Ben Sparks no longer producer of The Opie & Anthony Show
Schwoogie Johnson
http://radiouncensored.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2006/7/24/2157173.html
Confirmed by Anthony:
"True, Ben is no longer with the show.
False, Ben was fired for the Howard fan incident.
Us being on in best of for Monday had nothing to do with anything show
related. We played in a charity golf event for CBS.
These are the facts. Anything else is pure speculation.
This is all I'm saying to clear things up so don't ask me anything
else."
Mark
DudeTomBrady I'm Fired Bwahahaa
news:1153790627....@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
> Looks like he got canned for attacking the Stern fan. What a douche.
>
I love the mindset of Goblin fans:
"Something good/bad/noteworthy happened to O&A, soo it must have something to
do with Howwid. Must correlate O&A badness to Howwid goodness."
Relax, its not Howwid who said it, so it just might be true. Ben may actually
have left the show for a reason NOT Stern related. I know this shocks you,
but things have been known to happen in the universe outside of Howard's
sphere of self-importance.
Mark
Jenosyde
a job. It's called watching out for your friends.
"Mark" <mar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Reaper G
If memory serves me correctly, Mark wrote:
> Looks like he got canned for attacking the Stern fan. What a douche.
The Stern fan attacked him, you dumb fuck.
Does this mean no more calls from "Ben from Boston?"
Reaper "WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Tom Brady! WAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" G
http://www.giantmonstermovies.com
Schwoogie Johnson
>Looks like he got canned for attacking the Stern fan. What a douche.
No. Can you read???
The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions
"Schwoogie Johnson" <schwoo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The fan said Ben attacked him first. This confirms it
--
The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Commander, Usenet OperAtions
Stern Fan: You steal a lot of shit from Howard
Anthony: Yeah, like his radio stations
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"DudeTomBrady I'm Fired Bwahahaa" <ben.s...@xmradio.com> wrote in message
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So what was all of the brouhaha with the brass after the incident? Why did
the fan claim Ben took the first swing and why did Ben (and all references
to him) disappear right after the incident? Is this not the very way the
boys have pointed out station's handle troubling incidents? If Ben's
departure was not because of this, why not say why he did depart?
I don't blame Ant for minimizing it because of all the legal issues but,
come on, how about a little reality?
Buster
OperAtions" <the_wi...@yahooY.com> said:
>
> "DudeTomBrady I'm Fired Bwahahaa" <ben.s...@xmradio.com> wrote in
> message news:12cb0pl...@corp.supernews.com...
>> "Mark" <mar...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1153790627....@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Looks like he got canned for attacking the Stern fan. What a douche.
>>>
>>
>> I love the mindset of Goblin fans:
>>
>> "Something good/bad/noteworthy happened to O&A, soo it must have something to
>> do with Howwid. Must correlate O&A badness to Howwid goodness."
>>
>> Relax, its not Howwid who said it, so it just might be true. Ben may actually
>> have left the show for a reason NOT Stern related. I know this shocks you,
>> but things have been known to happen in the universe outside of Howard's
>> sphere of self-importance.
>
> So what was all of the brouhaha with the brass after the incident? Why
> did the fan claim Ben took the first swing and why did Ben (and all
> references to him) disappear right after the incident? Is this not the
> very way the boys have pointed out station's handle troubling
> incidents? If Ben's departure was not because of this, why not say why
> he did depart?
> I don't blame Ant for minimizing it because of all the legal issues
> but, come on, how about a little reality?
Because the sad thing is that "the boys" are not very truthful about
what really goes on with their show. When you put yourself out there in
the past with statements like "we are so glad to be on satellite radio
and to have the freedom to say anything we like. We would never go back
to regular radio and the censorship." Then they go back to regular
radio because the money was right and they never address their past
statements. That in of itself is dishonest. AND to top it all off, the
CBS show is nowhere near as funny as the old XM show was. That's a
natural fact.
Igar
whiteninja
Bullshit - the show is better than ever, drone.
whiteninja
wrote:
>On 15 Aug 2006 20:46:02 -0500, White Ninja wrote:
>
>>>> So what was all of the brouhaha with the brass after the incident? Why
>>>> did the fan claim Ben took the first swing and why did Ben (and all
>>>> references to him) disappear right after the incident? Is this not the
>>>> very way the boys have pointed out station's handle troubling
>>>> incidents? If Ben's departure was not because of this, why not say why
>>>> he did depart?
>>>> I don't blame Ant for minimizing it because of all the legal issues
>>>> but, come on, how about a little reality?
>>>
>>>
>>>Because the sad thing is that "the boys" are not very truthful about
>>>what really goes on with their show. When you put yourself out there in
>>>the past with statements like "we are so glad to be on satellite radio
>>>and to have the freedom to say anything we like. We would never go back
>>>to regular radio and the censorship." Then they go back to regular
>>>radio because the money was right and they never address their past
>>>statements. That in of itself is dishonest. AND to top it all off, the
>>>CBS show is nowhere near as funny as the old XM show was. That's a
>>>natural fact.
>>>
>>Bullshit - the show is better than ever, drone.
>
>Of course it is! Being censored always improves everything.
As you have been told MANY times, (I'll type slowly so you can follow
along this time, hopefully), the XM feed is NEVER censored, and we get
more show than before. I'm sure you would consider it an improvement
to get more of your show, say if Hoohoo only took off 8 weeks, instead
of 12, or if he worked on Fridays.
BaJoRi
<White Ninja> wrote in message
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You are being disingenuous. You can't with a straight face try and claim
that O&A do not adjust their style for the hours in which there is a
terrestrial feed, in order to be FCC Compliant. I don't listen to the show,
so you will have to answer this, but have there been times when O&A have put
aside an item for alter in the day because they couldn't talk about it the
way they wanted to because of the terrestrial feed? Would you not say that
affects the quality of the show, not being able to talk about certain items
at any time?
Tim Donohoe
The XM is censored by virtue of the fact that there are certain things
they can't do or talk about while broadcasting on FM, they have to
censor themselves for their entire drivetime audience even if a few
dumps get heard on XM they screwed up their show for the extra cash. Not
to mention the extra commercials and breaks. You keep spinning and lying
for them though, they will need your support if they ever want to beat Imus.
KK
> Only trouble is, O&A have been
> proved as liars many more times than Howard,
Right.
KK
> Of course it is! Being censored always improves everything.
They're using it very cleverly.
You know, Stern *not* being censored hasn't helped him very much. Other
than all the hardcore gay shit. Not my cup of tea, but if it's yours then
more power to you.
KK
> The XM is censored by virtue of the fact that there are certain things
> they can't do or talk about while broadcasting on FM, they have to
> censor themselves for their entire drivetime audience even if a few
> dumps get heard on XM they screwed up their show for the extra cash
The show's been great. Being on FM gets them better guests and more
publicity. Those things add to the show.
