I will begin with an explanation of who Carlos Castaneda
was, and what he accomplished.
As part of his philosophy, he made considerable efforts
to conceal his identity, so I will summarize what is
known of his public life and achievements.
He was a graduate student entering the UCLA
Anthropology Department in the late 1950s.
He decided to preemptively write a PhD thesis
on the subject of the use of psychotropic plants
by the indians of the American southwest.
In the process of his field work, he had the fortune
to meet a man he called "Juan Matus" (a psuedonym
roughly akin to "John Smith"), a 'brujo' or sorcerer
from an at the time unspecified but ancient tradition.
By 1967, when he published his thesis (which became
a national bestseller), he had evolved into an
apprentice "warrior", as he now called himself,
renouncing the western academic tradition in favor
of what he believed was a superior way of life.
Besides the controversial subject matter, his book
also proved to be a profound and damning critique
of the study of Anthropology, creating a schism
which still exists today. A good comparison would
be the schism between Newtonian and Quantum physics.
He called into question the very axioms on which
both eastern and western philosophies are based,
proposing a third view of reality, whose roots were
based on an almost extinct central American culture
of perhaps 3500 years ago. And not a primitive
culture by any means.
He also asserted that modern men are so capable of
ignoring reality that only through an arduous process
would they be able to even perceive the possibilities
available to them. He maintained that only a few
people are able or willing do so.
His books (which should be read only in chronological
order), have consistently been bestsellers, but few
reviewers have ventured to discuss their content,
favoring speculations about the author. They are not
a difficult read.
Eventually, however, a divergence took place between
Castaneda and his teacher; Castaneda being recognized
as of a parallel but different lineage or tradition.
From that point on, he was forced to continue as best
he could on a different path.
His partner, or female equivalent, in this endeavor
was a woman named Carol Tiggs. His other two associates
were Florinda Donner, who has also written three books,
and Taisha Abelar, who has written one.
Again, part of his philosophy was the intentional
obscuration of his biographical life, so it was with
no small amusement that the announcement of his death
was received in April of last year. It was so contrived
as to be laughable, for those familiar with his philosophy.
But it was wholeheartedly embraced by the media. He
has, however, disappeared, and it is assumed that he
now lives in Mexico.
I would encourage anyone to attempt to read his books;
however, there are two cautions: first, that you will
either love them or hate them; and second, that they
contain events and implications that are terrifying,
so should be read in a slow and guarded manner.
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> Carlos Castaneda
>
>
> I will begin with an explanation of who Carlos Castaneda
> was, and what he accomplished.
>
> As part of his philosophy, he made considerable efforts
> to conceal his identity, so I will summarize what is
> known of his public life and achievements.
>
> He was a graduate student entering the UCLA
> Anthropology Department in the late 1950s.
> He decided to preemptively write a PhD thesis
> on the subject of the use of psychotropic plants
> by the indians of the American southwest.
>
> In the process of his field work, he had the fortune
> to meet a man he called "Juan Matus" (a psuedonym
> roughly akin to "John Smith"), a 'brujo' or sorcerer
> from an at the time unspecified but ancient tradition.
>
> By 1967, when he published his thesis (which became
> a national bestseller), he had evolved into an
> apprentice "warrior", as he now called himself,
> renouncing the western academic tradition in favor
> of what he believed was a superior way of life.
Yes, but after the first book, he revealed that the psycoactive plants were
only one stimulus (and a very harmful one) to attain a different insight or
"Separate Reality."
>
> Besides the controversial subject matter, his book
> also proved to be a profound and damning critique
> of the study of Anthropology, creating a schism
> which still exists today. A good comparison would
> be the schism between Newtonian and Quantum physics.
>
> He called into question the very axioms on which
> both eastern and western philosophies are based,
> proposing a third view of reality, whose roots were
> based on an almost extinct central American culture
> of perhaps 3500 years ago. And not a primitive
> culture by any means.
>
> He also asserted that modern men are so capable of
> ignoring reality that only through an arduous process
> would they be able to even perceive the possibilities
> available to them. He maintained that only a few
> people are able or willing do so.
>
> His books (which should be read only in chronological
> order),
I agree, the works must be consumed in order to even attempt understand his
experiences.
> have consistently been bestsellers, but few
> reviewers have ventured to discuss their content,
> favoring speculations about the author.
Of course. A literature critic for the LA Times is probably not going to
comment on "corn magic" or the "dreaming being."
> They are not
> a difficult read.
>
> Eventually, however, a divergence took place between
> Castaneda and his teacher; Castaneda being recognized
> as of a parallel but different lineage or tradition.
> From that point on, he was forced to continue as best
> he could on a different path.
>
> His partner, or female equivalent, in this endeavor
> was a woman named Carol Tiggs. His other two associates
> were Florinda Donner, who has also written three books,
> and Taisha Abelar, who has written one.
>
> Again, part of his philosophy was the intentional
> obscuration of his biographical life,
Yes, what does it matter the year on one's birth certificate when walking as
a giant upon the desert?
