Bruce's ph'song (YES, here it is) -- NO MONTY PYTHON MAT
Gordon Mulcaster
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> DO NOT POST MONTY PYTHON MATERIAL HERE.
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> yes, I'm going to bloody well repeat this until *everyone* that reads
> this newsgroup gets it.
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> Just another news admin,
If we aren't supposed to post Monty Python material in alt.fan.monty-python,
which group SHOULD we post it in?
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Jonathan Levine
Ah, you see, the group is SPELLED "alt.fan.monty-python," but it's pronounced
"alt.fan.throatwarbler-mangrove." Please do not post direct quotes from
Mr. Luxury-Yacht, as this may be construed as copyright infringement; only
post messages like:
"I really, really admire Mr. Luxury-yacht." <--- Good
"Yes, I particularly liked when he said, 'Kn*ck*rs.'"<--- Bad
"I really hate Mr. Luxury-yacht." <--- Invitation to flame
"Semprini." <--- The next person to post this will have his news feed turned off.
>If we aren't supposed to post Monty Python material in alt.fan.monty-python,
>which group SHOULD we post it in?
Please post Monty Python material to news.groups. (Well, it's spelled
"news.groups," but it's pronounced "alt.fan.monty-python.") Quite sorry for
the confusion.
Semprini,
Jon
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Can anybody out there real off the 'King Arthur - King of the Brittians', the
one from 'The Holy Grail', you know the one :
"Help, Help, I'm being repressed !!!"
..."..you can't appoint a democratic government by some watery tart
handing out swords left-right and centre..."
Thankyou anybody?
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Robert allen Jung
net.rattle?)
Arthur: "Old woman!"
Dennis: "Man."
A: "Sorry. Old man! Whose castle is that?"
D: "I'm 37!"
A: "What?"
D: "I'm 37, I'm not old!"
A: "Well, I can't just call you 'man'."
D: "Well, you could say 'Dennis'."
A: "I didn't know you were called Dennis."
D: "You never bothered to find out, did you?"
A: "I did say sorry about the old woman, but from behind you looked--"
D: "Well, I object. You're automatically treatin' me like an inferior!"
A: "Well, I _am_ King."
D: "Oh, King, eh, very nice. And how'd you get that, then? By exploitin' the
workers, by hangin' on to our dated imperialist domga, which
perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society. If
there's going to be any progress--"
Wife: "Dennis, there's some lovely filth down here-- Oh, how'd you do."
A: "Hello, good woman. I am Arthur, King of the Britons. Whose castle is that?"
W: "King of the who?"
A: "The Britons."
W: "Who are the Britons?"
A: "We are, we all are, and I am your King."
W: "I didn't know we had a King. I thought we were an autonomous collective."
D: "You're fooling yourself. We're livin' in a dictatorship, a
self-perpetuating autocracy, in which the working class--"
W: "Oh, there you go, bringing class into it again--"
D: "But that's what it's all about! If only people would listen--"
A: "Please, please, good people! I am in haste. Whose castle is that?"
W: "No one lives there."
A: "Then who is your lord?"
W: "We don't have a lord."
A: "What?"
D: "I told you. We're an narco-syndicous commune. We take it in turn, to act
as sort of an officer for the week--"
A: Yes I see."
D: "--but all the decisions of that officer hae to be ratified at a special
bi-weekly meeting--"
A: "Yes, I see."
D: "--by a simple majority, in the case of purely internal affairs--"
A: "Be quiet."
D: "--or by a two-thirds majority, in the case of--"
A: "Be quiet, I order you, be quiet!"
W: "Order, eh? Who's he think he is?"
A: "Why, I am your King!"
W: "I didn't vote for you."
A: "You don't vote for Kings."
W: "Well, how'd you become King, then?"
A: (dramatic music swells) "The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest
shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water,
signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur.
THAT is why I'm your king!"
D: "Listen, strange women, lyin' in ponds, distributin' swords is no basis
for a system of government. SUPREME executive power derives from a
mandate of the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony."
A: "Shut up!"
D: "You can't expect to weild supreme executive power, just 'cause some
watery tart threw a sword at you!"
A: "Shut up!"
D: "Why, if I went around, sayin' I was an emperor, just 'cause some moistened
dink had lubbed a symitar at me, they'd put me away!"
A: "Shut up! Will you shut up!" (punch)
D: "Oh, now we see the violence inherent in the system!"