SapperPest19
wrote:
>No, as a matter of fact, I think his shows are too long now. 5 hours
>is plenty. He's been doing a lot of 6 hour shows lately. See, I
>prefer quality over quantity.
So as long as his 8 shows a month are quality shows then you are
satisfied?
SapperPest19
I listen to 45-60 minutes of live show a day. Depending on when I
leave determines what part of the show I listen to live. I download
the show to my ipod while at work so I end up listening to the entire
show. Before their revolutionary satellite/terrestrial deal, O&A would
do a show that was 80-90% FCC friendly. Not 100% compliant but close
to it. So no, I don't think it affects the quality of the show. It may
even add to the show. It's like a game to try to explain some thing
while they are being broadcast on terrestrial. I find that
entertaining. There are item that can wait until they are not being
broadcast on terrestrial but some of them would be boring only on
satellite. For example, a guy who had a penis implant to help him get
hard. He was suing the manufacturer of the device because the device
was defective for 10 years. On only satellite, they would have
mentioned the article, made a few jokes, and moved on. But since it
was mentioned by a caller on terrestrial radio, they talked about it.
To hear O&A dancing around the wording was entertaining.
SapperPest19
wrote:
Do you understand that their show is not too much different than it
was before?
BaJoRi
"SapperPest19" <b...@bob.com> wrote in message
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We already know how you have scheduled your work day around O&A, arranging
your commute around the beginning of their show, etc. etc. etc. (as you have
admitted). So we are already aware that you won't even acknowledge the
obvious when it comes to O&A and their self-censorship.
It may
> even add to the show. It's like a game to try to explain some thing
> while they are being broadcast on terrestrial. I find that
> entertaining.
Riiiiight.
There are item that can wait until they are not being
> broadcast on terrestrial but some of them would be boring only on
> satellite. For example, a guy who had a penis implant to help him get
> hard. He was suing the manufacturer of the device because the device
> was defective for 10 years. On only satellite, they would have
> mentioned the article, made a few jokes, and moved on. But since it
> was mentioned by a caller on terrestrial radio, they talked about it.
> To hear O&A dancing around the wording was entertaining.
Riiiiight.
SapperPest19
When I worked 2 hours away, my commute coincided with the old XM show.
Now I work in the next city over and my commute is only 45-60 minutes
depending on traffic. But listening to the entire show is not related
to my objectiveness.
>It may
>> even add to the show. It's like a game to try to explain some thing
>> while they are being broadcast on terrestrial. I find that
>> entertaining.
>
>Riiiiight.
Exactly.
>There are item that can wait until they are not being
>> broadcast on terrestrial but some of them would be boring only on
>> satellite. For example, a guy who had a penis implant to help him get
>> hard. He was suing the manufacturer of the device because the device
>> was defective for 10 years. On only satellite, they would have
>> mentioned the article, made a few jokes, and moved on. But since it
>> was mentioned by a caller on terrestrial radio, they talked about it.
>> To hear O&A dancing around the wording was entertaining.
>
>Riiiiight.
Glad you agree.
The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions
<White Ninja> wrote in message
Yes, it is. The walkover and the dump list alone make it better
Buster
You are an INSANE liar! The old XM show was raunchy as hell. They
cursed at least once a minute, constant over the top sex talk in the
most graphic terms... how is ANY of that FCC compliant. If you're gonna
spin at least try to spin in a remotely believable way.
Buster
It's way different, douche bag. It was actually very funny at times
uncensored. Now it just plain sucks... the funny was drained out of it.
BaJoRi
You lie. Plain and simple. You are saying that the show is now better,
because of the self-censorship involved. That means that the XM show, before
the move to terrestrial, was sub-standard as such censoring was not
indulged, and topics were short-shrifted.
>>It may
>>> even add to the show. It's like a game to try to explain some thing
>>> while they are being broadcast on terrestrial. I find that
>>> entertaining.
>>
>>Riiiiight.
>
> Exactly.
>
>>There are item that can wait until they are not being
>>> broadcast on terrestrial but some of them would be boring only on
>>> satellite. For example, a guy who had a penis implant to help him get
>>> hard. He was suing the manufacturer of the device because the device
>>> was defective for 10 years. On only satellite, they would have
>>> mentioned the article, made a few jokes, and moved on. But since it
>>> was mentioned by a caller on terrestrial radio, they talked about it.
>>> To hear O&A dancing around the wording was entertaining.
>>
>>Riiiiight.
>
> Glad you agree.
Only in your feeble fantasy world.
SapperPest19
>"SapperPest19" <b...@bob.com> wrote in message
>
>> When I worked 2 hours away, my commute coincided with the old XM show.
>> Now I work in the next city over and my commute is only 45-60 minutes
>> depending on traffic. But listening to the entire show is not related
>> to my objectiveness.
>>
>
>You lie. Plain and simple. You are saying that the show is now better,
>because of the self-censorship involved. That means that the XM show, before
>the move to terrestrial, was sub-standard as such censoring was not
>indulged, and topics were short-shrifted.
Fuck, shit, cunt, pussy, cock, nigger, bitch. Was that the most
entertaining thing you have ever read? If so, then you are correct. It
is the words that make the show entertaining or not. If you think it
is the content, then listen up. Again. 80-90% of their shows on XM
were FCC friendly. Not 100% compliant, but pretty close. If you think
that having to have the freedom to say what you want when you want is
the sign of success, then you are right. And howard failed for 20+
years before he got to sirius. There is *NOTHING* that O&A cannot talk
about on a daily basis that stern, for example, can. The decision to
broadcast on both formats has taken nothing from the show. They
broadcast longer, get better guests, and still have the freedom to
discuss whatever they want on a daily basis.
SapperPest19
You are one of the people that must head dirty words to find something
entertaining. I am not. I have no problem with fucks and shits and
cunts but I do not have to hear those words to be entertained.
SapperPest19
Fuck, shit, pussy, cock, cunt. There, an uncensored reply. You should
be entertained now.
BaJoRi
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:07:44 GMT, "BaJoRi" <baj...@cbg.com> wrote:
>
>>"SapperPest19" <b...@bob.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> When I worked 2 hours away, my commute coincided with the old XM show.
>>> Now I work in the next city over and my commute is only 45-60 minutes
>>> depending on traffic. But listening to the entire show is not related
>>> to my objectiveness.
>>>
>>
>>You lie. Plain and simple. You are saying that the show is now better,
>>because of the self-censorship involved. That means that the XM show,
>>before
>>the move to terrestrial, was sub-standard as such censoring was not
>>indulged, and topics were short-shrifted.
>
> Fuck, shit, cunt, pussy, cock, nigger, bitch. Was that the most
> entertaining thing you have ever read? If so, then you are correct. It
> is the words that make the show entertaining or not. If you think it
> is the content, then listen up. Again. 80-90% of their shows on XM
> were FCC friendly.
