's
personal maturation and the development of her ideas of Pern and its
characters. I think that if you read them in the order she wrote them,
you see how her ideas developed.
My opinion!
Christine
--
C.L. Forber
mailto:clfo...@interlog.com
Dave S
E.Preston III & Shelly K. Walker wrote in message
<370AD3...@icok.net>...
>Of course, I bend to the idea that over 25 hundred turns, history can
>get convoluted. The two Moretas could be intertwined in the minds of the
>9th pass folk. Honestly, unless you've made a study of history, we
>basically know only thumbnail sketches of our own history a thousand
>years ago.
>Shelly
I'd think also having the two women living so closely together in time would
cause a confusion in later Passes, since nobody would realize there were two
Moretas. Pern also doesn't use last names in later Turns, nor is there ever
an (obvious) using of a name a second time, (a in a "Junior" or "the
Second"), so it's only natural the confusion would exist. I have two
great-something-grandfathers who are father and son, with the same first and
last names, and it really caused the family genealogical confusion over who
did what.
The other Moreta possibility, of course, is that when AM wrote Dragonflight,
she had to have a place for Moreta to be. Being a Benden Weyrwoman sounded
like a pretty good place. Seven books later, when it came time to actually
write the story, it worked out differently. And I always figured AM had
written in the second Moreta to "cover" for the errors in previous books.
That's part of the problem with fiction, I think - things get screwed up
sometimes. Despite the author's best intentions.
For example, to bring up new information (to me) about a popular and
never-ending error in the books: Depending on where and when you read it,
his name is either Lytol or L'tol. Draconic honorific, ok. But in MoP,
(pp. 148 of the US hardback), he's "Lytonal." It's in the paragraph that
talks about the results of F'lon's Impression of his bronze.
Worse, we all know his dragon changes from green to brown early on. But did
you also know his dragon's name changes too? In the "Who's Who" at the back
of my above-mentioned copy of MoP, his name is "Lartha."
Go figure...
--Dave
C.L.F.
> Perhaps other people could share which book they liked better and why?
Favourite Pern book: White Dragon
why? Good plot, characters who were easy to like. A bit more developed
than DF which may be my second fave (that is harder to pick!)
Least Fave Pern book: Either Nerilka or Renegades
Why? Somehow Nerilka seemed very so-what-ish after Moreta (which I found
incredibly depressing) As for Renegades, somehow it has never seemed to
hold together as well most of the rest of the Pern books.
I've re-read the original DR trilogy and the HH trilogy more times than
I can count. Probably at least once a year for the past 20+ years.
(enough times to wear out several copies of each!)
I don't think I've ever re-read Nerilka and I'm not sure if I've re-read
Moreta (probably once or twice).
E.Preston III & Shelly K. Walker
daughter. AM has written precious little on the second Moreta, so we
actually know next to nothing about her. We know the younger Moreta was
born into Ruatha, and we know she became a dragonrider, a Weyrwoman of
Benden, and she heard all dragons.
Of course, I bend to the idea that over 25 hundred turns, history can
get convoluted. The two Moretas could be intertwined in the minds of the
9th pass folk. Honestly, unless you've made a study of history, we
basically know only thumbnail sketches of our own history a thousand
years ago.
Shelly
For every action, there is an equal and
opposite critizim. Conversely, no one
is listening until you make a mistake.
barb...@eudoramail.com
>
>Perhaps other people could share which book they liked better and why?
Dragonsinger, Menolly walking the tables after so much doubt.
Barbara Needham
Paul G. Barnes
Hash: SHA1
Dave S wrote in message ...
>For example, to bring up new information (to me) about a popular and
>never-ending error in the books: Depending on where and when you
read it,
>his name is either Lytol or L'tol. Draconic honorific, ok. But in
MoP,
>(pp. 148 of the US hardback), he's "Lytonal." It's in the paragraph
that
>talks about the results of F'lon's Impression of his bronze.
I noticed that too. I grew up reading Marvel Comics. Stan Lee was fond
of saying that there were no continuity errors in his comic books.