A: "Shut up!" (punch)
D: "Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm bein'
repressed!"
A: "Bloody peasant!"
D: "Oh, what a giveaway! Did you see that? Did you see him repressin' me?
You saw it, didn't you?..."
(Quoted 100% from memory from the FINAL RIP-OFF album. Any mistakes and
misspellings are mine, and anybody who thinks I'm doing this for personal
gain has GOT to be kidding)
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> (Screw the copyrights! I rattle this bit off to friends anyway, so what's a
> net.rattle?)
>
> Arthur: "Old woman!"
> Dennis: "Man
> D: "I'm 37!"
> ...... etc etc etc
> D: "I told you. We're an narco-syndicous commune. We take it in turn, to act
> as sort of an officer for the week--"
........ etc etc etc...
>
(Quoted 100% from memory from the FINAL RIP-OFF album. Any mistakes and
> misspellings are mine, and anybody who thinks I'm doing this for personal
> gain has GOT to be kidding)
>
> --R.J.
> B-)
>
First of all, it should read "anarcho-syndicalist commune", and the Lady
of the Lake is referred to as a moistened "bint", not "dink".
Yours,
Wylie "Dog Kennels" Bradford
(apart from that I'm perfectly alright)
Bruce Munro
Thanks for posting this Robert, it's one of those sketches I keep trying
to remember, but always mix bits up here and there. Anyway, I picked up
a couple of minor mistakes in this sketch which are:
>D: "I told you. We're an narco-syndicous commune. We take it in turn, to act
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
anarcho-syndicalist
>D: "Why, if I went around, sayin' I was an emperor, just 'cause some moistened
> dink had lubbed a symitar at me, they'd put me away!"
^^^^
bint
>(Quoted 100% from memory from the FINAL RIP-OFF album. Any mistakes and
>misspellings are mine, and anybody who thinks I'm doing this for personal
>gain has GOT to be kidding)
Pretty good going I must admit! Keep it up!
Cheers,
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Ben Scott
>> dink had lubbed a symitar at me, they'd put me away!"
> ^^^^
>bint
Is this what Basil Fawlty was always calling Polly? As in "stupid, cloth-
eared bint"? If so, what does the word refer to? I've not heard it before.
Often I can look up unfamiliar words like "git" but this one doesn't seem to
be in my Webster's Vest Pocket edition...
"Yes, dear... yes... yes... is there anything else you would like, Sybil?
Anything? Would you like the hotel moved a little bit to the left, or...?"
Also, I was watching the "Lemming of the B.D.A." sketch (in "Owl Stretching
Time") last night and noticed a remarkable baker charlie similarity between
the bookshop owner Cleese played and Basil Fawlty... Anyone else ever noticed
this?
. <<<<Infinite K>>>>
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Rolf Lindgren
Is this what Basil Fawlty was always calling Polly? As in "stupid, cloth-
eared bint"? If so, what does the word refer to? I've not heard it before.
Often I can look up unfamiliar words like "git" but this one doesn't seem to
be in my Webster's Vest Pocket edition...
In the book, Monty Pyton ik den Holie Grailen (or whatever ... it's the Holy
Grail book), that entire sketch is listed and the word is 'bint'. I haven't got
my Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary of Current English here, so I can't
look up what it means - I'll do so If I don't find a transalation posted
whithin the next few days.
The book, 'Monty Python and the Holy Grail' is heavliy copyrighted, at least
the UK version I've got, but it's fairly cheap and I think it's legal to buy
it in a bookstore.
The Webster? I've got a four-kilo 2000-pages thingy at my dorm called a
'Webster', and it doesn't even list the word 'fuck'!
Now, as the 'Constitutional Peasants' sketch is printed in one of the books,
and indeed very copyrigthed it is - is it legal to post sketches that don't
appear in any of the books? If it's legal to post 'brief passages og literary
works', how do you calculate brevity? Can we post sketches that take less than
5% of a TV show, or of a record, of a book, or of a movie?
Point is that us foreigners would very much like to be able to read the
sketches because we don't catch all the words - and as only a few of the
sketches are actually available in copyrighted form, it's quite tempting to dig
out the rest in not-so-copyrighted forms.
Now could somebody please post an exhaustive summary of all the books?
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>>bint
>
>Is this what Basil Fawlty was always calling Polly? As in "stupid, cloth-
>eared bint"? If so, what does the word refer to? I've not heard it before.