That is just an out and out lie, as regards FCC friendliness. Even some O&A
fans have complained on this board that the show is different now. Be that
as it may, you have now admitted that O&A put on sub-standard shows for
their XM audience, as they are (in your words) much more interesting now
that you get to play a game to try and figure out what their subject of
discussion might be.
You are so busy trying to cover every avenue, to somehow show O&A to be more
than they are, that you leave yourself wide open for these neat little
insights. It's actually very humorous to watch you scramble to recover form
each and every mis-step.
Not 100% compliant, but pretty close. If you think
> that having to have the freedom to say what you want when you want is
> the sign of success, then you are right.
Actually, i didn't say that. I was just pointing out that you are saying the
show is better now, as you like playing the game where you are trying to
figure out what it is they are actually talking about. Most people don't
agree with that, but maybe that is personal preference. If the show ius
better now, as you claim, there really was nothing stoping them from doing
the same before the move to terrestrial, righ? But they didn't, which shows
that either it was a lackluster show then, or you are just trying to cover
their asses now. I go with the "cover asses" theory, because there is just
nothing you seem to like better than some good ole O&A ass.
And howard failed for 20+
> years before he got to sirius. There is *NOTHING* that O&A cannot talk
> about on a daily basis that stern, for example, can.
Very true. yet now they are prohobitied from discussing many items in-depth,
as you have admitted, due to FCC regulations. And, as you have also said,
this makes the show better because you enjoy trying to guess what they are
talking about. They should have been doing this for their entire XM run, if
it is so much better. Just goes to show they were putting on a sub-standard
show, in your opinion.
The decision to
> broadcast on both formats has taken nothing from the show.
You have admitted otherwise. They have lost the ability to speak freely on
many subjects. However, you enjoy this as it is a "game" to you, that you
enjoy plaing to figure out what it is they are actually speaking of.
They
> broadcast longer, get better guests, and still have the freedom to
> discuss whatever they want on a daily basis.
No. They do not, as you have admitted. The freedom is not there, otherwise
you wouldn't get to play your new favorite game of "guess the subject". You
can't have it both ways. Either something has been taken away, by the
censorship, or improved by it (as you tried to claim.), meaning that O&A
weren't doing as good a show, when they could talk freely about all issues
at any time.
SapperPest19
I only listen to O&A on XM. I do not nor did I ever say they do a
sub-standard show for the XM listeners. As a matter of fact, it is
better for the XM listeners than it is for the terrestrial listeners
as the XM listeners get to hear what gets dumped on terrestrial.
>You are so busy trying to cover every avenue, to somehow show O&A to be more
>than they are, that you leave yourself wide open for these neat little
>insights. It's actually very humorous to watch you scramble to recover form
>each and every mis-step.
You don't listen.
> Not 100% compliant, but pretty close. If you think
>> that having to have the freedom to say what you want when you want is
>> the sign of success, then you are right.
>
>Actually, i didn't say that. I was just pointing out that you are saying the
>show is better now, as you like playing the game where you are trying to
>figure out what it is they are actually talking about. Most people don't
>agree with that, but maybe that is personal preference. If the show ius
>better now, as you claim, there really was nothing stoping them from doing
>the same before the move to terrestrial, righ? But they didn't, which shows
>that either it was a lackluster show then, or you are just trying to cover
>their asses now. I go with the "cover asses" theory, because there is just
>nothing you seem to like better than some good ole O&A ass.
It wasn't lackluster back then. It is better now.
>And howard failed for 20+
>> years before he got to sirius. There is *NOTHING* that O&A cannot talk
>> about on a daily basis that stern, for example, can.
>
>Very true. yet now they are prohobitied from discussing many items in-depth,
>as you have admitted, due to FCC regulations.
During certain hours. But they can bring them back up at a different
point in the show if the bit calls for it.
>And, as you have also said,
>this makes the show better because you enjoy trying to guess what they are
>talking about. They should have been doing this for their entire XM run, if
>it is so much better. Just goes to show they were putting on a sub-standard
>show, in your opinion.
I never said anything about trying to guess what they are talking
about.
>The decision to
>> broadcast on both formats has taken nothing from the show.
>
>You have admitted otherwise. They have lost the ability to speak freely on
>many subjects.
No they have not.
>However, you enjoy this as it is a "game" to you, that you
>enjoy plaing to figure out what it is they are actually speaking of.
I never said that.
>They
>> broadcast longer, get better guests, and still have the freedom to
>> discuss whatever they want on a daily basis.
>
>
>No. They do not, as you have admitted. The freedom is not there, otherwise
>you wouldn't get to play your new favorite game of "guess the subject". You
>can't have it both ways. Either something has been taken away, by the
>censorship, or improved by it (as you tried to claim.), meaning that O&A
>weren't doing as good a show, when they could talk freely about all issues
>at any time.
Name a subject that O&A cannot talk about. And feel free to show
everyone where I said "guess the subject" was part of the show. You
are creating concepts, attributing them to me, then using them to
prove your point. I's not working.
BaJoRi
Would you not say that getting a dump affects the quality of the show? Would
you not say that working to avoid a dump affects the qualoity of the show?
If so, you are the only one because there have been several O&A fans on this
board who disagree with you.
>
>>You are so busy trying to cover every avenue, to somehow show O&A to be
>>more
>>than they are, that you leave yourself wide open for these neat little
>>insights. It's actually very humorous to watch you scramble to recover
>>form
>>each and every mis-step.
>
> You don't listen.
>
>> Not 100% compliant, but pretty close. If you think
>>> that having to have the freedom to say what you want when you want is
>>> the sign of success, then you are right.
>>
>>Actually, i didn't say that. I was just pointing out that you are saying
>>the
>>show is better now, as you like playing the game where you are trying to
>>figure out what it is they are actually talking about. Most people don't
>>agree with that, but maybe that is personal preference. If the show ius
>>better now, as you claim, there really was nothing stoping them from doing
>>the same before the move to terrestrial, righ? But they didn't, which
>>shows
>>that either it was a lackluster show then, or you are just trying to cover
>>their asses now. I go with the "cover asses" theory, because there is just
>>nothing you seem to like better than some good ole O&A ass.
>
> It wasn't lackluster back then. It is better now.
If it is better now that they have to avoid censors and dumps, why did they
not do so even befor ethe move back to terrestrial? They certainly had the
ability. According to your logic that means they refused to do somthing for
the show that would, in your opinion, have made it better when it was easily
within their power which means they neglected to put on the best show
possible: substandard.
>
>>And howard failed for 20+
>>> years before he got to sirius. There is *NOTHING* that O&A cannot talk
>>> about on a daily basis that stern, for example, can.
>>
>>Very true. yet now they are prohobitied from discussing many items
>>in-depth,
>>as you have admitted, due to FCC regulations.
>
> During certain hours. But they can bring them back up at a different
> point in the show if the bit calls for it.
