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Hugh Elm

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Jun 10, 1994, 1:25:32 PM6/10/94
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I have often wondered how German people react to the episode in Fawlty
Towers when the German tourists arrive. You may recall, Basil (Cleese)
gets a bump on the head and goes into some hysterics while goose stepping
about. Similarly, in Python there is the sketch where Cleese, Palin, and
Chapman play Mr. Hilter, Mr. Bimmler, and Von....(sorry, I don't
know..AAAHHHHH).

Anyway, do Germans view this type of portrayal with humour, or does being
reminded about this part of history cause some other 'pangs' ?

Just wondering

Lutz Kämpfer

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Jun 12, 1994, 1:08:00 PM6/12/94
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he...@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca meinte am 10.06.94
zum Thema "Don't Mention the War....":

I don't know these jokes.

Post the jokes and i'll tell you what i think.

(I didn't spoke or wrote english for many years -please!- simple english)

p.s.: Fals jemand im deutschen Netz die Szenen zuerst liest und etwas
Zeit hat, hat derjenige auch die Zeit sie zu übersetzen???

--

M.f.Gr. Lutz

And now to something completely different...
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Stefan Lipgens

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Jun 13, 1994, 5:23:43 AM6/13/94
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In <2ta7mc$p...@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca> he...@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Hugh Elm)
wrote:

>Just wondering

Honestly, your basic German Python fan is a member of a generation to which
WW2 is as close as to the common, say, canadian. That is to say most of what
we know about it is through history books or narrations of (great-)grandads.
What I find funny above all is the image of the "typical German".

Stefan aka who gets 'pangs' from history every once and then but never
because of MP aka actually it's Ron Vibbentop (I'm in Sommerset am being
born ...)

Holger Hellmuth

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Jun 13, 1994, 2:41:58 PM6/13/94
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he...@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca (Hugh Elm) writes:

>Just wondering

I can't speak for the older generation, but for everyone younger than 40
Hitler is some perverse lunatic out of the history book. It is in the same
league as how most people in the USA (hopefully) think about the Klu-Klux-Clan.
It is like a tumor someone had as a baby, so that he can experience the horror only
through photos and tales from his mother. Such a 'photo' was Spielbergs
'Schindlers list' for example.
Then there are the racists, the neonazis. We have got them as well as any other
country I know of. They are very active at the moment because the economic problems
of the former DDR and the confusion after the fall produced a xenophobic climate.
The same happens in France, Italy, USA..., wherever high unemployment meets with
a minority. But in Germany the danger might be slightly higher because the nazis
have a 'father figure'. And it gets more into the press because of our history.
On the other hand we have a stable democracy. And I wandered off the subject.
So back to...

'The Germans' is along with 'Basil the Rat' my favourite episode, but no-one from
Germany would run out of the room crying because Hitler was mentioned.

The same with Mr. Hilter and Mr. Bimmler. You brought a big smile on my face
by reminding me of that episode. I'll have to watch it again as soon as possible.

Holger.
--

Holger Hellmuth at Uni Karlsruhe
<hell...@ira.uka.de>

Dave Garner

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Jun 14, 1994, 5:07:43 AM6/14/94
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ac...@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Lipgens) writes:

>Honestly, your basic German Python fan is a member of a generation to which
>WW2 is as close as to the common, say, canadian. That is to say most of what
>we know about it is through history books or narrations of (great-)grandads.
>What I find funny above all is the image of the "typical German".

"Germans are an appallingly insentsitive people, it is very difficult
to insult them. Try setting fire to them or calling their Mercedes a
Volkswagon."

I em not thinking this iss funny.

I in jolly old Peterborough Lincolnshire am being given birth to, and
I am staying in Peterborough all during war due to jolly old running
sores, and voss unable to go to Nurenburg.....

>Stefan aka who gets 'pangs' from history every once and then but never
>because of MP aka actually it's Ron Vibbentop (I'm in Sommerset am being
>born ...)
>

Well, you started this....

Politenessman,
Leader of the Opposition.
Lean and hungry and suffering recreational drug withdawl...

Captain Button

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Jun 15, 1994, 6:19:37 AM6/15/94
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It's that nice Mr. MacGoering on the phone.

He says He's found a place where you can hire bombers by the hour.

--
- Captain Button but...@io.com

Stefan Lipgens

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Jun 16, 1994, 6:21:39 AM6/16/94
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In <1994Jun14.0...@scorch.hna.com.au> dav...@scorch.hna.com.au (Dave
Garner) wrote:

>"Germans are an appallingly insentsitive people, it is very difficult
> to insult them.

Right you are, squire!

> Try setting fire to them or calling their Mercedes a Volkswagon."
>I em not thinking this iss funny.