This of course spawned a competition to explain what would otherwise
have been a continuity error. When an explanation was sufficient, Stan
Lee would give a no-prize to the person who did the explaining. I
always waned one of those, so here goes:
Lytonal impressed Larth and changed his name to L'tol. When Larth was
lost, L'tol changed his name to Lytol in order to signify that while
he was no longer a dragon rider (L'tol), he was also not the same man
he was before he impressed Larth (Lytonal).
>Worse, we all know his dragon changes from green to brown early on.
It probably didn't matter in Weyr Search, but for the purposes of the
rest of the stories, Lytol needed to be held in higher regard, so Ms.
McCaffrey upgraded Larth to a brown. When I read Weyr search, I just
mentally substitute "brown" for "green" in those few instances that
Larth's color is mentioned.
>But did
>you also know his dragon's name changes too? In the "Who's Who" at
the back
>of my above-mentioned copy of MoP, his name is "Lartha."
I attributed that to a proofreading mistake. Everyone knows that
dragon names end in -th.
I would like to see, for the 35th Anniversary Edition a completely
re-edited set of books with all of the continuity, editing, and
spelling errors fixed. Tolkien did it for Lord of the Rings...
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DJV1125
>re-edited set of books with all of the continuity, editing, and
>spelling errors fixed. Tolkien did it for Lord of the Rings...
Question...Do you think that makes the books better in the long run? As a
major Tolkien fan, I was kind of surprised at the editing changes. Not
shocked, but surprised. Now it seems I cannot go back and enjoy the versions I
'discovered' back in high school. Feel the same way about Pern now after all
the inconsistencies. The only way over that is for me to let long period of
time go by before I re- read them, or only do the Core books and forget the
divergent ones.
Dan V
Sariel
Linda Sardonell wrote in message <370932C7...@ameritech.net>...
>you mean www.randomhouse.com/delray/ ?
Although that address works (probably someone set up a pointer for it...),
it should be noted that the proper spelling is delrey, not delray.
_____________________________________
Sariel
chery...@home.com
http://www.srellim.org/pern_frames.htm
Sariel
Dragonflight,
>she had to have a place for Moreta to be. Being a Benden Weyrwoman sounded
>like a pretty good place. Seven books later, when it came time to actually
>write the story, it worked out differently. And I always figured AM had
>written in the second Moreta to "cover" for the errors in previous books.
I seriously doubt she was trying to cover for errors--probably wasn't even
thinking of them.
It makes sense to me that the legend of Moreta would have been exaggerated
and altered through time. She was thought later to have been a wonderful
Weyrwoman, so people probably assumed that she could hear all dragons. And
since Benden was the only remaining Weyr at the end of the 8th Interval, it
was assumed she must have been there.
E.Preston III & Shelly K. Walker
> It makes sense to me that the legend of Moreta would have been exaggerated
> and altered through time. She was thought later to have been a wonderful
> Weyrwoman, so people probably assumed that she could hear all dragons. And
> since Benden was the only remaining Weyr at the end of the 8th Interval, it
> was assumed she must have been there.
The weyr records seem very good about listing who was who concerning
weyrfolk. I seriously doubt F'lar and Lessa would voice that Moreta was
a Benden Weyrwoman if she was not. Again, Moreta Junior was such
weyrwoman.
C.L.F.
I agree with Dan. I think that that would spoil the history and some of
the fun. I have read almost all of the books as they were published and
have enjoyed "growing" with the series. (Bear in mind I was in my late
teens when I started reading these books!!)
I hope that they don't get "sanitized".
MuddDrgn
>Artists, unfortunately, seldom actually READ a book that they're doing art
>for.
> They just read a scene and pretty much have no clue about what's going on
>before hand. You can't blame them, tho -- they're so overbooked on projects
>they just dont' have time to read every book that they're doing art for. ; )
Boy, you guys missed a bit point with the Nerilka art completely! A large
portion of the pictures (as in, not the pics themselves but parts of the pics)
are copied almost totally from Whelan's cover art. For example, the picture of
Jaxom is just a copy of the cover of TWD. The "hatchling" also appears on a
Whelan cover--as a blue or green, I believe, in the background on the back
cover. (the same dragon appears again, reversed) I know there are more, I'm
just not sure where.
Zabagabe!
Phoebe
"I wish reality would quit harrassing me."