>
>>And, as you have also said,
>>this makes the show better because you enjoy trying to guess what they are
>>talking about. They should have been doing this for their entire XM run,
>>if
>>it is so much better. Just goes to show they were putting on a
>>sub-standard
>>show, in your opinion.
>
> I never said anything about trying to guess what they are talking
> about.
>
>>The decision to
>>> broadcast on both formats has taken nothing from the show.
>>
>>You have admitted otherwise. They have lost the ability to speak freely on
>>many subjects.
>
> No they have not.
You have admitted they are being censored and dumped, and do self-censorship
on many items. Tjat is lack of freedom. Live with it.
>
>>However, you enjoy this as it is a "game" to you, that you
>>enjoy plaing to figure out what it is they are actually speaking of.
>
> I never said that.
Yes, you did.
>
>>They
>>> broadcast longer, get better guests, and still have the freedom to
>>> discuss whatever they want on a daily basis.
>>
>>
>>No. They do not, as you have admitted. The freedom is not there, otherwise
>>you wouldn't get to play your new favorite game of "guess the subject".
>>You
>>can't have it both ways. Either something has been taken away, by the
>>censorship, or improved by it (as you tried to claim.), meaning that O&A
>>weren't doing as good a show, when they could talk freely about all issues
>>at any time.
>
> Name a subject that O&A cannot talk about. And feel free to show
> everyone where I said "guess the subject" was part of the show. You
> are creating concepts, attributing them to me, then using them to
> prove your point. I's not working.
No. I am taking points you have made, that the show is better now that they
are being dumped and censored, and pointing out the foolishness of that
position.
SapperPest19
It does affect the quality. It makes it more entertaining.
>Would you not say that working to avoid a dump affects
>the qualoity of the show?
It does affect the quality. It makes it more entertaining.
It's called pushing the envelope. That is entertaining. If I could
only listen to the show on terrestrial, I might feel different. But I
listen to the show on XM so I can only speak about the show from that
aspect.
>If so, you are the only one because there have been several O&A fans on this
>board who disagree with you.
Not all of O&A fans feel that their move makes the show better. Not
all stern fans feel his move to sirius has improved his show.
Wow...your failing attempt at spin is incredible. Let's imagine you
have two kids who are in school. They are twins so they are in the
same grade and take the same classes. One kid brings you his report
card with all B's. Are you proud of him? What if the other kids gets
all A's? You are stuck in this mindset that if "A" is better than "B",
then "B" is substandard.
Which is better? The stern show now or the stern show on CBS radio?
>>>And howard failed for 20+
>>>> years before he got to sirius. There is *NOTHING* that O&A cannot talk
>>>> about on a daily basis that stern, for example, can.
>>>
>>>Very true. yet now they are prohobitied from discussing many items
>>>in-depth,
>>>as you have admitted, due to FCC regulations.
>>
>> During certain hours. But they can bring them back up at a different
>> point in the show if the bit calls for it.
>>
>>>And, as you have also said,
>>>this makes the show better because you enjoy trying to guess what they are
>>>talking about. They should have been doing this for their entire XM run,
>>>if
>>>it is so much better. Just goes to show they were putting on a
>>>sub-standard
>>>show, in your opinion.
>>
>> I never said anything about trying to guess what they are talking
>> about.
>>
>>>The decision to
>>>> broadcast on both formats has taken nothing from the show.
>>>
>>>You have admitted otherwise. They have lost the ability to speak freely on
>>>many subjects.
>>
>> No they have not.
>
>You have admitted they are being censored and dumped, and do self-censorship
>on many items. Tjat is lack of freedom. Live with it.
Name a subject they are not allowed to talk about.
>>>However, you enjoy this as it is a "game" to you, that you
>>>enjoy plaing to figure out what it is they are actually speaking of.
>>
>> I never said that.
>
>Yes, you did.
>
>>
>>>They
>>>> broadcast longer, get better guests, and still have the freedom to
>>>> discuss whatever they want on a daily basis.
>>>
>>>
>>>No. They do not, as you have admitted. The freedom is not there, otherwise
>>>you wouldn't get to play your new favorite game of "guess the subject".
>>>You
>>>can't have it both ways. Either something has been taken away, by the
>>>censorship, or improved by it (as you tried to claim.), meaning that O&A
>>>weren't doing as good a show, when they could talk freely about all issues
>>>at any time.
>>
>> Name a subject that O&A cannot talk about. And feel free to show
>> everyone where I said "guess the subject" was part of the show. You
>> are creating concepts, attributing them to me, then using them to
>> prove your point. I's not working.
>
>No. I am taking points you have made, that the show is better now that they
>are being dumped and censored, and pointing out the foolishness of that
>position.
Show me where I said anything about guessing what O&A are talking
about.
Name a subject that O&A are not allowed to talk about.
BaJoRi
I now have the means to generate all the clean power the world ever needs.
All I need to do is wrap you in copper wire, sit you on top of a magnet, and
when you go into your little spin routine it will generate electricity. You
have admitted that O&A are censored, been dumped, etc., and they are not
able to be as in-depth as they once were on certain subjects. You even
claimed that this was good for you, as you liked the show better this way as
you found enjoyment in their having them dodge the censors, to see how they
did it. Anything to justify the fact that they have had to water the show
down for the terrestrial audience.
Tim Donohoe
So you agree with me
Tim Donohoe
It is different enough for me to notice.
Schwoogie Johnson
What show did you listen to? If it really was "constant over the top sex
talk in the most graphic terms", I'd have been long gone. That's not
sustainably funny.
Schwoogie Johnson
>You are creating concepts, attributing them to me, then using them to
>prove your point. I's not working.
That's what they do. Straw man attacks are the slings and arrows of the
zombie arsenal.
SapperPest19
wrote:
>If that were true, probably not. But it's not.
Ok...let's keep track....how many new shows has he done so far this
month?
--
"Stern said it. Good enough for me." - JMiller
SapperPest19
I said the O&A show feed going out over terrestrial radio is being
censored when it gets dumped. I never said they cannot be as in-depth
as they once were on certain subjects.
Once again, for the third time, name a subject that O&A are not
allowed to talk about.
SapperPest19
wrote:
>What a great description. You should write copy for insomniacs. My
>eyelids started getting heavy around line 4.