Well, basically this might be due to the fact that it isn't. I've been set on
fire more times than you've had hot dinners and I never EVER found it funny!
And that's in spite of nobody enjoying a good joke more than I do.

>Well, you started this....

No, I didn't.

>Politenessman,
>Leader of the Opposition.

Stefan aka as opposed to what?

Dave Garner

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Jun 18, 1994, 3:33:18 AM6/18/94
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ac...@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Lipgens) writes:

>>"Germans are an appallingly insentsitive people, it is very difficult
>> to insult them.

>Right you are, squire!

>> Try setting fire to them or calling their Mercedes a Volkswagon."
>>I em not thinking this iss funny.

>Well, basically this might be due to the fact that it isn't. I've been set on
>fire more times than you've had hot dinners and I never EVER found it funny!
>And that's in spite of nobody enjoying a good joke more than I do.

What I really like is the fact that after 2 world wars, the english
still like the Germans a lot more than the French. Does anyone like
the French?

Little known factoid:
When the fall of France was evident in WWII, the Brit. airforce

Oops, shopuldn'y talk about zer Var...
bombed the French naval bases and sunk all their ships (to stop
them falling into German hands, so they SAID) instead of giving
air support to the last ditch French battle campaigns.

This has alawys cheered me a up little when I feel down or am
encountering French people (same difference).

>>Well, you started this....

Polietnessman, Leader of the Opposition.

Dave Garner

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Jun 18, 1994, 4:15:07 AM6/18/94
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ac...@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Lipgens) writes:

>>"Germans are an appallingly insentsitive people, it is very difficult
>> to insult them.

>Right you are, squire!

>> Try setting fire to them or calling their Mercedes a Volkswagon."
>>I em not thinking this iss funny.

>Well, basically this might be due to the fact that it isn't. I've been set on
>fire more times than you've had hot dinners and I never EVER found it funny!
>And that's in spite of nobody enjoying a good joke more than I do.

What I really like is the fact that after 2 world wars, the english
still like the Germans a lot more than the French. Does anyone like
the French?

Little known factoid:
When the fall of France was evident in WWII, the Brit. airforce

bombed the French naval bases and sunk all their ships (to stop
them falling into German hands, so they SAID) instead of giving
air support to the last ditch French battle campaigns.

This has alawys cheered me a up little when I feel down or am
encountering French people (same difference).

>Well, you started this....

Yes you did, you invaded Poland!

(Just wanted to get that one in)

Stefan Lipgens

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Jun 20, 1994, 7:16:44 AM6/20/94
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In <1994Jun18.0...@scorch.hna.com.au> dav...@scorch.hna.com.au (Dave
Garner) writes:

>What I really like is the fact that after 2 world wars, the english
>still like the Germans a lot more than the French. Does anyone like
>the French?

Does it really surprise you to learn that I do? I mean, just think of
all the things they've done for human relationship. French kisses and alike.
And now I ask you: What have the Australians ever done for us? Public
exposure of whithering sarcasm? HAH!

[Details about WW2, which give me pangs and wossname deleted]

>Yes you did, you invaded Poland!
>(Just wanted to get that one in)

Stefan aka that ending was a bit predictable.

Lindsay Ewing

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Jun 20, 1994, 8:49:01 AM6/20/94
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ac...@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Lipgens) writes:
> In <1994Jun18.0...@scorch.hna.com.au> dav...@scorch.hna.com.au (Dave
> Garner) writes:
>
> >What I really like is the fact that after 2 world wars, the english
> >still like the Germans a lot more than the French. Does anyone like
> >the French?
>
> Does it really surprise you to learn that I do? I mean, just think of
> all the things they've done for human relationship. French kisses and alike.
> And now I ask you: What have the Australians ever done for us? Public
> exposure of whithering sarcasm? HAH!

Well, speaking as a Scotsman (that is strange because I am now entirley made out of tin) there is one very good reason why we hate the French - Flodden!

We helped them out when they were fighting the English from the South, we
sent in many sudjies to fight them in the North - for nothing - just cos
we like fighting the English. However, when we asked them for assistance
for the batlle at Flodden, they said ok but here are the prices! the bastards
were charging a crofters annual wage for a foot soldier! Needless to say
we got gubbed and the Flodden Fields are remembered as being awash with
blood of the Highlanders! So it has nothing to do with the 2nd WW, it is
to do with Flodden!

>
> [Details about WW2, which give me pangs and wossname deleted]
>
> >Yes you did, you invaded Poland!
> >(Just wanted to get that one in)
>
> Stefan aka that ending was a bit predictable.

Yes I must agree with you there.

eric the half-a-bee

'a bee is a bee etenally
even if the bee is half a bee'


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