> so it was with
> no small amusement that the announcement of his death
> was received in April of last year. It was so contrived
> as to be laughable, for those familiar with his philosophy.
> But it was wholeheartedly embraced by the media. He
> has, however, disappeared, and it is assumed that he
> now lives in Mexico.
>
> I would encourage anyone to attempt to read his books;
> however, there are two cautions: first, that you will
> either love them or hate them; and second, that they
> contain events and implications that are terrifying,
> so should be read in a slow and guarded manner.
Yes, but if you have ever (say on a ship, outside the 2mile US territorial
limit) experienced a hallucinogenic drug, you can probably relate to many
tenets of the philosophy, such as the shadows cas by objects and beings are
also significant. Or that one can communicate with animals.
My original question is still unanswered-was the philosophy referred to that
of Castaneda or Matus?
Thanks,
Elton
> --------
*That is more common than you might imagine. When his path
*diverged from that of his teacher, he became very strange. A
*friend described the energy of his new group as feeling inhuman,
*almost "synthetic", and I felt the same. Still exceptionally
*powerful, though. I doubt they could have continued with their
*bizarre interaction with ordinary people.
>
> > Carlos Castaneda
> >
> >
> > I will begin with an explanation of who Carlos Castaneda
> > was, and what he accomplished.
> >
> > As part of his philosophy, he made considerable efforts
> > to conceal his identity, so I will summarize what is
> > known of his public life and achievements.
> >
> > He was a graduate student entering the UCLA
> > Anthropology Department in the late 1950s.
> > He decided to preemptively write a PhD thesis
> > on the subject of the use of psychotropic plants
> > by the indians of the American southwest.
> >
> > In the process of his field work, he had the fortune
> > to meet a man he called "Juan Matus" (a psuedonym
> > roughly akin to "John Smith"), a 'brujo' or sorcerer
> > from an at the time unspecified but ancient tradition.
> >
> > By 1967, when he published his thesis (which became
> > a national bestseller), he had evolved into an
> > apprentice "warrior", as he now called himself,
> > renouncing the western academic tradition in favor
> > of what he believed was a superior way of life.
>
> Yes, but after the first book, he revealed that the psycoactive plants were
> only one stimulus (and a very harmful one) to attain a different insight or
> "Separate Reality."
*And it was a stimulus used for Castaneda initially because his teacher
*felt him to be 'stopped up' or 'blocked' by his excessive rationality,
*but which turned out to be because of his odd energetic configuration.
*I think it transcends this. The critique, "The Don Juan Papers", by
*Richard De Mille, stands alone as a (laughable) skeptical analysis of
*his writings. De Mille's hilarious over-analysis of minutiae comes
*across as a desperate attempt to disprove Castaneda, by studying the
*bark on a tree instead of seeing the forest, as it were.
*Other writers experience the phenomenon of writers' block, while trying
*to express Castaneda's ideas. Strangely enough, while the concepts
*might be clear in your mind, conveying them to others is a very taxing
*and frustrating experience.
>
> > They are not
> > a difficult read.
> >
> > Eventually, however, a divergence took place between
> > Castaneda and his teacher; Castaneda being recognized
> > as of a parallel but different lineage or tradition.
> > From that point on, he was forced to continue as best
> > he could on a different path.
> >
> > His partner, or female equivalent, in this endeavor
> > was a woman named Carol Tiggs. His other two associates
> > were Florinda Donner, who has also written three books,
> > and Taisha Abelar, who has written one.
> >
> > Again, part of his philosophy was the intentional
> > obscuration of his biographical life,
>
> Yes, what does it matter the year on one's birth certificate when walking as
> a giant upon the desert?
*It is a critical point that the very "thoughts of our fellow man" may
*inhibit our reaching transcendant goals. Anonymity bestows flexibility.
>
> > so it was with
> > no small amusement that the announcement of his death
> > was received in April of last year. It was so contrived
> > as to be laughable, for those familiar with his philosophy.
> > But it was wholeheartedly embraced by the media. He
> > has, however, disappeared, and it is assumed that he
> > now lives in Mexico.
> >
> > I would encourage anyone to attempt to read his books;
> > however, there are two cautions: first, that you will
> > either love them or hate them; and second, that they
> > contain events and implications that are terrifying,
> > so should be read in a slow and guarded manner.
>
> Yes, but if you have ever (say on a ship, outside the 2mile US territorial
> limit) experienced a hallucinogenic drug, you can probably relate to many
> tenets of the philosophy, such as the shadows cas by objects and beings are
> also significant. Or that one can communicate with animals.
>
> My original question is still unanswered-was the philosophy referred to that
> of Castaneda or Matus?
>
*Both. One of the eerie aspects of his work is trying to determine at
*what point the teachings of Matus' path ends, and those of Castanedas'
*begin. As I suggested before, after "The Eagle's Gift", his writings
*take on a new direction, while still discussing the old. His "Tensegrity"
*project I would regard as completely in his own tradition, though he and
*his people insist otherwise.