Sorry. Let me make it more entertaining for you and all the stern
fans. I listen to 45-60 minutes of live show a day. Fuck, shit, cunt,
cock, pussy. Depending on when I leave determines what part of the
show I listen to live. Fuck, shit, cunt, cock, pussy. I download the
show to my ipod while at work so I end up listening to the entire
show. Fuck, shit, cunt, cock, pussy. Before their revolutionary
satellite/terrestrial deal, O&A would do a show that was 80-90% FCC
friendly. Fuck, shit, cunt, cock, pussy. Not 100% compliant but close
to it. So no, I don't think it affects the quality of the show. Fuck,
shit, cunt, cock, pussy. It may even add to the show. Fuck, shit,
cunt, cock, pussy. It's like a game to try to explain some thing while
they are being broadcast on terrestrial. Fuck, shit, cunt, cock,
pussy. I find that entertaining. Fuck, shit, cunt, cock, pussy. There
are item that can wait until they are not being broadcast on
terrestrial but some of them would be boring only on satellite. Fuck,
shit, cunt, cock, pussy. For example, a guy who had a penis implant to
help him get hard. He was suing the manufacturer of the device because
the device was defective for 10 years. Fuck, shit, cunt, cock, pussy.
On only satellite, they would have mentioned the article, made a few
jokes, and moved on. Fuck, shit, cunt, cock, pussy. But since it was
mentioned by a caller on terrestrial radio, they talked about it.
Fuck, shit, cunt, cock, pussy. To hear O&A dancing around the wording
was entertaining.
BaJoRi
That is true. it is ME saying they cnnot be as in-depth as they once were,
and you have agreed just by the fact that you acknowledge the censorship.
Although it is true that they may revisit a subject later in the day, when
they don't have to worry about FCC regs, there is a large chunk of show
where they are restrained from being 100% forthright with the listeners.
By the way, i see nothing wrong with that on their end, as they would have
been fucking crazy to pass up the opportunity that has been handed them. But
to try and claim that the show is unaffected by censorship is just a lie.
>
> Once again, for the third time, name a subject that O&A are not
> allowed to talk about.
You have admitted yourself that they have done a great deal of censorship,
not being able to plumb the depths of certain subjects.
Don't try to be so disingenuous. You aren't very good at it.
BaJoRi
See. Now you have completely contradicted yourself. Your first rendition of
that paragraph, without the cussing, was boring. This second rendition was
hilarious, as it was a smart usage of curse words. Through censorship, O&A
have lost some of that ability for several hours in the day. Through your
own actions you have proven how censorship can have a negative impact on
broadcasters, including O&A.
SapperPest19
wrote:
>Oh, fucking spare me.
I can easily go to marksfriggin and look for myself. I'll guess about
3 so far.
SapperPest19
wrote:
>Oh come on! Are you trying to tell me that they say whatever they
>want on Free-FM and they just dump it? Get real. Nobody believes
>that.
>
>>Once again, for the third time, name a subject that O&A are not
>>allowed to talk about.
>
>Sex in a cathedral?
They talked about that yesterday.
SapperPest19
There has always been a large chunk of show that was appropriate for
terrestrial radio. Just because they broadcast that chunk on
terrestrial radio does not make them less than 100% forthright with
the listeners.
>By the way, i see nothing wrong with that on their end, as they would have
>been fucking crazy to pass up the opportunity that has been handed them. But
>to try and claim that the show is unaffected by censorship is just a lie.
>
>
>
>>
>> Once again, for the third time, name a subject that O&A are not
>> allowed to talk about.
>
>You have admitted yourself that they have done a great deal of censorship,
>not being able to plumb the depths of certain subjects.
>
>Don't try to be so disingenuous. You aren't very good at it.
You claim that they are censored. Now name a subject they are not
allowed to talk about.
SapperPest19
If you honestly feel that adding dirty words automatically makes a
conversation entertaining without considering the content of the
conversation itself, then you have truly bought into the stern
mentality.
--
Tony Elka
SapperPest19 <b...@bob.com> wrote:
> You claim that they are censored. Now name a subject they are not
> allowed to talk about.
Felching.
Tony
SapperPest19
wrote:
>Whatever. A couple months ago it was "Howard's taking the whole month
>of August off." Now it's "He's only doing 8 shows in August." It's a
>bunch of bullshit.
I've never said he was taking the entire month off.
>Who cares?
Judging by how defensive you are getting, I'll guess.....you.
>He negotiated a great deal. Next
>month he'll probably do 15-20 shows. The only ones who seem to have a
>problem with it are the pests.
Nope, you seem to be having the problem here.
SapperPest19
wrote:
>I stand corrected...wow, they really are cutting edge.
>
>OK, let's see...can they talk about:
>
>Snowballing
Yes
>Creampies
Yes
>Cock-gagging
Yes
>Ass-to-mouth porno
Yes
>Bands with names like Revolting Cocks or Nashville Pussy
Yes
SapperPest19
O&A are allowed to talk about felching.
SapperPest19
wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:24:54 -0500, SapperPest19 <b...@bob.com> wrote:
>
>>>See. Now you have completely contradicted yourself. Your first rendition of
>>>that paragraph, without the cussing, was boring. This second rendition was
>>>hilarious, as it was a smart usage of curse words. Through censorship, O&A
>>>have lost some of that ability for several hours in the day. Through your
>>>own actions you have proven how censorship can have a negative impact on
>>>broadcasters, including O&A.
>>
>>If you honestly feel that adding dirty words automatically makes a
>>conversation entertaining without considering the content of the
>>conversation itself, then you have truly bought into the stern
>>mentality.
>
>Don't flatter yourself. You are nowhere near the intelligence level
>of Stern's show. All you succeeded by adding "fuck, shit, piss, cunt"
>is make a hideously boring paragraph semi-readable.
You are aware that you are agreeing with me, right?
Tim Donohoe
Especially the clone show zombies. They are as bad as scientologists.
Tony Elka
SapperPest19 <b...@bob.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:59:56 -0700, Tony Elka
> <shado...@shadowlane.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <fik7e21a1ho4senll...@4ax.com>,
> > SapperPest19 <b...@bob.com> wrote:
> >
> >> You claim that they are censored. Now name a subject they are not
> >> allowed to talk about.
> >
> >
> >
> >Felching.
> >
> >Tony
>
> O&A are allowed to talk about felching.
Felching refers to the act of sucking semen out of an anus (male or
female) after anal sex.
Suppose you tell me just how much O&A can discuss that topic without
running afoul of F.C.C. guidelines?
Tony
SapperPest19
wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:02:09 -0500, SapperPest19 <b...@bob.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>No, as a matter of fact, I think his shows are too long now. 5 hours
>>>>>>>>>is plenty. He's been doing a lot of 6 hour shows lately. See, I
>>>>>>>>>prefer quality over quantity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So as long as his 8 shows a month are quality shows then you are
>>>>>>>>satisfied?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If that were true, probably not. But it's not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ok...let's keep track....how many new shows has he done so far this
>>>>>>month?
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, fucking spare me.
>>>>
>>>>I can easily go to marksfriggin and look for myself. I'll guess about
>>>>3 so far.
>>>
>>>Whatever. A couple months ago it was "Howard's taking the whole month
>>>of August off." Now it's "He's only doing 8 shows in August." It's a
>>>bunch of bullshit.
>>
>>I've never said he was taking the entire month off.