>Often I can look up unfamiliar words like "git" but this one doesn't seem to
>be in my Webster's Vest Pocket edition...
It should be in the big one, though.
"bint" is an Arabic word for "girl", though not a terribly polite one. Similar
in meaning to "bunt", as in "silly bunt" :-) (referring to another MP sketch).
For those of you who care, I think it came into the English language during
the North African campaigns of WW II - at least, I learned about it from Spike
Milligan's "Hitler - My Part in his Downfall" (or whatever it's called), his
memoirs about fighting in the war (a very funny book; you should read it).
Spike Milligan was one of the three Goons. Or maybe I saw the word there and
got the meaning from my father (who's English). The phrase "shufti bint"
_roughly_ means "check out the babe", or sometimes just "take a shufti". In
England "bint" is a very widely-known word.
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Dale Wyttenbach
>Is this what Basil Fawlty was always calling Polly? As in "stupid, cloth-
>eared bint"? If so, what does the word refer to?
dale@umn-cs% webster bint
bint \'bint\ n (1855)
[Ar, girl, daughter] Brit
:GIRL, WOMAN
dale@umn-cs%
I'm surprised that, according to Webster, 'bint' is not derogatory.
From the context, it appeared to me that it was.
dale
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Ben Scott
>bsc...@nyx.UUCP (Ben Scott) writes:
>>Is this what Basil Fawlty was always calling Polly? As in "stupid, cloth-
>>eared bint"? If so, what does the word refer to?
>
>dale@umn-cs% webster bint
>bint \'bint\ n (1855)
> [Ar, girl, daughter] Brit
> :GIRL, WOMAN
>dale@umn-cs%
>
>I'm surprised that, according to Webster, 'bint' is not derogatory.
>From the context, it appeared to me that it was.
With Cleese, "Drive carefully, dear" can be derogatory. He doesn't even have
to be uttering a sound or even facing the camera to be derogatory. Thanks
for the info, and what kind of system do you have that has the "webster"
command? Since school is out for the summer I'm forced to this Public
Access Unix site, which, while admirable for the price, has a few hardware
shortcomings... (but I'm about to begin testing my own UUCP node on my Amiga
so mebbe I won't have troubles after this)
Well, what's next...hmmm... we've figured out who the "Samaritans" are, learned
the meaning of "bint", and I looked up "Hadrian" (from the first episode, the
conversation with Mr. O'Reilley about the wall) myself... we can't have nailed
down all the Britishisms that were in the show that we backward Americans
missed, can we? I can't think of any more... I even know enough Spanish (even
even more than Basil) to catch all the Spanish jokes with Manuel. Am I done?
Do I win a large Garden Gnome?
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purposes only*.
Does this mean...?
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Dale Wyttenbach
>what kind of system do you have that has the "webster"
>command?
The webster program is free, but you need a licensed copy of the
dictionary on a machine that can run the webster server. A NeXT does
nicely for this purpose.
>Do I win a large Garden Gnome?
Oooooooyes, but if you expose his naughty bits by removing the
little polka-dot boxer shorts, you can expect a visit from the
Spanish Inquisition!
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Paul Rhodes
>From the context, it appeared to me that it was.
with a not altogether dissimilar word starting 'cu', ie that it's
a euphemism. (as is berk, rhyming slang for the same word)
Isn't quoting a Webster's definition a breach of copyright? :-)
>dale
Paul Rhodes.
(PS it's Berkshire Hunt, in case you were wondering.)
Peter Sheriff
'Bint' is a British colloquialism meaning a woman. It is a derogatory
term so most women would object to being called a bint. I think that it
has connotations of whoreish behaviour in it.
Pete
Jeff Sullivan
I had always thought they were saying "bink" (if this is the same term
used in Holy Grail, where Palin as a peasant said "...moistened bink
lobbed a scimitar at me...". Hmm. I (being an american) had never
even heard of either term before.
And it means "a bit of tail"? (i.e., derogatory term for woman)?
Interesting.
jas
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Dave Horsfall
j...@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) writes:
| I had always thought they were saying "bink" (if this is the same term
| used in Holy Grail, where Palin as a peasant said "...moistened bink
| lobbed a scimitar at me...".
Nope - he said "moistened bint."
| And it means "a bit of tail"? (i.e., derogatory term for woman)?
Certainly is derogatory - comes between "biddy" and "bitch."
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