>
>No, you just use a month he traditionally takes off as an example of
>the whole year. Come on, we're wise to the bullshit, dude.
Yeah, I planned for this conversation to take place this month. But
from what you said, you might not be satisfied this month.
>>>Who cares?
>>
>>Judging by how defensive you are getting, I'll guess.....you.
>
>You care a lot and you know it. If you didn't care, why did you ask?
Making a point.
>>>He negotiated a great deal. Next
>>>month he'll probably do 15-20 shows. The only ones who seem to have a
>>>problem with it are the pests.
>>
>>Nope, you seem to be having the problem here.
>
>I don't have a problem with it at all.
Yeah...sounds like it.
SapperPest19
wrote:
>Liar
>
>>>Creampies
>>
>>Yes
>
>Liar
>
>>>Cock-gagging
>>
>>Yes
>
>Liar
>
>>>Ass-to-mouth porno
>>
>>Yes
>
>Liar
>
>>>Bands with names like Revolting Cocks or Nashville Pussy
>>
>>Yes
>
>Liar
>
>O&A are not allowed to talk about any of that stuff on Free-FM.
But they are allowed to talk about those subjects on a daily basis.
SapperPest19
<shado...@shadowlane.com> wrote:
>In article <bkq7e2dvuj3brevr6...@4ax.com>,
> SapperPest19 <b...@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:59:56 -0700, Tony Elka
>> <shado...@shadowlane.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <fik7e21a1ho4senll...@4ax.com>,
>> > SapperPest19 <b...@bob.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> You claim that they are censored. Now name a subject they are not
>> >> allowed to talk about.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Felching.
>> >
>> >Tony
>>
>> O&A are allowed to talk about felching.
>
>
>
>Felching refers to the act of sucking semen out of an anus (male or
>female) after anal sex.
>
>Suppose you tell me just how much O&A can discuss that topic without
>running afoul of F.C.C. guidelines?
Because only part of their show must be close to FCC guidelines. But
they can talk about it on a daily basis.
SapperPest19
wrote:
>No.
I said that you seem to think that bad words make a conversation
entertaining and you said that dirty words made my boring conversation
more readable.
SapperPest19
wrote:
>Semi-readable, dude.
I'm sorry. Would the semi-readable version be more readable or less
readable than the original version?
Tim Donohoe
>
> on a daily basis.
More evidence of clone brainwashing.
KK
> KK wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:11:10 +0000, Tim Donohoe wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The XM is censored by virtue of the fact that there are certain things
>>>they can't do or talk about while broadcasting on FM, they have to
>>>censor themselves for their entire drivetime audience even if a few
>>>dumps get heard on XM they screwed up their show for the extra cash
>>
>>
>> The show's been great. Being on FM gets them better guests and more
>> publicity. Those things add to the show.
>
> So you agree with me
That the XM show suffers? No, I don't.
Tim Donohoe
Playing dumb?
KK
>>I said the O&A show feed going out over terrestrial radio is being
>>censored when it gets dumped. I never said they cannot be as in-depth
>>as they once were on certain subjects.
>
> Oh come on! Are you trying to tell me that they say whatever they
> want on Free-FM and they just dump it? Get real. Nobody believes
> that.
Umm, that's exactly what they do.
>
>>Once again, for the third time, name a subject that O&A are not
>>allowed to talk about.
>
> Sex in a cathedral?
They devoted quite a bit of time to that the other day, on its anniversary.
KK
> Don't flatter yourself. You are nowhere near the intelligence level
> of Stern's show.
Yes, it takes years of education to be able to appreciate the subtleties
of Captain Sack, and conversations about Richard Christy fellating Sal.
KK
I didn't say that - looks like you're the dumb one.
Tim Donohoe
Holy shit you are a zombie.
KK
WTF? You claimed I said something I didn't. Pointing that out makes me a
zombie?
Tim Donohoe
You are lying again.
KK
>>>>>>That the XM show suffers? No, I don't.
>>>>>
>>>>>Playing dumb?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The XM is censored by virtue of the fact that there are certain things
>>>>>>>>they can't do or talk about while broadcasting on FM, they have to
>>>>>>>>censor themselves for their entire drivetime audience even if a few
>>>>>>>>dumps get heard on XM they screwed up their show for the extra cash
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I didn't say that - looks like you're the dumb one.
>>>
>>>Holy shit you are a zombie.
>>
>>
>> WTF? You claimed I said something I didn't. Pointing that out makes me a
>> zombie?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> You are lying again.
Specifically about what? Man, you're a pedantic douche. I claimed not to
agree with you "that the XM show suffers". In response, you quoted part
of someone else's post with the claim that I'm "playing dumb".
I interpret that as your attributing that quote to me. Were you? If
you were not, I don't see how your post makes any sense.
Tim Donohoe
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:37:06 +0000, Tim Donohoe wrote:
>
>
>>>>>>>That the XM show suffers? No, I don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Playing dumb?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The XM is censored by virtue of the fact that there are certain things
>>>>>>>>>they can't do or talk about while broadcasting on FM, they have to
>>>>>>>>>censor themselves for their entire drivetime audience even if a few
>>>>>>>>>dumps get heard on XM they screwed up their show for the extra cash
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I didn't say that - looks like you're the dumb one.
>>>>
>>>>Holy shit you are a zombie.
>>>
>>>
>>>WTF? You claimed I said something I didn't. Pointing that out makes me a
>>>zombie?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>You are lying again.
>
>
>
> Specifically about what? Man, you're a pedantic douche. I claimed not to
> agree with you "that the XM show suffers".
I didn't say that, you are not agreeing with something that you made up
yourself (again)
In response, you quoted part
> of someone else's post with the claim that I'm "playing dumb".
>
I reposted what you were pretending to respond to, my post that you
ignored in favor of arguing against something you made up yourself. I
even left the thread intact attributing what I said to me so your
strawman would be more obvious.
> I interpret that as your attributing that quote to me. Were you? If
> you were not, I don't see how your post makes any sense.
Of course you don't, stupid.
KK
>>>You are lying again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Specifically about what? Man, you're a pedantic douche. I claimed not to
>> agree with you "that the XM show suffers".
>
> I didn't say that, you are not agreeing with something that you made up
> yourself (again)
Christ on a pole. Here's the relevant text:
------------------
>>>>>>>>The XM is censored by virtue of the fact that there are certain things
>>>>>>>>they can't do or talk about while broadcasting on FM, they have to
>>>>>>>>censor themselves for their entire drivetime audience even if a few
>>>>>>>>dumps get heard on XM they screwed up their show for the extra cash
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The show's been great. Being on FM gets them better guests and more
>>>>>>>publicity. Those things add to the show.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So you agree with me
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>That the XM show suffers? No, I don't.
------------------
If that wasn't what you vaguely claimed I "agree[d] with [you]" about,
right after that post was the place to state that.
> In response, you quoted part
>> of someone else's post with the claim that I'm "playing dumb".
>>
>
> I reposted what you were pretending to respond to, my post that you
> ignored in favor of arguing against something you made up yourself. I
> even left the thread intact attributing what I said to me so your
> strawman would be more obvious.
I continue to not agree with your post. The show is not "screwed up",
it's funnier than ever.
SapperPest19
wrote:
>SapperPest19 wrote:
>>
>> on a daily basis.
>
>More evidence of clone brainwashing.
Really now. What subject can not be talked about at some point during
their show?
Tim Donohoe
Insertion
Tim Donohoe
>>>>You are lying again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Specifically about what? Man, you're a pedantic douche. I claimed not to
>>>agree with you "that the XM show suffers".
>>
>>I didn't say that, you are not agreeing with something that you made up
>>yourself (again)
>
>
>
> Christ on a pole. Here's the relevant text:
>
> ------------------
>
>>>>>>>>>The XM is censored by virtue of the fact that there are certain things
>>>>>>>>>they can't do or talk about while broadcasting on FM, they have to
>>>>>>>>>censor themselves for their entire drivetime audience even if a few
>>>>>>>>>dumps get heard on XM they screwed up their show for the extra cash
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The show's been great. Being on FM gets them better guests and more
>>>>>>>>publicity. Those things add to the show.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So you agree with me
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That the XM show suffers? No, I don't.
>
> ------------------
>
>
> If that wasn't what you vaguely claimed I "agree[d] with [you]" about,
> right after that post was the place to state that.
>
I was joking you humorless lackwit, I was making fun of the fact that
you responded to something other than what I said because you didn't
have a response to what I actually said. I repeated it for you and your
OCD took over from there. I could probably keep you busy spinning and
arguing about nothing for a month but you really are a bore.
SapperPest19
wrote:
>SapperPest19 wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 06:00:56 GMT, Tim Donohoe <tdon...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>SapperPest19 wrote:
>>>
>>>> on a daily basis.
>>>
>>>More evidence of clone brainwashing.
>>
>>
>> Really now. What subject can not be talked about at some point during
>> their show?
>
>Insertion
Sure they can.
The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions
"Tony Elka" <shado...@shadowlane.com> wrote in message
news:shadowlane-D882C...@news.newsguy.com...
As much as they want- it would only get bleeped on the commercial feed
--
The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Commander, Usenet OperAtions
Stern Fan: You steal a lot of shit from Howard
Anthony: Yeah, like his radio stations
SapperPest19
wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:18:52 GMT, "The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr.
>Usenet OperAtions" <the_wi...@yahooY.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Tony Elka" <shado...@shadowlane.com> wrote in message
>>news:shadowlane-D882C...@news.newsguy.com...
>>> In article <bkq7e2dvuj3brevr6...@4ax.com>,
>>> SapperPest19 <b...@bob.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:59:56 -0700, Tony Elka
>>>> <shado...@shadowlane.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >In article <fik7e21a1ho4senll...@4ax.com>,
>>>> > SapperPest19 <b...@bob.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> You claim that they are censored. Now name a subject they are not
>>>> >> allowed to talk about.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Felching.
>>>> >
>>>> >Tony
>>>>
>>>> O&A are allowed to talk about felching.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Felching refers to the act of sucking semen out of an anus (male or
>>> female) after anal sex.
>>>
>>> Suppose you tell me just how much O&A can discuss that topic without
>>> running afoul of F.C.C. guidelines?
>>
>>As much as they want- it would only get bleeped on the commercial feed
>
>Lies. yes, it would get bleeped, but if it happened too much, they'd
>get in trouble and possibly fired.
But they could still talk about it for an hour a day without getting
into trouble.
whiteninja
wrote:
>On 16 Aug 2006 00:22:01 -0500, White Ninja wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 03:56:06 GMT, JMiller <in...@bigassbroadcast.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 15 Aug 2006 20:46:02 -0500, White Ninja wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> So what was all of the brouhaha with the brass after the incident? Why
>>>>>> did the fan claim Ben took the first swing and why did Ben (and all
>>>>>> references to him) disappear right after the incident? Is this not the
>>>>>> very way the boys have pointed out station's handle troubling
>>>>>> incidents? If Ben's departure was not because of this, why not say why
>>>>>> he did depart?
>>>>>> I don't blame Ant for minimizing it because of all the legal issues
>>>>>> but, come on, how about a little reality?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Because the sad thing is that "the boys" are not very truthful about
>>>>>what really goes on with their show. When you put yourself out there in
>>>>>the past with statements like "we are so glad to be on satellite radio
>>>>>and to have the freedom to say anything we like. We would never go back
>>>>>to regular radio and the censorship." Then they go back to regular
>>>>>radio because the money was right and they never address their past
>>>>>statements. That in of itself is dishonest. AND to top it all off, the
>>>>>CBS show is nowhere near as funny as the old XM show was. That's a
>>>>>natural fact.
>>>>>
>>>>Bullshit - the show is better than ever, drone.
>>>
>>>Of course it is! Being censored always improves everything.
>>
>>As you have been told MANY times, (I'll type slowly so you can follow
>>along this time, hopefully), the XM feed is NEVER censored, and we get
>>more show than before. I'm sure you would consider it an improvement
>>to get more of your show, say if Hoohoo only took off 8 weeks, instead
>>of 12, or if he worked on Fridays.
>
>No, as a matter of fact, I think his shows are too long now. 5 hours
>is plenty. He's been doing a lot of 6 hour shows lately. See, I
>prefer quality over quantity. That's why my show is only an hour.
That's because you are too cheap to keep N-More supplied with enough
bananas to last more than an hour.
More importantly, I did not refer to the length of the shows, but
rather how few of them you actually get. Again, in true zombie
fashion, you dodge the issue.
whiteninja
>
><White Ninja> wrote in message
>news:8ja5e2laebusdhd1j...@4ax.com...
>You are being disingenuous. You can't with a straight face try and claim
>that O&A do not adjust their style for the hours in which there is a
>terrestrial feed, in order to be FCC Compliant. I don't listen to the show,
>so you will have to answer this, but have there been times when O&A have put
>aside an item for alter in the day because they couldn't talk about it the
>way they wanted to because of the terrestrial feed? Would you not say that
>affects the quality of the show, not being able to talk about certain items
>at any time?
>
It still gets talked about, and I am more than happy with the quality
of the show. And the fact is, O+A can do entertaining radio within
FCC guidelines, and hoohoo was unable to do so. During the ten years
of sub-par radio that stern himself admitted he did, O+A were building
a name for themselves and rising fast before the Sex for Sam incident,
which was, for the record, not outside of FCC guidelines at the time.
The show has ony gotten better lately, and they are succeeding
accordingly. And they still have more listeners than stern, and the
gap is growing and growing.
whiteninja
>
>"SapperPest19" <b...@bob.com> wrote in message
>news:sgj6e2dgrc5lbio9l...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:07:44 GMT, "BaJoRi" <baj...@cbg.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"SapperPest19" <b...@bob.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> When I worked 2 hours away, my commute coincided with the old XM show.
>>>> Now I work in the next city over and my commute is only 45-60 minutes
>>>> depending on traffic. But listening to the entire show is not related
>>>> to my objectiveness.
>>>>
>>>
>>>You lie. Plain and simple. You are saying that the show is now better,
>>>because of the self-censorship involved. That means that the XM show,
>>>before
>>>the move to terrestrial, was sub-standard as such censoring was not
>>>indulged, and topics were short-shrifted.
>>
>> Fuck, shit, cunt, pussy, cock, nigger, bitch. Was that the most
>> entertaining thing you have ever read? If so, then you are correct. It
>> is the words that make the show entertaining or not. If you think it
>> is the content, then listen up. Again. 80-90% of their shows on XM
>> were FCC friendly.
>
>That is just an out and out lie, as regards FCC friendliness. Even some O&A
>fans have complained on this board that the show is different now. Be that
>as it may, you have now admitted that O&A put on sub-standard shows for
>their XM audience, as they are (in your words) much more interesting now
>that you get to play a game to try and figure out what their subject of
>discussion might be.
Name one actual O+A fan (not a stern faggot) that has complained about
the show, after the first couple of weeks. Any change is always met
with a few complaints, until people get used to the change.
>
>
>You are so busy trying to cover every avenue, to somehow show O&A to be more
>than they are, that you leave yourself wide open for these neat little
>insights. It's actually very humorous to watch you scramble to recover form
>each and every mis-step.
>
>
> Not 100% compliant, but pretty close. If you think
>> that having to have the freedom to say what you want when you want is
>> the sign of success, then you are right.
>
>Actually, i didn't say that. I was just pointing out that you are saying the
>show is better now, as you like playing the game where you are trying to
>figure out what it is they are actually talking about. Most people don't
>agree with that, but maybe that is personal preference. If the show ius
>better now, as you claim, there really was nothing stoping them from doing
>the same before the move to terrestrial, righ? But they didn't, which shows
>that either it was a lackluster show then, or you are just trying to cover
>their asses now. I go with the "cover asses" theory, because there is just
>nothing you seem to like better than some good ole O&A ass.
>
>And howard failed for 20+
>> years before he got to sirius. There is *NOTHING* that O&A cannot talk
>> about on a daily basis that stern, for example, can.
>
>Very true. yet now they are prohobitied from discussing many items in-depth,
>as you have admitted, due to FCC regulations. And, as you have also said,
>this makes the show better because you enjoy trying to guess what they are
>talking about. They should have been doing this for their entire XM run, if
>it is so much better. Just goes to show they were putting on a sub-standard
>show, in your opinion.
>
>
>
>The decision to
>> broadcast on both formats has taken nothing from the show.
>
>You have admitted otherwise. They have lost the ability to speak freely on
>many subjects. However, you enjoy this as it is a "game" to you, that you
>enjoy plaing to figure out what it is they are actually speaking of.
>
>They
>> broadcast longer, get better guests, and still have the freedom to
>> discuss whatever they want on a daily basis.
>
>
>No. They do not, as you have admitted. The freedom is not there, otherwise
>you wouldn't get to play your new favorite game of "guess the subject". You
>can't have it both ways. Either something has been taken away, by the
>censorship, or improved by it (as you tried to claim.), meaning that O&A
>weren't doing as good a show, when they could talk freely about all issues
>at any time.
>
Schwoogie Johnson
>On 17 Aug 2006 22:57:01 -0500, White Ninja wrote:
>
>>It still gets talked about, and I am more than happy with the quality
>>of the show. And the fact is, O+A can do entertaining radio within
>>FCC guidelines, and hoohoo was unable to do so.
>
>Is that why he lasted over three years after the big crackdown with
>record ratings? Come on, stupid. Nobody believes you.
"Record ratings"? Yeah, record lows for him. Come on, stupid. Nobody
believes you.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/20/93311.shtml
Thursday, Oct. 20, 2005
When it comes to shock jock radio ratings, Howard Stern is still number
one, but with an anchor.
Recent Arbitron ratings show Stern’s nationally syndicated morning program
remains popular, but it is rapidly losing audience in key media markets,
such as New York City and Washington, D.C.
As reported by The Washington Post, Stern’s audience share in Washington,
D.C., where he is broadcast on WJFK-FM, fell by nearly one-third among the
lucrative 25- to 54-year-old demographic during the July-September ratings
period.
Stern has been "bleeding audience” in New York City during the same time
period, where he lost 15 percent of his listeners.
>>During the ten years
>>of sub-par radio that stern himself admitted he did, O+A were building
>>a name for themselves and rising fast before the Sex for Sam incident,
>>which was, for the record, not outside of FCC guidelines at the time.
>
>No, it just got them fired. That's all.
>
>>The show has ony gotten better lately, and they are succeeding
>>accordingly. And they still have more listeners than stern, and the
>>gap is growing and growing.
>
>That's it. Drink the poison.
All the while, you're drunk on Stern cum.
KK
> On 17 Aug 2006 22:57:01 -0500, White Ninja wrote:
>
>>It still gets talked about, and I am more than happy with the quality
>>of the show. And the fact is, O+A can do entertaining radio within
>>FCC guidelines, and hoohoo was unable to do so.
>
> Is that why he lasted over three years after the big crackdown with
> record ratings? Come on, stupid. Nobody believes you.
His ratings and audience declined steadily over those last three years.
>
>>During the ten years
>>of sub-par radio that stern himself admitted he did, O+A were building
>>a name for themselves and rising fast before the Sex for Sam incident,
>>which was, for the record, not outside of FCC guidelines at the time.
>
> No, it just got them fired. That's all.
Non sequitur. It was not an FCC violation.
>>The show has ony gotten better lately, and they are succeeding
>>accordingly. And they still have more listeners than stern, and the
>>gap is growing and growing.
>
> That's it. Drink the poison.
*You're* making a cult reference, with your infantile worship and
acceptance of anything Stern does? That's rich.
The Cunning Linguist :Ş- Cmdr. Usenet OperAtions
"KK" <_K...@furburger.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.08.18....@furburger.net...
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:12:21 +0000, JMiller wrote:
>
>> On 17 Aug 2006 22:57:01 -0500, White Ninja wrote:
>>>During the ten years
>>>of sub-par radio that stern himself admitted he did, O+A were building
>>>a name for themselves and rising fast before the Sex for Sam incident,
>>>which was, for the record, not outside of FCC guidelines at the time.
>>
>> No, it just got them fired. That's all.
>
>
> Non sequitur. It was not an FCC violation.
>
And it did not get them fired. Infinity continued to pay them for two years